Hi All,
I wrote the attached article and it received a few comments, both on and off
the web.
I should have summarised as follows.
1. If you enter a spin a modern glider below 1,000 ft. AGL you will almost
certainly die. No amount of prior training will make much difference.
2.Your first defen
Peter (PCS3)
Re: [Aus-soaring] Spinning Re: IS-28B CQC'... Harry
Re: [Aus-soaring] Spinning Re: IS-28B CQC's... Daryl Mackay
[Aus-soaring] spin training Harry
Re: [Aus-soaring] IS-28B CQC's last flying ... Grant Davies
Re:
Sorry for this long response but I am passionate about this issue and some
clarifications are necessary.
It is only true that most spins can be prevented if 1.5Vs is maintained. A
mishandled entry of more than 1 "G" steady is possible at much higher
speeds. (E.g. Mishandling and Snap rolls)
Many
My knowledge is old but I believe still valid.
1. Spin training is done, fully developed spin is trained but emphasis is
placed on recognition of incipient spin.
2. Spinning is an aerobatic manouvre. It is not permitted without the
appropriate training and (aerobatic) endorsment in the license. S
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Subject: [Aus-soaring] Spin Training
Hi All
Why is there such a paranoa about maintaining safe airspeed (which is
accepted to be 1.5 times Vs plus 1/2 windspeed) near the ground for
general flying if below 1,000 feet however:
winch launching pilots only have to maintain
er instances.
>
> Harry
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Michael Derry
> Sent: Friday, December 26, 2014 11:32 AM
> To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net
> Subject: [Aus-soaring] Spin Training
>
> Hi All
>
> Why is there such a paranoa about maintainin
Hi Harry,
Merry Christmas to you.
You have of course (and as usual), correctly identified the real
problem. It is safe speed near the ground. Maintain that and there
will be no chance of spinning. Spinning is a secondary effect of flying
too slow, yet somehow it is now the spin and not the
On 26 December 2014 at 19:33, Daryl Mackay wrote:
Suffice to say no instructor willingly uses the ASK21 for spin awareness
> training at Beverley.
Hi Daryl
Would you mind explaining why? This is a genuine inquiry as my club is
about to take a delivery of one.
Cheers
Paul
Cheers
Pa
Hi Paul,
Detailed response sent to your personal email address just now.
Kind regards,
Daryl
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> Hello Paul, good morning all
>
> You might be interested to know that the US Air Force has already been using
> the ASK21 for spin training over several
> decades.
>
> Therefore you might want to refer to a report by the US Air Force on the spin
> characteristics of the ASK 21. It was done
Bernard, good morning, i would lke o read that report too please?
Ron
On 27 December 2014 at 08:18, Bernhard wrote:
> Hello Paul, good morning all
>
> You might be interested to know that the US Air Force has already been
> using the ASK21 for spin training over several
> decades.
>
> Therefor
: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Spin training
Bernard, good morning, i would lke o read that report too please?
Ron
On 27 December 2014 at 08:18, Bernhard wrote:
Hello Paul, good morning all
You might be interested to know that the US
t; From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net
> [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Ron Sanders
> Sent: Saturday, 27 December 2014 08:44
> To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
> Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Spin training
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>> From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net
>> [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Ron Sanders
>> Sent: Saturday, 27 December 2014 08:44
>> To: Discussion of issues relating to Soa
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Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Spin training
The report reminds us how useless the ASI is during spins. You are better off
judging speed using the noise levels assessed by your ears.
Why hasn't some instrument maker built a better
ied through AoA
or computing speed, g and wing loading etc.
Anthony -Original Message- From:
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On Behalf Of Michael Derry Sent: Saturday, 27
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relati
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Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Spin training
You probably could do something very easily for modern non-flapped gliders.
AoA indicators have been around for a long time. You could have three critical
angles annotated on the devi
ng in Australia.'
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Spin training
Is this what you had in mind Anthony?
http://www.dg-flugzeugbau.de/index.php?id=seitenfaden-e
Ulrich
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[mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On
Actually, I was thinking a flush mounted static probe rather than a pitot.
It would be interesting to see if a transducer could pick up the pressure
fluctuations from separated flow and be able to see the difference from
attached flow.
After doing some work with the RAAF's P-3 wing tips, I am pret
>>You probably could do something very easily for modern non-flapped gliders.
>>AoA indicators have been around for a long time. You could have three
>>critical angles annotated on the device display: stall, climb and cruise.
>>Flapped gliders would need to have a method of knowing what the f
SZD 55 also has a stall warning.
Cheers
Paul
On Dec 27, 2014 9:29 PM, "DMcD" wrote:
> >>You probably could do something very easily for modern non-flapped
> gliders. AoA indicators have been around for a long time. You could have
> three critical angles annotated on the device display: stall,
Might be possible. The frequency of the AC component of the pressure and the
amplitude should change as the flow becomes turbulent. AC is good as offsets,
temperature effects don't cause problems. Silicon pressure tranducers easily go
out to one kilohertz frequency response unless they are the o
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Subject: [Aus-soaring] Spin Training
My knowledge is old but I believe still valid.
1. Spin training is done, fully developed spin is trained but emphasis is
plac
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