Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Flores Genealogy

2011-10-12 Thread eric edgar
Marilyn, I've come across this family before in my Flores research. If you look at the 1900 census Oakland, The family just before Alfred and Emma is that of Tony and Amelia Avelor. These are Emma's parents and sisters. I haven't found a marriage record for the parents in the Flores book. Eric

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Flores Genealogy

2011-10-11 Thread Marilyn Roth
Hello, John, I'm hoping you can assist me. I'm trying to help my sister-in-law, Janice Bettencourt Roth. She descends from Alfred Jacinto Nunes (16 Nov. 1872, [Lomba?] Flores, Azores, Portugal - 1919, CA, USA) who m. Oct. 1898, Oakland, CA, USA, Emilia Josephine Avel[l]ar (22 Jan. 1881 - 25

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Flores Genealogy

2011-09-04 Thread Shirley Allegre
I have a lot of ancestors from Sao Miguel, island. Who are you looking for? What time period? Shirley in CA - Original Message - From: Gail Elizares To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2011 10:04 AM Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Flores Genealogy

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Flores Genealogy

2011-09-04 Thread eric edgar
- Original Message - *From:* Gail Elizares geliza...@hawaii.rr.com *To:* azores@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Sunday, August 28, 2011 10:04 AM *Subject:* RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Flores Genealogy What is the CCA website? I’m trying to find out what place of Sao Miguel my family came from. I

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Flores Genealogy

2011-08-29 Thread Steve Peters
On Aug 28, 11:17 am, Kathy Cardoza kmacard...@me.com wrote: I use a Mac under the new Lion OS and access the CCA site using Safari with no problem at this address:  http://pg.azores.gov.pt/drac/cca/ig/ I think the problem for you is that you are using Firefox . it does not work for Mac

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Flores Genealogy

2011-08-28 Thread Steve Peters
On Aug 27, 12:33 pm, Katharine katharine.f.ba...@gmail.com wrote: Cheri mentioned that at least some of the Azores genealogical scans that are online cannot be viewed using Mozilla Firefox, in case that's what you're using.  So see if Internet Explorer works for you. Thanks fro that tip. I

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Flores Genealogy

2011-08-28 Thread Cheri Mello
Steve P, There are several Mac users on this list that access the CCA Web site. Maybe one of them will chime in or email you and let you know how they access the CCA site. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- To

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Flores Genealogy

2011-08-28 Thread Nancy Couto
Steve, I'm surprised you've had no luck with Safari. I can get into the CCA Website using Safari on my iPad. I can't get the graphic map of the islands without Flash Player, but I can get into all of the genealogical records. Maybe you should try Safari again. Nancy On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Flores Genealogy

2011-08-28 Thread rcapodc
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2011 5:15 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Flores Genealogy Steve, I'm surprised you've had no luck with Safari. I can get into the CCA Website using Safari on my iPad. I can't get the graphic map of the islands without Flash

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Flores Genealogy

2011-08-28 Thread Katharine
For anyone seeking a first-rate bilingual tour-guide on Flores, I heartily recommend Sílvio Medina, who showed me around the island in June 2002 and proved to be the best guide on all five islands where I used professional guides/drivers. He spent most of his youth in Stoughton, Mass., so speaks

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Flores Genealogy

2011-08-28 Thread John Vasconcelos
*Hi Kathie, I can also recommend Silvio Medina as I have used him also. I arrived on Flores in late June or early July of 2002 (shucks cuz, we keep missing each other). I know I was there the third weekend of July for the Festa dos Emigrantes because I played trombone with the Filarmonica Nossa

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Flores Genealogy

2011-08-27 Thread Steve Peters
On Aug 26, 9:34 pm, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Repost for Katharine Baker: ...He was very helpful during my 2004 visit to Horta, when I spent a good deal of time in the Regional Archives. Katharine, I'd be curious to know more about your (or anyone else's) experience in the

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Flores Genealogy

2011-08-27 Thread Katharine
Steve, when I was there in May 2008 the Horta Archives DID let me look at the actual record books. However, I think that was before any of the scans of them were online, which would explain everything. The librarians there have been very kind to me too, despite the halting nature of my

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Flores Genealogy

2011-08-27 Thread John Vasconcelos
*Steve*,* I second what my cousin Kathie said regarding the helpfulness of the staff at the Horta Archives **HOWEVER, that was 7 years ago. I did extensive research there in 2000 and 2002 and policies may have been more relaxed then. I was allowed to look thru the original church registers then,

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Flores Genealogy

2011-08-27 Thread FRANK BARTLETT
Never been to any of the Azores. Taking all of your experiences in. Thanking all so much. Frank On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 3:33 PM, Katharine katharine.f.ba...@gmail.comwrote: Steve, when I was there in May 2008 the Horta Archives DID let me look at the actual record books. However, I think

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Flores Genealogy

2011-08-26 Thread Diane Lavely
You found some records for me earlier, Eric. But there were no grandparents names nor was Maria Joaquina's maiden name found. I am still looking. I also plan to do DNA testing on my mother (her granddaughter). Thanks. Diane On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 8:57 PM, E Sharp bellema...@gmail.com wrote:

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Flores Genealogy

2011-08-26 Thread Cheri Mello
Repost for Katharine Baker: Hi, Frank! Francisco ANP Gomes is a kind, lovely and knowledgeable gentleman on Flores genealogy, although his English can tactfully be described as limited. I can send you his email address and phone number in Horta by private email, if you wish. He was very helpful

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Flores Genealogy

2011-08-25 Thread Cheri Mello
Repost for Diane Lavely: Celeste - - I'm looking for my great grandmother - - Maria Joaquina ??? who married Jose M. Soares. She was born on Flores - - though I don't know her maiden name. She and Jose lived in the Boston, Mass area - - Somerville, Mass. Could there be a connection with your

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Flores Genealogy

2011-08-25 Thread E Sharp
Diane, Did they have children born in MA to 1915 as their birth records may be online and may give the grandparent's names. Or were they married in MA before 1915? This info might also help find the ship's manifest...and Passportes??? E -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Flores Genealogy

2011-08-25 Thread Sam Koester
: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Flores Genealogy Repost for Diane Lavely: Celeste - - I'm looking for my great grandmother - - Maria Joaquina ??? who married Jose M. Soares. She was born on Flores - - though I don't know her maiden name. She and Jose lived in the Boston, Mass area - - Somerville, Mass. Could

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Flores Whaling Ships

2010-06-28 Thread Kawika322
Just adding a little bit more info on Antonio Pedro Freitas...he jumped ship in the port of San Francisco in the early 1880's or late 1870's. Does anyone know if there is a list or database like the New Bedford one, of Azorean whaling ships with crew member names? Then i might be able to figure

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Flores Whaling Ships

2010-06-28 Thread bellemarco
Re: Antonio Pedro Freitas...he jumped ship at the port of San Francisco in the early 1880's or late 1870's If he jumped ship, I doubt you will find any record of that. The first record you will find on him would be the 1880 census, if he was in SF in 1870 or the 1900 census if it was 1880 as

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Flores Whaling Ships

2010-06-28 Thread Shirley Allegre
: Monday, June 28, 2010 11:01 AM Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Flores Whaling Ships Just adding a little bit more info on Antonio Pedro Freitas...he jumped ship in the port of San Francisco in the early 1880's or late 1870's. Does anyone know if there is a list or database like the New Bedford

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Flores Whaling Ships

2010-06-28 Thread eric edgar
ship.. Thanks Shirley in CA - Original Message - From: Kawika322 oldschoo...@gmail.com To: Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 11:01 AM Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Flores Whaling Ships Just adding a little bit more info on Antonio Pedro Freitas

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Flores Whaling Ships

2010-06-28 Thread eric edgar
Shirley in CA - Original Message - From: Kawika322 oldschoo...@gmail.com To: Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 11:01 AM Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Flores Whaling Ships Just adding a little bit more info on Antonio Pedro Freitas...he jumped

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Flores Whaling Ships

2010-06-28 Thread eric edgar
To: Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 11:01 AM Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Flores Whaling Ships Just adding a little bit more info on Antonio Pedro Freitas...he jumped ship in the port of San Francisco in the early 1880's or late 1870's. Does anyone know

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Flores Whaling Ships

2010-06-28 Thread E Sharp
Here is another good site about Portuguese who were Whalers and Dairymen in California http://library.csustan.edu/bsantos/calif.html E -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options,

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Flores Genealogy and Drinking Society

2010-06-23 Thread Cindy D
Arlene... Thought you'd want to know that the information you provided IS my family. My mom dug out a note with info from her aunt that never really made sense before, but with your information, we understand now that the note says Margarida had 2 sisters, Ana and Mary and one brother, Frank

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Flores Genealogy and Drinking Society

2010-06-23 Thread Cindy D
not list any other families that is connected to them. Arlene M. - Original Message -   From: Cindy D kcci...@aol.com To: Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 8:07 AM Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Flores Genealogy andDrinkingSociety

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Flores Genealogy and Drinking Society

2010-06-23 Thread danandmaria
Maria do Coracao de Jesus is her first name. - Original Message - From: Cindy D kcci...@aol.com To: Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 7:11:02 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Flores Genealogy and Drinking

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Flores Genealogy and Drinking Society

2010-06-23 Thread Sam Koester
Cindy; I am certainly no expert but; from what I have learned, women in the Azores in this time period did not routinely use a surname. Again, this largely depends on the time frame. Children could have a surname of their mother, father, grandparent on either side, distant relative, etc. If

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Flores Genealogy and Drinking Society

2010-06-23 Thread John Vasconcelos
Cindy, Adding to what Sam said, very often male children would be given their mother's surname (when she had one). This would often happen when the mother had no male siblings to pass on the the grandfather's surname. It would sometimes happen when the mother was from a more prominant family.

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Flores Genealogy and Drinking Society

2010-06-23 Thread Arlene Marcoux
@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 5:01 AM Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Flores Genealogy and Drinking Society Arlene... Thought you'd want to know that the information you provided IS my family. My mom dug out a note with info from her aunt that never really made sense before

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Flores Genealogy and Drinking Society

2010-06-17 Thread Cindy D
to them. Arlene M. - Original Message - From: Cindy D kcci...@aol.com To: Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 8:07 AM Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Flores Genealogy andDrinkingSociety I dug out my Flores family. �I don't have much to share

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Flores Genealogy and Drinking Society

2010-06-17 Thread Sam Koester
] On Behalf Of Cindy D Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 11:32 AM To: Azores Genealogy Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Flores Genealogy and Drinking Society I don't understand the naming process as Maria Ursula de Jesus has do Coracao in the middle. Is that a name or a place? Also, what does, From

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Flores Genealogy/Pimentel

2010-06-17 Thread John Vasconcelos
to mid 70’s? I went to school with john and would like to say hello. Thanks! Tony *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *John Vasconcelos *Sent:* Monday, June 07, 2010 9:00 AM *To:* azores@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Flores Genealogy and Drinking Society

2010-06-17 Thread John Vasconcelos
.2/27/1882. I am sorry but it does not list any other families that is connected to them. Arlene M. - Original Message - From: Cindy D kcci...@aol.com To: Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 8:07 AM Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Flores Genealogy and Drinking Society

2010-06-17 Thread Arlene Marcoux
Cindy, Yes, Francisco is Americanized to Frank. Arlene M - Original Message - From: John Vasconcelos To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 3:42 PM Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Flores Genealogy and Drinking Society Cindy, Sam is on the right

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Flores Genealogy and Drinking Society

2010-06-14 Thread Arlene Marcoux
, 2010 8:07 AM Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Flores Genealogy and Drinking Society I dug out my Flores family. I don't have much to share, just scant information. I keep hoping to be connected to someone. Here's my Flores family: Margarida Ursela Pimentel, b June 1879 in Flores, immigrated

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Flores Genealogy and Drinking Society

2010-06-14 Thread Kawika322
Hi all, I have been looking at the Flores posts and wanted to throw my family line out there to see if there were any connections. My gg grandfather was Antonio Pedro Freitas. He was born 4 Mar 1853 in NS Rosario, Lajes de Flores. He also had a brother Jose Freitas Pedro who was born 8 Nov 1856.

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Flores Genealogy and Drinking Society

2010-06-14 Thread eric edgar
David, The Pel on the birth record is most likely the shorthand for Pimentel. You see this a lot in older records. Roiz for Rodrigues, Ant for Antonio, Ma for Maria. etc I have ancestors also that had a pai incognito and a named mother from Corvo. With a name like Maria Coelho, you are likely at

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Flores Genealogy and Drinking Society

2010-06-11 Thread Cindy D
I dug out my Flores family. I don't have much to share, just scant information. I keep hoping to be connected to someone. Here's my Flores family: Margarida Ursela Pimentel, b June 1879 in Flores, immigrated alone at age 15 to New Bedford (married Jose da Silva, of San Miguel, 1897, in New

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Flores Genealogy/Andre de Freitas Luzia Rodrigues

2010-06-11 Thread John Vasconcelos
*Found another cousin. Katharine Baker and I have discovered some common ancestors. We share Andre de Freitas and Luzia Rois (Rodrigues), my 5G grandparents from Quada as common ancestors. They are listed as parents in the marriage of their daughter Isabel de Freitas to Manuel Martins (son of

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Flores Genealogy/Pimentel

2010-06-09 Thread Eric Gomes
: Monday, June 07, 2010 9:00 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Flores Genealogy/Pimentel Cindy, I may have a lead for you. My 4G grandparents, Ursula Pimentel born Santa Cruz Flores, married to Pedro de Freitas, born Mosteiro, Flores, married 17 June 1734 in Santa

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Flores Genealogy and Drinking Society

2010-06-07 Thread Cindy D - Searching Sylvia-Pimentel-Martin
Although I have not been able to find acutal documentation over there to prove it, my Pimentel side is from Flores, so pour me a glass and count me in!!! I know zero about Flores other than my mother has told me that her grandmother said it has a lot of flowers. Got a lucky break and found a

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Flores Genealogy/Pimentel

2010-06-07 Thread Tony Cardoso
: Monday, June 07, 2010 9:00 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Flores Genealogy/Pimentel Cindy, I may have a lead for you. My 4G grandparents, Ursula Pimentel born Santa Cruz Flores, married to Pedro de Freitas, born Mosteiro, Flores, married 17 June 1734 in Santa

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Flores Baptisms and Sao Miguel Passportes

2009-09-21 Thread Cheri Mello
Elaine, There are some pretty big gaps in the Sao Miguel passaportes. So if the passage is in the gap, sadly, the record doesn't exist :( The ports of Horta (closest to Flores) and of Angra are not yet online. -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Flores marriages

2009-06-04 Thread zainal arifin
thank 2009/5/31, eric edgar noblankt...@gmail.com: Joan, The Flores marriage book files the records by parish first , then list them alphabetically by grooms first name, then grooms last name. Give me the information that way and I'll look it up. Eric Edgar On Sat, May 30, 2009 at

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Flores marriages

2009-05-31 Thread Cheri Mello
Hi Joan, You might want to specify who you is as we have 650ish people on this list. Some people have books that they can do look ups in, but many are by first name. You should provide the whole name, dates, and a specific location, if possible. Your query would more likely get some type of

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Flores marriages

2009-05-31 Thread eric edgar
Joan, The Flores marriage book files the records by parish first , then list them alphabetically by grooms first name, then grooms last name. Give me the information that way and I'll look it up. Eric Edgar On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Joan Ertrachter joan...@sbcglobal.netwrote: Would

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Flores research

2009-05-25 Thread eric edgar
Elaine I did not find a listing for an Antonio Pedro and Maria da Gloria in the Flores and Covro Marriages book in any parish. I also did not find any listing in the Familias das Flores book Eric On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 11:47 AM, E Sharp bellema...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Listers, I am

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Flores

2009-05-15 Thread John Vasconcelos
Jones, Unfortunately, the earliest available records for Fajazinha, Flores date from the early 1700's.My mother was from Fajazinha and it has been very frustrating for me in tracing my family tree. The earliest records I have found for the Island of Flores were marriage records in Santa Cruz in

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Flores

2009-05-13 Thread jones guilherme neves filho
Freguesia Fajãzinha. Jones Guilherme 2009/5/10 Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com Jone, You did not give the freguesia. I do not research Flores. But those who do research Flores say there are missing records. Sometimes due to weather, or pirates, or many other things. Check the Family

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Flores

2009-03-20 Thread Marcia
This is an interesting trail of messages for me. When my husbands family left San Miguel in 1904 the passport and ships record identify them as Manoel and Gloria Jacinto (with 3 children) from Vila Franca do Campo. According to the ship record, they were sponsored by her brother Manuel

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Flores

2009-03-20 Thread E Sharp
Don't be too surprised. For some reason, our ancestors chose to use whatever name they so desired. My family is Victor, they came to this country as Machado!! Andre must have been another family name of theirs. In my case, I have yet to find a Machado in the bunch! We think it might be the

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Flores

2009-03-19 Thread jones guilherme neves filho
They should be. Have 56 years between their marriage (1821) and the birth of the eldest grandson in 1877. What is the relationship of the children of this couple (John and Catherine Jachinto)? And the parents of them, you have the names? Thanks for the feedback William Jones 2009/3/17 John

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Flores

2009-03-17 Thread John Vasconcelos
Are you sure of the dates? I have found a Joao Jacinto Rodrigues married to Catarina Maria 14 May 1821 Nossa Sra dos Remedios, Fajazinha Flores. John Vasconcelos On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 5:38 AM, jones guilherme neves filho jon...@ig.com.br wrote: Looking for: I am researching João Jachinto

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Flores

2009-03-17 Thread Besotes
Hello Jones Guilherme - Did you have any relatives of this line immigrate to the USA? I have Jacinto Rodrigues' who immigrated from the Azores to Boston, then California. Best regards, Robin Borba Besotes Researching: Bettencourt, Borba, Barbe, Da Rosa, Jacinto, Rodrigues, Mattos

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: FLORES

2009-03-16 Thread bellemarco
The 1870 Yreka CA census lists the following Joseph Francis 38, b. Western Islands, miner, Amelia 26, b. Western Islands, Mary 4, Joseph 1, also living with them is Joseph M. Silva 80 Miner, b. Western Islands (so they must have married about 1865. The 1880 census in Hawkinsville, CA census

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: FLORES

2009-03-16 Thread Marek Delacroix
To: Azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 10:29:48 PM Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: FLORES FRANCIS  could have originally been Francisco which is normally a first name but can be a surname. BRIO has me stumped. There is a surname Brindeiro on Flores but it is rather unlikely

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: FLORES

2009-03-15 Thread John Vasconcelos
FRANCIS could have originally been Francisco which is normally a first name but can be a surname. BRIO has me stumped. There is a surname Brindeiro on Flores but it is rather unlikely (but not impossible) that it would have been shortened to Brio. I'll have to think about that some more. John

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Flores Genealogy

2009-01-03 Thread gfsjohnv
Al, As far as I know, the Marriages book is his most recent. I am in email contact with a cousin on Flores. I can email her and find out if he has released any new books. John Vasaconcelos -Original Message- From: bigal...@aol.com To: Azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 1:32