[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Hammering on and snapping off

2011-09-02 Thread Mathias Rösel
This is not some 20th-century liberal revisionist view of history; it is the way music was taught in the Baroque period. Beyond acquiring the basic disciplines involved in learning to play their instruments, musicians based their choices of which articulations to use upon how tasteful and

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Hammering on and snapping off

2011-09-01 Thread William Samson
@cs.dartmouth.edu baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Thursday, 1 September 2011, 12:47 Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Hammering on and snapping off Absolutely. It suffices to look at the theorbo preludes of de Visee in the Saizenay Ms. Best, B On 1 September 2011 13:45, Rob MacKillop

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Hammering on and snapping off

2011-09-01 Thread Mathias Rösel
There was an interview with Nigel North in a recent issue of the LSA quarterly (xlv/2, summer 2010), where he referred to those written out final phrases with many flags in English manuscripts around 1600. IIRC he said that the fact that they are written out, doesn't mean you have to hit each note

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Hammering on and snapping off

2011-09-01 Thread Mathias Rösel
Samson willsam...@yahoo.co.uk; baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Thursday, 1 September 2011, 12:47 Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Hammering on and snapping off Absolutely. It suffices to look at the theorbo preludes of de Visee in the Saizenay Ms

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Hammering on and snapping off

2011-09-01 Thread William Samson
@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Thursday, 1 September 2011, 14:38 Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Hammering on and snapping off was a phrase in Vieux Gaultier's Tombeau de Mezangeau (bar 2, second third and fourth notes) that is a damn sight easier to play using hammer-on. To my biased ear

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Hammering on and snapping off

2011-09-01 Thread Christopher Wilke
Mathias, --- On Thu, 9/1/11, Mathias Rösel mathias.roe...@t-online.de wrote: The 1669 print was supervised by Gaultier himself. So it is safe to say that the tablature shows his intentions. At this particular place, however, it shows that no slur is intended since there is no slur sign.

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Hammering on and snapping off

2011-09-01 Thread Christopher Wilke
Mathias, --- On Thu, 9/1/11, Mathias Rösel mathias.roe...@t-online.de wrote: We will never know what exactly Denis Gaultier intended because we cannot ask him any more. Right. I tried calling but he must have turned his cell phone off. We may assume, however, that the tablature

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Hammering on and snapping off

2011-09-01 Thread Mathias Rösel
Dear Chris, pls keep trying to get in touch and tell us once you succeed. I should to ask him some questions. Right. We can not assume, however, that the print represents some pseudo- Platonic ultimate version that Gaultier set down for once and for all. (From what we know of 17th century

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Hammering on and snapping off

2011-09-01 Thread Nancy Carlin
If anyone who has not seen that interview with Nigel, would like a copy I have some spares. Snail mail only, so if you think I don't have your address include it. Nancy At 05:59 AM 9/1/2011, Mathias Roesel wrote: There was an interview with Nigel North in a recent issue of the

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Hammering on and snapping off

2011-09-01 Thread David R
On Sep 1, 2011, at 4:51 PM, Mathias Rösel wrote: Denis Gaultier was so highly respected as lute player and composer that the very text of his music was set down ... well, yes, once and for all. He doesn't serve as a model for those 17th century liberties that you claim, I'm afraid. Well

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Hammering on and snapping off

2011-09-01 Thread dyoung5...@wowway.com
The beautiful thing about galant era music is the detail they put in their scripts. They would notate a phrase with each note plucked then reiterate the phrase with einfalls or abzug noted as a variant voice, often with quot;pianoquot; notated so you don#39;t overplay the downbeat. They had