I was asked questions and I answered them with MY opinion. I gave links
to what a SB2 owner had to say about it.
I am not dissing the SB2. I have said before and I will say again the I
feel Sean Adams and company have produced an incredible product for the
price. It has changed the way I listen t
Radish Wrote:
> Nah, that's riovolution :)
Very true ... ;)
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Fifer Wrote:
> Like a pop-up stating "Abandon hope, all ye who enter here" when you
> click on the 'Audiophile' forum?
Perfect!
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> Like a pop-up stating "Abandon hope, all ye who enter here" when you
> click on the 'Audiophile' forum?
Nah, that's riovolution :)
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> There needs to be a big disclaimer on audiophile talk
Like a pop-up stating "Abandon hope, all ye who enter here" when you
click on the 'Audiophile' forum?
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Patrick Dixon Wrote:
> It seems to me that anyone bringing SBs to a wider market is only
> benefiting Slim Devices and their products. Every SB sold and modified
> is, after all, a SB sold by Slim Devices.
>
> Good though the SB2 is (and it is good), the 'audiophile' market will
> always demand
Patrick Dixon Wrote:
> I personally enjoy seeing and reading about the wacky ways people
> rehouse and customise their SBs.
I'm still waiting for the SB with valve output stages - put it in a
case like this
http://www.soundlabsgroup.com.au/shanling/shanling_scd_t200c.htm and
then we're talking :
It seems to me that anyone bringing SBs to a wider market is only
benefiting Slim Devices and their products. Every SB sold and modified
is, after all, a SB sold by Slim Devices.
Good though the SB2 is (and it is good), the 'audiophile' market will
always demand something better. It's a small a
Wayne is a great guy from my experience. He's passionate about audio and
loves his Squeezebox.
I am never going to argue with anyone about what they can or can't
hear. I've never heard a stereo system that could reproduce the sound
of, for example, a tuning fork two inches from my ear. It is 100%
Davey Wrote:
> Well, you could have fooled me. :)
>
> Am I the only one that thinks it's pretty slimy for Wayne to pop into
> Sean's forum and tout his "upgrades?"
>
> Sean, maybe you and Wayne have talked privately about this and have an
> understandingif not I admire your restraint. Or
Wayne1 Wrote:
> Max,
>
> I am in NO WAY dissing the SB2.
>
>
Well, you could have fooled me. :)
Am I the only one that thinks it's pretty slimy for Wayne to pop into
Sean's forum and tout his "upgrades?"
Sean, maybe you and Wayne have talked privately about this and have an
understanding.
Rupert,
We had a few folks stop by for the listening session. There were some
fairly obvious differences between the stock power supply and the one I
build. There were also audible differences between the stock and modded
SB2 using digital out to a modded Panny SA-XR70.
I felt the best sound was
Hi Wayne, and others who might have been there. Anything interesting to
report from the gathering that was to take place during RMAF, and which
is described more fully below?
Wayne1 Wrote:
> I am hosting a get together next Saturday evening at a local
> "audiophile's" house. This is in conjunc
Wayne1,Thank you Wayne1. I emailed my friend and he should contact you. I wish I could attend too... Please report us the findings. Good luck!Best,HiroyukiOn Sep 30, 2005, at 1:44 PM, Wayne1 wrote:Hiroyuki, The gathering is still on. I am not sure about the PM system here. I can be reached a
Hiroyuki,
The gathering is still on.
I am not sure about the PM system here.
I can be reached at boldercable (at) comcast (dot) net
It will start about 6 pm tomorrow night.
I will also be at the Great Divide Lounge for the meet and great this
afternoon at RMAF. Just look around for the Audio
Wayne1,
Are you still hosting the gathering? I know somebody who wants to
attend the event but your PM doesn't seem to work. Thank you.
Best,
Hiroyuki
On Sep 26, 2005, at 2:54 PM, Wayne1 wrote:
seanadams Wrote:
Here are my own measurements. I still disagree with the idea that the
DAC'
topster Wrote:
> Hi,
>
> One thing that hasn't been mentioned (maybe it has and I missed it,
> but...) is whether the noise generated from the SMPS could be polluting
> the power lines for OTHER components.
>
> It might be interesting to see if there is still an audible difference
> in changing
topster,
The first time I compared the switching PS to a linear, both were
plugged into a BPT balanced power conditioner. The BPT 4 has multiple
transformers inside to isolate each source component. The amps were
plugged into a separate BPT conditioner.
I heard a difference between the switcher
Hi,
One thing that hasn't been mentioned (maybe it has and I missed it,
but...) is whether the noise generated from the SMPS could be polluting
the power lines for OTHER components.
It might be interesting to see if there is still an audible difference
in changing power supplies if the SMPS is f
seanadams Wrote:
> Here are my own measurements. I still disagree with the idea that the
> DAC's performance can be audibly improved by changing the external
> supply.
>
> http://www.seanadams.com/smps_vs_linear/
>
> Remember - "ground" is where carrots and potatoes grow. :)
I am hosting a ge
Here are my own measurements. I still disagree with the idea that the
DAC's performance can be audibly improved by changing the external
supply.
http://www.seanadams.com/smps_vs_linear/
Remember - "ground" is where carrots and potatoes grow. :)
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The SB2 is my favorite toy too! I'm completely pleased with my
purchase, and would recommend SB2 to anyone that has a network and a
stereo. I think the SMPS included with SB2 is a good choice, adds
value, works well. A good linear supply would add too much too the
price. For those that want to
Max,
I am in NO WAY dissing the SB2.
I am very impressed with what Slim Devices has come up with.
I CAN hear a difference between the stock switcher and a linear supply.
I decided to take a look at the power lines with my 'scope yesterday to
see if I could see a difference that could explain wh
Please make sure that some of this conversation is mirrored on
AudioCircle! I hate to see my favourite toy dissed. ;-)
Max
seanadams Wrote:
> What you're measuring is noise coupled onto your probe from the digital
> side (which _will_ be quieter with a linear supply).
>
> If you measure righ
Wayne1 Wrote:
> I posted the photos on AudioCircle. Most of the folks there are not as
> technically minded as the people here.
>
> The 'scope is a Tektronics 475. The probe is a TEK P6109
>
> The settings were .5 volts per division and the time base was .5 u
> sec.
>
> The points measured wer
Wayne1 wrote:
I posted the photos on AudioCircle. Most of the folks there are not as
technically minded as the people here.
Ah, you mean they're audiophiles? ;)
R.
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I posted the photos on AudioCircle. Most of the folks there are not as
technically minded as the people here.
The 'scope is a Tektronics 475. The probe is a TEK P6109
The settings were .5 volts per division and the time base was .5 u
sec.
The points measured were across C61. The photos were of
seanadams Wrote:
> Most of all, where was the scope's ground lead
Absolutely, and how _long_ is the ground lead, how are signal and
ground attached to the probe, the type of probe, including loading,
etc., the type of scope and front end amp.
Ringing (which you see in the photo) can appear to b
Without time-base and amplitude-range settings for the scope, this tells
us very little. I assume (and hope) that the settings were the same for
both pictures.
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Music Machine Wrote:
> Wayne of Boulder posted pics of the PS output over on audiocircle. The
> pics speak for themselves.
>
> http://www.audiocircle.com/circles/viewtopic.php?t=21808&sid=ba4c86cccaa383a636eb041ee106b9f7
>
> Regards,
> Music Machine
When I post measurements, I usually include
Yes, time and amplitude are missing. Apparently it's "taken from the 5
volt line feeding the DAC."
Would probably be difficult or impossible to see any output variance
with a music signal. Since when do audiophiles care about that. ;)
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