We don't all need 12 Mb John.
- Original Message -
From: John Hudson
To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.'
Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2008 4:01 PM
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Soaring Australia November
Frank Johann (Adelaide Soaring Club and Daryl
If the GFA accepts, mandates, hints at or even vaguely accepts that 60 degree
banks at low level/half circuit height are the way to go when turning back from
a rope break, I predict that the accident rate will soar (pardon the pun) with
"spiralling-in" being the new buzzword and mor
"..he would have been signed off against a series of post solo
exercises before eventually being taken off the requirement for daily checks
... but rather a somewhat more thorough series of tests, practical
and oral, leading to the decision to release him from the daily c
In my opinion Robert and the Gliding Qld are to be congratulated for their
attempt to prompt some change. (Not without considerable risk, I reckon, of
being overtly or covertly attacked by a dinosaur or two down the track).
It is however clear that the other States have opted to maintain the sta
a noble cause as long as those who want them can demonstrate
they are worthy of the 'release' from the supervisory environment.
Manuel de Standardos-Proceduros
On 07/09/2008, at 6:10 AM, Geoff Kidd wrote:
With the exception of the need for a launch method, the condit
With the exception of the need for a launch method, the conditions that you
describe (paddock etc) are experienced by numerous of RAA's Ultralight pilots
without too many issues. Perhaps the GFA needs to licence the difference
between the 2, which are the winch or auto-tow drivers instead?
And
The 150/200 hrs requirement looks like it is a part of the soaring movement's
"instructor centric" attitude, which is out of step with all other forms of
aviation and is probably one reason why the movement loses so many people each
year.
A cynic might also think that the imposition of these ho
Robert
It might be worth having a look at http://www.umainstruments.com
I have their items in a Jabiru (but with a Winter Altimeter) and am very please
with their quality.
Regards Geoff
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From: Gary Stevenson
To: Gary Stevenson ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Discuss
bject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Fw: IMPROVED GOVERNANCE &DIRECT
ELECTIONOFTHEGFABOARD
Geoff Kidd wrote:
>
> Is that correct and are both groups really as separate as the website
> makes them appear to be?
>
> The final sentence of the above quoted para also talks about t
Apologies for my last which appeared to go into tabular form when sent, so
herewith another attempt:
In a search of the GFA website it lists under the heading of the "Board",
without any narrative description or photo, a list of the 8 members from the
States as follows: Aaron Stroop NSWGA membe
Apologies for my last which appeared to go into tabular form when sent, so
herewith another attempt:
In a search of the GFA website it lists under the heading of the "Board",
without any narrative description or photo, a list of the 8 members from the
States as follows: Aaron Stroop NSWGA membe
In a search of the GFA website it lists under the heading of the "Board",
without any narrative description or photo, a list of the 8 members from the
States as follows: Aaron Stroop NSWGA member David Conway SAGA member Dave
Donald GQ 2nd member Geoff Wood SAGA 2nd member John Rappell NSWGA 2
Mark Newton wrote:
Sounds like much ado about process, and precious little consideration being
given to outcomes. Lets postulate that GFA is overcome by electoral nirvana,
and the voting system is reformed to complete perfection. What different
decisions that affect real pilots would you see th
Thanks to Maurice for your last reply.
So each State Board Member is elected by maybe 25 - 50 people - or is that
overstating it? Are they "ordinary" members or pre-nominated Club Delegates who
do that electing?
And each Management Board Member is elected by what 3 or 5 department
members
Maurice Little wrote:
The actual process seems to be confused by many. The Board comprises 5 state
elected representatives. That is they are 100% chosen by their constituents
(the ordinary members of their region).
The remaining Board members are 4 heads of department again 100% elected by
Robert Hart wrote:
The reason given to me by a variety of people in the GFA management team for
the current system is to preserve knowledge. Their point is that the
relationship with CASA and the regulatory requirements involved in that
relationship require continuity. My response is always th
Al You might do well to have another squizz at some of the latest "dangerous
little ultralight things" with common engine failures. They have moved on a tad
from those days:
As one example, and there are now many, have a look at
http://www.millennium-aircraft.com and consider:
a.. Constru
irect election of the board is
the next. And both would bring a breath of fresh air and enthusiasm to the
Federation.
I'm not advocating a purge or any other form of blood-letting, but I do
support a demand for open governance using a sound, proven & transparent
organisational model.
Robert's and Other's input below mentions 2500 members and 4500 members 20
years ago, however in the GFA Information - Welcome to Gliding section of the
GFA website it states "The GFA is a non-profit Incorporated Association
registered in Victoria. It is supported by 12,000 members (of varying c
Phil,
There is good info in your post and I don't think anyone is saying that the
existing players aren't putting in the time or effort.
However if you use membership as a simple measure or where the GFA is at,
it is reasonable to conclude that the sport and the GFA is withering on the
Those files aren't big enough for a so-called "discussion group".
Why not inflict 5 or 10 MB on everyone?
- Original Message -
From: erich wittstock
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 9:56 PM
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] FW:
Nigel
Are you sure that it should be just 2%.
Will have a chat with you at Narromine @ Easter.
Regards Geoff
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From: Gary
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in
Australia.'
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 10:04 AM
Subject: Re
Ben/Nigel
Have done as requested but there appears to be nothing specific on the site re
registration as a Flarm owner, just to register for the shop.
Is that the right place?
Regards
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From: Ben Jones
To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net
Sent: Thursday
Dear Mr Carter,
Why single me out?
From my experience building projects (albeit naughty mines) in China,
India, South America & Africa, your "small black waife" is not cursing you for
using the world's resources unwisely.
He is lusting after what you have and is planning which Plas
Dave
Get a V10 Toureg, save the planet, save aluminium from not needing 2 extra
pistons, and feel good about yourself . all at the same time.
- Original Message -
From: Dave Boulter-Internode
To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.'
Sent: Tuesday, Dece
It's simple.
There is "Climate Change", there always has been "Climate Change". there was an
Ice Age and the earth is going through a warming cycle that has been going on
since the last Ice Age.
Will there be another Ice Age. Probably yes.
But will the warming cycle continue for a while? Proba
"out" them :)
I don't think anyone doubts that the ASG29 is a "good thing". It was only
suggested that those same pilots would probably have done equally well in other
equipment.
Cheers
Tim ("written by Tim Shirley for the LS1D owners association of australia.
Luke's note must be either HILARIOUSLY funny amongst those that are in the know
. or alternatively it could, just possibly, look like it is in poor
taste to those that aren't rolling around in mirth.
This group might need a moderator to keep competing sailplane salesmen under
contro
Thanks for that info Mike
That was very interesting.
But I don't think some Hangie's (perhaps isolated) perception of Sailplane
Instruments is the biggest problem that the GFA faces ... however it is perhaps
symptomatic. (But surely they will get turned on by Mike's latest stuff).
For one, try
: Thursday, June 28, 2007 8:58 AM
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] PROMOTING GLIDING
Geoff Kidd wrote:
> RH posted .
>
> Quote
> Perhaps we need to have an IQ test for prospective ab initio pilots?
>
> --
> Robert Hart
> Unquote
>
&g
RH posted .
Quote
Perhaps we need to have an IQ test for prospective ab initio pilots?
--
Robert HartUnquote
Robert, I looked at the date and it's past April 1st, so please PLEASE tell me
that this was a joke.
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Peter
When you have "a student pilot on a weeks course", how many days or weeks
(on average) does it usually take for you to send them solo?
- Original Message -
From: Peter Stephenson
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2
I support the thrust of Stuart's post.
I don't know of ANYBODY outside of the Gliding Community who are aware that
there is such a thing as "Cross Country Soaring", let alone reasonable
distances. And that includes many in the GA & RAA community.
In my view it is "Cross Country Soaring" that is
Robert
1st, congrats to you, for bringing these issues to a Forum where they can
be readily discussed by the members.
I hope you find the following comments to be relevant and of interest.
I am presently working in the CEO's position in the head office of another
national sporting
John,
Thanks for replying, and I can understand your point about the fatals, and
while I don't agree, let's leave those for a minute . although surely they
are almost automatically the most important from which to learn. However having
said that.
Please consider, as examples only, the 3 ac
At the risk of being railed against again by the "You only want the gory
details" mob, I ask whether any of you have considered Kevin's article on P22
of the June 2007 Soaring Australia, and whether you consider it a little
incongruous.
At the end of para 1 Kevin mentions the 4 fatals a
Tom
For what it's worth, I agree with Mike.
- Original Message -
From: Tom Wilksch
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 2:19 PM
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Sporting Licences
Well as I said, unless you are a current stude
Sorry Mal, "Zulu Too" is on a quest for 750 kms, cross-countrying in southern
NSW around all of those dates.
Have you tried to hook the 28 that is in Omarama?
Regards Geoff
- Original Message -
From: Mal Bruce
To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net
Sent: Wednesday, April 25,
g tape.
Also normally from stock we can supply Tesa cloth tape and adhesive transfer
tape... in fact most materials required for sealing and taping your glider.
Tom Gilbert
T&J Sailplane Services
Australian Agents for DG, LS and AMS-Flight
- Original Message -----
From:
Wayne
And that page leads on to
http://www.wingsandwheels.com/asw20_seal_tapes.htm which shows what to use and
where to use it.
Regards Geoff
- Original Message -
From: Geoff Kidd
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007
Thanks for that Wayne. I appreciate it.
FYI there is also good stuff on this at http://www.wingsandwheels.com/page28.htm
Regards Geoff
- Original Message -
From: Wayne Carter
To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 1:05 PM
Subject: [Aus-soarin
Can anyone please suggest sources for 30 mm wide Mylar Tape and related teflon
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"the deliberate impairment of a potentially life-saving device" ...
the legal implications are enormous for the member or the little group who
decide to implement any "impairment".
>From my observations at Sportavia where stick mounted, rudder pedal mounted
>and end of airbrake trav
The discussions of safer fence design and ground-looping techniques are very
worthwhile, but if press and other reports are correct perhaps we should also
discuss the merits of launching while downbursts are in the vicinity or on the
strip.
- Original Message -
From: Anthony Smit
I assume all other members of this forum will now advise what jobs they are in,
where they work or what new jobs they have taken.
It can also become a Real Estate Rental forum as well as a base for self
promotion.
Gz. Give us a break Adam.
- Original Message -
From: Adam Wool
G'day Wayne
Have a look at the new procedures at
http://www.dotars.gov.au/aviation/airspace_reform/stage_2c/training.aspx
It's all there ... (or just do what was the standard procedure at Toc
... which is what this is).
Regards Geoff
- Original Message -
From: Wayne Car
Ian McPhee and he is on this list.
- Original Message -
From: Ben Jones
To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 9:04 PM
Subject: [Aus-soaring] Instruments
Hello all,
At the moment im building a Corby Starlet ( yep a stink wing ) , what i'
Nick
With the greatest respect, I cannot accept that anyone is really "staring at
their flarm in a thermal", or is so stupid as to be doing so.
The device has always been promoted as an AID to see-&-avoid lookout, it does
have an audio function and it is worth remembering that See-and-Avoid is
Were they on?
Try http://www.nswgc2006.com.au/
But don't worry about checking the results as they have not been entered onto
the website since Nov 27.
- Original Message -
From: Future Aviation Pty. Ltd.
To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net
Sent: Monday, December 04, 200
al Message -
From: Ken Caldwell
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 11:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW glider trailer registration
On Thu, 2006-11-30 at 19:10 +1100, Geoff Kidd wrote:
> Ken
>
> The R
Ken
The RTA accepted a Cobra Trailer in NSW about a year ago. From memory that
has a rear overhang of 4700. What is yours?
Regards Geoff
- Original Message -
From: Ken Caldwell
To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 5:25 PM
Subject: [
How many competitors in the Gliding section of the
Games?
- Original Message -
From:
JR
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ;
Discussion of issues relating
to Soaring in Australia.
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 5:17
PM
Subject: [Aus-soaring] Talk about
boring
Hi a
For any of you who may be interested on the manner in
which the SSA has been touched up, read it at http://www.ssa.org/ssa_enews.asp?issue=current
There is a lesson there for even the smallest of
Clubs.
I know of a couple of small Clay Target Clubs that
have experienced similar goings on.
Ian
I have his home number & direct email.
Will send them to you off line.
Regards Geoff
- Original Message -
From:
Patching
To: Discussion of issues relating
to Soaring in Australia.
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 7:56
PM
Subject: [Aus-soaring] Contact
The South Australian and Qld State bodies are
conspicuous thru this forum with the activities &
coaching/lectures that they organise.
Are the other states doing similar things and just not
announcing them via this forum?
In particular, where can I find out about all of the
NSW State base
Will one of our computer buffs
please advise if it is technically easy and economically justifiable for the GFA
to perhaps consider web-streaming the Seminar . and the AGM for that matter
for those members that can't get to Brisbane.
Would it be easily possible to set
it u
Alan
Try Ian McPhee/Mr Soaring, Byron Bay - 02 6684
7642.
Regards Geoff
- Original Message -
From:
alan
dean
To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net
Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2006 9:12
AM
Subject: [Aus-soaring] one man rigging
aid
Hi, I am in the
Pic is a tad grainy. Are they
dandelions or are those white things where the Super Goose has
been?
- Original Message -
From:
Caleb White
To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 4:54
PM
Subject: Re: RE: [Aus-soaring] GPS
errors!
of sats
involved?..>>>>-->From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Geoff
Kidd>Sent: Tuesday, 13 June 2006 12:57 PM>To: Discussion of
issues relating to Soaring in Australia.>Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] GPS
errors!>>Dave>>
Dav
I'm in SW NSW.
Perhaps the SA Govt didn't pay their subscription on
time.
Regards
- Original Message -
From:
Dav
To: 'Discussion of issues
relating to Soaring in Australia.'
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 1:36
PM
Subject: RE: [Aus-soaring] GPS
errors!
Dave
My Garmin in the car gave a worst accuracy of 8 m this
morning and was more like 6 - 7.
Regards Geoff
- Original Message -
From:
Todd Sandercock
To: Discussion of issues relating
to Soaring in Australia.
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 10:45
AM
Subject:
This is getting harder all the time.
Don't tell me we have to get certified for Chess too,
do we?
- Original Message -
From:
Ian
McPhee
To: Discussion of issues relating
to Soaring in Australia.
Cc: Brad Edwards
Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 7:07 AM
Subject
Chris,
Haven't done that (yet), .. but
did drive 12 kms into town the other night at 100 kph with the garbage bin
hooked onto my towbar ... including down the main street.
It might still be there if a bit of
reversing hadn't been needed.
How embarrassment.
Regards Geof
You are spot-on, Tom.
- Original Message -
From:
Tom Wilksch
To: Discussion of issues relating
to Soaring in Australia.
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 11:48
PM
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] WC team
Well, dont want into what ever argument is going on here.
But jus
Be aware that the Mydoom virus has turned up a couple
of times this past week in posts by others via this Forum.
Regards Geoff
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I can't wait for the next dinner party where someone
asks a question about Aquaplaning.
- Original Message -
From:
Patrick
Barfield
To: 'Discussion of issues
relating to Soaring in Australia.'
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 8:41 AM
Subject: RE: [Aus-soaring] aqua
What "evangelical
fervour"? What you have is a goodly sample of
(often cynical) competition pilots who have used the device at 1 or 2 comps
and according to their posts here, and their responses to Kevin's survey, they
almost all report good results, an aid to their lookout and many/most
Wayne
We have a couple of the RFS Pilots staying with us at
present for water bombing of fires in the Riverina.
I'll have a chat with them next opportunity and see if
they have any power line data other than that provided by their
eyes.
G'day & regards Geoff
- Original
My previous post referred to the HT side of the supply
to a domestic single or three phase power supply, not to single wire earth
returns.
I don't know how high that HT was in our case, but I
can advise that the main HT transmission lines here are controlled by a
Transmission Authority, Tr
I can tell you the position re ownership in southern
NSW where Country Energy is the power provider, as I have recently built a power
supply to a new house on a farm.
The owners tells them where they
want the LT power located, they decide the route and build the HT
line and transformer as
David,
Am loath to suggest anything because
a couple of the thought police on this list will respond with the "if you want
it you go and do it, as we/they are all too busy volunteers" line, but in
responding to your message I offer the following:
Certainly the ability to make
on-
Cant
To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 6:25
PM
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring]
ACCIDENTS/INCIDENTS 2005
>From: "Geoff Kidd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>G'day
Graeme,>> That's a good spray. Do you
feel bette
Wombat
Went out to the shed,
checked all balls, you are right. They are not two inches any
more.
Geoff
- Original Message -
From:
Mike
Cleaver
To: Discussion of issues relating
to Soaring in Australia.
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 12:39
AM
Su
aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 1:32
AM
Subject: RE: [Aus-soaring]
ACCIDENTS/INCIDENTS 2005
>From: "Geoff Kidd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
However I would still recommend and lobby for the GFA to further
>expand o
Aren't towballs still 2" dia?
- Original Message -
From:
Daryl
Mackay
To: Discussion of issues relating
to Soaring in Australia.
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 5:10
PM
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] metric
guess
Don't you mean the nut behind the wheel? We
.
The more interesting question is, before seeing
this result, what did you (and other pilots) think (feel) the rate would be?
and why?
Not a dig, a real question from someone interested
in your (and others) perceptions.
Regards
SWK
ore seeing this
result, what did you (and other pilots) think (feel) the rate would be? and
why?
Not a dig, a real question from someone interested in
your (and others) perceptions.
Regards
SWK
From: Geoff Kidd
(2) Am I correct in the reading of
these
(1) Congratulations to the GFA for
including expanded information on this subject in the Feb 2006 issue of
Soaring.
However I would still recommend and
lobby for the GFA to further expand on many or all of those, to allow members to
gain a further appreciation of the circumstances o
Title: GFA Development Department Meeting
Robert,
Faced with declines of the magnitude
that you mention, I know of no company, with which I have been associated, that
would not obtain professional marketing advice(that would probably lead to
some changes being initiated) or at leas
Peter
Yes. All of Scott's come thru that way to me
too.
Regards Geoff
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From:
Peter Stephenson
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net
Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 12:39
PM
Subject: non-soaring: posting as an
eCheersJasonAt
09:42 AM 26/01/2006, Geoff Kidd wrote:>Can any of you find anything on
the NZGp website that lists what aircraft >everyone is
flying?>>I wrote to the contact email asking them for that info
... but can't >locate anything.>>Some of the reports i
Can any of you find anything on the NZGp website that
lists what aircraft everyone is flying?
I wrote to the contact email asking them for that info
... but can't locate anything.
Some of the reports in the GFA Magazine also omit
aircraft types when reporting on Comps. Surely it is vital
Jason,
As a dumb mechanical engineer
that only (just) understands Levers & Fulcrums .. and has only
just mastered posting claims on the OLC.
Do you know anyone who can translate
that into my lingo?
Regards Geoff
- Original Message -
From:
Jason and
Scott,
Don't worry too much about it. You
are doing a great job with the site and the results.
Now that we are used to it, I find
that hitting the "Refresh" button is quite refreshing.
Regards Geoff
- Original Message -
From:
Scott Penrose
To: Discussio
ernet options
somewhere.
Tom
- Original Message -
From:
Geoff
Kidd
To: Discussion of issues
relating to Soaring in Australia.
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 9:41
AM
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] can't get
individual results
Scott
FYI, when I went onto the results page for yesterday,
the OA came up but the daily results page did not show the
scores.
But while on that page, if I refreshed it, all of
the daily scores and order came up.
For some reason it is sometimes not automatically
refreshing when I come
, you can sort by
any field.
It is interesting to note that if you sort by Km - you will see that 6
people actually flew further than Bruce, but not quite as fast. AAT is
definitely a challenging task.
Scott
On 18/01/2006, at 13:13, Geoff Kidd wrote:
Scott
H
Scott
Having all of the tracks on the
website is a great move, from a general interest point of view and also
helps us aspiring types learn more about what it takes to top the points each
day.
Just look how far Bruce went into
the cylinders yesterday compared with the ot
ff
- Original Message -
From:
Mark
Newton
To: Discussion of issues relating
to Soaring in Australia.
Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 9:28
AM
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] RE:
Aus-soaring Digest, Vol 27, Issue 50
Geoff Kidd wrote:> I went back and re-
Just like the GFA does
...
Thanks for that offer
Chris.
- Original Message -
From:
fibremites
To: 'Discussion of issues
relating to Soaring in Australia.'
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 11:22
PM
Subject: RE: [Aus-soaring] Gl
o an aircraft owner.
Regards
- Original Message -
From:
Mark
Newton
To: Discussion of issues relating
to Soaring in Australia.
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 6:15
PM
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] RE:
Aus-soaring Digest, Vol 27, Issue 50
Geoff Kidd wrote:> A cynic might
The RAA reported 9 Accidents/Incidents on P16 of their
Dec/Jan Magazine.
These included Aircraft type, Engine type (not all but
where relevant), Aircraft or Engine ttis, Conditions, Pilot Experience tt and
hrs on type (not all but where relevant), and approx 2 paragraphs on the nature
& ba
Paul
As per numerous recent posts on this Forum, I haven't
heard anyone demanding that the original "Crash Report" be published. Most
understand the issues that you mentioned.
But there is a considerable demand in this Forum, and
elsewhere, for SOMETHING (of substance) to be reported to
Emilis,
Your post contains a fair bit of depth.
I think it is much simpler than that.
The Clubs will thrive and grow if there are lots of new
participants entering the Sport.
Soaring has a terrific product to sell. It is
exciting, it is achievable, it fulfils a basic "need to aviate" i
Terry Roake's report of Dec 16th mentions Mergers in
the following way:
MERGERS DO NOT SOLVE
CLUB PROBLEMS -
Marco Dohmen (Germany) has completed an in depth study on the
merger of clubs as a possible solution to gliding's present problems.
Stef
PM
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] World
gliding numbers
This what you want ?
- Original Message -
From:
Geoff
Kidd
To: Discussion of issues
relating to Soaring in Australia.
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005
3:
Re: [Aus-soaring] World gliding
numbers
This what you want ?
- Original Message -
From:
Geoff
Kidd
To: Discussion of issues
relating to Soaring in Australia.
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 3:46
PM
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] World
population as it is in
Australia and decreasing at the same rate.
Similarities of
cause perhaps?
Chris McDonnell
- Original Message -
From:
Geoff
Kidd
To: Discussion of issues
relating to Soaring in Australia.
Sent
SWK
Thanks for those figures and also to
PB
While the figures for OZ are 1993 3510 & 2004 2637
... a decrease here of about 25% (or 882 pilots in gross terms) when
calculated on the same basis.
Regards GWK
- Original Message -
From:
Kittel, Stephen
Early December Mark Newton wrote:
" (2) gliding activity in the
US is declining a hell of a lot faster than it is in Australia, so I'm not sure
that it's a good idea to emulate whatever it is that they're
doing. ".
As a member of the SSA I have just received their note
that advised the f
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