Historic district measure assailed
Battle brewing in Shrewsbury
Posted by the Asbury Park Press on 01/18/07
BY KEITH BROWN \
COASTAL MONMOUTH BUREAU
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SHREWSBURY Close to 50 residents
state Assemblyman Michael
Panter among them
attended the Planning Board's first meeting of
Well it's out there now so I can spill it:
Sold to Asbury Partners:
Baronet
Fastlane
Wonder Bar
FH Paint Building
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright
justifiedright@ wrote:
Not talking about my column.
That is huge.
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From: justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 1:21:15 PM
Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Huge News in TCN tomorrow!!
Well it's out there now so I can spill it:
Sold to Asbury Partners:
Baronet
dfsvgny-
wow, settle down there buddy. i said i thought the bar was owned by seperate
people, BUT ASSUMING YOU WERE RIGHT... etc. read right! i also said i
know the building is owned by asbury partners. whyd you add that in your
statement? to make the list longer?
whats the story about?
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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That is huge.
A huge let down that people were sold on a crusade to Save the Baronet.
I thought it was courageous of Pat et al to embark on it in the first
place. But people, including myself, got hyped for
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, charlie leonard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
wow, settle down there buddy. i said i thought the bar was owned
by seperate people, BUT ASSUMING YOU WERE RIGHT... etc. read
right! i also said i know the building is owned by asbury
partners. whyd you
If that is the truth, then this is sad. There are other places in
Asbury Park with security Staffs - i.e. more than a bouncer. Hopefully
this is a learning experience. This however might have happened
anywhere and although tragic and unfortunate should not be a black mark
against Asbury Park.
Baronet, Fastlane, Wonder Bar, FH Paint Building. interesting! so now all
those establishments are in the hands of asbury partners. i kind of figured at
some point this would happen, its not to surprising. im surprised about the
baronet though. howd that happen? theres no mention of the
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson nnjallans1@
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Are you thsat naive, Pat pulled off the same thing as Over my dead
body Santanna did. It was a scam from the beginning. They used the
Save Baronet
So what would you speculate that this means for the future of The Baronet etc?
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson nnjallans1@
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That is huge.
A huge let down that people were sold on a crusade
I have come to agree with much of your perspective on Asbury Partners,
also based on the performance I've witnessed. That said, you are
often quick to blame them for virtually anything. I have a mental
image of you working tirelessly to find a way of placing the blame on
Asbury Partners for
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Kaboom, I'll sell the popcorn for this one.
So what would you speculate that this means for the future of The
Baronet etc?
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Re: The element of timing
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, traderdube [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Fred wrote...
The new owners of the Fast lanes, Baronet and Bowling Ally. Their
just
driving of the value, every
Okay. So I knew that 2 weeks ago.
all right, so what. why would you even bother saying that. i dont get some
of the people on here.
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that true, larry fishman did write a letter about saving it. maybe he still
wants to, now that he owns it. who knows. he may very well move it, if he
think it will give the company asbury partners a better name then its been
getting the last few months. moving it somewhere, a place that
fred-
how do you figure Santanna did the same thing with the stone pony? i never
thought of that, or at least though of it from that angle before. he bought it
at a time it first became aviable. he worked hard to bring it back to what it
was. if he was just looking for a quick
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I have come to agree with much of your perspective on Asbury
Partners,
also based on the performance I've witnessed. That said, you are
often quick to blame them for virtually anything. I have a mental
image of
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, charlie leonard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Okay. So I knew that 2 weeks ago.
all right, so what. why would you even bother saying that. i dont
get some of the people on here.
Because it was portrayed as a block buster by TCN. It has been all
around
Be glad that you don't
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From: charlie leonard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 3:07:35 PM
Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Huge News in TCN tomorrow!!
Okay. So I knew that 2 weeks ago.
all right, so what. why would
On Jan 18, 2007, at 2:44 PM, Hinge wrote:
So what would you speculate that this means for the future of The
Baronet etc?
More importantly, what does this mean for the future of entertainment
in Asbury Park? To everyone who has faith in Asbury Park remember
that Convention Hall and Paramount
Now you are just raining on my parade Dan.
Everyone new they were negotiating. That is not the same as the
parties annoucing that they reached an agreement and it is a done
deal.
Go back to the column I wrote about tbe Baronet. Remember the one
where I predicted exactly this would happen,
Yeah, Tommy,
I read your 72 Days, column. Were you there? Did you say Hello?
Inquiring minds, want to know!
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Tommy, Pallone showed up.
In 20 years, I've never been to a Martin Luther King event quite
like tonight, said
Just as many gang members aren't Asbury Park residents, neither was
this man. Why are the Partners allowed to own a club, liquor license,
etc., and NOT have enough security, or enough to quell this sort of
thing? I noted that Mr. Morrison, was a Navy Veteran, 25, very young,
but, considered an
So what has Sean Kean, done, or Palaia for that matter? I haven't
seen one shred of evidence, since Kean took over from Assemblyman
Smith! He even moved his office to Wall Township! Hah! They've done
nothing, while Assemblymen Smith had MILLIONS, brought into Asbury
Park for EVERYONE! You got
BOE members better be ready come April, tey can lose control in one
election. Remember Asbury United and what they did to this city.
What DID they do? What laws DID they break? Be specific!
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright
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Now you are just raining on my parade Dan.
You have my sincerest apologies. The furthest thing from my intent. I
guess it came off bad.
I'll start over.
Wow!
How was that? ;)
Go back to the column I wrote about
No, they didn't! The test scores went up! Just as the Blacks on the
board did as the previous board did, when it came to expenses, the
Homeowner's Assn., scrutinized everything they attempted to do. When
the stadium was refurbished, charges were brought against the board
atty and the board
I didn't post it. I was replying to the poster! Hey read your back
emails before you accuse me!
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A different picture is a radical understatement!!! The article
made him out to be a saint - and as someone who served us
See Dan now you have me rolling on the floor laughing again! That's
the Dan the Man I like!
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright
justifiedright@ wrote:
Now you are just raining on my parade Dan.
Sharon you are really going to be interested in my column this week
about UFO Pallone and the West Side Community Center.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, 2fine4u [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yeah, Tommy,
I read your 72 Days, column. Were you there? Did you say Hello?
Inquiring minds, want
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Soloman
Saunders
Condos
Enought said
BOE members better be ready come April, tey can lose control in one
election. Remember Asbury United and what they did to this city.
What DID they do? What laws DID they
I fell out laughing at your last column, but I took it serious! I
thought also, that you hardly ever see him in AP! Well, I haven't
seen him, either and I voted for him! I see him more, on C-Span, I
get replies to every issue, I write to him, about. I can show you! I
have letters dating back
I apologized!!! I even accidently hit the button twice!!!
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, 2fine4u [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I didn't post it. I was replying to the poster! Hey read your back
emails before you accuse me!
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I apologized!!! I even accidently hit the button twice!!!
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, 2fine4u [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I didn't post it. I was replying to the poster! Hey read your back
emails before you accuse me!
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There was no one more surprised than I was on Saturday when I found out The Wonder Bar was sold. I knew my partners had been served with "The Letter" but I had no idea the club had actually been sold. I am still upset but will continue to operate the clubthe way we always have until the day
If there is no Wonder Bar run by Debbie and Lance in Asbury Park, the
city's future will not be as bright as it could be. Should the WB
close, it will be a sad day indeed. A really great effort.
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Ok then I have a proposal - something we can all get behind, no matter
what our divergent political backgrounds are.
Let's start a petition, and have as many people appear at council
meetings as possible, and respectfully request of Asbury Partners that
Lance Debbie be allowed to stay as
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright
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Tommy I'm sure that's exactly what's going to happen. Stay open until
the end then hopefully get moved down by the Casino with the Pony
which I hear will be in the Casino. I know it's hard but keep the
faith. I know
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BREAKING NEWS: Fifth suspect sought in Asbury Park gang slaying
Posted by the Asbury Park Press on 01/18/07
BY KAREN SUDOL
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ASBURY PARK Prosecutors have charged a fifth person, who is
currently a fugitive, in a December
dfsavgny,
im not taking either side, i know what from i see. it is a true fact that
asbury partners dont live up to time lines and alwasy seem to find a sneaky way
of doing things. however, when it comes to the activity on the boardwalk,
retail etc, things are moving along just as they
Domonic rode down Ocean Ave on a white pony and said Over my dead
body will I sell the Pony. My comparison was on how he used the fans
of the Pony.
he used the fans? wheather he used them or not, both got what they wanted.
santana had a good buisness deal, who also wanted the best for
Stone Pony and Deep are not - currently they book acts that are
too young for folks like me, and are run by folks that I feel, frankly,
don't know the old scene because they don't remember
so let me get this right, just because something is too young for you, that
makes it not part of
also, dont copare club deep and the stone pony in the same sentence!!! haha.
im not too big of a fan of club deep, that place sucks in my oppinon. when it
first opened it was different, but now it seems to be booking only hardcore
metal or punk shows. for those that like that, its great.
Tommy,
AsburyMusic.com and Upstage are already ahead of ya! Hope we can count
on your support.
We've got an online petition up at:
http://www.asburymusic.com/petition
The Wonder Bar has been a huge supporter of Upstage Magazine from our
first issue. The Wonder Bar and Upstage Magazine got
the whole moving the stone pony into the casino idea hit the news a few years
ago, im not sure that idea will ever pan out though. on one side, i think it
might be a pretty neat idea. i can picture it. and if not the stone pony,
something else like it over there would be pretty good. but,
Chuck I'm not asking the Pony to close. I'm asking the Wonder Bar
not to close.
Your observation is correct - I feel more at home in the Wonder
Bar. Let's just go ahead and say it - I'm getting old.
Geez, I act like a Nostalgia Nazi for 10 minutes and I get called on
it.
I admit it - I'm
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do you think larry fishman, or anyone
asscoiated with him is booking these events, and what not? i doubt
it.)
In the AP Press article, speaking as the manager of The Deep eas
Carolyn O'Toole. She is Fishman's
I should weigh in and I will.
Any speculation that there was a master plan beyond acquiring the
development rights to the 200 and 100 blocks of 4th ave is wrong.
From the start, the whole idea behind buying the Fast Lane and Baronet,
along with 3 other properties still in private hands, was for
I wish you best of luck with the Baronet and Fastlane. Some of the
best years of my life were spent at the Fastlane.
One thing I don't understand about Asbury Park is why so few of the
venues both to use the free event listing at AsburyMusic.com and
UpstageMagazine.com
I'd say conservatively,
Great post Dennis.
I must pat myself on the back. Go back and read my column about the
Baronet, then consider this sentence from you:
From the start, the whole idea behind buying the Fast Lane and
Baronet, along with 3 other properties still in private hands, was
for the sole purpose of
When a place was needed to hold a event for SSG Maurice Craft a Solider that
lost his leg in Iraq that was rasied in Asbury Park.Debbie Lance open there
Doors.Alot of Musicains other came together that night March 11,2005 help
that solider his family more than you could ever imgaine.Debbie
When a place was needed to hold a event for SSG Maurice Craft a Solider that
lost his leg in Iraq that was rasied in Asbury Park.Debbie Lance open there
Doors.Alot of Musicains other came together that night March 11,2005 help
that solider his family more than you could ever imgaine.Debbie
if the wonder bar is demolished, whos to say condos will replace it? doesnt
the plan cal for Retail, etc along the first floor of all of ocean ave? i
thought that was part of the plan.
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Chuck I'm not asking the Pony to close. I'm asking the Wonder Bar
not to close.Your observation is correct - I feel more at home in the Wonder
Bar. Let's just go ahead and say it - I'm getting old.Geez, I act like a
Nostalgia Nazi for 10 minutes and I get called on it.I admit it - I'm being
In the AP Press article, speaking as the manager of The Deep eas
Carolyn O'Toole. She is Fishman's mamger of the Stone Pony, too.
right, they may have the same mangers. but larry fishamn, asbur parnters
arnt the ones running the place technicaly. they have a manager, like most
places
Well Chuck, I guess this settles the question of Asbury
Partners/Fishman being involved with running The Deep:
Asbury Park's Deep club to close until spring
Posted by the Asbury Park Press on 01/18/07
BY MICHELLE SAHN
AND STEPHEN BOVE
STAFF WRITERS
ASBURY PARK -- In the wake of a possible
justifiedright,
yeah, that says it there. i guess they do owns it. i wanst sure. i thought
when it first opened it was owned by asbury partners, but operated by someone
else. i guess i was wrong. good article though. depending on what happens
with the case, i think its possiable
Chuck you are right - the business originally was owned and operated
by others when it first opened. 2 guys. They lasted a few months,
and left swearing they were forced out of business because the
landlord didn't keep certain promises.
Not saying they were telling the truth - just reporting
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