[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Effect of SB3 volume control

2006-12-24 Thread Triggaaar
Patrick Dixon;148499 Wrote: Why on earth are people so obsessed with this volume control thing?Hi. I've just been searching for discussions on the use of the SB volume control, and this is really helpful. The reason I'm so interested, is that with this knowledge, I can maximise the quality of

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: FLAC signal levels

2006-12-24 Thread MeridianMan
tyler_durden;164603 Wrote: The VU meters on the SB3 are not accurate. They are eye candy only. TD Slightly OT, but does this remain the case on the TP? -- MeridianMan MeridianMan's Profile:

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Q:xAct or Max vs Itunes for converting CD's

2006-12-24 Thread mmg_fan
Hi Can anyone tell me what difference's there are in converting cd's to either FLAC or Appple lossless using OSX's itunes or third party software such as xAct or Max? Which is 'best'? -- mmg_fan mmg_fan's Profile:

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Grado sr60, sr80 or something else

2006-12-24 Thread Fifer
Speakers and headphones are the most likely components to benefit from burn-in, being electro-mechanical. My Grados sounded pretty damn good from the offset, but better after a good few hours. -- Fifer Fifer's Profile:

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 volume control with 20-bit external DAC

2006-12-24 Thread jonhdahl
I have a Entech 203.2 external DAC that I would like to use with my SB3. I also want to use the digital volume control on my SB3. Now I understand that the safe range with the digital volume control is about 40-100, because the Squeezebox uses 8 bits for volume information (from 24 bits). But

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SB3 volume control with 20-bit external DAC

2006-12-24 Thread Triggaaar
You will be fine, the fact that the external DAC is 20 bit does not matter. The squeezebox does not use 8 bits for volume information, but it does start with 24 bits, which is 8 more than were on the CD you probably started with. You will lose bits when reducing the volume digitally, and some

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SB3 volume control with 20-bit external DAC

2006-12-24 Thread seanadams
You _ALWAYS_ lose SNR and dynamic range. The you still have all the bits concept is completely flawed. You MUST match your source to your amp using analog attenuation. You can use 1) the gain controls on your amp 2) a preamp or 3) a RCA in-line attenuator or 4) Transporter's built-in jumpers.

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SB3 volume control with 20-bit external DAC

2006-12-24 Thread seanadams
Triggaaar;164680 Wrote: You will be fine, the fact that the external DAC is 20 bit does not matter. The squeezebox does not use 8 bits for volume information, but it does start with 24 bits, which is 8 more than were on the CD you probably started with. You will lose bits when reducing the

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Stupid Newbie Questions

2006-12-24 Thread SuperQ
milton10;164689 Wrote: I am considering getting the SB3 Wireless to be the front end of my system. My system consists of: Sophia Electric Baby tube amplifier (10wpc Class A) pushing Klipsch Heresy I's with modified crossovers to smooth out their response. The Heresy's efficiency is 94db

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter Troubles

2006-12-24 Thread bernie
I have also recently acquired a Transporter after being really impressed with owning a SB3 for one month. The setup and first short listening all appeared to be ok but when some serious listening started the troubles started for me too. It appears that after a sustained period of time, typically

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Volume bug - can you really hear it?

2006-12-24 Thread richidoo
No this thread is not related to the hiss you're hearing. Good job finding it, though, I looked for this thread a few weeks ago and couldn't find it!! The hiss is the noise floor of SB. 2 ideas to help: 1. Use an external volume control like active or passive preamp or Endler attenuating

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Stupid Newbie Questions

2006-12-24 Thread richidoo
If you upgrade the PS and cables the SB comes close to a mid level ($1K) audiophile CD player, like Quad or Rega. Especially if you play wav files ripped using EAC software which eliminates jitter and decoding chores. There are more gains to be had by modifying the SB internally if you find you

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: There are many questions about the use of preamps...

2006-12-24 Thread empty99
Mike Anderson;164610 Wrote: Well, you can listen to the music with a high quality set of cans, and a good amp to drive them. That will at least take the room effect out of the equation, which is about 98% of it. Personally though, the added reverb effect of the listening room is really

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: There are many questions about the use of preamps...

2006-12-24 Thread Mike Anderson
empty99;164722 Wrote: I've done some headphone listening of specially recorded music using microphones embeded in a dummyhead. Interesting, where can you find such music? -- Mike Anderson 'FREE RADICAL RADIO!' (http://nvo.com/cd) Hours of free radical MP3s.

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Stupid Newbie Questions

2006-12-24 Thread milton10
richidoo;164719 Wrote: If you upgrade the PS and cables the SB comes close to a mid level ($1K) audiophile CD player, like Quad or Rega. Especially if you play wav files ripped using EAC software which eliminates jitter and decoding chores. There are more gains to be had by modifying the SB

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SB3 volume control with 20-bit external DAC

2006-12-24 Thread Triggaaar
Hi Sean. Is the info in that first link too vast to cut paste here (to save everyone interested in this topic registering)? Where I use squeezeboxes, I have my maximum volume set by pre/integrated amps, and I then use the squeezeboxes to adjust the volume down, and while I expected a reduced

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SB3 volume control with 20-bit external DAC

2006-12-24 Thread wshields
So if you send digital output to a dac I assume that you should use fixed digital out of either a SB or Transporter and then adjust volume after entering analog domain, right? How about when using analog out of Trasporter to a preamp. Any general suggestions on where to adjust volume or how to

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Question about Spouses?

2006-12-24 Thread drewe181
my wife doesn't understand how putting a speaker behind a couch or having the arm of the couch blocking part of a speaker can compromise the sound. or why i 'HAVE' to place the speakers where i want them to be. then again, given in a few months i will have my own 'entertainment' room, i can slug

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Audiophile virgin asking for help/advice.

2006-12-24 Thread Pat Farrell
Phil Leigh wrote: Pat - you forgot the sagging rectifier valve, the quality of the wood in the cab, the particular type of battery in your special Tubescreamer :0) Batteries? I don't need no steekin batteries. A Strat with single coils and a tube amp. Except when I want to hear my ES-335,

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: There are many questions about the use of preamps...

2006-12-24 Thread Phil Leigh
empty99;164607 Wrote: So let recap what been said so far: - There are some artificial ingredients added to boost pleasantry in recorded music Absolutely empty99;164607 Wrote: - There maybe a chance to boost same from the end user (unlikely, due to low cost non linear equipment or

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Problem with Slim Server

2006-12-24 Thread lafayette
I thought this was cute -- private mail from Radish Mods in this forum don't wear badges. You're new here, it's a nice friendly place but don't take that to mean it's OK to talk back to other members. If someone tells you your post is inappropriate, take note. Is such high-handed posturing and

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Problem with Slim Server

2006-12-24 Thread lafayette
A lovely exchange: I'll play the mature guy and not respond to your insults, other than to ask you not continue to post such comments (whoever they're directed at) on this forum. Discussion of topics relevant to the particular forum you're in is always welcome, personal attacks never are. An

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SB3 volume control with 20-bit external DAC

2006-12-24 Thread mr_bill
seanadams;164681 Wrote: You _ALWAYS_ lose SNR and dynamic range. The you still have all the bits concept is completely flawed. You MUST match your source to your amp using analog attenuation. You can use 1) the gain controls on your amp 2) a preamp or 3) a RCA in-line attenuator or 4)

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Noise level of SB3

2006-12-24 Thread Ron F .
opaqueice;164423 Wrote: If you replace the SB by a CD player or other source (using the *same cables and the same inputs*), do you get a significantly lower level of hiss? By the way, when you say there is a lot of hiss, do you mean when the SB is idle, or when it's playing something?

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SB3 volume control with 20-bit external DAC

2006-12-24 Thread seanadams
mr_bill;164751 Wrote: Sean, As an example, could you explain to us how to best use the jumpers in the Transporter and the volume range of 0-100 to properly match source to amp. That would be very helpful. The new 0 to 100 scale is, I believe, true decibels. (In the past when we used

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Noise level of SB3

2006-12-24 Thread seanadams
Ron F.;164758 Wrote: When I was comparing the noise floor of my SB3 with my CD player, (which is a NAD C542 by the way,) I was using identical cables via another input on my preamp. I tried swapping the inputs on the preamp, and the noise floor followed the SB3. I tried unplugging the CD