Eric Carroll;174361 Wrote:
In your page you reference the calculator spreadsheet, but I think that
was a forum posting attachment, wasn't it? Its not in linked in the
wiki page.
The spreadsheet is an attachment to the wiki, called atten_calc.xls.
The attachments are listed at the top left,
Skunk;174363 Wrote:
Surely they meant 10K ohms?QUOTE]
there's a lesson here, the web site information is completely wrong, i
downloaded the manual and it gives the impedance as 11Kohms
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Thanks!
So what more do we need on the wiki?
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Thanks for the article, great info. Are there any considerations that
need to be given to the power amps rated input impedance vs the
Transporters?
for instance I am considering an amp. has an input impedance of 10 ohms
(so says the spec. sheet) but it doesn't give the input sensitivity...
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cliveb;172274 Wrote:
Comments and corrections gratefully received.
Cliveb,
In your page you reference the calculator spreadsheet, but I think that
was a forum posting attachment, wasn't it? Its not in linked in the wiki
page. If I can find the forum posting I will edit in the link to it,
Limping_Pylon;174321 Wrote:
for instance I am considering an amp. has an input impedance of 10 ohms
(so says the spec. sheet) but it doesn't give the input sensitivity...
Surely they meant 10K ohms?
I've yet to see anyone mention this California based attenuator
manufacturer:
Skunk;174363 Wrote:
They're pretty expensive if you have them make a box and put a knob on
it though.
I added it to the list but wow, they took my breath away on the cost of
the ganged pot in a box.
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SB3-Rotel
Eric Carroll;174365 Wrote:
I added it to the list but wow, they took my breath away on the cost of
the ganged pot in a box. And reading their web site I still haven't
figured out how much attenuation you can get... its gotta be there
somewhere.
In their defense, it's all open source:
Skunk;174369 Wrote:
In their defense, it's all open source:
http://www.goldpt.com/diy.html
Ya I found their attenuation list here:
http://www.goldpt.com/info.html
Nice looking stepped pot box, stunning price.
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Transporter-Bryston 3B SST-Paradigm Reference Studio 60 v.4
Eric Carroll;172077 Wrote:
Ya, I was thinking about adding a Transporter section at the bottom.
Mark, is that ok?
Hi Eric:
I saw how you did this - good job. There's a clear link to follow for
Transporter users and it doesn't clutter up the page mostly used by
Squeezebox users. Nice!
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Eric Carroll;171975 Wrote:
Its a Wiki! Edit away!
The only question I have is if it belongs inline in the page I wrote or
if you should create two new pages for the topics and link them in on a
phrase. I am thinking the latter as its a long page already.
OK, thanks. I sort of understand
Eric Carroll;171426 Wrote:
I have written a new Wiki page: ConnectToPowerAmp
http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.cgi?ConnectToPowerAmp
I feel that I have a couple of things to contribute:
1. Discussion of adding DIY passive attenuation - I can supply an Excel
spreadsheet to help choosing
I hope this isn't off topic, but something I noticed on the Rothwell
site is a claimed 10db SNR improvement by using the balanced
attenuators between a preamp and amp*. Wouldn't that be impossible if
the preamp had an analog volume control?
Maybe the reason it seems on-topic is because of the
Skunk;171911 Wrote:
I hope this isn't off topic, but something I noticed on the Rothwell
site is a claimed 10db SNR improvement by using the balanced
attenuators between a preamp and amp*.
*Although the attenuators can be used on the inputs of the pre-amp in
exactly the same way as they
cliveb;171822 Wrote:
How would you like me to go about this: edit the wiki directly, or send
you my suggested text?
Clive,
Its a Wiki! Edit away!
Eric
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ceejay;171697 Wrote:
Well the first page is the BeginnersGuide and it is meant to be just the
headlines with shortcuts to the pages with more info. The
BeginnersGuideOverview goes into more detail and is intended to be
readable in its own right.
I did start to draft a paragraph to go in
Great idea and post. I am currently checking out new power amps and
speaker combinations so you timing is good.
My Transporter has the three built in attenuation levels on the
unbalanced outputs, can you add some information on what the output
levels would be at each of the settings?
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Thanks for the question, I will add the answer to ConnectoToPowerAmp
page.
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Hi Eric.
If you read the references, in order, they all lead up to making the
last one seem outdated (it's almost 2yo). E.g. the volume control in
the DAC *is* used now, which is precisely the point of the more recent
link directly above it.
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Eric Carroll;171975 Wrote:
I will probably create a ConnectToPreAmp page too to discuss that issue
and link it in to the beginner's page (depending on what MarkL does per
abive).
This would mesh perfectly if you turned analog point 10 into a big
hyperlink like I did with points 8 and 9.
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Skunk;172059 Wrote:
Hi Eric.
If you read the references, in order, they all lead up to making the
last one seem outdated (it's almost 2yo). E.g. the volume control in
the DAC *is* used now, which is precisely the point of the more recent
link directly above it.
Sorry, maybe its just the
Mark
nice work... I think the only point I'd want to debate is your
assumption that we don't need to cover the Transporter as their owners
are unlikely to be beginners: not beginners in audio, almost certainly,
but could easily be complete novices in slimserver or computer based
audio.
Ceejay
Ya, I was thinking about adding a Transporter section at the bottom.
Mark, is that ok?
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Skunk;172059 Wrote:
Hi Eric.
If you read the references, in order, they all lead up to making the
last one seem outdated (it's almost 2yo). E.g. the volume control in
the DAC *is* used now, which is precisely the point of the more recent
link directly above it.
Are you sure about that?
Eric Carroll;172077 Wrote:
Ya, I was thinking about adding a Transporter section at the bottom.
Mark, is that ok?
Absolutely, as you indicated, it's a wiki.
I just didn't want to include it in the list with everything else. It
has so many extra connections that would have to be explained:
Just thought I'd congratulate you for your community service.
cheers,
Michael
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Eric Carroll;172079 Wrote:
Are you sure about that?
My understanding is that PREAMP volume control is implemented in the
DAC, but VOLUME control is implemented in the CPU.
Yeah I shouldn't have used that example. The more contradictory thing
in the old post is the the statement 'you don't
One minor point - somewhere in there was a link to a post by Sean Adams
where he states that each level on the 100 point volume scale is a dB.
I think it's .5 dB actually, and IIRC he corrects himself later in that
thread.
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Skunk;172112 Wrote:
Yeah I shouldn't have used that example. The more contradictory thing in
the old post is the the statement 'you don't lose any resolution',
whereas that's corrected in the long post.
I'm sure nobody but me will notice :-) Carry on.
Thank you!
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opaqueice;172113 Wrote:
One minor point - somewhere in there was a link to a post by Sean Adams
where he states that each level on the 100 point volume scale is a dB.
I think it's .5 dB actually, and IIRC he corrects himself later in that
thread.
ooh, nice catch! I rea somewhere and thus
totoro;172101 Wrote:
Just thought I'd congratulate you for your community service.
cheers,
Michael
I am sure I speak for MarkL (and I know I speak for myself) when I say
thank you! Not like we get more SB3s or anything ;-) Since this is my
first wiki creation (such as it is) postive
Eric Carroll;172179 Wrote:
I am sure I speak for MarkL (and I know I speak for myself) when I say
thank you! Not like we get more SB3s or anything ;-) Since this is my
first wiki creation (such as it is) postive feedback is definately
appreciated.
Yes, thanks totoro. I didn't respond
Eric Carroll;172079 Wrote:
Are you sure about that?
My understanding is that PREAMP volume control is implemented in the
DAC, but VOLUME control is implemented in the CPU.
That is true, but they are still both the same kind of digital
function. Although the preamp control is done in the
Mark Lanctot;172195 Wrote:
Yes, thanks totoro. I didn't respond because I wasn't sure who you were
addressing - Eric got this thread started and ceejay gave a good idea.
Sorry. I meant to include everyone involved, with an extra bump to the
OP for initiative :).
cheers,
Michael
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totoro
Good job, something like this was needed. Unfortunately they will still
ask how to hook up and use integrated amps/receivers, especially the
volume control.
I would also point out that the opening line reads like a poor
translation:
The Transporter and Squeezebox make a novel configuration
There is a wiki page AvReceivers from MarkL there
http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.cgi?AVReceivers
I don't see it linked in anywhere that I can find yet.
Thanks for the correction, its a first draft. Change made.
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Eric Carroll
I have the SB going into an Adcom gtp600 preamp tied to a 6 zone
amplifier that I am able to get all the volume I desire with, but my
problem lies in that I took an RCA interconnect to my downstairs Denon
A/V receiver to play SB in basement and at full volume I can't get the
loudness I am
Eric Carroll;171438 Wrote:
There is a wiki page AvReceivers from MarkL there
http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.cgi?AVReceivers
I don't see it linked in anywhere that I can find yet.
That was me. I'm not quite sure where to link it from - I didn't find
an appropriate place in the Beginner's
Well the first page is the BeginnersGuide and it is meant to be just the
headlines with shortcuts to the pages with more info. The
BeginnersGuideOverview goes into more detail and is intended to be
readable in its own right.
I did start to draft a paragraph to go in the Overview page but
ceejay;171697 Wrote:
Anyone feeling bold?
Sounds like a nice Friday morning project - I'll give it a go if
everyone's OK with this.
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