On May 26, 2007, at 20:43, Matt Sergeant wrote:
On 25-May-07, at 11:11 PM, S. Woodside wrote:
But I'm running XML::LibXML 1.59. I don't really trust macports...
I don't either, and 1.63 installs without a hitch here (libxml
2.6.27, OS X.4.9).
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OT and not AxKit’s doing, (for
completeness;
running 1.6 and 1.7 with recommended versions of LibXSLT etc), but can
anyone put me out of my misery and give me a hint on how to stop the
addition?
Are you sure you don't just have that in one of your XSLT templates?
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names one way
or another need to be NS aware.
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On Oct 30, 2006, at 17:53, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 30 Oct 2006 at 16:42, Also Sprach Robin Berjon:
It may be a long shot but you should try dumping namespaceURI,
localName and tagName for body and the divs that match. A number of
implementations are a bit fuzzy on what they match on for non
a value.
Is there any chance that get_node(0) returns something? Have you
tried to dump the NodeList you get to see if it contains anything?
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, if you
need it to be reviewed (which is probably a good idea given that it's
new and some parts are still moving targets, just ask Matt, Kip (of
AxBook fame), or any of the other dahuts, I'm sure you'll get a few
pairs of eyes on it.
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discussed on irc://irc.perl.org/axkit-dahut in
case you're interested. It's good stuff :)
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Hey Matt,
not that I personally mind, being interested and subscribed to both
(I think), but shouldn't the commit messages go to -developers?
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Tom Kirkpatrick wrote:
Better still... How long can I expect to be waiting until the next
release of AxKit?
The problem is tuits. Perhaps someone would like to step up to be
release manager? (ie running tests and shipping a release on a regular
basis)
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other situation you're working with a data model instead of an actual
representation, and therefore escaping should never be necessary. If it
is something smells bad in the system, and you know you'll hit trouble
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that way, especially as you could
implement your own caching strategy.
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Are there published schemas for XSP or is it a users choice kind of things?
If there are published schemas where can I find them?
Not that I know of, why do you need one?
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to do there may be better options (eg providers). The AxKit book
has a discussion of the pros and cons IIRC, though people here might
chime in with their views.
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a good idea to hack into them).
Here goes:
AxKit::Plugin::DisableXSLTParams
AxKit::XSP::AttrParam
AxKit::XSP::CharConv
AxKit::XSP::MD5
Thanks!
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, if not some other guy must be
happy... I may be dropping out of the CPAN roster but I still retain the
mighty admin powers of old ;)
Good luck with the conversion, taking the world over one page at a time...
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of it if you feel like it (ping me with questions, it's not all well
documented):
http://www.expway.com/robin/SVG-XPath/svg-xpath.html
Hope you're enjoying SVG!
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the client could submit content
updates to various target URLs asyncronously, as long as it knew what URL /
XML ID a given DOM node in the browser was associated with.
Just a drive-by comment: it really sounds like you want XForms :)
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Mozilla and firefox do not have this problem.
Does anyone have any idea where I might start looking?
A dump of your headers would be helpful, along with the actual size of
the content (as opposed to what content-length says).
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is not
matching that of those documents (or some similar failing).
but another rises:
[Error] drawing.mod:561: validity warning:
Attribute transform of element draw:text-box:
already defined
Try to comment out the definition of that attribute at that line in that
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David Nolan wrote:
Then once a user is shown to be a good wiki citizen, they get full access.
Yes, and alternatively we good have comments in the Wiki open to all
(using Matt's XSP Comments stuff) and require the password for proper
edition.
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, both for input and
output. There are various options to control AxKit's behaviour in this
regard.
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S Woodside wrote:
What's a U-shaped pipeline?
It's a pipeline that has a sub-pipeline that processes the incoming
data, and another that processes the outgoing data. It's a nice way of
implementing parts of DAV, or Web Services.
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have to create their own
widgets) at the end you'll find an example of how to use a small widget
library (that looks better than the examples of course) without needing
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S Woodside wrote:
On Monday, November 24, 2003, at 08:12 AM, Robin Berjon wrote:
For the forms stuff, stealing from Cocoon and looking into that
server-side implementation of XForms (that converts to HTML+script)
from IBM would imho be interesting steps. For the WS part, I think
that making U
Jason Johnston wrote:
Robin Berjon wrote:
It is true that RDF input (to AxKit) is hard, because of the
flexibility of RDF's expression in XML. The same statement can be
said in many ways, and that requires a specialised RDF parser. We
don't currently have that in AxKit, and it would be really nice
there to RDBMS is trivial.
XForms does a fair part of that.
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Kip Hampton wrote:
Robin Berjon wrote:
Obviously, this all leads back to your point, which is that we
might still need to deliver HTML (hopefully not for too long) to
dumb clients. IE6 gives new meaning to the dumb terminal syntagm.
I wouldn't bet on seeing the demise of HTML
was just Ian Hickson being his usual anti-XForms
HTML Is The One True Idol self. And it pretty much died out at the
end. I intend to look into implementing XML Events in Mozilla, and later
on XForms if no one's done it.
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Michael A Nachbaur wrote:
On Wednesday 19 November 2003 12:47 am, Robin Berjon wrote:
Do you have specific technical ideas that we should work on to
facilitate this?
In my (short) experience building Mozilla+XUL applications, the thing I
noticed the need for most was RDF input.
I'm confused
of maturity and that the needs of that community are
known with much higher clarity than they were before. I think that those
that will succeed are those that'll provide an incremental transition
path, but then again I'm biased.
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Kip Hampton wrote:
There's been a lot of buzz and other noise going on about how the next
generation of Web-based applications will be implemented.
Yes, there's a lot of talk about all this but there are a few facts that
just don't seem to make it out.
1) These things only come
on that
topic. Curlies are part of the unwise class:
unwise = { | } | | | \ | ^ | [ | ] | `
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string in each of the steps.
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axkit is happy, but psgmls barfs.
Have you tried a file: URL for both?
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indication is that
AxKit started using XML::LibXML ages ago, and it shows the intention to use
XML::DOM.
I guess it should be removed from the distro :)
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David Nolan wrote:
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I didn't see that one going in. Does it run through the process and send
the right headers for size and all, or does it just stop after checking
that the file exists? (former seems better to me)
The latter would seem better
Jörg Walter wrote:
I have a yet unreleased plugin which adds
arbitrary perl expressions as parameters,
Is that http://foo.org/bar.xml?ap=system(%27rm+-Rf+/%27) ?
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file exists? (former seems better to me)
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Matt Sergeant wrote:
On Wed, 16 Jul 2003, Peter Flynn wrote:
Does perl -MCPAN work *at all* if you have Perl from the RPMs
instead of from a manually-compiled source?
Yes. Always.
Though in some braindead RPMs you need to install the -devel version as well or
it won't work.
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, make that a coderef that will
validate both keys and values.
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reason.
What you propose would be nice to have, but the conclusion these days would be
don't use client side XSLT :-/
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be very useful. IIRC it's in
seconds since the epoch.
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Provider to access the CF back-end.
PS: wow, Cold Fusion! I hadn't heard of that since '96!
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system?
Yes, many people :)
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It should be truly trivial. The provider's get_strref() would call get() from
LWP::Simple (or something slightly more elaborate if POST is needed -- but that
won't be hard either).
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Brian Bray wrote:
Robin Berjon wrote:
It seemed from the original post that that's what he was doing. There
may be reasons for going another route though. Maybe CF doesn't cache
XSLT operations. Maybe he wants some post-processing with AxKit beyond
just XSLT. Maybe he's transitioning out
at a time, for every request.
Human-friendly names on entities can be nice for editing, but the browsers
really couldn't care less, simple-minded little computery things they are.
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stuff, I probably get to see more XML vocabularies than most
people typically do. I have yet to encounter one area where people do not use
default namespaces. I know I do, always always always.
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think that will do what we need.
Shouldn't AxOutputCharset override any previous setting?
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probably the
only two people that would prefer it this way ;)
[0]http://search.cpan.org/author/RBERJON/AxKit-Plugin-DisableXSLTParams-0.01/DisableXSLTParams.pm
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Matt Sergeant wrote:
On Fri, 28 Feb 2003, Robin Berjon wrote:
Shouldn't AxOutputCharset override any previous setting?
Shouldn't XSLT encodings override any previous setting?
Doesn't AxOutputCharset runs last?
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) you probably want to throw in a
die This can only be used as the final step unless $last_in_chain;
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, but it would seem that some users are interest in having
AxOutputCharset override the world. I guess it's poll thing.
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it can be cached.
This is perfectly simple and perfectly implementable, and allows users to get
what params they want simply by declaring a namespace, on a stylesheet per
stylesheet basis.
As soon as I start using AxKit regularly again I will implement this if no one
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that works then stick to it until you *really* need to change. Those
are high quality packages but they have their tough bits and here and there
leaks are exposed that are triggered because of unpredicted interactions. Apart
from that I don't remember seeing AxKit leak.
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Tom Schindl wrote:
can I read XML-Parameters when only using (lib)xslt and not xsp. My
problem is, that i have to implement i18n based on an CGI-Parameter.
AxKit should kindly make CGI params available to you if you define xsl:param
elements in the stylesheet with the same names.
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(although LibXSLT works just fine, no memleaks there).
XPathScript was built on XML::XPath last time I checked, not XML::LibXML. If
that is still true, memory leaks there are likely to be due to Perl stuff, eg
circular refs hanging around.
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normally do random, but if you're feeling brave you
could write an extension function to XML::LibXSLT in Perl to do that.
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engine, some parts are tied to being used in
web situations.
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writing a taglib because a) it means people don't have to think
about it and b) it makes integration with AxKit easier.
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chose to make it so yourself, so you should
actively add a prefix (as opposed to having actions-at-a-distance by monkeying
with the default namespace).
Of course, the XML Schema people decided to chose the opposite approach, but
that's another story... ;)
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degree to autogenerate XML::SAX::Machines pipelines
from the AxKit configuration.
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as
part of a CMS or some other kind of system.
Err, I'd think a CMS would validate a document when it enters the system, not
when it serves it. I would make it part of the publication workflow.
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Kip Hampton wrote:
Robin Berjon wrote:
Another would be the ability to populate a
form using an instance XML document and the possibility of recreating
a similar instance based on what is submitted back.
XForms support aside for a sec, I've been pondering the idea of a
roundtripping Provider
a schema gives
the necessary data validation anyway.
Because that way you can avoid using a schema :)
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define a schema. They're simple, and stupid.
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S Woodside wrote:
Is that an official new logo for axkit on the site?
I think so yes, though it may be modified to include the Apache feather.
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that
before... :-)
I think he's talking about the Perl stack trace :)
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nothing that couldn't be done in XSLT) have you
tried porting them to XSLT (if only to compare speed)? I wouldn't surprised if
LibXSLT were a lot faster (which is one good reason to port XPS to XML::LibXML).
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Kjetil Kjernsmo wrote:
Any hint about what I should be looking for to determine if Common.pm is
needed?
XML::LibXML::Common is required for XML::LibXML 1.53+. Getting it from CPAN
should hopefully be trivial.
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API is get_strref() and get_fh(). There's no
set_strref(). Thats all really - its not a barrier, just a conceptual
issue in my head.
So let's apply Joerg's patch that adds that :) It's been floating around for a
year! Joerg?
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, it can be as quick-hacky or as over-engineered as the situation
warrants.
I've found that using Apache::RegistryFilter and Apache::ASP filtered
into AxKit makes for neat fun.
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like the others. Should one of our dear PMC reps raise that issue
(or download the ~50Mo required to rebuild the site)?
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purpose of the taglib helpers is to make working with
taglibs easier, not provide a rigorous implementation of XML details?
I think they should be rigorous, but playing with the whitespace at the
application level is no breach to XML.
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processor.
Surely, both are about as portable ;)
Still an axkitten, as far as I'm concerned...
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Kjetil Kjernsmo wrote:
On Monday 03 February 2003 16:05, Robin Berjon wrote:
No, not really. You'd need to have a DTD (or XML Schema, but lets not
go there) declaring in which elements is whitespace significant and
in which it isn't.
OK, I don't understand that, but never mind.
If you don't
look like a not-so-optimal solution. Can you please
explain a little further?
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be specific to a taglib as well.
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no, most of those rules tend to be pretty much useless in many cases.
Whitespace is one of the Recurrent Problems People Have With XML.
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Alex Sergeyev wrote:
Also - this module (and Language::XSP) shows me many warnings when I tried to catch
simple tag xxx:aaa / without content. (when use warnings and use strict was
used in my module)
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(surprisingly enough) xpathscript that takes an XML files and an stylesheet and
processes the former with the latter. You could probably modify easily it to
suit your needs.
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relating to
transcoding.
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prefixes to make sure they are unique when
you use namespaced documents. It doesn't look very friendly but most of the time
it makes you safer.
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(which is normal), then
there is no difference. The $NS global is there to tell the XSP processor which
XSP namespace your taglib is responsible for, but has nothing to do with the
namespace(s) of what you output.
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want content from your DB looking like a variable being interpolated).
Another option you might want to explore is using
$clean = Apache::AxKit::Language::XSP::makeSingleQuoted($string);
though I must say my memory is a bit dim (but testing it ought to be safe ;).
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/chonour/perllib/include/libxml2'
running xml2-config... ok
looking for -lxml2... yes
Note (probably harmless): No library found for -lxml2
Have you tried to sprinkle warnings over the Makefile.PL to find out why it's
not finding libxml2?
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Matt Sergeant wrote:
On Friday, Nov 22, 2002, at 15:21 Europe/London, Robin Berjon wrote:
I've been going back and forth on that one, but after my last attempt
(and failure) to patch XSP.pm I've become convinced that XSLT is the
way to go. Starting from there we abandon the idea of ever
* be an interesting
approach. No one is saying that AxKit 1.7 should ditch its XSP implementation,
we're just discussing alternatives that could be cool (and perhaps eventually
better -- you never know).
We're hackers, we want to play!
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from
scratch. At some point a version of AxKit broke it in a way that made it
impossible to use with namespaced output. I wouldn't be surprised that the fix
involved declaring namespaces in a brute force fashion ;-)
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