Perl modules on Mac OS X

2004-01-13 Thread Jan Eden
Hi fellows, I have a funny problem: When installing my OS (Mac OS 10.3), I did not realize that the 'make' utility was part of the developer tools (which I did not install). Now neither the CPAN module nor the manual installation process for Perl modules work on my system - due to the missing '

RE: beginners Digest 10 Jan 2004 18:25:16 -0000 Issue 1962

2004-01-13 Thread Dar, Imran
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Re: Clearing Arrays

2004-01-13 Thread Ramprasad A Padmanabhan
Support wrote: Hi All I have this little memory blockage again. If I 'push' data from a database into an array to look/manipulate the data and then using the same array name, 'push' data into the array from another database, the data from the second DB file is added to the data of the first. How

Re: RFC: Package == class == object type

2004-01-13 Thread Gary Stainburn
On Monday 12 Jan 2004 9:48 pm, James Edward Gray II wrote: > On Jan 12, 2004, at 2:42 PM, Rob Dixon wrote: > > Hi Gary. > > > > I'm quite concerned about this thread. I think we could help you a > > lot more if we had a better grasp of the problem: instead we've been > > answering individual questi

Re: Clearing Arrays

2004-01-13 Thread neill . taylor
I thought this newsgroup was for beginners! Ramprasad A

RE: Clearing Arrays

2004-01-13 Thread Paul Kraus
I have read several perl books and that is a legitimate question. Why have a resource like this list if your going persuade people not to use it. I have ever seen this question asked. @array = ();# empty array Now it wouldn't hurt to check out learning perl or programming perl at http://safar

New to PERL and Need Help

2004-01-13 Thread KENNETH JANUSZ
I am new to the world of PERL and need help to get started. I have the book: "PERL for Oracle DBA's". But this has not helped me get started. My background is Oracle as a DBA. I have a good background with SQL*Plus and PL/SQL. On my home PC I have XP Prof. and Oracle 9.2. My Oracle support

Problems with Text::Iconv

2004-01-13 Thread Jan Eden
Hi, I just managed two install my first two modules, among them Text::Iconv. Now while the iconv utility works fine on my system, the module complains: dyld: perl Undefined symbols: /Library/Perl/5.8.1/darwin-thread-multi-2level/auto/Text/Iconv/Iconv.bundle undefined reference to _libiconv expe

RE: New to PERL and Need Help

2004-01-13 Thread Paul Kraus
Start with http://safari.oreilly.com Read learning perl. Quick and easy read. Perl dbi And programming perl. Read all of the perldoc FAQ's. Paul Kraus --- PEL Supply Company Network Administrator > -Original Message- > From: KENNETH JANUSZ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTEC

RE: New to PERL and Need Help

2004-01-13 Thread NYIMI Jose (BMB)
A good starting place is : http://learn.perl.org/ HTH, José. -Original Message- From: KENNETH JANUSZ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 2:57 PM To: PERL Beginners Subject: New to PERL and Need Help I am new to the world of PERL and need help to get started. I h

Re: Problems with Text::Iconv

2004-01-13 Thread Wiggins d Anconia
> Hi, > > I just managed two install my first two modules, among them Text::Iconv. Now while the iconv utility works fine on my system, the module complains: > > dyld: perl Undefined symbols: > /Library/Perl/5.8.1/darwin-thread-multi-2level/auto/Text/Iconv/Iconv.bundle undefined reference to _l

Question about subroutines....

2004-01-13 Thread Gabor Urban
Hi, Is it possible to write a subroutine in Perl which accepts an open file handle as parameter? At the moment it seems hopeless, but is it? Regards Gabaux Linux is like a wigwam: no gates, no windows, and an apache inside! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands,

Re: Problems with Text::Iconv

2004-01-13 Thread James Edward Gray II
On Jan 13, 2004, at 8:10 AM, Jan Eden wrote: Hi, I just managed two install my first two modules, among them Text::Iconv. Now while the iconv utility works fine on my system, the module complains: dyld: perl Undefined symbols: /Library/Perl/5.8.1/darwin-thread-multi-2level/auto/Text/Iconv/

RE: New to PERL and Need Help

2004-01-13 Thread Thomas Bätzler
KENNETH JANUSZ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> asked: > Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 2:57 PM > I am new to the world of PERL and need help to get started. [...] > Any help with books for beginners or web sites will be > greatly appreciated. Keep it very simple. Go grab ActiveState's Perl port for window

RE: Question about subroutines....

2004-01-13 Thread NYIMI Jose (BMB)
Yes it is ! C:\>perldoc -q "How do I pass filehandles between subroutines" Found in C:\Perl\lib\pod\perlfaq5.pod How can I make a filehandle local to a subroutine? How do I pass filehandles between subroutines? How do I make an array of filehandles? As of perl5.6, open() autovivifies file

Re: Problems with Text::Iconv

2004-01-13 Thread Wiggins d Anconia
> On Jan 13, 2004, at 8:10 AM, Jan Eden wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I just managed two install my first two modules, among them > > Text::Iconv. Now while the iconv utility works fine on my system, the > > module complains: > > > > dyld: perl Undefined symbols: > > /Library/Perl/5.8.1/darwin-th

Mysql.pm

2004-01-13 Thread Joe Stuart
I'm having problems with the Mysql.pm module. When I have the two statements $dbh = Mysql->connect($host,$database,$username,$password); my $sth = $dbh->query("insert into users values(NULL, 'Jon', 'Sterling', 'Doe', 24, '[EMAIL PROTECTED]')"); My problem is when I run it as root it works fine,

RFC: Prototyping, do or don't?

2004-01-13 Thread Dan Anderson
I am somewhat confused as to when to prototype a subroutine. Under the tips section Programming Perl makes the following points: 1. Prototyping can lead to inlined functions which increases the speed of commonly used functions. Prototype when you can. 2. As soon as somebody use

Re: RFC: Package == class == object type

2004-01-13 Thread James Edward Gray II
On Jan 13, 2004, at 6:24 AM, Gary Stainburn wrote: [snip background] 3) As everything else will be created from the Trainset instance, they will have a link to it. This will be stored as $self->{_OWNER}. This will then (hopefully) provide quick direct access to the Trainset variables (were Cla

Oreilly's "Learning Perl 3rd Edition"

2004-01-13 Thread u235sentinel
I'm nearly finished with this book (definitely excellent book!). Some items I need to review again (expressions will take some work). Afterwards I plan on moving upward and onward in perl. I'm curious if Oreilly's "Programming Perl" or "Perl Cookbook" would be good to jump into. Or is there

Re: Problems with Text::Iconv

2004-01-13 Thread Jan Eden
James Edward Gray II wrote: >Since you mentioned earlier that you forgot to install the developer >tools, let me just mention that I've ran into problems building things >without them, because of missing header files and the like. I'm not >saying that's your problem, I'm just sharing inform

threads in perl

2004-01-13 Thread Igor Ryaboy
Hi All! I am running a multithread program and threads may stuck. I need to be able to terminate those threads after some defined period of time. I can't use a detach because I don't want to leave this thread run forever and I can't use join because the thread never ends. Any ideas? Please help

Re: Oreilly's "Learning Perl 3rd Edition"

2004-01-13 Thread Wiggins d Anconia
> I'm nearly finished with this book (definitely excellent book!). Some items I need to review again (expressions will take some work). Afterwards I plan on moving upward and onward in perl. I'm curious if Oreilly's "Programming Perl" or "Perl Cookbook" would be good to jump into. Or is there

Re: RFC: Package == class == object type

2004-01-13 Thread Paul Johnson
>> 2) What I do with the data will obviously depend on the program using >> my >> object, but would probably be things like update the screen (Term, TK, >> Win32), or to send instructions to a control system (e.g. throw points >> on >> model railway). >> >> What is the best method to pass control

no digest

2004-01-13 Thread Dr. Irina Campbell
Hi- I subscribed to the beginners digest and receive a list of individual email attachments (~50) but none of them open with text... This is not the usual format for a digest listserve... can anyone debug this problem. many thnaks. Irina Campbell

Re: New to PERL and Need Help

2004-01-13 Thread Tim
Once you get the AS PERL working, use ppm or ppm3 (Perl Package Manager) to get DBI/DBD modules (DBD::Oracle) on your system. Connect and you're on your way. There is a book on this subject that will help, I've always found this link to help describe the length of the tunnel... http://www.yapc.o

Re: RFC: Package == class == object type

2004-01-13 Thread Gary Stainburn
On Tuesday 13 Jan 2004 3:04 pm, James Edward Gray II wrote: > On Jan 13, 2004, at 6:24 AM, Gary Stainburn wrote: > > [snip background] > > > 3) As everything else will be created from the Trainset instance, they > > will have a link to it. This will be stored as $self->{_OWNER}. This will > > then

Re: RFC: Package == class == object type

2004-01-13 Thread Wiggins d Anconia
> On Tuesday 13 Jan 2004 3:04 pm, James Edward Gray II wrote: > > On Jan 13, 2004, at 6:24 AM, Gary Stainburn wrote: > > I could reverse the parameter sequence so that the block type is first, then > allow multiple block names to be specified, thus reducing the work involved. > I'll probably

Re: RFC: Package == class == object type

2004-01-13 Thread James Edward Gray II
On Jan 13, 2004, at 10:39 AM, Gary Stainburn wrote: On Tuesday 13 Jan 2004 3:04 pm, James Edward Gray II wrote: On Jan 13, 2004, at 6:24 AM, Gary Stainburn wrote: 3) As everything else will be created from the Trainset instance, they will have a link to it. This will be stored as $self->{_OWNER}

Inheritance - was Re: RFC: Package == class == object type

2004-01-13 Thread Gary Stainburn
On Tuesday 13 Jan 2004 4:39 pm, Gary Stainburn wrote: > On Tuesday 13 Jan 2004 3:04 pm, James Edward Gray II wrote: > > On Jan 13, 2004, at 6:24 AM, Gary Stainburn wrote: [snip] > > > 1) I've put: > > > > > > use base (Trainset::Trains Trainset::Track Trainset::Signals > > > Trainset::Levers Tr

Using Getopt::Std

2004-01-13 Thread Perl
Hi, i am using the Getopt::Std package in my code. use Getopt::Std; getopts('s:'); $a = $opt_s this is how i run my program from command line " > my_program.pl -s pattern now if "pattern" is something like abcd[12] how do i make my program accept the index 12 as a part of the string for o

Re: RFC: Package == class == object type

2004-01-13 Thread Rob Dixon
Thanks, Gary and James, for this input: there's something to work with now. Beware though, Gary, you may have to steel yourself to throw away a lot of what you've written! Also, you've chosen something quite complex to model as an introduction to OO, so don't expect to make rapid progress! All of

decoding MIME:Base64 question?

2004-01-13 Thread Tino Arellano
Hello folks, If I encode a file with MIME::Base64 with the following script, encode_base64.pl. The question is; how do I decode the file? I use the following script, decode_base64.pl to decode back to the original source but that did not work because they are different from each other. Th

Re: Oreilly's "Learning Perl 3rd Edition"

2004-01-13 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
> "Wiggins" == Wiggins D Anconia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Wiggins> The two above overlap a good deal. The Alpaca and the Panther overlap in that they cover some similar ground. But the Alpaca is designed to be a step-by-step tutorial: in fact, it's a transcript of the course we teach (bo

Re: Problem with dereferencing of $_

2004-01-13 Thread Duan Toh
Hello all, testing the use of DBI. Having a problem (highlighted in red) with using "@$_" as the topic. When I use @row the program writes records as expected to test.txt but when I use the topic it only writes ... "" "" "" in the file. I have reread documentation to see if I am using @$_ co

Re: Inheritance - was Re: RFC: Package == class == object type

2004-01-13 Thread James Edward Gray II
On Jan 13, 2004, at 11:32 AM, Gary Stainburn wrote: I'm starting to confuse myself again now. Yes, you are. I've got it into my head that I'm going to have an instance of Trainset as a holder to contain track, signals etc, so I'll do something line: my $tset=Trainset->new; $tset->add_track('T

Re: Mysql.pm

2004-01-13 Thread Rob Dixon
Joe Stuart wrote: > > I'm having problems with the Mysql.pm module. When I have the two > statements > > $dbh = Mysql->connect($host,$database,$username,$password); > my $sth = $dbh->query("insert into users values(NULL, 'Jon', > 'Sterling', 'Doe', 24, '[EMAIL PROTECTED]')"); You don't need to esc

Re: Prototyping, do or don't?

2004-01-13 Thread Rob Dixon
Dan Anderson wrote: > > I am somewhat confused as to when to prototype a subroutine. Under the > tips section Programming Perl makes the following points: > > 1. Prototyping can lead to inlined functions which increases the speed > of commonly used functions. Prototype when you can. > > 2. As s

Re: Oreilly's "Learning Perl 3rd Edition"

2004-01-13 Thread Wiggins d Anconia
> > "Wiggins" == Wiggins D Anconia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Wiggins> The two above overlap a good deal. > > The Alpaca and the Panther overlap in that they cover some similar > ground. But the Alpaca is designed to be a step-by-step tutorial: in > fact, it's a transcript of the cou

Re: RFC: Package == class == object type

2004-01-13 Thread James Edward Gray II
On Jan 13, 2004, at 12:05 PM, Rob Dixon wrote: use base (Trainset::Trains Trainset::Track Trainset::Signals Trainset::Levers Trainset::Boxes); inside Trainset.pm. Is this the correct way to call in the other classes? No it's not. use Trainset::Trains; use Trainset::Track; use Trainset::Signals;

Re: Using Getopt::Std

2004-01-13 Thread Wiggins d Anconia
> Hi, > i am using the Getopt::Std package in my code. > > > use Getopt::Std; > > getopts('s:'); > > $a = $opt_s > > > this is how i run my program from command line " > > > my_program.pl -s pattern > > now if "pattern" is something like abcd[12] how do i > make my program accept the in

Re: Perl modules on Mac OS X

2004-01-13 Thread drieux
On Jan 12, 2004, at 11:34 PM, Jan Eden wrote: [..] Now here are my questions (finally): * Can someone on OS X put a copy of 'make' somewhere for me to download? * Is there anything else but the program itself to install? * Which is the standard path for make? (/usr/bin, I would guess, but I am n

Re: Oreilly's "Learning Perl 3rd Edition"

2004-01-13 Thread drieux
On Jan 13, 2004, at 7:11 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [..] I'm nearly finished with this book (definitely excellent book!). Some items I need to review again (expressions will take some work). Afterwards I plan on moving upward and onward in perl. I'm curious if Oreilly's "Programming Perl" or "P

Re: decoding MIME:Base64 question?

2004-01-13 Thread Wiggins d Anconia
> > Hello folks, > > If I encode a file with MIME::Base64 with the following script, encode_base64.pl. The question is; how do I decode > the file? I use the following script, decode_base64.pl to decode back to the original source but that did not work because > they are different from each o

Re: Using Getopt::Std

2004-01-13 Thread William.Ampeh
Put quotes around your arguments. Use single quotes if you are not doing variable substitution, and double quotes if otherwise. That is: my_program.pl -s 'will[1]' "$will" __ William Ampeh (x3939) Federal Reserve Board -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For a

Anti-Prototyping - Re: RFC: Prototyping, do or don't?

2004-01-13 Thread drieux
On Jan 13, 2004, at 6:59 AM, Dan Anderson wrote: [..] 1. Prototyping can lead to inlined functions which increases the speed of commonly used functions. Prototype when you can. 2. As soon as somebody uses your function in a way it wasn't supposed to be used, your program can explode. Never p

Re: Oreilly's "Learning Perl 3rd Edition"

2004-01-13 Thread Jan Eden
Randal L. Schwartz wrote: >> "Wiggins" == Wiggins D Anconia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >Wiggins> The two above overlap a good deal. > >The Alpaca and the Panther overlap in that they cover some similar >ground. But the Alpaca is designed to be a step-by-step tutorial: in >fact, it's a tr

Upgrading Perl linux 5.6 rpm to 5.8.2 source

2004-01-13 Thread Paul Kraus
On a Linux system how can I remove the 5.6 rpm and then install the 5.8.2 from source and still maintain dependencies? If something is looking for perl how do I make sure that it upgrades correctly? Paul Kraus --- PEL Supply Company Network Administrator --

Re: Upgrading Perl linux 5.6 rpm to 5.8.2 source

2004-01-13 Thread drieux
On Jan 13, 2004, at 1:02 PM, Paul Kraus wrote: On a Linux system how can I remove the 5.6 rpm and then install the 5.8.2 from source and still maintain dependencies? If something is looking for perl how do I make sure that it upgrades correctly? This is probably a bit odd, but why not skip the p

remove log files on win 2000 by date

2004-01-13 Thread zhaoxu zhang
Hi, does anyone have perl code to remove logfiles in log fold by date on wind 2000. I need to remove yeaterday and before yesterday logfiles on win 2000. your help is great appreciate. thanks jack __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the "Signing Bonus" Swee

decoding a base64 file?

2004-01-13 Thread Tino Arellano
Hello folks, If I encode a file with MIME::Base64 with the following script, encode_base64.pl. The question is; how do I decode the file? I use the following script, decode_base64.pl to decode back to the original source but that did not work. Thank you... --

Re: RFC: Package == class == object type

2004-01-13 Thread Gary Stainburn
On Tuesday 13 January 2004 6:38 pm, James Edward Gray II wrote: > On Jan 13, 2004, at 12:05 PM, Rob Dixon wrote: > >>> use base (Trainset::Trains Trainset::Track Trainset::Signals > >>> Trainset::Levers Trainset::Boxes); > >>> > >>> inside Trainset.pm. Is this the correct way to call in the other

Re: Inheritance - was Re: RFC: Package == class == object type

2004-01-13 Thread Gary Stainburn
On Tuesday 13 January 2004 6:17 pm, James Edward Gray II wrote: > On Jan 13, 2004, at 11:32 AM, Gary Stainburn wrote: > > I'm starting to confuse myself again now. > > Yes, you are. But hopefully lifting the vail a little at last. > > > I've got it into my head that I'm going to have an instance

Re: Inheritance - was Re: RFC: Package == class == object type

2004-01-13 Thread James Edward Gray II
On Jan 13, 2004, at 3:44 PM, Gary Stainburn wrote: Did that make any sense? Yes. While driving home I think I've discovered my biggest conceptual block. The idea of a Trainset class is as you know new. The idea was originally to have all code relating to track in the Trainset::Track class. Wha

redirect with cgi.pm

2004-01-13 Thread jdavis
Hello, I have been able to use redirects with cgi.pm as long as the redirect is the only thing in the script. i.e. #!/usr/bin/perl use CGI qw(:standard); print redirect('http://google.com/'); but what i need to do is print a bunch of html , have perl do a few jobs on my system, and then do a r

Re: Prototyping, do or don't?

2004-01-13 Thread drieux
On Jan 13, 2004, at 10:33 AM, Rob Dixon wrote: [..] Like I said, read what others have to say and adopt your own policy, but be consistent. Rob My only complaint is that the consistency position should be consistent within the context - either in an archeological sense - namely that if one finds co

mod_perl error

2004-01-13 Thread Kyle Sexton
I'm getting an error with a mod_perl script I'm working on that says this: error: [Tue Jan 13 10:59:17 2004] [error] 25297: ModPerl::Registry: Image::Imlib2 load error: No loader for file format at find.pl line 19. The script runs fine when it is at the command line, but when I run it from th

Re: Problem with dereferencing of $_

2004-01-13 Thread drieux
On Jan 13, 2004, at 10:12 AM, Duan Toh wrote: [..] while ($sel->fetchrow_array) { print OUTPUT '"'; print OUTPUT join '","', map {$_||0} @$_; print OUTPUT '"',"\n"; } [..] you might want to go back

strange sort order

2004-01-13 Thread Dan LaFlamme
Hi, I have a file that appears to be somewhat sorted, but is not sorted according to the traditional unix sort. I'll give some examples, and if anyone recgonizes the way in which the file is sorted, please let me know. Also, since I may have to write a comparator function for use on this "sort

Re: redirect with cgi.pm

2004-01-13 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
> "Jdavis" == Jdavis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Jdavis> I have been able to use redirects with cgi.pm as long Jdavis> as the redirect is the only thing in the script. First, this should be in the perl-cgi-beginners list instead of this list. Jdavis> i.e. Jdavis> #!/usr/bin/perl Jdavis> u

Re: strange sort order

2004-01-13 Thread Dan
Hi Shawn, Thanks for your script. I tried it out, and its not exactly right, so the data in my file appears not to conform to the numeric ordering. Your numeric sort gets all the examples I gave right except Set 5. The original ordering in the file is: 0908 09088122595 09088122595 0909-114 whe

Re: Using Getopt::Std

2004-01-13 Thread Hacksaw
> > > > Hi, > > i am using the Getopt::Std package in my code. > > > > > > use Getopt::Std; > > > > getopts('s:'); > > > > $a = $opt_s By the way, you don't really need to assign the $opt_x variables to a new variable. $opt_s will be persistant, unless you run getopt again, which would b