Thank you for that, Mathias. This list is a wonderful resource having people like yourself who are so familiar with the sources, and are also willing to share their knowledge.
All the best, Bill From: Mathias RAP:sel <mathias.roe...@t-online.de> To: baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Thursday, 1 September 2011, 14:38 Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Hammering on and snapping off > was a phrase in Vieux Gaultier's Tombeau de Mezangeau (bar 2, second > third and fourth notes) that is a damn sight easier to play using > hammer-on. To my biased ear it sounds more convincing too. That may be due to widespread 20th century recordings of that pavane. > In fact I > wonder if this might really be an ornament (from below) written out to > show exactly what the composer intended? The 1669 print was supervised by Gaultier himself. So it is safe to say that the tablature shows his intentions. At this particular place, however, it shows that no slur is intended since there is no slur sign. Gaultier explains in his introduction that the curved line below a letter is the sign for hammering-on (p. 4-5, #6: aEUR| qu'il faut laisser tomber quelque doigt de la main gauche). He uses this sign for technical legato as well as for port de voix. Sometimes, he extends the line to two or three letters. The next piece in that edition, Gigue du Vieux Gaultier (10-11) has such a slur sign in a similar situation in bar 3. Mathias > Best regards, > Bill > From: Benjamin Narvey <[1]luthi...@gmail.com> > To: Rob MacKillop <[2]robmackil...@gmail.com> > Cc: William Samson <[3]willsam...@yahoo.co.uk>; > "[4]baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu" <[5]baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu> > Sent: Thursday, 1 September 2011, 12:47 > Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Hammering on and snapping off > Absolutely. It suffices to look at the theorbo preludes of de Visee > in > the Saizenay Ms. > Best, > B > On 1 September 2011 13:45, Rob MacKillop > <[1][1][6]robmackil...@gmail.com> > wrote: > Possibly the straccini (spelling?) of the theorbists in the late > 1600s? The big question is whether slurs were used by Dowland and > his contemporaries. In later baroque, you do get passages with a > slur sign over many notes, especially in preludes. > Rob > [2]www.robmackillop.net > On 1 Sep 2011, at 12:29, William Samson > <[3][2][7]willsam...@yahoo.co.uk> > wrote: > > I'm curious to know when the playing of notes with left hand only > first > > appeared. Clearly it was used whenever there were graces to be > played, > > but what about written-out phrases? I have noticed there are > slur-like > > indications in later baroque lute music under phrases that lend > > themselves to left-hand-only playing. Is that the intent? > > > > Sorry if this is baby stuff, but I'm not terribly familiar with > the > > later sources. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Bill Samson > > > > -- > > > > > > To get on or off this list see list information at > > [4][3][8]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > -- > [5]www.luthiste.com > t +33 (0) 1 44 27 03 44 > p/m +33 (0) 6 71 79 98 98 > -- > References > 1. mailto:[4][9]robmackil...@gmail.com > 2. [5][10]http://www.robmackillop.net/ > 3. mailto:[6][11]willsam...@yahoo.co.uk > 4. [7][12]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/%7Ewbc/lute-admin/index.html > 5. [8][13]http://www.luthiste.com/ > > -- > > References > > 1. mailto:[14]robmackil...@gmail.com > 2. mailto:[15]willsam...@yahoo.co.uk > 3. [16]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > 4. mailto:[17]robmackil...@gmail.com > 5. [18]http://www.robmackillop.net/ > 6. mailto:[19]willsam...@yahoo.co.uk > 7. [20]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > 8. [21]http://www.luthiste.com/ -- References 1. mailto:luthi...@gmail.com 2. mailto:robmackil...@gmail.com 3. mailto:willsam...@yahoo.co.uk 4. mailto:baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu 5. mailto:baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu 6. mailto:robmackil...@gmail.com 7. mailto:willsam...@yahoo.co.uk 8. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 9. mailto:robmackil...@gmail.com 10. http://www.robmackillop.net/ 11. mailto:willsam...@yahoo.co.uk 12. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 13. http://www.luthiste.com/ 14. mailto:robmackil...@gmail.com 15. mailto:willsam...@yahoo.co.uk 16. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 17. mailto:robmackil...@gmail.com 18. http://www.robmackillop.net/ 19. mailto:willsam...@yahoo.co.uk 20. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 21. http://www.luthiste.com/
