Can someone please remind me of the advantages of ethanol in fuel?
It strikes me that setting up competitive tension between the
world's fuel supply and the world's food supply seems like a bad
idea, but maybe the advantages outweigh the costs...?
- mark
On 12/05/2008, at 3:55 PM, Don Ingram w
I think the argument went something like:
1. Oil is getting more expensive
2. We can make ethanol from corn, etc cheaper than we can refine
gasoline from oil
3. Value of ethanol is higher than raw value of corm for food
4. lets produce lots of Ethanol and make a bigger profit than refining
g
Hi folks
Those of you who are interested in the weather will have experienced the
hassles of decoding the the locations used for trough lines and such in
the otherwise excellent Area Briefings from the met office and Air
Services. For example, today's area 41 briefing includes the following...
Mark Newton wrote:
Can someone please remind me of the advantages of ethanol in fuel?
It strikes me that setting up competitive tension between the
world's fuel supply and the world's food supply seems like a bad
idea, but maybe the advantages outweigh the costs...?
- mark
There is another
I thought you came from AREA 51 Robert .
regards JR
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From: "Robert Hart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "aus >> "Soaring in Australia.""
Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 6:31 PM
Subject: [Aus-soaring] Decodes for area met briefings
> Hi folks
>
> Those of you who are interested i
Of course you could also use LPG.
Robert your C5 using 6Lt/100Km would cost you $9.88 /100Km in Melbourne
with the current fuel price of $1.64Lt
My 4lt Falcon on LPG uses 12.5 Lt/100km costing $7.61/100Km with the
current price of 60.9cLt.
Dennis
http://www.aip.com.au/pricing/retail/diesel/
Here we go again. The most popular single topic on this list in 2007
was about tow cars.
The best way to lower your fuel consumption is to stay in the air.
:-)
Tim
Dennis Hipperson wrote:
Of course you could also use LPG.
Robert your C5 using 6Lt/100Km would cost you $9.88 /100Km in
Melbo
Well done Robert!
I have just loaded your file into Google Earth and it works brilliantly.
Thank You, ROSS
PS: Please note new mobile number. R.
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Ross McLean
mobile: +61 488 270 105
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL
On 12/05/2008, at 6:31 PM, Robert Hart wrote:
Hi folks
Those of you who are interested in the weather will have experienced
the hassles of decoding the the locations used for trough lines and
such in the otherwise excellent Area Briefings from the met office
and Air Services.
The Mac u
> Was that a Big Mac?
JR
> The Mac users among us can get a dashboard widget which does something
> similar with TAFs and METARs:
> http://www.flightlevel.ch/widgets/aviation_weather/
>
>- mark
>
>
>
> I tried an internal
Hi all,
On 5/12/08, Robert Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> Those of you who are interested in the weather will have experienced the
> hassles of decoding the the locations used for trough lines and such in the
> otherwise excellent Area Briefings from the met office and Air Services. For
> e
Alternatively you could go to your local Airservices' map reseller
and buy a copy of the current PCA (Planning Chart Australia) which
shows the locations and the Area Forecast boundaries. You can carry
them around more easily than Robert's Google Earth map too - even on
the cockpit if you want.
Interestingly, I am in Singapore right now (isn't that where our price for
Crude oil is set) and I am looking at a Shell station with unleaded at
SG$2.01 and diesel at SG$1.58. In real terms the unleaded is about AUD$1.66
and diesel is AUD$1.30.
If only I could buy diesel at that price for m
Mike Cleaver wrote:
Alternatively you could go to your local Airservices' map reseller and
buy a copy of the current PCA (Planning Chart Australia) which shows
the locations and the Area Forecast boundaries. You can carry them
around more easily than Robert's Google Earth map too - even on the
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 00:57:03 +1000
From: "stuart smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] RE pawnee engine option
To: "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia."
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Hi
I am updating Alice's instrumentation and will no longer need the above
system.
The Cambridge system still works beautifully and will be available in
July (when Alice goes in for a major refit).
--
Robert Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED]
+61 (0)438 385 533
Don't forget that in NZ on top of the Diesel pump price you must pay a
user tax for Diesel powered cars
as well and display the sticker on the windscreen.
Dennis
Wayne Carter wrote:
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 00:57:03 +1000
From: "stuart smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] RE paw
Can anyone explain why it is more expensive in Australia when it is a
less refined product?
(actually yes I know the answer is taxes but why is the tax not
consistent across all fuels? Why do Diesel users pay more?)
-Cath
On 13/05/2008, at 7:59 AM, Wayne Carter wrote:
Date: Tue, 13 Ma
Cath Conway wrote:
> Can anyone explain why it is more expensive in Australia when
> it is a less refined product?
> (actually yes I know the answer is taxes but why is the tax
> not consistent across all fuels? Why do Diesel users pay more?)
A quick search on Google found the following page:
Perhaps because the Govt has to give an 18.4 cents per litre rebate on all
heavy transport & off road users diesel.
John
---Original Message---
From: Catherine Conway
Date: 13/05/2008 9:08:03 AM
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] dies
One problem with diesel fuel is that it is almost unavoidably messy.
It also has a rather unpleasant smell which can be yours to enjoy for
the rest of your day's activities after a tank fill. Because it is
not very volatile at normal temperatures - if at all - traces of it
remain wherever
Might be getting off the original post a bit but found an interesting
article on Diesel/GAS conversion - seems you can run both.
www.dieselongas.com/technical.htm
Nig
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Given that 30-40% of the difference is due to refining costs - it does
cost more to refine ultra-low sulphur diesel, and the tax is the same,
60-70% of that price difference has got to be be profit. I expect as
demand for diesel increases, the difference will reduce.
We pay about 9% more fo
I underscore Wombat's comments.
Buy a PCA (Planning chart Australia), and all the Met locations are there. Also
the area forecast boundaries are shown. PCA's are cheap and available online
from Airservices Australia.
Note, the planning charts are updated twice a year (June and November), so use
Not so sure modern Diesel is "less refined". The currently available
fuel has a very low sulphur content. This must either restrict the
source material or impose much more processing at the refinery.
John G.
Catherine Conway wrote:
Can anyone explain why it is more expensive in Australia when i
Hi All,
Whilst I understand the disgust at the price of diesel, it isnt very relevant
to the discussion.
As I understand it diesel aircraft engines are actually run on kero/JetA1, due
to diesel having high viscosity/wax solidification problems at low temp. (At
least this was the case of a mod
It may also be that auto diesel is not certified for use in aircraft. This was
the case in the UK with my Dad's diesel aero engine company. We did all the
dyno testing using cheap agricultural (red) diesel, but flight testing was done
on JetA1
Tom
- Original Message -
From: David
At Essendon (Melbourne) Avgas is $1.79.19 / Ltr and Jet A1 is $1.80
K
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Tue, 13 May 2008 05:10:17
+Subject: [Aus-soaring] Diesel
Hi All,Whilst I understand the disgust at the price of diesel, it isnt very
relevant to the discussion.As I understa
Michael - get with the 21st Century mate; why use your brain and a map that
costs a couple of dollars when you can use a $2000.00 computer to do the
job :)
On a more serous vein, even as a Flight Service Briefing Officer 25 plus
years ago, knowing our areas well and reading the forecasts many ti
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