[amsat-bb] Re: AO40 replacement !!!

2012-09-06 Thread Trevor .
--- On Wed, 5/9/12, Diane Bruce d...@db.net wrote: Piece of wire driven by some electricity works well enough. No need for big pyro explosions. Yes and the TetherSat CubeSat should be testing out exactly that next year, see http://www.uk.amsat.org/9165 73 Trevor M5AKA

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2012-09-05 Thread Kevin Muenzler
the next generation of Space Shuttles come on line (yeah, right) we'll have that opportunity again. Kevin From: Greg Dolkas [mailto:ko6th.g...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2012 10:27 PM To: Kevin Muenzler Cc: amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: AO40 replacement

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2012-09-05 Thread Kevin Muenzler
That would explain an explosion. Those things don't just burn off. From: R Oler [mailto:orbit...@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2012 6:35 PM To: ke...@eaglecreekobservatory.org; Amsat BB Subject: RE: [amsat-bb] Re: AO40 replacement !!! Kevin. AO-40 was damaged

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2012-09-05 Thread John P. Toscano
On 9/5/2012 8:57 AM, Kevin Muenzler wrote: On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 3:40 PM, Kevin Muenzler ke...@eaglecreekobservatory.org wrote: In my opinion (it's worth every penny you just paid for it) if they are going to create a new super sophisticated Phase III Part Deux it should perhaps be taken to

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2012-09-05 Thread Trevor .
--- On Wed, 5/9/12, Kevin Muenzler ke...@eaglecreekobservatory.org wrote: It would be difficult to get some sort of rocket aboard the ISS now that the space shuttle missions are finished I doubt it was ever feasible, if I understand it correctly there are even issues with shipping rechargable

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2012-09-05 Thread Kevin Muenzler
:48 AM To: amsat-bb@amsat.org; Kevin Muenzler Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: AO40 replacement !!! --- On Wed, 5/9/12, Kevin Muenzler ke...@eaglecreekobservatory.org wrote: It would be difficult to get some sort of rocket aboard the ISS now that the space shuttle missions are finished I doubt

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2012-09-05 Thread John Spasojevich
How would it be assembled on ISS? You would have to build it on the ground, document every step, take it apart and rebuild it to be sure the assembly documentation is correct and then ship it up bit by bit. Meanwhile each crew trains quite awhile on their respective increments aboard before they

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2012-09-05 Thread Bob- W7LRD
, 2012 9:40:09 AM Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO40 replacement !!! How would it be assembled on ISS? You would have to build it on the ground, document every step, take it apart and rebuild it to be sure the assembly documentation is correct and then ship it up bit by bit. Meanwhile each crew

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2012-09-05 Thread Kevin Muenzler
] On Behalf Of Bob- W7LRD Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2012 12:37 PM To: John Spasojevich Cc: amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO40 replacement !!! I am resigned to the fact we will in all probability never see another AO-40 (sobsob) unless one of us wins the lottery. We would call

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2012-09-05 Thread Gordon JC Pearce
On 05/09/12 16:48, Trevor . wrote: Getting CubeSat's to MEO or HEO will depend on developing propulsion, fold-out solar panels, and even CubeSat directional antennas - I wonder could a 2m 2 ele Yagi be incorporated into a 3U CubeSat ? As a first-order approximation, my HB9CV is just about

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2012-09-05 Thread Gordon JC Pearce
On 05/09/12 19:38, John Becker wrote: At 12:37 PM 9/5/2012, you wrote: I am resigned to the fact we will in all probability never see another AO-40 (sobsob) And the reason your thinking that is? Cost, most likely. None of the developed nations have an experimental space programme where

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2012-09-05 Thread Diane Bruce
On Wed, Sep 05, 2012 at 07:35:22PM +0100, Gordon JC Pearce wrote: On 05/09/12 16:48, Trevor . wrote: Getting CubeSat's to MEO or HEO will depend on developing propulsion, fold-out solar panels, and even CubeSat directional antennas - I wonder could a 2m 2 ele Yagi be incorporated into a 3U

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2012-09-05 Thread Gordon JC Pearce
On 05/09/12 17:15, Kevin Muenzler wrote: What I meant was that it could be launched as so many have been launched -- from the shuttle cargo bay. But, no more shuttles...Mr. Obama gave them all away. :( Much as I love the Space Shuttles, they were long overdue for their final voyage to the

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2012-09-04 Thread Prof. Arnaldo Coro Antich
Just read a posting about a possible replacement for the ill fated super sophisticated over-engineered ultra complex AO40 satellite. My perception is that any attempt to create a New Generation Molnya Orbit Satellite must undergo a very serious and comprehensive engineering research , in order

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2012-09-04 Thread Kevin Muenzler
mind, it just takes a few minutes. -Original Message- From: amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org] On Behalf Of Prof. Arnaldo Coro Antich Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2012 5:21 PM To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO40 replacement !!! Just read

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2012-09-04 Thread John Becker
At 05:40 PM 9/4/2012, you wrote: In my opinion (it's worth every penny you just paid for it) if they are going to create a new super sophisticated Phase III Part Deux it should perhaps be taken to the ISS in pieces, assembled there and blown into a long-period orbit. But then that's just my

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2012-09-04 Thread Greg Dolkas
Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2012 5:21 PM To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO40 replacement !!! Just read a posting about a possible replacement for the ill fated super sophisticated over-engineered ultra complex AO40 satellite. My perception is that any attempt to create a New