[AsburyPark] Re: Low Lights

2008-11-30 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Leaving CH Friday night. At Ocean and 4th I almost ran over 3 people crossing. Had to slam on my brakes. I could not see them until they were in my headlights. Why? Too damned dark. No sight of them when they

[AsburyPark] Re: Happy Turkey Day..

2008-11-30 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dapawprint [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... You will discover that these people are optimistic for the first time in decades. You appear to have an issue with improvements not happening on- time... SHIT... the people of Asbury Park see it so differently -

[AsburyPark] redevelopement... college paper

2008-11-30 Thread jandlinap
Hi.. One of my friends is writing a paper at NYU about the redev. of asbur park...if anyone can email him and help with some information..would be appreciated.. his email is [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks Jeffrey Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit

[AsburyPark] Re: redevelopement... college paper

2008-11-30 Thread justifiedright
There are many college students who have written on that same topic over the years. I'd love to see them all together some day. Would be fun to compare and contrast their thoughts. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, jandlinap [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi.. One of my friends is writing a

[AsburyPark] Re: redevelopement... college paper

2008-11-30 Thread oakdorf
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are many college students who have written on that same topic over the years. I'd love to see them all together some day. Would be fun to compare and contrast their thoughts. Let's sponsor a symposium.

[AsburyPark] Ten Things About Last Night in AP

2008-11-30 Thread oakdorf
1. It was tough to fine parking at 8:30 2. See# 1. A reason to have the meters in force - at least at NIGHT. 3. Bagpipes practicing in CH Aracde were deafening. Finally parked to check out what the 100 gifts were aroiund 9pm. Roller Derby going on. The really nice tree that was killed looled real

[AsburyPark] Re: Low Lights

2008-11-30 Thread justifiedright
Sure - that's why the keep the lights so low at Giants Stadium - so you can see the players better. Good grief. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: Leaving CH Friday night. At

[AsburyPark] RIP old friend

2008-11-30 Thread justifiedright
A friend who passed Thanksgiving Day was the most Asbury guy you would have ever met. Picture everything Bruce Springsteen ever wrote about driving the circuit or partying down the Beach and Boardwalk, and he was it. Literally one of the kids huddled on the beach in the mist. So long, old

[AsburyPark] Re: Low Lights

2008-11-30 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sure - that's why the keep the lights so low at Giants Stadium - so you can see the players better. Good grief. === Mr. Right will just NEVER get it

[AsburyPark] lights..

2008-11-30 Thread oakdorf
the one thing that obsructs the Ocean view from the Watermark - the street lights on the boardwalk Drive down main st in Avon. While the idea was neat - the lights are ugly and overpowering- the globes blind you. Drive down ocean ave through allenhurst. simple period lights. Rt 33/corlies

[AsburyPark] Re: Low Lights

2008-11-30 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sure - that's why the keep the lights so low at Giants Stadium - so you can see the players better. Good grief. = I'll just add that if a

[AsburyPark] Re: Low Lights

2008-11-30 Thread justifiedright
What bait? Am I not allowed to offer my thoughts on the lighting topic? If a person disagrees with the majority it's bait. Perhaps you would more enjoy a discussion where every one agrees. Besides, your entire post below is personalizing - it focuses on me and not the issue. Make

[AsburyPark] Re: lights..

2008-11-30 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the one thing that obsructs the Ocean view from the Watermark - the street lights on the boardwalk Drive down main st in Avon. While the idea was neat - the lights are ugly and overpowering- the globes blind you.

[AsburyPark] Re: Low Lights

2008-11-30 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Besides, your entire post below is personalizing - it focuses on me and not the issue. OK everything is 'personalizing' - I'll give you

[AsburyPark] Re: Happy Turkey Day..

2008-11-30 Thread Jennifer
Does anyone else find it curious that newbeetoap seems to be so concerned about a place s/he claims to dislike so much? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings:

[AsburyPark] Re: Happy Turkey Day..

2008-11-30 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jennifer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone else find it curious that newbeetoap seems to be so concerned about a place s/he claims to dislike so much? === I didn't see that in the posts - I

[AsburyPark] Re: Happy Turkey Day..

2008-11-30 Thread nobepeymay
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jennifer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone else find it curious that newbeetoap seems to be so concerned about a place s/he claims to dislike so much? Yes I doI think he / she really lives in AP and is trying to come off as an outsider looking in.

[AsburyPark] Re: Happy Turkey Day..

2008-11-30 Thread wernerapnj
Hi John, have you been in lately? I heard that yesterday was packed. Hope the holiday was good. Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email |

[AsburyPark] Re: Happy Turkey Day..

2008-11-30 Thread Gabrielle Obre
Werner, you are utilizing selective attention. His disdain for the progress ap has made fits your needs. that is not to suggest you don't have valid issues, but you as well seem incapable of enjoying the place. All the guy does is make fun of the place, bitch about it etc. Maybe he mentioned a

[AsburyPark] Re: BeachCam Status

2008-11-30 Thread dapawprint
The BeachCam Status for November 2008 are in - and it's not pretty. See the graph here: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3140/3070428019_4a06ea1001_o.jpg http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3140/3070428019_4a06ea1001_o.jpg My intent is not really to be critical, if I can help to get that camera

[AsburyPark] Re: Low Lights

2008-11-30 Thread Jack Pitzer
This is a horrible attempt to be right I suspect you weren't paying attention to the road. I drive on Ocean Ave. every single day, and night, and I've never had a problem seeing people in the road. Ocean and 4th has tons of lighting. Perhaps the glare got in your eyes. --- In

[AsburyPark] Re: Happy Turkey Day..

2008-11-30 Thread Jennifer
Werner, Please note that I used the word curious not offensive. His posts state that he his someone who visited and had a good time yet he is deeply concerned about dates and deadlines. I am going to use he because it is the pronoun of unknown in the English language. I use curious in the

[AsburyPark] Re: Low Lights

2008-11-30 Thread Jack Pitzer
Good grief? The only good grief from this post is an analogy that has absolutely nothing to do with the topic. It's amazing how desperate you are to win, once again. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sure - that's why the keep the lights so low at

[AsburyPark] Re: Happy Turkey Day..

2008-11-30 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jennifer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Werner, Please note that I used the word curious not offensive. His posts state that he his someone who visited and had a good time yet he is deeply concerned about dates and deadlines. I am going to use he because it

[AsburyPark] Re: lights..

2008-11-30 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How can we make a difference, and get something done about this? I'd love to see the city address the lighting situation, but how can we actually make it happen.

[AsburyPark] Re: Happy Turkey Day..

2008-11-30 Thread Gabrielle Obre
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I find your comment regarding me - 'fits your needs' - rather bizarre. My only need is to get to the facts and make the public's interests a priority. The reality is what it is, to date this redevelopment has been a

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Happy Turkey Day..

2008-11-30 Thread MarioAPNJ
newbee is listed among our members as 43, male, Asbury Park ( http://tinyurl.com/58gtgt ) which is inconsistent with his posts about infrequent visits but not for anonymous posters who, to me, are always suspect.. As Alice said, Curiouser and curiouser! In a message dated

[AsburyPark] Re: Low Lights

2008-11-30 Thread justifiedright
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a horrible attempt to be right Do you post to show yourself incorrect? Please explain. I don't understand the fault in being correct. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your

[AsburyPark] Re: Low Lights

2008-11-30 Thread Jack Pitzer
There is no fault in being correct. But to make a leap about a nighttime football game and compare it to a community is really a stretch. Maybe there is no wrong or right here, just different opinions. Personally, I greatly dislike the way the area in question is lit, and I really dislike the

[AsburyPark] Re: Knock, Knock...Hellooo....

2008-11-30 Thread Jack Pitzer
Perhaps a Facebook group could help? If change is a possibility, I think the city would need to see how many people actually care about this. A few of us won't make a difference, but a few hundred might. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In

[AsburyPark] Re: Happy Turkey Day..

2008-11-30 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: newbee is listed among our members as 43, male, Asbury Park ( http://tinyurl.com/58gtgt ) which is inconsistent with his posts about infrequent visits but not for anonymous posters who, to me, are always suspect.. As Alice

[AsburyPark] Re: Knock, Knock...Hellooo....

2008-11-30 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps a Facebook group could help? If change is a possibility, I think the city would need to see how many people actually care about this. A few of us won't make a difference, but a few hundred might.

[AsburyPark] Re: Low Lights

2008-11-30 Thread justifiedright
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is no fault in being correct. But to make a leap about a nighttime football game and compare it to a community is really a stretch. This is a good post, Jack. You attack my arguement. You say a street and a

[AsburyPark] High Lights

2008-11-30 Thread wernerapnj
Adding to the subject The Casino Parking Lot was before the Planning board for approval. Thankfully they decided the lighting was inappropriate and ordered that glare shields be installed as a condition. Even with the shields in place they were too bright and problematic but that's what was

[AsburyPark] Re: Low Lights

2008-11-30 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote: There is no fault in being correct. But to make a leap about a nighttime football game and compare it to a community is really a stretch. This

[AsburyPark] Re: Happy Turkey Day..

2008-11-30 Thread nobepeymay
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi John, have you been in lately? I heard that yesterday was packed. Hope the holiday was good. Werner Werner, Thanksgiving was great thanks, spent some time in Rochester with the family, hope yours was good as well.

[AsburyPark] Knowing each other

2008-11-30 Thread Jennifer
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps a Facebook group could help? Hi Jack, I like Facebook a lot. It helps me stay in touch with a lot of people and its gotten me back in touch with even more. I now know more about people I went to High School

[AsburyPark] Re: Low Lights

2008-11-30 Thread Jack Pitzer
Thanks. I hope this doesn't ruin my attempt to do the right thing, but I have one more thing to add. Remember about a year ago, when I posted about buying a telescope? Well, part of the reason why I chose to do so was because of you Tommy, because I liked your posts about meteor showers. So, I

[AsburyPark] Re: Low Lights

2008-11-30 Thread justifiedright
By the way Jack I did read the Nat Geo you posted. The following excerpt supports my position fully. Note the author makes no qualification about opinion. He cites it as fact. Good for him. Here it is: If humans were truly at home under the light of the moon and stars, we would go in

[AsburyPark] Re: Knowing each other

2008-11-30 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jennifer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... So who wants to meet and have a drink? Jennifer = I'm in... Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group

[AsburyPark] Re: Knowing each other

2008-11-30 Thread Jack Pitzer
Thanks Jennifer! I tried to dislike Facebook because I wanted to unteather myself from the myriad of websites that take up way too much of my time, but it didn't work out, so I decided to embrace it. That being said, I recently created another Facebook group, Help the World - Christmas 2008

[AsburyPark] Re: Low Lights

2008-11-30 Thread Jack Pitzer
Yes, but once again, the discussion isn't about having lighting, it's about having appropriate, well thought out lighting that fits into the community. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: By the way Jack I did read the Nat Geo you posted. The

[AsburyPark] Re: Low Lights

2008-11-30 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: By the way Jack I did read the Nat Geo you posted. The following excerpt supports my position fully. Note the author makes no qualification about opinion. He cites it as fact. Good for him. Here it is: If

[AsburyPark] Re: Low Lights

2008-11-30 Thread justifiedright
Thank you Jack, and thanks for not seeing it as patronizing like that other fellow, instead for seeing it as the true compliment to you from me that it was. It's much easier for me to say good point to your post ( or anyone else's) about a stretched point I may have made, when the post I'm

[AsburyPark] Re: Low Lights

2008-11-30 Thread Jack Pitzer
I've always had interest in astronomy, and your posts just pushed me a little further. But, to the topic of lighting, what about what Oak wrote, about the lighting ruining the view in Watermark? Isn't that a valid point? And people in OG have been complaining to the city about our light

[AsburyPark] Re: Low Lights

2008-11-30 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think City light planning should include we amatuer astronomers. If we had our way there'd be no electricity. It's the nature of hobby to travel to seek out the dark skies (and part of the fun).

[AsburyPark] Re: Low Lights

2008-11-30 Thread justifiedright
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But, to the topic of lighting, what about what Oak wrote, about the lighting ruining the view in Watermark? Isn't that a valid point? Watermark just needs to do what Mr. C does in Allenhurst at his restaurant on the

[AsburyPark] Re: Knowing each other

2008-11-30 Thread dapawprint
Of course I am in - I send out announcements every time I visit! :-) --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jennifer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote: Perhaps a Facebook group could help? Hi Jack, I like Facebook a lot. It helps me

[AsburyPark] Re: Low Lights

2008-11-30 Thread oakdorf
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: don't tell anyone about mr c's. That has the best bar view of the ocean... Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to:

[AsburyPark] A REVISION THEATRE/RESTAURANT PLAN B DISCOUNT

2008-11-30 Thread jandlinap
FOR ALL THE FRIENDS OF REVISION THEATRE RESTAURANT PLAN B IS OFFERING A PRE-POST THEATRE 20% DISCOUNT ON DINING BRING YOUR TICKET TO SCROOGE IN ROUGE AND RECEIVE YOUR DINNER DISCOUNT ADDITIONALLY IF YOU PURCHASE YOUR THEATRE TICKETS ON LINE AT REVISIONTHEATRE.ORG AND PUT IN PLANB IN THE DISCOUNT

[AsburyPark] All Is Bright

2008-11-30 Thread MarioAPNJ
Betcha y'all thought this was about our street lights. Nope. ;-) It's for you sky watchers out there since the topic was raised today. Only thing of interest to me is the closest full moon mentioned below. Excerpts from http://tinyurl.com/5udhhl All Is Bright for Jupiter, Venus

[AsburyPark] Re: Knowing each other

2008-11-30 Thread dapawprint
As long as the roads look to be OK on Friday and Sunday, I am in! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jennifer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about next Saturday? It's first Saturday. We could meet before the festivities. Pick a bar, any bar. Well please pick one with enough room and some

[AsburyPark] Re: Happy Turkey Day..

2008-11-30 Thread sharon_b283
Now THAT, was an AWESOME post! In a nutshell, you've put a positive spin, on the reality that is Asbury Park! The Pop Warner Pee-Wee's won their championship game and are on their way to Florida! Asbury Park's Varsity Football's unbeaten record is no more! They lost to Neptune, 6-0