First of, I do not consider myself an audiofile and my requirements are
pretty modest. I am using NAD C541 player and NAD C370 integrated amp
with Vienna Acoustics Bach speakers wired by a Kimber Kable 8VS and
interconnects that are marginally better than consumer cables in Best
Buy. My listening
Since solid-state electronic break-in is completely unquantifiable,
and whatever positive effects experienced as a result thereof, locked
within the impenetrable mind of the true audiophile, I offer the
suggestion that perhaps what is being heard is the audiophile's mind
slowly justifying
jonheal Wrote:
Since solid-state electronic break-in is completely unquantifiable,
and whatever positive effects experienced as a result thereof, locked
within the impenetrable mind of the true audiophile, I offer the
suggestion that perhaps what is being heard is the audiophile's mind
andrei_c wrote:
I've tried encoding to FLAC instead of using WAV but it didn't make any
difference I could hear. I also checked for obvious stuff - upgraded
server software, switched interconnects, made sure SB is not connected
to PHONO, to no avail. NAD 541, priced around $500 IIRC, still
andrei_c Wrote:
First of, I do not consider myself an audiofile and my requirements are
pretty modest. I am using NAD C541 player and NAD C370 integrated amp
with Vienna Acoustics Bach speakers wired by a Kimber Kable 8VS and
interconnects that are marginally better than consumer cables in
Hum is a low frequency phenomena. It is more likely to be caused by
improper grounding than by a squeezebox radiating at 2.4 GHz. Make
sure that your preamp and turntable are grounded together.
TD
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The Burr-Brown (now TI) DRV135 can be used to convert an unbalanced
source to drive a balanced line. Data sheet here:
http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/lit/getliterature.tsp?genericPartNumber=drv135
They make a companion balanced line receiver.
This will drive a balanced line, but it doesn't
andrei_c Wrote:
My next step is to try the liner power supply and see if it helps. I'd
appreciate any other advises on where to look for solution. Also, if
anyone used SqueezeBox with NAD amplifier, please share your
experience.
Changing the power supply is only part of the equation, you
I'm using the SB3 with an NAD T760 receiver, but I'm sending the output
through the coaxial digital out. It does sound significantly better
this way than through the SB3 analog outs.
In the bedrooms, I'm using SB3s with the analog outs going to powered
speakers, and to my ears, it sounds very
http://www.mpja.com/productview.asp?product=15987+PS
5v, 1.5A for $11.95
Looks like all it needs is the proper connector - what does the SB3
take, Size M?
I really would like to avoid spending $200 or having an open board in
my rack due to grandchild and cat concerns.
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Pale Blue Ego
Tyler, thanks -- this is great. You're right, of course, about the
internal circuitry, but this is better thank nothing. I wonder if one
of our locals can do this...
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GregF Wrote:
OK, then. I'll obsess about something else for a while. Thanks all.
Please obsess about the SB3 again! How about an update? FYI I have the
same feelings about my Squeezebox. At first, the sound seems to be a
little harsh and the bass weak. I have about 80 hours on my unit and it
tyler_durden Wrote:
Hum is a low frequency phenomena. It is more likely to be caused by
improper grounding than by a squeezebox radiating at 2.4 GHz. Make
sure that your preamp and turntable are grounded together.
TD
Thanks. I have run continuity checks between the tonearm and the
I think you are correct in saying there is no problem with your
squeezebox. I have tried it vs a similar NAD cd player and it was
clearly inferior. If you do a search for my previous posts you will
see my comments on this. In my experience power supply and cable
tweaks will not gain you enough
Robin Bowes Wrote:
andrei_c wrote:
I've tried encoding to FLAC instead of using WAV but it didn't make
any
difference I could hear. I also checked for obvious stuff - upgraded
server software, switched interconnects, made sure SB is not
connected
to PHONO, to no avail. NAD 541,
RSS Wrote:
Andrei,
I agree with you. I find SB3 sounds best with volume settings between
21-23, which produces an output far weaker than my other high level
devices. Above 23 and the sound starts to pinch - base and highs
deteriorate and the air disappears. I'm just not sure if the
foobar might be a better application for you to try
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Update: Squeezebox has been installed for a week now and probably has
about 50 hours of playing time. Of that, I've spent 3 or 4 hours of
dedicated listening and my first impressions haven't changed much. On
the positive side, the Squeezebox does an excellent job of resolving
the music. I can
95bcwh Wrote:
Heuer,
Have you compared the analog out from the SB3 versus the analog out
of the $10k CD player?
Rgds
barry
No. The Theta CD transport runs balanced into the Audio Synthesis DAX
Discrete and has no analog outs. DAX runs balanced to the pre-amp and
power amp.
Biggest SB3
Thanks for the tip - but it won't work in my case (I think).
The media server (PC) will be controlled via a SB3 and a remote (don't
want keyboard + screen in my sitting room). SoftSqueeze on the PC will
be slaved to the hardware SB3 which then will work as a nice interface
only - no sound will
I have the same 'problem'...is this a software issue?
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GregF Wrote:
My Elpac WM1005-760 power supply arrives tomorrow from Allied
Electronics ($34.07, with shipping) and I look forward to hearing what
changes it makes.
Those with the open frame 3A power supplies seem to note more
improvement than those with elpacs or similar linear deskwarts,
highdudgeon Wrote:
Incidentally, for the pure hell of it, I ordered an Alpac (sp?) linear
power supply, just to experiment. As the SB gurus predicted, there was
absolutely no difference in sound. There are just so many other
imporant things.
I did hear an improvement with a linear
GregF Wrote:
Update: Squeezebox has been installed for a week now and probably has
about 50 hours of playing time. Of that, I've spent 3 or 4 hours of
dedicated listening and my first impressions haven't changed much. On
the positive side, the Squeezebox does an excellent job of resolving
rajacat Wrote:
I ordered a power supply from Cascade Surplus ($2.50) which will arrive
in a few days. It will need some soldering to connect the input and
output power cords so it will probably be a week or so until I can test
it.
It's interesting that there haven't been more complaints
CarlOtto Wrote:
SoftSqueeze on the PC will be slaved to the hardware SB3 which then
will work as a nice interface only - no sound will flow through SB3.
Can you do that? Cool...
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Pale Blue Ego Wrote:
http://www.mpja.com/productview.asp?product=15987+PS
5v, 1.5A for $11.95
Looks like the minimum order is $15.00. So, do they also sell the
connector you need?
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There's nothing remotely dumb about using subs in mono. It just depends
on your needs.
Almost all sound in the the 20-40hz octave is in mono in the CD format.
So, if your sub is trolling off your main speakers -- ie, you are
letting your mains run their full range and just adding on the subs --
I'd recommend the power one supply from cascade surplus. Then buy a
project box and mount it in there.
It's an issue of known to be good versus unknown.
-Dan
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dorkus Wrote:
coincidentally i was just playing around with regulators today on my
Sony SACD player DAC supply. i recently reworked the entire supply on a
perfboard to get the impedance lower. i also added a RC snubber, which
made a very appreciable improvement in sound quality. my values
I may try some other regulators. I wonder if things sound better
because of good distortion or for some other reasons. The LT1085
sounds good to me, so I have little incentive at the moment to go back
into that PS and change regulators.
As for snubbers, I have usually heard that term in
Skunk Wrote:
But don't forget to enjoy the music! (kidding)
That is exactly what I am doing now with my newly built PSU. Tighter
bass and cleaner S-sound on female voices is the verdict - so far.
Listening to Ana Popovic and Terry Evans. (not kidding ;)
Tom
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randytsuch Wrote:
Hi Dorkus
When you said snubber, at first I thought you were talking about the
putting RC's on each diode of the diode bridge. But, I think you are
talking about a RC filter, either before or after the voltage
regulator. I am guessing you put it before the regulator,
Hi Dorkus
Yes, ignorance is bliss, so much less to worry about if you don't know
any better.
OK, I get the snubber now, thanks for the links.
My next, what should be obvious question, is how do you calculate the
correct snubber value, if you know the output inpedance of the circuit
you are
tomsi42 Wrote:
I used a Yamaha CDX-1060 before I got my squeezebox. Not really
high-end, but it has a pleasing presentation. I am now listening to my
SB2 with a home made PSU (a 5V/3A until similar to the Power One).
I have now used the SB2 since november and it does sound more open to
me
I am thinking about buying a Squeezebox and wonder if the onboard DAC on
the Squeezebox compares to the DAC in my Denon AVR-2803 receiver. Should
I connect the Squeezebox through stereo RCA to the Denon receiver or use
optical/coax digital connection.
I have recently started using a Denon
P Floding Wrote:
Anyway, could it be that the other components you are used to are
peaky (raised treble)? (I don't know that Yamaha.)
Not now, have had that before! The Yahama seems to have reasonably good
control of the treble, compared to the typical $400-$500 CD player.
I have borrowed a
randytsuch Wrote:
My next, what should be obvious question, is how do you calculate the
correct snubber value, if you know the output inpedance of the circuit
you are adding the snubber to.
i'm still figuring that out. :) carlosfm claims to know, and he's
generally a very helpful guy but
tomsi42 Wrote:
Not now, have had that before! The Yahama seems to have reasonably good
control of the treble, compared to the typical $400-$500 CD player.
I have borrowed a DAC earlier and that was something else! The
difference in quality hit me at once (and everybody else). The
P Floding Wrote:
(Short, since my first posting was trown away by the too busy
servers.. Gr...)
I guess my TacT's D/A may not be up to showing the difference.
I'm not sure it is the quality of that DAC. I tested an
Electrocompaniet ECD-1.
It could also be that your amplifier,
My Squeezebox2 definitely interferes with my FM radio (around 92MHz).
It doesn't seem to affect my record player (moving magnet type
cartridge).
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John Stimson Wrote:
My Squeezebox2 definitely interferes with my FM radio (around 92MHz).
It doesn't seem to affect my record player (moving magnet type
cartridge).
I find that almost everything with a computer in it interferes with FM.
Especially if the reception isn't top notch.
Are you
Carl,
I think a subwoofer is essential with the Quads -- the REL is an
obviously and good choice.
Enjoy!
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The SB's SPDIF output can be converted to AES with a SC961-04 AES/EBU 75
ohms to 110 ohm SM Pulse transformer
available from:
http://www.partsconnexion.com/catalog/digital.html
At 44.1, the existing Coax or Toslink should be able to drive a long
cable run. High quality long Toslinks are
an off the shelf solution if you need to drive a long XLR run would be
to pick up a Monarchy DIP. The earlier version I have takes optical
and coax as inputs and outputs to either coax or XLR. The newer Super
DIP I have takes the same inputs but outputs to BNC or coax. HTH.
twylie
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To my knowledge this is the first time we've heard of interference
causing low frequency hum. I can't think of any signals in squeezebox
that are that slow, or could be demodulated into a lower frequency
component that would sound like hum.
It would be very helpful to know if the hum you're
GregF Wrote:
Based on some other posts I read in the forums, I initially set up my
Squeezebox at full volume (using the coax out to an external DAC). Then
I tried disabling the digital volume completely and it sounded -much-
better. Does anyone know if there's any difference internally
seanadams Wrote:
Absolutely none - these two cases are the same as far as the squeezebox
is concerned. The notion of fixed digital volume is a UI abstraction in
the server, not anything in the signal path.
Hmmm. Chalk one up to self-fulfilling expectations, I guess. I'm so
used to the analog
seanadams Wrote:
To my knowledge this is the first time we've heard of interference
causing low frequency hum. I can't think of any signals in squeezebox
that are that slow, or could be demodulated into a lower frequency
component that would sound like hum.
It would be very helpful to
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