seanadams;215668 Wrote:
> Actually, in all likelihood (and I hate saying this because people tend
> to interpret "could be" as "will be") Transporter could be made to play
> DSD natively. It has a DSD-capable DAC, and there is programmable logic
> interfacing the CPU to the DAC, and it can produc
agentsmith;221707 Wrote:
> Adam I notice that you have a Pioneer 747 which I assume is quite a few
> years old. I have the same model which thanks to Squeezebox has rarely
> been used. But despite that the unit has been quite unreliable,
> required out of warranty repair for failure to play dis
adamslim;215512 Wrote:
> Crikey, that's a lot of dough for a small board! Maybe I have finally
> found out a use for my Pioneer 747, as yet unused...
>
> Anyway, can I presume that ripping SACDs with this would:
> - have some dodgy conversion that may introduce errors, even if it is
> at high b
IN this review (http://stereophile.com/hirezplayers/507oppo/index1.html)
of the $149 DV-970HD, the reviewer describes hooking the universal
player to his TP -
"The DV-970HD was connected to the Slim Devices Transporter with
Stereovox XV2 75-ohm coaxial cable. Using the Transporter to convert
the
I don't think it's too difficult to convert between PCM and DSD or Vice
versa. If I'm not mistaken, all the so called "Single Bit" CD DAC's
are performing a version of DSD. But as Pat has said, it seems a bit
pointless given the low amount of SACD source material available. And
the handful of S
If you look at this page for Korg's MR-1000 DSD recorder, at the bottom
they talk about the DSF file format which supports DSD. And,
interestingly enough, they state that some Sony VAIO computers support
the DSF format. With a recorder such as the MR-1000 (and it's not the
only one), it seems li
Skunk wrote:
> Re: Transporter's DAC, perhaps one way to get DSD into it would be the
> addition of an HDMI input, fed by a universal player. Food for thought
> anyway :-)
It might, but why bother?
Not why think, civil discussions about audiophile stuff is fun.
But I don't see any point in DSD.
seanadams;215635 Wrote:
> No, HDCD and DVD-A are both PCM. DSD, however, is a completely different
> way to represent amplitudes. Instead of saying "make a step this high",
> DSD says "turn the output on now, now, now, now, not now, not now, now
> now, etc."
Thanks for the explanation, and nice
Timothy Stockman;215639 Wrote:
>
> It would be interesting to be able to extract the audio from a SACD in
> some hi-res form that the Transporter could understand. If somehow one
> could get the raw DSD data onto the hard drive, how would one use it?
> But converting to 24/96 would likely reta
Timothy Stockman wrote:
> SACD players with DSD->PCM architecture are definitely out there. In
> the audiophile community, there are many that share your thoughts
> regarding whether this defeats the purpose of DSD.
And the purpose of DSD was to maximize money that Sony gets, while
cutting Phil
seanadams;215635 Wrote:
> Speaking DSD to the DAC is the whole point of it. Now, that alone does
> not rule out the possibility that there is some player out there which
> converts DSD to PCM for some reason, but it seems largely to defeat the
> purpose of using DSD in the first place (which is a
Skunk;215629 Wrote:
> They may be the exception, but some players do seem to have a high
> resolution DSD>I2S stream coming from logic that probably decodes DVD-A
> and HDCD as well. [...] Wouldn't DVD-A be another fundamentally
> different stream, which has to be turned into something a DAC can
seanadams;215551 Wrote:
> SACD players use DAC chips that accept both PCM and DSD inputs.
They may be the exception, but some players do seem to have a high
resolution DSD>I2S stream coming from logic that probably decodes DVD-A
and HDCD as well.
>
> Doesn't make sense to me. DSD and PCM are
Skunk;215528 Wrote:
>
> So assuming you can rip them; In my guestimation the DSD>PCM conversion
> shouldn't be too different from what would go on inside some SACD
> players that have a standard DAC that accepts a PCM signal. The
> conversion is going to be made at some point regardless.
SACD
DCtoDaylight;215537 Wrote:
> The legality depends on where you live. Here in Canada, it's perfectly
> legal ...
Lucky guy. Under the DMCA, it is not clear we can legally have this
conversation about getting around the DRM.
With the commercial failure of SACD, it doesn't matter anyway.
And no m
Skunk;215528 Wrote:
>
> If the copy protection is broken, e.g. having it on the hard drive, it
> becomes illegal though. The device in question is meant for external
> DACs only.
Small caveat: The legality depends on where you live. Here in Canada,
it's perfectly legal to copy a disc you own,
Yes, at diyaudio.com is a thread already doing a PCM digital out for
SACD.
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=48393
I read thru it a while ago. When i remember right they only use an
exploid. The DAC in this special player converts itself the DSD data to
PCM and they just grab
adamslim;215512 Wrote:
>
> Anyway, can I presume that ripping SACDs with this would:
> - have some dodgy conversion that may introduce errors, even if it is
> at high bit depth
I noticed this in the legal section:
"Furthermore, we fully implement the Serial Copy Management System and
flag the d
adamslim wrote:
> Anyway, can I presume that ripping SACDs with this would:
> - have some dodgy conversion that may introduce errors, even if it is
> at high bit depth
> - be a real PITA to actually do - something about using the CD CUE file
> over the SACD extraction, or searching for gaps
I'd ex
Crikey, that's a lot of dough for a small board! Maybe I have finally
found out a use for my Pioneer 747, as yet unused...
Anyway, can I presume that ripping SACDs with this would:
- have some dodgy conversion that may introduce errors, even if it is
at high bit depth
- be a real PITA to actuall
Timothy Stockman;215492 Wrote:
> Yes, but at least its hi-res PCM. Would the Transporter know what to do
> with a DSD file, anyway?
Where would you get a DSD file?
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seanadams;215491 Wrote:
> You realize it's converting the signal to PCM over s/pdif, right? It's
> not a DSD output.
Yes, but at least its hi-res PCM. Would the Transporter know what to
do with a DSD file, anyway?
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Timothy Stockman
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You realize it's converting the signal to PCM over s/pdif, right? It's
not a DSD output.
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Very nice looking device. One could record the digital output of this
device through a digital input sound card. Not as easy as ripping a
CD, but at least doable.
Rather expensive. I'm sure they wan to recoupe the costs of the custom
programmed chip. But, even more, I think they need the mone
http://audiopraise.com/vanity/overview.php
Does anyone know about this product? The claim is that SACD can be
outputted digitally. I am considering a Transporter but I would like
to feed it SACD. Understand, I am a technical idiot, so please try to
explain what you think in common language! T
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