Skip - Dan Give it at least one day of a chance. Jim Keady and Ed
Johnson may see eye to eye - and may exert some influence - and change
Asbury's direction. A watchdog group has been needed in this town for
some time now and could also help Keady and Johnson. Let's be open to
some
Garrettwould that be shop-rite? lol
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Date: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 0:04 am
Subject: [AsburyPark] ELECTION
Well, THANK GOD ITS OVER. THE RESULTS ARE IN! CONGRATULATIONS TO
ALL THE
WINNERS. OUR CITY IS SAFE FOR ANOTHER FOUR YEARS.
GOOD
I noticed that lol after
Garrett
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Skip - Dan Give it at least one day of a chance. Jim Keady and
Ed
Johnson may see eye to eye - and may exert some influence - and
change
Asbury's direction. A watchdog group has been needed in this town
for
some time now and
Congratulations on your win Jim! :) Now you just have to figure out
how to work with the other crazies! I'm sure you'll do a great job.
Since I live in Ocean Grove, I couldn't vote, but I was very
interested in the election all the same, living in a sister city to
AP. :)
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If you look at the numbers, the incumbents are ahead of the rest of the
field by more than 200 votes. That's quite a landslide victory.
Clearly this is a mandate from the poeple of Asbury Park telling this
council to keep the current redevelopment on track. Time to get those
3100 condos
I thought you were talking about tidy neighborhoods near beaches, without
nasty old buildings unless the nasty old buildings are painted puke yellow.
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BB82, it's a bit of a stretch calling a landslide when the top vote getter
pulls 900 votes out of 8,000 registered voters. If you think the earth
moved, I may be wrong about putting you in Lakewood; try California, you'll
love the fault.
Skip Bernstein
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Unless I missed a day back in statistics class, you don't compare
the votes recieved to the total registered voters. You take the
votes received against the votes cast, then compare to what the
oppenants received. Kevin Sanders nearly doubled his closest
competitor from off his ticket.
THIS
A specail thanks to everyone you ran for City Council that didn't win.We had
alot of people running.And also the people you volunter their time in working
the polls.
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you can also look at the numbers and ponder why the TURNOUT was so LOW.
Was it the location of the polling places, peoples indifference, fear
of voting, transportation issues, belief that the incumbents would win -
so why bother, etc etc.
It's done.
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I second that thanks. The candidates that took the time and money to help form a vision of what Asbury can be were as valuable in some cases as the candidates. Many of the points they made will still help to shape our future.-Original Message-From: Jim [EMAIL PROTECTED]To:
More telling than the mandate (and I'll admit it definitely was) is
how it was achieved.
There were 2,419 people who voted in 2001, but only 1,915 in 2005.
Let's assume no new voters no deaths in the past four years. 504
voters decided it wasn't worth it to show up to the polls this time.
JJ
Clearly there was a poor turnout and I have no explanation for that.
I assume many have been displaced and replaced with people with dual
residences, like me. Although I registered here and voted I am told
it was voided. I assume some of the dual resident replacements
didn;t register here.
Nice post - very interesting stats. I'm not willing to make the
leap that redevelopment caused there to be less voters available.
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More telling than the mandate (and I'll admit it definitely was)
is
how it was
I'm wondering if all the voters received their sample ballots. If
they didn't, that could be one of the reasons: they didn't know it was time to
vote.
I, for one, did not receive mine, tho i did
vote.
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Dan -
Last time I asked Reidy, which was after you'd expressed frustration at this process, he gave me no reason for me to suspect that the city had decided to drop you.So what do they tell you?
Maureen
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I don't think I can stand 4 more years of the
council standing by while Asbury Partners does what it wants. I
really wish concerned citizens could have a serious heart to heart
talk with the new council absent rethoric and
Who is resoniable for the Campaign Signs that are going to left all around
town.I seen alot around town today still up.
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1. for your numbers work
2. for in some way - looking at question of state aid - and wondering
if at some point in time - if aid will be reduced and taxes would
rise.
To be like the rest of the county.
Thanks
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At 12:02 AM + 5/12/05, jerseyjohn99 wrote:
...The winners campaign was based upon
the premise that Asbury's gotten back to a level footing with the
rest of the county state, ...
Nice try John. No candidate -- winner or not -- that I heard in any pubic forum
said anything like that at all.
Let's see, according to the most recent statistics 67.1% of
HOUSEHOLDS in AP had income under $35,000 80.5% of the total
population rented their living unit.
Using the 28/36 ratio, a person who makes $35,000 with no debt can
qualify for a mortgage up to $81,000. Realtor.com gives me 5 vacant
If by most recent statistics you mean the 2000 census, you are
using some awfully out of date stats.
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Let's see, according to the most recent statistics 67.1% of
HOUSEHOLDS in AP had income under $35,000 80.5% of the
At 12:28 PM -0400 5/10/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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In that same time period, your
candidate Stuart failed miserably running the Chamber of Commerce
until it ran out of funds to pay his salary.
Bishop..
The West Side prices are skewed just as well - if not more so given
lot size, condition and location.
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Official stats that are outdated are as useless as unofficial
stats. You were here in 2000 - those states are off, particularly
property values and income levels. You also can't use bad stats and
the excuse that its ok because you don't have access to the right
ones.
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At 12:42 PM + 5/11/05, wernerapnj wrote:
Is there any data available that would provide a demographic analysis
of those who cast votes yesterday? The usual stuff, such as, income,
race, family structure, gender, education, etc. ?
Actually this is a serious question that I'm sure a lot of
Can you use bad stats to justify Abbott district membership or
Extraordinary Aid from the state for the 4th year in a row?
What are the real stats and what would the city's demographics look
like using these real stats compared to the other 30 Abbott districts?
--- In
Good point, JJ. But do we have to use bad stats just because they
do?
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Can you use bad stats to justify Abbott district membership or
Extraordinary Aid from the state for the 4th year in a row?
What are the real
There is a newspaper guy in Asbury, that use to be in Long Branch.
He is also Gay. It was his coming out that caused him to depart from
Long Branch, not totally however because he has a patronage benefits
position at the sewer authority in his old home town, as a payback
for all the political
You have to use what's available or else do your own census or study.
The other choice is to do neither and have absolutely no idea what's
going on. Come on you want to try and adjust the stats and come up
with a range - then go ahead. The exercise is still valid and
important.
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