RE: [Aus-soaring] Gliding at major airports

2006-02-01 Thread Kittel, Stephen W \(ETSA\)
Yes, it is possible to do it differently. When I visited the Akafleig Braunschweig I found that their workshop and hangar are in one corner (albeit out of the way) of the Braunschweig airport. The Akafleig aerotow, and I think, winch off the aerodrome, but not off the runways. The stuff that bo

RE: [Aus-soaring] Gliding at major airports

2006-02-01 Thread Allan Armistead
ardo da Vinci, 1452-1519 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kittel, Stephen W (ETSA) Sent: Thursday, 2 February 2006 8:03 To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: RE: [Aus-soaring] Gliding at major airports Yes, it

Re: [Aus-soaring] Gliding at "major" airports

2006-02-01 Thread Dave and Cath
Speaking of user fees, I have had two bills in 2004 from Camden airport, although I have never flown there. Their response is unsatisfying - they want me to prove that I was never there. Has this happened to anyone else? Dave Long ___ Aus-soaring

Re: [Aus-soaring] Gliding at "major" airports

2006-02-01 Thread Mike Borgelt
At 09:48 AM 2/02/06, you wrote: Speaking of user fees, I have had two bills in 2004 from Camden airport, although I have never flown there. Their response is unsatisfying - they want me to prove that I was never there. Has this happened to anyone else? Dave Long ___

RE: [Aus-soaring] Gliding at "major" airports

2006-02-01 Thread Kittel, Stephen W \(ETSA\)
I assume it is landing fees for the same registration as your aircraft. It isn't frequent but is common enough. The airports collect their landing fees through the company Avdata who record all the circuit radio calls and bill based on that. It can be people using false call signs to avoid charges

Re: [Aus-soaring] Gliding at "major" airports

2006-02-01 Thread Peter Stephenson
Soaring in Australia." Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 9:48 AM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Gliding at "major" airports > Speaking of user fees, I have had two bills in 2004 from Camden airport, > although I have never flown there. > Their response is unsatisfying - they wan

Re: [Aus-soaring] Gliding at "major" airports

2006-02-01 Thread Tom Wilksch
Are you badmouthing the Blanik? :-D - Original Message - From: "Peter Stephenson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia." Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 11:41 AM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Gliding at "maj

RE: [Aus-soaring] Gliding at "major" airports

2006-02-01 Thread Catherine Conway
issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: RE: [Aus-soaring] Gliding at "major" airports I assume it is landing fees for the same registration as your aircraft. It isn't frequent but is common enough. The airports collect their landing fees through the company Avdata who record

RE: [Aus-soaring] Gliding at "major" airports

2006-02-01 Thread Kittel, Stephen W \(ETSA\)
>-Original Message- >From: Catherine Conway > >I thought gliders (and motorgliders) were exempt anyway? >Simon paid a bill for the Falke, then got a refund. > >-Cath That's true (I'd forgotten). Ultralight are exempt also (actually RAA won't give out their register so Avdata can't charg

Re: [Aus-soaring] Gliding at "major" airports

2006-02-01 Thread Ian McPhee
iscussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia." Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 12:54 PM Subject: RE: [Aus-soaring] Gliding at "major" airports -Original Message- From: Catherine Conway I thought gliders (and motorgliders) were exempt anyway? Simon paid a bill for

RE: [Aus-soaring] Gliding at "major" airports

2006-02-01 Thread Derek Ruddock
Behalf Of Dave and Cath > Sent: Thursday, 2 February 2006 10:49 AM > To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. > Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Gliding at "major" airports > > Speaking of user fees, I have had two bills in 2004 from Camden airport, > although I ha

RE: [Aus-soaring] Gliding at "major" airports

2006-02-01 Thread Derek Ruddock
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kittel, > Stephen W (ETSA) > Sent: Thursday, 2 February 2006 11:40 AM > To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. > Subject: RE: [Aus-soaring] Gliding at "major" airports > > I assume it is landing fees for the same regist

RE: [Aus-soaring] Gliding at "major" airports

2006-02-01 Thread Allan Armistead
ed skyward, for there you have been and there you always will be." Leonardo da Vinci, 1452-1519 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dave and Cath Sent: Thursday, 2 February 2006 10:49 To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australi

RE: [Aus-soaring] Gliding at major airports

2006-02-01 Thread Emilis Prelgauskas
On Thu, 2 Feb 2006 08:21:49 +1100, Allan Armistead wrote: >really >strong >headwinds en route necessitated the tow be abandoned and the >combination >divert to Canberra airport.   Back in history, for the 60th anniversary of the sport in 1989 in South Australia the numerous supportive

Re: [Aus-soaring] Gliding at "major" airports

2006-02-02 Thread Kevin Roden
: Thursday, 2 February 2006 11:40 AM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: RE: [Aus-soaring] Gliding at "major" airports I assume it is landing fees for the same registration as your aircraft. It isn't frequent but is common enough. The airports collect the

Re: [Aus-soaring] Gliding at "major" airports

2006-02-02 Thread Dave and Cath
Camden claim that they have someone driving around, sighting and collecting aircraft registrations - so this person needs glasses. They couldn't tell me what type of aircraft they had recorded. On contacting them they refuse to accept my explanation without "proof." Despite the glider being reg

RE: [Aus-soaring] Gliding at major airports

2006-02-02 Thread Reg Moore
      A blatant self promotion exercise, drawing much media interest.   My impression is that not only would it be more complex and expensive to do today, and also the gliding and media/public reaction would be more negative   (judging by the bollocking I got fr

RE: [Aus-soaring] Gliding at major airports

2006-02-02 Thread rolf a. buelter
EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia." To: "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia." Subject: RE: [Aus-soaring] Gliding at major airports Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 07:33:28 +1030 Yes, it is possible to do it different

RE: [Aus-soaring] Gliding at "major" airports

2006-02-02 Thread Allan Armistead
there you always will be." Leonardo da Vinci, 1452-1519 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dave and Cath Sent: Thursday, 2 February 2006 22:20 To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Gl

RE: [Aus-soaring] Gliding at "major" airports

2006-02-02 Thread Stuart & Kerri FERGUSON
lto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Allan Armistead Sent: Friday, 3 February 2006 5:10 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: RE: [Aus-soaring] Gliding at "major" airports Make it a big bill. I'm sure your time is very valuable. Allan Armistead ph (02) 6249

RE: [Aus-soaring] Gliding at "major" airports

2006-02-02 Thread Jason and Jemima Armistead
EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Allan Armistead Sent: Friday, 3 February 2006 5:10 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: RE: [Aus-soaring] Gliding at "major" airports Make it a big bill. I'm sure your time is very valuable. Allan Armistead ph (02) 624

RE: [Aus-soaring] Gliding at "major" airports

2006-02-03 Thread Stuart & Kerri FERGUSON
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason and Jemima Armistead Sent: Friday, 3 February 2006 6:27 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: RE: [Aus-soaring] Gliding at "major" airports Stuart I do not believe the records come from th

RE: [Aus-soaring] Gliding at major airports

2006-02-03 Thread David Boulter
IL PROTECTED]> To: "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia." Sent: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 08:21:49 +1100 Subject: RE: [Aus-soaring] Gliding at major airports > We (Canberra) had an occasion some years ago where we were > aerotowing a glider from our site at Bunyan to Temor

RE: [Aus-soaring] Gliding at major airports - Own your AFLD!!

2006-02-02 Thread darylmackay
*** Quoting Allan Armistead <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kittel, > Stephen W (ETSA) > Sent: Thursday, 2 February 2006 8:03 > To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring i

RE: [Aus-soaring] Gliding at major airports - Own your AFLD!!

2006-02-02 Thread Allan Armistead
ting to Soaring in Australia. Subject: RE: [Aus-soaring] Gliding at major airports - Own your AFLD!! > Fortunately we are in the excellent situation of owning our own bit of > ground. > > Allan Armistead > ph (02) 6249 6470, fax (02) 62

RE: [Aus-soaring] Gliding at major airports - Own your AFLD!!

2006-02-02 Thread darylmackay
Quoting Allan Armistead <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Yes it all happened prior to me joining, must have been early '80s (I joined > in 1986). We used to operate from the Snowy Mountains Authority airfield at > Polo Flat (and a number of others prior to that over the years) and SMA > decided they didn't

Re: [Aus-soaring] Gliding at major airports - Own your AFLD!!

2006-02-02 Thread Ian McPhee
of issues relating to Soaring in Australia." Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 5:06 PM Subject: RE: [Aus-soaring] Gliding at major airports - Own your AFLD!! Fortunately we are in the excellent situation of owning our own bit of ground. Allan Armistead ph (02) 6249 6470, fax (02) 6249 6555, mobi