Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Directly to amp, stresses the Transporter?

2007-04-27 Thread ModelCitizen
Yup, sterile sound at low volumes about sums it up. At high volumes it's very different for me. Cable I already hate myself for getting this far into this audiophile world. I think if I started comparing cables it's time to jump off Brighton pier! However, if it's not too expensive I may have

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Inguz DRC - I must be doing something wrong...

2007-04-27 Thread CFP
SoftwireEngineer;197578 Wrote: > Hi CFP, > I am happy to see another SB3+Panny owner with a good set of speakers. > I am bi-amping Silverline Sonatinas with the Panny XR55. I have digital > mods on my SB3+a modded Elpac. I am trying to use the inguz equalizer > first, but I dont think it is reall

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Inguz Audio tips and initial impressions

2007-04-27 Thread muski
Good news -- thanks for your response. Indeed there is a calibration file available for the Analog Radio Shack SPL on the RPLusD sites. See: http://www.etfacoustic.com/support.html. I wonder if it is in a format that will work with either Acourate or DRC... -- muski --

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Inguz Audio tips and initial impressions

2007-04-27 Thread Mark Lanctot
muski;198007 Wrote: > Not sure if these are doing the same thing as the Inguztools, but they > both let you use a Radio Shack analog SPL meter as the mic (no preamp > required either). I guess I am asking if I can either a) use an SPL > with Audacity, or b) get useful measurements for the Inguz

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Directly to amp, stresses the Transporter?

2007-04-27 Thread nuhi
ModelCitizen, don't know about the distorsions, never heard any but then again I'm never even near the max. About the sterile sound, if I may call it like that...I have the the exact issue (and taste in music) and it took me some time to figure out it's Bryston+PMC studio sound by swapping cords

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB digital vol control SNR etc looking for threads to read up on the subject please

2007-04-27 Thread Deaf Cat
Help :) looking for any pointers to threads discussing the digital volume sound quality/adjustment/best range etc for the SB. Any directions appreciated Cheers -- Deaf Cat Deaf Cat's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.co

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Inguz Audio tips and initial impressions

2007-04-27 Thread inguz
I haven't tried the RS SPL meter, but I think it should work - the sound card connections diagram on page 9 of the ETF intro doc (http://www.etfacoustic.com/software/RPlusD/RPlusDIntro.PDF) has approximately the same connections I recommend (http://inguzaudio.com/measurement/recording-sweeps/), ex

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What mods on SB3 REALLY make a difference in reducing jitter?

2007-04-27 Thread Ben Diss
Patrick Dixon;198013 Wrote: > http://www.diyhifi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1027 Summary of the "Lavry" issue: When the DA10 was first introduced the manual stated that is was not oversampling. A revision of the manual later removed that statement. It appears that the Lavry does indeed oversa

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] I don't think it gets loud enough

2007-04-27 Thread ModelCitizen
Does seem odd doesn't it. I've just been looking at the Bryston 4B ST specs and the balanced output is 6db higher than the unbalanced... however the input sensitivity varies between the two types too... if I guess right (which I probably haven't) this negates the gain. The figures can be seen in t

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Directly to amp, stresses the Transporter?

2007-04-27 Thread ModelCitizen
Nope, no switches. I'm now really confused. I think the 4B might be too powerful for the OB1s, in that the OB1s appear to distort if I play a loud track at full volume the Bryston red clipping leds do not come on so I presume it is not the Bryston amp clipping. If this is the case, the OB1s a

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] I don't think it gets loud enough

2007-04-27 Thread Deaf Cat
discocarp;197975 Wrote: > One thought, balanced would have 6db more gain than the rca connections > right? I've read that xlr's are louder than rca'swhy? -- Deaf Cat Deaf Cat's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What mods on SB3 REALLY make a difference in reducing jitter?

2007-04-27 Thread Patrick Dixon
325xi;197993 Wrote: > I think Dan Lavry is one of the engineers we can believe to what he's > saying...http://www.diyhifi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1027 -- Patrick Dixon www.at-tunes.co.uk Patrick Dixon's Profile: http:

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] DRC with Symetrix 322 DSP Engine?

2007-04-27 Thread muski
Just moved into a new house with a living/listening room that is an acoustical nightmare (with WAF-affected speaker placement, to boot). So, I thought I would experiment with some DRC. At the moment I have Slimserver running on a 450Mhz Mac Cube, so I am not inguz-compatible. (I can do some exp

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Inguz Audio tips and initial impressions

2007-04-27 Thread muski
Is it possible to get measurements using an SPL instead of a 'real' mic like the ECM8000? I have been looking at measurement sw such as Room EQ Wizard (http://www.hometheatershack.com/roomeq/) and RPlusD/ETF (http://www.etfacoustic.com/RPlusDSite/index.html). Not sure if these are doing the same

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Experiments with bi-wire speaker cable

2007-04-27 Thread ErikM
If the Brysons are are stereo amps ( I believe they are) you can do a vertical bi-amp, best of all worlds. -- ErikM ErikM's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7576 View this thread: http://forums.slim

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What mods on SB3 REALLY make a difference in reducing jitter?

2007-04-27 Thread 325xi
cliveb;197367 Wrote: > So before you expend a great deal of effort to reduce the jitter of the > SB3's digital output, you need to verify that whatever levels of jitter > are already present are indeed audible. Most of the people that compared Transporter and SB3 connected to the same outboard D

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What mods on SB3 REALLY make a difference in reducing jitter?

2007-04-27 Thread 325xi
crooner;197355 Wrote: > The much lauded Lavry DAC also has a generic switcher PS. It's a shame > more and more manufacturers are resorting to this. There's interesting discussion on Lavry's own forums about his choice of PS, and he insists that his decision to use switcher was purely technical,

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What mods on SB3 REALLY make a difference in reducing jitter?

2007-04-27 Thread Robin Bowes
mswlogo wrote: > Robin Bowes;197880 Wrote: >> Don't forget the DAC stage - quite a few variables there. Unless >> you're considering the SB3->external DAC use-case? > > I don't care about the DAC, my speakers are Active. > > I agree there is tons of stuff you can play with in the analog > domain

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What mods on SB3 REALLY make a difference in reducing jitter?

2007-04-27 Thread chinablues
"To date, they include hair loss, sickness, high blood-pressure, digestive and memory problems, severe headaches and dizziness". Check it out. I think jitter is the least of our worries!! Holy crow, do I need one of these nets over my head or over the system? Faraday where are you when I need

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] I don't think it gets loud enough

2007-04-27 Thread discocarp
One thought, balanced would have 6db more gain than the rca connections right? -- discocarp discocarp's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7814 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthre

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] I don't think it gets loud enough

2007-04-27 Thread alZmtbr
According to the PDF for the 4B ST there are level setting screws on the front panel "PROFESSIONAL MODELS ONLY". See technical Info for legacy amps at http://www.bryston.ca -- alZmtbr alZmtbr's Profile: http://forums.slim

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] I don't think it gets loud enough

2007-04-27 Thread discocarp
PhilNYC;197963 Wrote: > The input sensitivity on the Krell amp is 2.33Vrms (and gain of 25db), > so it does appear that the 2 Vrms isn't quite enough... So then its live with it or get a preamp, right? -- discocarp disco

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] I don't think it gets loud enough

2007-04-27 Thread PhilNYC
seanadams;197813 Wrote: > 2 Vrms is all she does. If you want more you need a preamp, or you might > pop the cover on your amp and see if its gain can be adjusted. The input sensitivity on the Krell amp is 2.33Vrms (and gain of 25db), so it does appear that the 2 Vrms isn't quite enough... --

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What mods on SB3 REALLY make a difference in reducing jitter?

2007-04-27 Thread 95bcwh
Just for the record, I have stopped responding to your threads because I feel extremely bad arguing with someone who obviously has hearing problem. Please don't make me start again. Have a nice day. tomjtx;197949 Wrote: > 95, Perhaps you should clarify your question because in it's present > for

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Directly to amp, stresses the Transporter?

2007-04-27 Thread Andyoz
Does the 4B ST have 1V/2V "gain" switches on the rear panel. The SST does and with my SB3, I have to set it to the 'lower gain' setting of 2V and I still feel I am getting a very high level out of it. If I set it to the 'higher gain' setting of 1V I would be worried about blowing something. ust

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What mods on SB3 REALLY make a difference in reducing jitter?

2007-04-27 Thread tomjtx
95bcwh;197749 Wrote: > If all that matter is jitter..then why so many high end audio > manufacturers manage to co-exist? 95, Perhaps you should clarify your question because in it's present form it is nonsensical. Did you mean to state: (capitals indicate change) if all that matterS is jitter.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Directly to amp, stresses the Transporter?

2007-04-27 Thread nuhi
ModelCitizen, thought that you might experience that, it will not go to it's full potential without a preamp, simply not enough gain. And those PMC speakers are hard to drive as it is. Borrow some preamp at a friend or a shop. Paring source and amp without a preamp is a lottery. What about the so

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Active Speakers

2007-04-27 Thread Furry
I've just bought the Aego M active speakers, and these really do sound very good - better than my Sony CMT-CP505 mini 'Hi-Fi'. So I'm now considering replacing this 'Hi-Fi' with the Aego M system - after all, I don't need the Sony's CD player (all my CDs will soon be ripped), or its tuner (I can

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Longevity and getting old stuff serviced

2007-04-27 Thread ModelCitizen
I'm just about to get my Quad IIs, pre-amp and tuner back and will be adding some speakers, an SB2 and possible a home made power supply. Won't be my main system though. MC -- ModelCitizen It is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying an

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Directly to amp, stresses the Transporter?

2007-04-27 Thread ModelCitizen
mcBaby02;197869 Wrote: > Check out if there is any short circuit. Cheers. I've been meaning to post back. I had prepared box, letter, ra, etc to post the amp back, went downstairs to amp with the box, saw I'd forgottent ot turn the amp off so tried playing some music with the Transporter... and i

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What mods on SB3 REALLY make a difference in reducing jitter?

2007-04-27 Thread mswlogo
Robin Bowes;197880 Wrote: > mswlogo wrote: > > 95bcwh;197749 Wrote: > >> If all that matter is jitter..then why so many high end audio > >> manufacturers manage to co-exist? > > > > There is the original data and jitter (timing). > > > > What else is there? > > > > All the computer folk (my s

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What mods on SB3 REALLY make a difference in reducing jitter?

2007-04-27 Thread Robin Bowes
mswlogo wrote: > 95bcwh;197749 Wrote: >> If all that matter is jitter..then why so many high end audio >> manufacturers manage to co-exist? > > There is the original data and jitter (timing). > > What else is there? > > All the computer folk (my self included) assumed a CD was just bits and > i

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] I don't think it gets loud enough

2007-04-27 Thread cliveb
ModelCitizen;197857 Wrote: > Intially I was surprised that the whole rig was not lounder, especially > considering tht the speakers and amp are 300w per channel and are > supposed to have been designed for each other (or at least the speakers > designed for the amp). > However, the Transporter se

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Tried the Mac Mini directly to the DAC

2007-04-27 Thread mcBaby02
What an accidentally cool sound set-up! I want to try it and see for myself if it's working really good. ___ Rex 'McIntosh Laboratory' (http://www.who-sells-it.com/cy/mcintosh-laboratory-inc-1500/) - Download The New McIntosh Laboratory Catalogs -- mcBaby02 --

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] I don't think it gets loud enough

2007-04-27 Thread ModelCitizen
I've been running my Transporter directly into a Bryston 4B ST (unbalanced, no attenuation) and then into a pair of PMC OB1s for a couple of days. Intially I was surprised that the whole rig was not lounder, especially considering tht the speakers and amp are 300w per channel and are supposed to