Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Break-in period for Transporter?

2009-05-19 Thread dennis55
dekaliber,interesting reading about your Transporter exploits. to better the performance of the Transporter you'd better have pretty deep pockets!. i have had both of Linn's DS units sitting in front of me = the Akurate and Klimax models.check out the list price for both and re-check the

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Break-in period for Transporter?

2009-05-19 Thread Hwirt
I have a comment on the noise floor of the SB3, see next post. -- Hwirt Hwirt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30039 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=63394

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Break-in period for Transporter?

2009-05-19 Thread Hwirt
A comment on the Squeezebox SB3 signal to noise ratio; I’ve been using the SB3 fed directly into a McIntosh 352 amp and it sounds really good. One observation that I made was that the power meters on the amplifier were not at zero when powered on. See below: [image:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Break-in period for Transporter?

2009-05-19 Thread Phil Leigh
Hwirt;424777 Wrote: A comment on the Squeezebox SB3 signal to noise ratio; I#8217;ve been using the SB3 fed directly into a McIntosh 352 amp and it sounds really good. One observation that I made was that the power meters on the amplifier were not at zero when powered on. See below:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Break-in period for Transporter?

2009-05-19 Thread Hwirt
Phil, Tried adjusting the brightness and observed no change, like I said the noise is very low level and it's getting through the amp to the speakers but is only noticeable if your ear is an inch or so from the HF driver. Thanks for the power supply info won't waste time trying the swap out.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Break-in period for Transporter?

2009-05-19 Thread darrenyeats
Hwirt;424794 Wrote: Phil, Tried adjusting the brightness and observed no change, like I said the noise is very low level and it's getting through the amp to the speakers but is only noticeable if your ear is an inch or so from the HF driver. Thanks for the power supply info won't

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Break-in period for Transporter?

2009-05-19 Thread Hwirt
dekaliber;424233 Wrote: Thanks for the replies, all. After a weekend that involved a good bit of listening, I'm really not sure I can pick out a real difference in sound quality between the two players. Dekaliber, Thanks for the detailed and honest report, I'm considering buying the

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Break-in period for Transporter?

2009-05-19 Thread dekaliber
dennis55;424757 Wrote: p.s.Note that this is at a setting 30 dB above my usual listening volume .what are you trying to prove? Don't get me wrong, I'm withholding final judgment until I have a chance to do an honest blind A/B test. Just sharing my impressions thus far and trying to let

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Break-in period for Transporter?

2009-05-18 Thread darrenyeats
dekaliber;424233 Wrote: Thanks for the replies, all. After a weekend that involved a good bit of listening, I'm really not sure I can pick out a real difference in sound quality between the two players. A lot of my initial impressions before level matching them were extremely biased by

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Break-in period for Transporter?

2009-05-18 Thread mswlogo
Break in time == about the time it takes to boot :) -- mswlogo XP Cat5 Transporter/DuetController SPDIF Meridian G68 DSP6000, DSP5500HC, DSP5000 XP Cat5 SB3 SPDIF Meridian DSP5000 XP Cat5 DuetReceiver SPDIF Meridian G91 DSP5000 'My Transporter Setup'

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Break-in period for Transporter?

2009-05-17 Thread Andy8421
In the days of steam, I used to be a designer of electronic test equipment. In those days, all test sets we built were 'burnt in' for a couple of days at elevated temperatures prior to shipping. From what I recall, this was not aimed to improve specification, but to speed up the onset of infant

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Break-in period for Transporter?

2009-05-17 Thread dekaliber
Thanks for the replies, all. After a weekend that involved a good bit of listening, I'm really not sure I can pick out a real difference in sound quality between the two players. A lot of my initial impressions before level matching them were extremely biased by loudness. As it turns out, the

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Break-in period for Transporter?

2009-05-16 Thread slimkid
Well, exactly my feeling when I got an external DAC to 'improve' the sound of SB3. All those internet ravings and no difference that I could hear. Gave it some time, hoping that somewhere somehow sometimes I'll hear the difference. Never happened, so I sold the DAC, and the hit I took on price is

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Break-in period for Transporter?

2009-05-16 Thread dekaliber
I tested the noise floor of the Squeezebox3, the SB3 + Channel Islands VDA-2 DAC, and the Transporter. Nothing fancy. I just stopped the music, cranked it up 30 dB from the level I usually use to listen and put my ear to the tweeter. SB3 had a very noticeable hum. Actually, it was almost like

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Break-in period for Transporter?

2009-05-16 Thread Mnyb
what kind of music and is it a good recording, sad fact xx recording quality on most music these days has gone tits up. So try it out with something well recorded with clean human voices and acoustical instruments etc. The production values even on some music that I realy like is such that it's

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Break-in period for Transporter?

2009-05-16 Thread Mnyb
Well noise is not that simple, equipment is speced with a relative value SN ratio, I've never seen an absolute measurement of noise. So how loud the noise will be in the speaker end is also dependent on how loud the source is and how the gain structure overall looks like. For example I would

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Break-in period for Transporter?

2009-05-16 Thread peejay
Electronic components for the Transporter I'm sure were chosen with quality in mind. However, new components work best, and in fact with age and use electronic components degrade and will eventually fall outside their stated tolerances in terms of performance, which is likely to affect fidelity,

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Break-in period for Transporter?

2009-05-16 Thread cliveb
I too am firmly in the camp that doesn't believe in break-in of solid state electronics. So don't expect the TP to change. (I did hear a difference in my TP's sound over the first few days, but firmly believe it was me breaking in, not the TP :-). There are many possible explanations for what

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Break-in period for Transporter?

2009-05-16 Thread cliveb
dekaliber;423727 Wrote: SB3+CI DAC was dead silent! I almost wondered if it was actually connected because it was eerie quiet, even at that volume. Speculation: is it possible that the CI DAC detects digital silence and mutes its output? -- cliveb Transporter - ATC SCM100A