Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Quality of digital outs from the Squeezebox

2011-03-06 Thread stop-spinning
Phil Leigh;615791 Wrote: It's no assumption, it is fact - the circuit is different and better. The way the s/pdif is formed and sent is cleaner. I'm not sure why you keep asking subtle variations on the same question? It's almost as if you'd prefer it if there was no difference... I

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Quality of digital outs from the Squeezebox

2011-03-06 Thread JezA
stop-spinning - you can't get high-end sound from cheap products. end of story. Look around for a Benchmark DAC1 USB second hand - should be able to get one for medium hundreds. A definite high-end, studio quality product. Proper async USB. Other s/pdif inputs and a volume control so exceedingly

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Quality of digital outs from the Squeezebox

2011-03-06 Thread Phil Leigh
How large is your music collection? how many tracks? -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF x-dacv3/x-10/x-psu(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Quality of digital outs from the Squeezebox

2011-03-06 Thread Robin Bowes
On 06/03/11 12:23, JezA wrote: stop-spinning - you can't get high-end sound from cheap products. end of story. Not true. R. -- Feed that ego and you starve the soul - Colonel J.D. Wilkes http://www.theshackshakers.com/ ___ audiophiles mailing

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Quality of digital outs from the Squeezebox

2011-03-06 Thread Mnyb
I'm generally not swayed by the the myth of constant progress ( I had until a recent accident 18 year old speakers ). Pile up 20 years of audimags single out a manufacturer eg yamaha or luxman or something else look at the slightly different names the give their key technology and watch how the

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Whatever happened to the Audiophile?

2011-03-06 Thread Curt962
When was Stereo it all sounds the same Review ever considered a Sacred Text? I cancelled my subscription in the early 1980's when I decided the glossy paper made the magazine unsuitable for lining bird cages. -- Curt962 Transporter...TouchBoom..

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Creating correction filter (DRC) with Align

2011-03-06 Thread AlexMurphy
Vanderham, I'm having exactly the same problem with Align that you were. Is it possible for you to send the older copy of Align to me or to refer me to the Solostatic.com contact that sent you the older copy? Thanks, Alex -- AlexMurphy

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Quality of digital outs from the Squeezebox

2011-03-06 Thread JezA
Robin Bowes;615833 Wrote: On 06/03/11 12:23, JezA wrote: stop-spinning - you can't get high-end sound from cheap products. end of story. Not true. R. So .. what's your actual suggestion? -- JezA JezA's

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Whatever happened to the Audiophile?

2011-03-06 Thread Henry66
SuperQ;615784 Wrote: Records were being compressed to the limit in the Jukebox era to get the most volume out of the equipment.Ha! I did not know this. I though the Walkman with its crappy headphones started the trend. -- Henry66

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Quality of digital outs from the Squeezebox

2011-03-06 Thread Eriko
JezA;615865 Wrote: So .. what's your actual suggestion? Which cheap products do you think give high-end sound? I´m not Robin Bowes, but IMO, the SB3 internal dac with Inguz EQ (free), beats any dac regardless of price. The subtle differences between modern dacs and/or transports are

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Worst sounding album in your collection

2011-03-06 Thread firedog
I tend to block the really bad ones out and never listen to them or get rid of them, but... A Wizard, A True Star LP by Todd Rundgren. Well over 50 minutes, and heavily compressed to make it playable. No real high or low frequencies, and the music (which I actually like) is sort of high

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Worst sounding album in your collection

2011-03-06 Thread firedog
TiredLegs;615624 Wrote: There's a DCC version of Aqualung currently listed on eBay for $284! (http://cgi.ebay.com/JETHRO-TULL-Aqualung-Rare-DCC-Gold-Disc-CD-SEALED-oop-/360322542448) That price, by the way, is cheaper than for any new condition version of that CD I could find elsewhere. Not

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Quality of digital outs from the Squeezebox

2011-03-06 Thread JezA
Eriko;615891 Wrote: I´m not Robin Bowes, but IMO, the SB3 internal dac with Inguz EQ (free), beats any dac regardless of price. The subtle differences between modern dacs and/or transports are irrelevant in comparison to getting the 20-200 hz frequencies to only vary -+ 2db and cutting the

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Worst sounding album in your collection

2011-03-06 Thread Mnyb
Joe jackson blaze of glory . The sound is thin and fatiguing :( it sound like it's gone trough and reverse riaa filter then someone by mistake sent this to the cd plant instead of the lp plant, except for that if memory serves me rigth the lp i once had sounded just as bad. The whole production

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Worst sounding album in your collection

2011-03-06 Thread ralphpnj
firedog;615906 Wrote: I tend to block the really bad ones out and never listen to them or get rid of them, but... A Wizard, A True Star LP by Todd Rundgren. Well over 50 minutes, and heavily compressed to make it playable. No real high or low frequencies, and the music (which I

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Quality of digital outs from the Squeezebox

2011-03-06 Thread Eriko
JezA;615909 Wrote: Which DACs 'regardless of price' have you actually tried? Could Inguz not 'improve' those equally? The Naim DAC is probably the most expensive one I´ve hooked up to my stereo. My point was to your question, So .. what's your actual suggestion? Which cheap products do you

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Quality of digital outs from the Squeezebox

2011-03-06 Thread Phil Leigh
Eriko;615923 Wrote: ...BTW, going from the SB3 to Touch as a digital transport for my CA 840c DAC section did improve the sound, but it´s so subtle in comparison to what Inguz does. Therefore, I have to smile when people are trying to improve their sound with Soundcheck Toolbox 2.0, which

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Quality of digital outs from the Squeezebox

2011-03-06 Thread Robin Bowes
On 06/03/11 16:01, JezA wrote: Robin Bowes;615833 Wrote: On 06/03/11 12:23, JezA wrote: stop-spinning - you can't get high-end sound from cheap products. end of story. Not true. R. So .. what's your actual suggestion? Others have already made suggestions. I didn't have anything

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Quality of digital outs from the Squeezebox

2011-03-06 Thread Phil Leigh
stop-spinning;615812 Wrote: ...One possible extremely good source is the Chevron Audio modified QA550 - yes the UI is non-existent - but I bet the transport is as good as it gets and for me, my priority is hi-end sound (even though I love the great UI you get with the SB). ...QUOTE] I

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Worst sounding album in your collection

2011-03-06 Thread firedog
Boy, writing that made me go back and listen to my FLAC rip of the CD. Not quite as bad sounding as the LP - I think the quiet background and greater dynamics of the CD help it - but it still sounds so flat and lifeless. I actually like the music and lyrics. But it is definitely one of those

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Quality of digital outs from the Squeezebox

2011-03-06 Thread JezA
You still haven't made any concrete suggestions Robin. -- JezA JezA's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21219 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84903

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Worst sounding album in your collection

2011-03-06 Thread Percival Sweetwater
Henry, I'm sure a 24bit 192kHz version would sound infinitely better! -- Percival Sweetwater Percival Sweetwater's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43302 View this thread:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Quality of digital outs from the Squeezebox

2011-03-06 Thread Robin Bowes
On 06/03/11 20:15, JezA wrote: You still haven't made any concrete suggestions Robin. What part of ...I think a Touch with a good amp/speaker combination, or a pair of good active speakers... is not specific? R. -- Feed that ego and you starve the soul - Colonel J.D. Wilkes

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Worst sounding album in your collection

2011-03-06 Thread Robin Bowes
On 06/03/11 20:41, Percival Sweetwater wrote: Henry, I'm sure a 24bit 192kHz version would sound infinitely better! Only if streamed as wav (not FLAC), and from a Windows server, not linux, and using a green cable, not red. R. -- Feed that ego and you starve the soul - Colonel J.D. Wilkes

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Rega DAC - Has anyone auditioned one yet?

2011-03-06 Thread i-d-b
Any body tried both these DACs with the Touch. I've got £500 burning a hole in my pocket and want to get the best sound from my touch with my RA-1520 AMP and BW CM8 speakers running Apple lossless files from an HDD attached to the touch. Thanks -- i-d-b

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Whatever happened to the Audiophile?

2011-03-06 Thread ralphpnj
Henry66;615757 Wrote: An 'article about audiophiles' (http://www.npr.org/2011/03/05/134256592/whatever-happened-to-the-audiophile) in the arts life section of NPR. Pretty accurate, I would say, based on my anecdotal evidence. Sure there are audiophile very similar to the one depicted in

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Worst sounding album in your collection

2011-03-06 Thread ralphpnj
Robin Bowes;615946 Wrote: On 06/03/11 20:41, Percival Sweetwater wrote: Henry, I'm sure a 24bit 192kHz version would sound infinitely better! Only if streamed as wav (not FLAC), and from a Windows server, not linux, and using a green cable, not red. R. Streamed wirelessly or

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Quality of digital outs from the Squeezebox

2011-03-06 Thread JezA
Robin Bowes;615943 Wrote: On 06/03/11 20:15, JezA wrote: You still haven't made any concrete suggestions Robin. What part of ...I think a Touch with a good amp/speaker combination, or a pair of good active speakers... is not specific? R. -- You think a Touch is high end!?

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Quality of digital outs from the Squeezebox

2011-03-06 Thread stop-spinning
Yes I would have to admit that I would not have expected the Touch alone to be hi-end; not without an external DAC and a little more help... I believe however that the Touch with a Teddy Pardo power supply won't hold back any DAC under £2000 (from my understanding). Of course, as I mentioned

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Creating correction filter (DRC) with Align

2011-03-06 Thread Phoenix
AlexMurphy;615862 Wrote: Vanderham, I'm having exactly the same problem with Align that you were. Is it possible for you to send the older copy of Align to me or to refer me to the Solostatic.com contact that sent you the older copy? Thanks, Alex I read their literature and am

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Creating correction filter (DRC) with Align

2011-03-06 Thread Phoenix
How can this program be used with SB3? As a plug in? Or as just a measuring program for Inguz? Can it also be used to generate correction curves that Inguz can use? What's the advantage to using his over Inguz? Ease of operation? Greater accuracy in correction? Better time alignment of

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Creating correction filter (DRC) with Align

2011-03-06 Thread Phil Leigh
Phoenix;615988 Wrote: I read their literature and am wondering if I can use my microphones with this program. I have a Behringer ECM-8000 and the Tact Microphone. Based on what I am reading it appears I can not unless I have them calibrated, which I have no clue how to do. Any thoughts?