The best way to test this is with a full-scale sine wave from the SB2.
Very small amounts of clipping are audible on a clean sine input,
whereas with music it is only obvious in the loud parts.
In recent firmware revs there is a 1102.5 Hz sine test built in to
Squeezebox2. Press "3" on the splash
Thank you. I really appreciate you taking the time to answer me. I'll
tinker with my receiver and the SB2 and see if I can find the right
combo.
I suppose sometimes it's not as complicated as science, sometimes it
just comes down to what sounds good!
Nick
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On Fri, 2005-09-30 at 17:23 -0500, Mitch Harding wrote:
> Is that even true between FLAC and, say, 360 CBR LAME mp3?
It depends. How good are your ears? how good is your system?
VBR is nearly always better than CBR.
But why take my word for it? Form your own opinion.
All the Flac software is fre
Call me intrigued. I'm wondering how these (and generally speaking,
non-oversampling DACs) behave when hooked up to the SB2.
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Is that even true between FLAC and, say, 360 CBR LAME mp3?On 9/30/05, Mark_H <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:street_samurai Wrote:>> -Very- few people can tell the difference between a properly encoded
> Mp3 and a FLAC. You'll need a golden system AND golden ears. As Sean> pointed out, this can heavily
street_samurai Wrote:
>
> -Very- few people can tell the difference between a properly encoded
> Mp3 and a FLAC. You'll need a golden system AND golden ears. As Sean
> pointed out, this can heavily depend on the source material. MP3
> presets are optimized to be a general as possible but some ty
PhilNYC Wrote:
> I use Blue Circle hybrid gear driving Focus Audio speakers. Yes, not
> quite as fast as your Naim setup (I've never thought Naim to be edgy),
> and hardly a system that would be considered analytical.
>
> And yes, I have tried the Benchmark in my system. My reference DAC is
>
mac Wrote:
> Now that's a novel idea.
And who do I have to thank for the idea? hehe...
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radish said the following on 30/09/2005 17:17:
Mike Anderson Wrote:
Looks like it will take well over 30 mins to encode most of my CDs,
Wow. Why? Do you have a very slow CD drive or something? On my PC using
EAC a typical rip takes about 2 minutes, with compression happening in
the backgroun
I completely agree with what both Pat and Sean wrote.
So I have very little to add except that MP3-encoders can make a hugh
difference in the quality of your Mp3. Obviously settings within those
encoders can make a big difference as well.
If you are going the Mp3 route, I'd seriously consider e
On Fri, 2005-09-30 at 10:57 -0700, x94blair3 wrote:
> Let me address this question (since I can follow it). Originally I had
> my SB2 set at max (40 I think it is?) and I had my receiver down pretty
> low (in the evening when I'm sleeping)..it sounded awful. I've now
> scaled back the SB2 volume
Thanks for the links. I can't imagine modding one of these myself, but
then again I can't imagine paying $265 for what was once a $30 piece of
electronics. Not that it wouldn't be better, it obviously would.
Not to over simplify, but it appears the electronics of this box is
what makes it sound
usualsuspects Wrote:
> I take it from your original post that you are using the volume control
> in your receiver, and not the SB? You might take a look at this thread:
> http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=16209 for a good
> discussion of SB output voltage issues.
Let me address this
Wayne1,Thank you Wayne1. I emailed my friend and he should contact you. I wish I could attend too... Please report us the findings. Good luck!Best,HiroyukiOn Sep 30, 2005, at 1:44 PM, Wayne1 wrote:Hiroyuki, The gathering is still on. I am not sure about the PM system here. I can be reached a
Hiroyuki,
The gathering is still on.
I am not sure about the PM system here.
I can be reached at boldercable (at) comcast (dot) net
It will start about 6 pm tomorrow night.
I will also be at the Great Divide Lounge for the meet and great this
afternoon at RMAF. Just look around for the Audio
Wayne1,
Are you still hosting the gathering? I know somebody who wants to
attend the event but your PM doesn't seem to work. Thank you.
Best,
Hiroyuki
On Sep 26, 2005, at 2:54 PM, Wayne1 wrote:
seanadams Wrote:
Here are my own measurements. I still disagree with the idea that the
DAC'
Mike Anderson Wrote:
> Looks like it will take well over 30 mins to encode most of my CDs,
Wow. Why? Do you have a very slow CD drive or something? On my PC using
EAC a typical rip takes about 2 minutes, with compression happening in
the background and rarely taking more than another 30 seconds
Im Mac-ignorant, so I cant advise on a mac to flac tool chain. There
has to be something out there, certainly something that can rip and
encode a cd in significantly less than 30 minutes. You might want to
search over at the hyrdogenaudio.org forums.
At the risk of offending mac sensibilities
On Fri, 2005-09-30 at 08:51 -0700, Mike Anderson wrote:
> Well then, is it worth considering that 99% of my input is coming from
> CDs burned at 16 bit, 44khz? Honestly, how much can you really dress
> that up?
While there is lots of badly engineered CDs at 16/44.1 it does not have
to sound bad.
Andrew L. Weekes Wrote:
> No amount of fiddling with speakers, amps etc. can replace what isn't
> there in the first place...
Well then, is it worth considering that 99% of my input is coming from
CDs burned at 16 bit, 44khz? Honestly, how much can you really dress
that up?
Still looking aroun
pfarrell Wrote:
> Now, since I'm old, most of my favorite rock is what younger folks
> probably scoff at.
> --
> Pat
Yeah. When I was a kid, my parents would say "what is that noise?" when
I played the beatles or the stones.
Now my kid plays this rap stuff, and I go to say "what is that noise?
> Sean, you should meet Ivor Tiefenbrun (the founder of Linn Products)!
> Just say 10 times every night before you go to bed; "source first".
Or a maybe easier to relate to software analogy: -
"Garbage in, Garbage out"
No amount of fiddling with speakers, amps etc. can replace what isn't
there
Mike Hanson Wrote:
> There's a good chance that my system is faster than yours. It's
> a Naim 52 with Super-Cap power supply, two NAP135 power amps, and Royd
> RR3 speakers. About six years ago, during my massive speaker hunt, I
> listened to every speaker that I could. The Thiels that I hear
That's what I have in my bedroom, the t-amp driving a pair of in-wall B&Ws. Scroll halfway down this page and you can see it..The t-amp sounds pretty good. The low end lacks a bit of course, but mid/high sounds pretty good. I played a bit with it driving my Mission speakers (753 i think, floorstand
> In my head (at 11:32 last night), I was thinking perhaps my SB2 at full
> volume was distorting it's own music output.
>
> But if I'm understanding you correctly...it's more likely that my cheap
> HT receiver is being fed too much power by the SB2 and it's distorting
> the output? In other word
I take it from your original post that you are using the volume control
in your receiver, and not the SB? You might take a look at this thread:
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=16209 for a good
discussion of SB output voltage issues.
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Thanks for the feedback. Let me see if I'm understanding correctly.
(I'm only too lazy to TRY and learn..when it's happening accidentally,
I actually enjoy it).
In my head (at 11:32 last night), I was thinking perhaps my SB2 at full
volume was distorting it's own music output.
But if I'm under
^^^ Right, I gather that's what makes this a nice (integrated) amp - It
has no tone knobs, no balance, nothing -- just a volume knob and input
selectors.
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> Even the best preamps will slightly degrade the signal
Yes, we can tend to forget that anything in the signal path, however
esoteric and expensive, degrades the signal. I sometimes feel that we
should not talk of 'upgrades' or 'improving the sound', but that the
focus should be on minimising the
cliveb Wrote:
> Does your A3.2 have the ability to connect direct into the power amp
> side, bypassing the preamp?
Nope; it's a very basic (albeit high-quality) piece of gear.
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Does your A3.2 have the ability to connect direct into the power amp
side, bypassing the preamp? If so, I recommend you try feeding the SB2
analogue outputs direct into the power amp and use the SB2 volume
control. Even the best preamps will slightly degrade the signal, and in
my experience elimin
OK, I'm sold. I see iTunes doesn't support FLAC; any advice on what the
best software is to use for FLAC encoding and iTunes-like file
management on my iBook G4?
Thanks,
Mike
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I'll add my tuppenceworth to the good advice already posted. I'd
consider a modest spend on a bigger hard drive and FLAC encoding to be
a wiser investment than $1000 on a DAC, particularly if buying the DAC
means sticking with lossy compression. It's entirely possible that
adding a $1000 DAC might
I agree with everything Pat's said. Fifer too. Have you tried the
latest Slim Server Beta? I'm using a fairly recent build (from maybe a
week ago) and I've noticed that the output levels are much lower. I
believe they're now optimised so that the SB2 can directly drive a
power amp (eliminating
> I have always believed that room acoustics and speakers are the most
> imporant factorsSean, you should meet Ivor Tiefenbrun (the founder of Linn
> Products)!
Just say 10 times every night before you go to bed; "source first".
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This is a question not so much about the Squeezebox itself, but you all
seem to be a knowledgeable lot about audio systems in general, so I
figured I'd ask for advice.
I'm looking at getting a Squeezebox2 setup for casual listening
environment in one part of my house.
I'd like to have a CD optio
Well said Pat. I spend a reasonable amount of money on equipment with
the sole objective of making the music I listen to sound as good and
enjoyable as possible. I suspect though, that I'll always spend more
money on the music than the equipment as the that is what it's all
about. I too have found
I too would be interested in knowing what the optimal level is for going
into my amp (Musical Fidelity A3.2). The SB2 definitely puts out a hot
signal at 40; that just can't be optimal.
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