Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] S/PDIF cables should be (a) - =1.5m or (b) as short as possible?

2011-04-15 Thread JezA
If the length of an s/pdif cable makes a difference to your DAC, don't buy more s/pdif cables, sell your DAC and buy one that works properly. Why throw good money after bad? -- JezA JezA's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] S/PDIF cables should be (a) - =1.5m or (b) as short as possible?

2011-04-15 Thread darrenyeats
At the risk of getting a reputation for being deaf (!) I've now tried my coax versus my optical and I couldn't detect any difference, using a Benchmark DAC1 HDR. I am using optical for convenience - shorter and I can skip all discussion of cable-borne noise! Regards, Darren -- darrenyeats

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-04-15 Thread firedog
Guys- I know it's fun to snipe and sound superior, but both Phil and John have taken measurements that MIGHT explain a positive effect on sound of Soundcheck's mods. They've at least taken measurements that show that the mods do have some measurable effect on the output of the Touch. So the

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] S/PDIF cables should be (a) - =1.5m or (b) as short as possible?

2011-04-15 Thread garym
darrenyeats;625481 Wrote: At the risk of getting a reputation for being deaf (!) I've now tried my coax versus my optical and I couldn't detect any difference, using a Benchmark DAC1 HDR. I am using optical for convenience - shorter! Regards, Darren Understand that if you actually

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-04-15 Thread Tom186
mervin_b;625251 Wrote: Right now I use 12897 (no kidding..). Compared to the default 2, it does seem to sound smoother, yet remain clear and detailed. Hi, I don't have much time for the non-empirical part of this thread, but here is my observation regarding the suggested 12897 buffer

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-04-15 Thread snottmonster
firedog;625489 Wrote: They've at least taken measurements that show that the mods do have some measurable effect on the output of the Touch. Really? I haven't seen any such definitive measurements, though as a new guy around here I could quite easily have missed something. I did recently

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-04-15 Thread aubuti
snottmonster;625526 Wrote: So in all seriousness, please point me to any such measurements - I'd be very interested to see them and the conclusions drawn. Start around post #329 in this thread. Note that those are Phil's measurements on the analog outputs. -- aubuti

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-04-15 Thread snottmonster
aubuti;625527 Wrote: Start around post #329 in this thread. Note that those are Phil's measurements on the analog outputs. Urghh... Thanks (I think). I got as far as the new claim that A Windows based server sounds better then a Linux based server on the same HW (ie about 10 pages) and felt

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-04-15 Thread garym
snottmonster;625542 Wrote: Urghh... Thanks (I think). I got as far as the new claim that A Windows based server sounds better then a Linux based server on the same HW (ie about 10 pages) and felt the will to live slowly draining from my body... Anyway, based on those results I revise my

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-04-15 Thread aubuti
snottmonster;625542 Wrote: Urghh... Thanks (I think). I got as far as the new claim that A Windows based server sounds better then a Linux based server on the same HW (ie about 10 pages) and felt the will to live slowly draining from my body... No, no -- have another beverage (espresso, ale,

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-04-15 Thread adamdea
Whatver the merits of other mods, the really extraordinary claim is that the volume =100% mod makes a difference when it seems to have been estabolished that there is abolutely no difference from just having the volume at 100% in any value of any processs running on the cpu. I probably will

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-04-15 Thread Tom186
It's so easy (and cost free) to try these mods ... is it not a waste of breath to speculate about them without giving them a whirl? -- Tom186 Tom186's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43852 View

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-04-15 Thread adamdea
Tom186;625569 Wrote: It's so easy (and cost free) to try these mods ... is it not a waste of breath to speculate about them without giving them a whirl? Err no. The original advice from Soundcheck was that it was not worth applying the mods unless you are going wired. This is not in fact a

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-04-15 Thread Gazjam
adamdea;625575 Wrote: Err no. The original advice from Soundcheck was that it was not worth applying the mods unless you are going wired. This is not in fact a cost-free exercise if you do not have ethernet cabling installed. If I have misunderstood I am quite happy to be corrected.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-04-15 Thread magiccarpetride
aubuti;625547 Wrote: And as for 'Gazjam's question' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?p=625418#post625418), yes, I did try the mods. I didn't do extensive comparisons, but I'm not even sure I heard 'something'. Can you supply us with definitive measurements proving that you're

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-04-15 Thread aubuti
magiccarpetride;625607 Wrote: Can you supply us with definitive measurements proving that you're actually alive? Sure. Your point? Obviously I heard 'something', i.e., the music. But in my case I cannot say with any degree of certainty that I heard a difference in sound before and after

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-04-15 Thread magiccarpetride
aubuti;625615 Wrote: Sure. Your point? Obviously I heard 'something', i.e., the music. But in my case I cannot say with any degree of certainty that I heard a difference in sound before and after soundcheck's mods. I _can_ say with certainty that I did not hear the '\staggering

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-04-15 Thread Tom186
aubuti;625615 Wrote: I _can_ say with certainty that I did not hear the '\staggering improvements in the sound quality\' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?p=602233#post602233) that you and others report hearing (and you hadn't even disabled wifi yet). Which brand of audiophile

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-04-15 Thread aubuti
magiccarpetride;625617 Wrote: OK, let me ask you this: are you, or have you ever been able, to hear ANY differences in the sound quality when comparing two systems? Most definitely. Again: what's your point? -- aubuti

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Hearing the differences

2011-04-15 Thread garym
magiccarpetride;625616 Wrote: It would appear that in order to pass the rite of passage and be decorated with the you're now one of us, one of the in-crowd gold medal on this (and on many other audiophile forums), one need to put on the most cynical, skeptical face and ridicule and deride

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Hearing the differences

2011-04-15 Thread snottmonster
Having just read 'the post(s) that seem to have inspired this thread' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?p=625617), let's fix that statement to reflect the alternate point of view: It would appear that in order to pass the rite of passage and be decorated with the you're now one of

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Hearing the differences

2011-04-15 Thread Soulkeeper
In my view, sometimes there is a discernible difference, sometimes there is not. It depends on what has been substituted for what. Yes, the people who always claim there's no difference at all, regardless of what modification has been made, are deluded. Just like the people who always claim that

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Hearing the differences

2011-04-15 Thread earwaxer9
magiccarpetride;625616 Wrote: It would appear that in order to pass the rite of passage and be decorated with the you're now one of us, one of the in-crowd gold medal on this (and on many other audiophile forums), one need to put on the most cynical, skeptical face and ridicule and deride

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Hearing the differences

2011-04-15 Thread Soulkeeper
Ok, you've disclosed the conspiracy, I admit it. Audio forums exist so people can reassure themselves there are no differences between equipment, just like car forums exist so people can reassure themselves that all cars are exactly the same. ;) -- Soulkeeper -that is not dead which can

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] question on DAC roll off filter

2011-04-15 Thread earwaxer9
michael123;625283 Wrote: http://www.asahi-kasei.co.jp/akm/en/product/ak4396/ak4396.html Why does the Transporter with the AK4286 not accept 192khz sample rate? Looking at the filter characteristics on pgs 11 on. It appears there is a significant difference in filter effects (as expected) with

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Hearing the differences

2011-04-15 Thread earwaxer9
Soulkeeper;625648 Wrote: Ok, you've disclosed the conspiracy, I admit it. Audio forums exist so people can reassure themselves there are no differences between equipment, just like car forums exist so people can reassure themselves that all cars are exactly the same. ;) In car forums they

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Hearing the differences

2011-04-15 Thread MediaCenter
Audio reproduction is a multi-dimensional problem. The two groups Audiophiles (Art of sound) and non-Audiophile (Science of sound) are unable to answer many unanswered questions. Our tendency as humans is to come to a conclusion because our minds cannot deal with infinitum comfortably. We know

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] question on DAC roll off filter

2011-04-15 Thread Wombat
earwaxer9;625655 Wrote: Why does the Transporter with the AK4286 not accept 192khz sample rate? The cumputing power inside the Transporter just isnĀ“t up to it and it is for sure hard to always guarantee the datastream. Mr Sean Adams himself somewhere explained that somewhere in detail afaik.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] question on DAC roll off filter

2011-04-15 Thread earwaxer9
thanks wombat! -- earwaxer9 System: modified Winsome Labs Mouse, modified Maggie MMG's, Transporter, HSU sub 12, MSB DAC to 500 watt sub slave amp, JPS labs power cords, Silver audio interconnect, Audioquest Granite speaker cable.