Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2011-12-31 Thread Jacky
cfraser;680534 Wrote: Guess I'm not the only one then... :) That's why I mentioned I had to increase buffer size for some tt configs. And yes, it's *always* the LEFT channel. I guessed it was some process that was getting interrupted before completion, and that it was a process that handled

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2011-12-31 Thread audiomuze
Just a question - are you tweakers predominantly using analog or digital out on the TP? -- audiomuze *'Linux finally gets a great audio tagger' (http://www.ubuntugeek.com/linux-finally-gets-a-great-audio-tagger.html): 'puddletag' (http://puddletag.sourceforge.net/)*

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Optical (toslink) connection

2011-12-31 Thread Dura
This thread had me experimenting again. It still baffles me that the audible differences between digital cables can be so large; between my Touch and Rega DAC I used to use an Oyaide 510. Beautiful well made cable, pure silver, multiple shields, and it sounded great with former dacs. However,

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Optical (toslink) connection

2011-12-31 Thread steveinaz
Toslink's presentation is just very (for lack of a better word) -clean-. IMO it's the lack of an electronic connection, that makes for the blacker background, smoother treble, more solidified bass. -- steveinaz - transport: squeezebox touch / ci audio ps - dac: benchmark dac/pre - linestage:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2011-12-31 Thread rgro
audiomuze;680588 Wrote: Just a question - are you tweakers predominantly using analog or digital out on the TP? TP We're mostly talking about the Touch, here, if that's what you're asking. Using Touch's digital out, here. -- rgro Rg System information

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2011-12-31 Thread guidof
audiomuze;680588 Wrote: Just a question - are you tweakers predominantly using analog or digital out on the TP? Both (see sig). Out of TOUCH. ;-) Guido F. -- guidof MUSIC ROOM: Marantz TT 15S1 Turntable, Virtuoso Wood Cartridge-Conrad Johnson Motif preamp Oppo BDP-83 Universal

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2011-12-31 Thread audiomuze
^^^ meant Touch. So, given you're effectively using an external DAC, and the Touch is already pretty good on the digital side,what could all these tweaks possibly achieve? -- audiomuze *'Linux finally gets a great audio tagger'

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2011-12-31 Thread garym
audiomuze;680640 Wrote: ^^^ meant Touch. So, given you're effectively using an external DAC, and the Touch is already pretty good on the digital side,what could all these tweaks possibly achieve? It keeps the crazies off the street and out of trouble. ;-) -- garym Location 1: VB

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2011-12-31 Thread TheOctavist
digital here! It's fun, and free. Why not? -- TheOctavist VortexboxSBT(TT 3.0/SBGK)Forssell MDAC-2Klein and Hummell 0300D Sota Sapphire/Lyra KleosBespoke Valve Phono StageMastersound Due VentiLink Audio K100

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2011-12-31 Thread rgro
garym;680642 Wrote: It keeps the crazies off the street and out of trouble. ;-) Hey!..I resemble that remark ;). Regarding the op's questionif you asked Klaus, and others here, they'd probably say that, while the Touch's outputs are quite good, the basic philosophy is to try to make

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2011-12-31 Thread garym
TheOctavist;680645 Wrote: digital here! It's fun, and free. Why not? ...and legal. So I don't disagree. -- garym Location 1: VB Appliance 6TB (1.10) LMS 7.7.1 Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) Location 2: VB Appliance 3TB (2.0) LMS 7.7.1 Touch

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2011-12-31 Thread guidof
audiomuze;680640 Wrote: ^^^ meant Touch. So, given you're effectively using an external DAC, and the Touch is already pretty good on the digital side,what could all these tweaks possibly achieve? Mo' better . . . Guido F. -- guidof MUSIC ROOM: Marantz TT 15S1 Turntable, Virtuoso Wood

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2011-12-31 Thread audiomuze
guidof;680652 Wrote: Mo' better . . .where you get your weed? -- audiomuze *'Linux finally gets a great audio tagger' (http://www.ubuntugeek.com/linux-finally-gets-a-great-audio-tagger.html): 'puddletag' (http://puddletag.sourceforge.net/)*

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2011-12-31 Thread guidof
audiomuze;680659 Wrote: where you get your weed? The best kind, too. It's legal. (See garym's post). Guido F. -- guidof MUSIC ROOM: Marantz TT 15S1 Turntable, Virtuoso Wood Cartridge-Conrad Johnson Motif preamp Oppo BDP-83 Universal Player-Cambridge Azur 840C DAC Vortexbox Appliance-WiFi

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2011-12-31 Thread magiccarpetride
rgro;680558 Wrote: Had a bit of time this evening and went all the way back to the original TT 3.0 settings and had a good listen. At least with my equipment and ears, there's a fair difference between those original TT 3.0 settings and SBGK's numbers. While the original TT 3.0 sound

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2011-12-31 Thread Stratmangler
magiccarpetride;680675 Wrote: I agree with you, but cannot attribute it only to SBGK's mods, l because I've applied them at the same time I've applied my Shunyata power cable and the Shakti stones. The difference in musicality is staggering. I guess it's time to switch back to vanilla

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2011-12-31 Thread SBGK
I am trying these settings, so far I like them better than all others I have tried. based on SBT base 45/50 with watchdog at 0 = more detail, air. irq45, 42, 17, 123 and 102 set to priority 41. impression is less dark than sbt base, but pretty much same bass, exquisite mid and no sibilance.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2011-12-31 Thread cfraser
Jacky;680570 Wrote: Exactly it is the left channel: advice will obey and Buffer will worth increase. What have you set around to avoid this imbalance there? Ill try with 4000 us. Jacky Jacky: I don't have a solution yet. To be honest, mostly I've been listening around the burr I hear in

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2011-12-31 Thread audiomuze
f'n hilarious, this thread gives new meaning to audiophoolia. -- audiomuze *'Linux finally gets a great audio tagger' (http://www.ubuntugeek.com/linux-finally-gets-a-great-audio-tagger.html): 'puddletag' (http://puddletag.sourceforge.net/)*

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2011-12-31 Thread SBGK
audiomuze;680685 Wrote: f'n hilarious, this thread gives new meaning to audiophoolia. please enlighten us about the new meaning, is there a cure ? do you have a point to make ? -- SBGK SBGK's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2011-12-31 Thread cfraser
It's why we have a separate sub-forum. Audio-heathens (the opposite of audiofools?) should wear full armour when entering. :) FWIW, I actually DO find this thread entertaining, much more so lately too. However, I do think it would be a little less rude if these tt config discussions had their

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2011-12-31 Thread rgro
SBGK;680678 Wrote: I am trying these settings, so far I like them better than all others I have tried. based on SBT base 45/50 with watchdog at 0 = more detail, air. irq45, 42, 17, 123 and 102 set to priority 41. impression is less dark than sbt base, but pretty much same bass, exquisite mid

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2011-12-31 Thread SBGK
rgro;680697 Wrote: Initial impressions: As to audimuze's comment: Klaus' TT mods are for real. Don't poo-poo this until you've actually tried implementing them in full. SBGK is, as another poster put it, standing on Klaus' shoulders and it wouild appear that he's onto something that'll

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2011-12-31 Thread cfraser
I have no doubt people are hearing what they're hearing. One way or another I've managed to duplicate just about every sonic problem people have mentioned. Except for the crackling people used to mention a long time ago. Other people have heard it here too. Usually people are too polite to

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2011-12-31 Thread Turnandcough
Hello fellow tweakers. I have been following this thread since the beginning but have never been able to try any of the mods as the screen on my Bolder modded Touch was disabled (permanently!) when I snapped the flat cable connector. Anyhow I finally got around to buying another Touch and

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2011-12-31 Thread SBGK
updated p83 post 827 mods as irq42 set to 41 was taking some of the top end away, so will now default to 40. -- SBGK SBGK's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=52003 View this thread:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2011-12-31 Thread cfraser
^ I have listened to the original version of that mod for a very short time. I did not hear *any* of the artifacts I was hearing last night. It sounds very nice, but perhaps a little too full and forward, and is lacking some of the high end detail. [SBT(coax)-BDA-1-BP-26-4B-SST2-Maggie 1.6] --

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2011-12-31 Thread SBGK
cfraser;680727 Wrote: ^ I have listened to the original version of that mod for a very short time. I did not hear *any* of the artifacts I was hearing last night. It sounds very nice, but perhaps a little too full and forward, and is lacking some of the high end detail.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2011-12-31 Thread guidof
SBGK;680723 Wrote: updated p83 post 827 mods as irq42 set to 41 was taking some of the top end away, so will now default to 40. I tried these values, briefly. The first impression is that the presentation was a bit muffled. It seems that so far the best settings for me are SBGK's original

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2011-12-31 Thread SBGK
guidof;680737 Wrote: I tried these values, briefly. The first impression is that the presentation was a bit muffled. It seems that so far the best settings for me are SBGK's original p.62 (prior to editing), AKA Guido F's. The more I listen with those settings, the more I marvel at

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2011-12-31 Thread rgro
guidof;680737 Wrote: I tried these values, briefly. The first impression is that the presentation was a bit muffled. It seems that so far the best settings for me are SBGK's original p.62 (prior to editing), AKA Guido F's. The more I listen with those settings, the more I marvel at

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2011-12-31 Thread TheOctavist
SBGK;680738 Wrote: I am going to try your settings. cheers hmm, too bright for me. I am going to settle on SBT base settings, hard to beat for sheer musicality and emotional involvement with the music. can you list the script for those too?? like you did on p82 or whatever so you like the

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2011-12-31 Thread Turnandcough
Maybe it's the vino or maybe I need to call it a day but all this editing is confusing me. I thought I had found the perfect balance this afternoon but now after all these changes I can't remember where I was, what I changed or if I'm happier now or before I went and fiddled with it. Wouldn't it

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2011-12-31 Thread audiomuze
SBGK;680688 Wrote: please enlighten us about the new meaning, is there a cure ? do you have a point to make ? It's just fascinating that many participants in this thread would appear to have golden ears and a sufficiently commanding grasp of 'audiophile' terminology to become writers for

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2011-12-31 Thread rgro
Turnandcough;680749 Wrote: Maybe it's the vino or maybe I need to call it a day but all this editing is confusing me. I thought I had found the perfect balance this afternoon but now after all these changes I can't remember where I was, what I changed or if I'm happier now or before I went

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2011-12-31 Thread Stilly77
SBGK;680723 Wrote: updated p83 post 827 mods as irq42 set to 41 was taking some of the top end away, so will now default to 40. ??? post 827 is gone SBGK;680733 Wrote: yup, too much of a good thing, have backed it off by only changing irq17 to 41. have updated settings then you posted

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2011-12-31 Thread rgro
Stilly77;680753 Wrote: ??? post 827 is gone then you posted this ??? so what is it? are you gulpin' down old grandpa's cough medicine tonite? :) More likely some fine single maltafter all, it's now a few hours into 2012 where he lives! -- rgro Rg System information

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2011-12-31 Thread Stilly77
rgro;680755 Wrote: More likely some fine single maltafter all, it's now a few hours into 2012 where he lives! oh yeah, I forget audiofiles only drink fine liquor -- Stilly77 WHS 2011 server with LMS 7.7.1 ASUS RT-N16 router (Tomato) AP ASUS RT-N12 wireless bridge 15ft Cat 6

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2011-12-31 Thread guidof
rgro;680743 Wrote: Hah...just goes to show you.. I experienced the exact opposite. I really liked the p.83 (which now seems to have disappeared!) sound. Rick: Given that your tastes in music are so similar to mine and yet the resulting listening experiences are so different, I'd say that

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2011-12-31 Thread guidof
SBGK;680738 Wrote: I am going to try your settings. cheers hmm, too bright for me. I am going to settle on SBT base settings, hard to beat for sheer musicality and emotional involvement with the music. SBGK: These actually were -your- settings at one point (let's give credit where credit

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2011-12-31 Thread Stilly77
The sbgk from p62 have been there a few days. They are the ones I have been using since then and I'm quite satisfied with them. However, I agree with the recent comments about the unnecessary confusion. The changes have been fast and furious. It would really help to know what these adjustments

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Optical (toslink) connection

2011-12-31 Thread Stilly77
I tried a Blue Jeans 3 foot plastic optical cable and came up thoroughly unimpressed. Both connectors were sloppy fitting. Then I tried one of those Amazon Cables to Go 3ft glass cable. Great snug fitting connectors and the sound was a big improvement over the BJ cable. I am usually highly

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2011-12-31 Thread rgro
guidof;680757 Wrote: Given that your tastes in music are so similar to mine and yet the resulting listening experiences are so different, I'd say that what we have learned from soundcheck's and SBGK's work is that one size fits all is definitely *not* the case when it comes to SW mods. I

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2011-12-31 Thread Stilly77
audiomuze;680748 Wrote: It's just fascinating that many participants in this thread would appear to have golden ears and a sufficiently commanding grasp of 'audiophile' terminology to become writers for any number of so called hi-fi publications. Anyone wishing to brush up on audio