Re: sudo

2007-03-17 Thread Ag. Hatzimanikas
On Sat, Mar 17, at 01:13 Randy McMurchy wrote: Jonathan Oksman wrote these words on 03/17/07 12:36 CST: I'm certain that this restriction will no longer apply if compiled against PAM, I'll post back with the results. If all works well, perhaps PAM could be listed as a Recommended

Re: Dash.

2007-03-17 Thread Ag. Hatzimanikas
On Fri, Mar 16, at 05:46 Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: Ag. Hatzimanikas wrote: On Fri, Mar 16, at 01:48 Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: Ag. Hatzimanikas wrote: I didn't applied the debian patch since from what I've saw it's debian specific stuff (correct me if I am wrong). Correcting

Re: sudo

2007-03-17 Thread Ag. Hatzimanikas
On Sat, Mar 17, at 02:16 Randy McMurchy wrote: Ag. Hatzimanikas wrote these words on 03/17/07 13:51 CST: How else you run sudo? Without a password? Noway. Why? Maybe because it's a stupid idea? -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ: http

Re: sudo

2007-03-17 Thread Ag. Hatzimanikas
On Sat, Mar 17, at 09:38 Ag. Hatzimanikas wrote: On Sat, Mar 17, at 02:16 Randy McMurchy wrote: Ag. Hatzimanikas wrote these words on 03/17/07 13:51 CST: How else you run sudo? Without a password? Noway. Why? Maybe because it's a stupid idea? And because we set standards

Re: sudo

2007-03-17 Thread Ag. Hatzimanikas
On Sat, Mar 17, at 09:50 Ag. Hatzimanikas wrote: And because we set standards - and - everything we do, has to follow standards. If there is no standard, we make this standard. If there is something wrong with the standard we fix it. If it is outdated we update it. And perhaps a good

Re: Dash. [Was: Re: Exporting $PS1.]

2007-03-17 Thread Ag. Hatzimanikas
about dash, it was because, it doesn't use readline. And I think libedit is a replacement for readline library (with a BSD lisence). Correct me if I am wrong. On Πεμ, Μάρ 15, at 07:15 Dan Nicholson wrote: On 3/15/07, Ag. Hatzimanikas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I didn't create any symbbolic link

Re: Dash. [Was: Re: Exporting $PS1.]

2007-03-17 Thread Ag. Hatzimanikas
On Sun, Mar 18, at 01:01 Bruce Dubbs wrote: Ag. Hatzimanikas wrote: It make sense the compliant POSIX shell (Dash) to be the default sh shell. Are you saying that bash is not POSIX complaint? No of course not. I just noticed in the Ash page, that we have this link. So we can do the same

Re: Exporting $PS1.

2007-03-17 Thread Ag. Hatzimanikas
On Sat, Mar 17, at 09:32 David Jensen wrote: Ag. Hatzimanikas wrote: would rather see a different color prompt for the root (red) and for user (green maybe) - for obvious reasons. if [[ ${EUID} == 0 ]] ; then PS1='\e[0;[EMAIL PROTECTED]:\e[0;39m\w\$ ' else PS1='\e[0

Re: Dash.

2007-03-16 Thread Ag. Hatzimanikas
On Fri, Mar 16, at 01:48 Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: Ag. Hatzimanikas wrote: I didn't applied the debian patch since from what I've saw it's debian specific stuff (correct me if I am wrong). Correcting. There are 8 important patches under dash-0.5.3/debian/diff that get applied during

Re: Dash.

2007-03-16 Thread Ag. Hatzimanikas
On Παρ, Μάρ 16, at 05:46 Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: Ag. Hatzimanikas wrote: On Fri, Mar 16, at 01:48 Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: Ag. Hatzimanikas wrote: I didn't applied the debian patch since from what I've saw it's debian specific stuff (correct me if I am wrong). Correcting

Dash. [Was: Re: Exporting $PS1.]

2007-03-15 Thread Ag. Hatzimanikas
On Wed, Mar 14, at 02:46 Dan Nicholson wrote: On 3/14/07, Ag. Hatzimanikas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I keep bash around because I want the shell scripts to be portable, and sh emulation in zsh still is not perfect. If that's the only reason, then why not install a shell who's only

Re: Dash. [Was: Re: Exporting $PS1.]

2007-03-15 Thread Ag. Hatzimanikas
On Thu, Mar 15, at 07:15 Dan Nicholson wrote: You read my mind :) To the point where I was reading the post and I couldn't tell if some parts had actually been written by me and were a forward. Even though I'd never actually written those things. I am running a cronjob for Mind Rsync'ing'

Re: Dash

2007-03-15 Thread Ag. Hatzimanikas
On Thu, Mar 15, at 01:38 Randy McMurchy wrote: Randy McMurchy wrote these words on 03/15/07 12:09 CST: I'll apply this patch, Ag. Thanks. Done. Thanks Randy, I really appreciate it. Noted that there was no mention about a test suite, so I added a commented line as a reminder to do it. I

Re: Dash

2007-03-15 Thread Ag. Hatzimanikas
On Thu, Mar 15, at 02:39 Bruce Dubbs wrote: Ag. Hatzimanikas wrote: Oh and... about your question in your previous email: I will wait until next morning to see if there are any objections and then I will decide. In any case, I would like to be treated like a student. I think

Re: Dash. [Was: Re: Exporting $PS1.]

2007-03-15 Thread Ag. Hatzimanikas
On Thu, Mar 15, at 10:20 Dan Nicholson wrote: On 3/15/07, Bruce Dubbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dan Nicholson wrote: +1. Patch looks good to me. I'm curious to hear about the dropping Ash part of the equation from others, but I think Dash could be added regardless. I don't have

Re: Dash. [Was: Re: Exporting $PS1.]

2007-03-15 Thread Ag. Hatzimanikas
On Thu, Mar 15, at 10:15 Ag. Hatzimanikas wrote: I will attach one ~/.zshrc and ~/.zprofile. I need to add the attach word in the grep pattern, to cover some more possibilities. :) Here the files I promised. #{{{ CREDITS # Many thanks to (c) Michael Prokop [EMAIL PROTECTED

Exporting $PS1.

2007-03-11 Thread Ag. Hatzimanikas
I came across from a post by Bart Schaefer, one of the lead zsh developers. He clearly mentions that exporting the PS1 variable it doesn't make sense in modern shells. Bart Schaefer wrote: The use of export PS1 is sensible in the old Bourne shell and in a strictly POSIX shell, because there is

Re: fortune-mod

2007-03-08 Thread Ag. Hatzimanikas
On Thu, Mar 08, at 02:02 Randy McMurchy wrote: Ag. Hatzimanikas wrote: Aha,it seems that you have found your sense of humor again. Actually, I'm still the same guy. Just in a process of moving from the city to a country home on 2 acres. A wife of 25 years, 2 boys (one away

Re: A minor diff to update the vim patchlevel and a question.

2007-03-08 Thread Ag. Hatzimanikas
On Thu, Mar 08, at 06:44 M.Canales.es wrote: El Jueves, 8 de Marzo de 2007 07:31, Ag. Hatzimanikas escribió: I will create the ticket just to update the page then,unless someone has a good reason to move the vimrc contents into the vim.xml. IMHO, configurations used only by gvim should

Re: A minor diff to update the vim patchlevel and a question.

2007-03-07 Thread Ag. Hatzimanikas
On Τρι, Μάρ 06, at 02:22 Bruce Dubbs wrote: Ag. Hatzimanikas wrote: Now.I would like to update the vimrc page.I think it doesn't provide any serious enhancement as it claims. Those are good ideas, but we all have different ways of working. For example, below is mine. I don't use

Re: A minor diff to update the vim patchlevel and a question.

2007-03-07 Thread Ag. Hatzimanikas
On Wed, Mar 07, at 04:02 Bruce Dubbs wrote: The reason we put the vimrc file in BLFS was that the treatment was so thin in LFS. At the time we didn't have a vim page in BLFS. Oh I see,that make sense yes. But I don't know if that make sense today. I still think we should have the separate

Re: A minor diff to update the vim patchlevel and a question.

2007-03-07 Thread Ag. Hatzimanikas
On Thu, Mar 08, at 12:22 Bruce Dubbs wrote: Ag. Hatzimanikas wrote: On Wed, Mar 07, at 04:02 Bruce Dubbs wrote: The reason we put the vimrc file in BLFS was that the treatment was so thin in LFS. At the time we didn't have a vim page in BLFS. Oh I see,that make sense yes. But I

Re: fortune-mod

2007-03-07 Thread Ag. Hatzimanikas
On Thu, Mar 08, at 12:32 Randy McMurchy wrote: Thanks for your response, Alex. I'm swinging to the other side. If you want to add them, do it. I think (unlike Ag's views) that a package added to BLFS that is low maintenance, and has some value to other BLFS packages is worthwhile. I can

Re: fortune-mod

2007-03-07 Thread Ag. Hatzimanikas
On Thu, Mar 08, at 12:59 Randy McMurchy wrote: Ag. Hatzimanikas wrote: I can make you a good list of packages that are worthwhile and add a considering value to another package,like the 'live media' for MPlayer. I suppose in my recent exodus from BLFS mailing lists, I missed your

Re: A minor diff to update the vim patchlevel and a question.

2007-03-06 Thread Ag. Hatzimanikas
The missing attachments. Index: postlfs/editors/vim.xml === --- postlfs/editors/vim.xml (revision 6659) +++ postlfs/editors/vim.xml (working copy) @@ -67,7 +67,7 @@ itemizedlist spacing='compact' listitem

Re: A minor diff to update the vim patchlevel and a question.

2007-03-06 Thread Ag. Hatzimanikas
I made some adjustments which I think it looks a little better than the last one,so base your comments on this one. Index: postlfs/config/vimrc.xml === --- postlfs/config/vimrc.xml(revision 6656) +++ postlfs/config/vimrc.xml

Re: A minor diff to update the vim patchlevel and a question.

2007-03-06 Thread Ag. Hatzimanikas
On Tue, Mar 06, at 05:28 Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: Ag. Hatzimanikas wrote: +set guifont=DejaVu\ Sans\ Mono\ 12 Please don't specify any explicit font family (DejaVu fonts are wrong for, e.g., Japanese). If you want to specify the size only, please use the generic Monospace family

:Mutt/ffmpe and HTML tidy - Use Dev or Stable?

2007-02-17 Thread Ag. Hatzimanikas
On Σαβ, Φεβ 17, at 06:14 Ag. Hatzimanikas wrote: On Σαβ, Φεβ 17, at 03:43 BLFS Trac wrote: However, it just sends mixed signals to use a dev version when there is a stable version available, yet we are stuck using stable HTML Tidy and FFmpeg when even those package developers say

Re: Use development versions: HTML Tidy and FFmpeg

2007-02-17 Thread Ag. Hatzimanikas
On Σαβ, Φεβ 17, at 11:10 Dan Nicholson wrote: SNIP What do you guys think? Thanks for the backup Dan... and for the time that you have spent to do the analysis and the research that I didn't and I ought to. Apologize. Anyway,I think you already read/know my thoughts,so it doesn't left to me

Re: RFC: Build sizes rounded to nearest megabyte

2007-02-15 Thread Ag. Hatzimanikas
On Thu, Feb 15, at 01:05 Bruce Dubbs wrote: On 2/15/07, Randy McMurchy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, saying 269KB is a bit too much accuracy, in my opinion. :-) Probably. How about we do like the SBUs are done? If the build size is less than 1MB, then we put less than 1MB. Of

Re: Consolidated Tickets in Trac

2007-02-14 Thread Ag. Hatzimanikas
On Wed, Feb 14, at 12:45 Randy McMurchy wrote: Hi all, Sorry to be a stick-in-the-mud, and perhaps it's just me, but I don't like this lump everything in one ticket idea (using the BLFS-6.2.0 Text Changes ticket as an example). I find it difficult (if not impossible) to figure out: 1. What

Re: Consolidated Tickets in Trac

2007-02-14 Thread Ag. Hatzimanikas
On Wed, Feb 14, at 09:42 Tushar Teredesai wrote: On 2/14/07, Ag. Hatzimanikas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I would expect (at least in the future), from a bug-tracking technology is some kind of sub-tickets/threads. They are called meta bugs in mozilla's bugzilla. See https

Re: Consolidated Tickets in Trac

2007-02-14 Thread Ag. Hatzimanikas
On Wed, Feb 14, at 07:08 Matthew Burgess wrote: There's an open ticket for Trac regarding ticket dependencies and the like. I haven't looked into how much they've managed to implement yet or timescales for filling in the missing pieces but you can see it for yourself at

Re: MesaLib instructions

2007-02-11 Thread Ag. Hatzimanikas
On Sun, Feb 11, at 12:52 Randy McMurchy wrote: 8. I'm showing a significant difference in disk space used (The book shows 823MB, my logs show 157MB). Can anyone provide some additional info from their own logs? Exactly 157. Speaking about disk space sizes,I noticed some differences with

Permanent ticket for wrong links and typos.

2007-02-10 Thread Ag. Hatzimanikas
On Σαβ, Φεβ 10, at 12:02 Randy McMurchy wrote: Ag. Hatzimanikas wrote these words on 02/10/07 11:55 CST: Well,just see the Dead links ticket,which had worked quite well-I am speaking about the same kind of thing here. Wrong links and typos are good candidates for permanents tickets

Re: Vim testsuite

2007-02-10 Thread Ag. Hatzimanikas
On Σαβ, Φεβ 10, at 10:09 Dan Nicholson wrote: I noticed that we have no text for the testsuite in Vim. In LFS, we use `make test' and it spews a bunch of garbage to the screen. Is this still applicable in BLFS? I'd think it would be, but I don't know if the Optional dependencies change things.

Re: CBLFS

2007-01-14 Thread Ag. Hatzimanikas
On Thu, Jan 11, at 07:39 Randy McMurchy wrote: When folks fork a project, typically it is up front and center that it is forked code from another project. Typically, you don't have to scour through obscure pages (your license page which *nobody* will ever visit as an example) to find

Re: CBLFS

2007-01-14 Thread Ag. Hatzimanikas
On Sun, Jan 14, at 05:09 Joe Ciccone wrote: Ag. Hatzimanikas wrote: With that in mind and it's the third time I am writing this(I hope the last one),I would like to see BCLFS to be officially a part of BLFS and its developers as BLFS developers. And that is a proposal. What

Re: CBLFS

2007-01-14 Thread Ag. Hatzimanikas
On Sun, Jan 14, at 05:23 Randy McMurchy wrote: Ag. Hatzimanikas wrote these words on 01/14/07 17:10 CST: And that is a proposal. What the community has to say about this? I don't have a clue who all the devs at CBLFS are. They all use some stage-names. I know there's Jim, Jeremy U

Re: CBLFS

2007-01-14 Thread Ag. Hatzimanikas
On Sun, Jan 14, at 05:36 Randy McMurchy wrote: Ag. Hatzimanikas wrote these words on 01/14/07 17:29 CST: Forgive me that I speak to you in public like so,but I know that you have a thick skin. Did you say something I should be offended or upset about? If so, I suppose I missed

Re: CBLFS

2007-01-14 Thread Ag. Hatzimanikas
On Sun, Jan 14, at 05:53 Joe Ciccone wrote: Ag. Hatzimanikas wrote: So do you really agree with the wiki? I mean there is no credibility,you have to have some. It's in the page history. That is enough for me. I won't argue with you. I simple don't believe to the wiki

Re: CBLFS

2007-01-13 Thread Ag. Hatzimanikas
On Σαβ, Ιαν 13, at 02:40 Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: * reiserfsprogs-3.6.19: fails to build with LFS SVN. Please install asm/unaligned.h with linux headers in LFS. Alexander, you are the man! Jump in and do what you think is best. This (as far as I understand, and as implemented

Re: CBLFS

2007-01-13 Thread Ag. Hatzimanikas
On Σαβ, Ιαν 13, at 03:30 Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: Ag. Hatzimanikas wrote: 1. http://linuxfromscratch.org/pipermail/patches/2006-October/003347.html Thanks, do you know any other package that breaks because of asm/unaligned.h? I believe it's the only one. 2. http

Re: CBLFS

2007-01-13 Thread Ag. Hatzimanikas
On Σαβ, Ιαν 13, at 03:38 Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: 2. http://lostclus.linux.kiev.ua/patches/all/vim70-langmapmb-4.patch Yes, I see how this can be useful. But there are other vim patches with similar names there, what's the difference? What's the

Re: BLFS package repo

2007-01-13 Thread Ag. Hatzimanikas
On Σαβ, Ιαν 13, at 03:40 Bruce Dubbs wrote: Randy McMurchy wrote: Randy McMurchy wrote these words on 01/13/07 15:20 CST: Is there anything I can do to help determine what all packages still need to be updated? Justin, As I think about this I'm wondering if you can't maintain a

Re: BLFS package repo

2007-01-13 Thread Ag. Hatzimanikas
Attached is the package list. 01-list.xml.sh Description: Bourne shell script -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page

Re: BLFS package repo

2007-01-13 Thread Ag. Hatzimanikas
Now I see there is a problem also with the xorg packages. -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page

Re: BLFS package repo

2007-01-13 Thread Ag. Hatzimanikas
On Κυρ, Ιαν 14, at 12:56 Ag. Hatzimanikas wrote: Now I see there is a problem also with the xorg packages. Ops,sorry this hasn't to be a problem,since there are some wget.lists in the book for the various xorg packages. -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ: http

cleanlinks (Imake).

2006-12-19 Thread Ag. Hatzimanikas
Hi All, cleanlinks is a small script which checks for dangling symbolic links and empty directories (and removes them if finds any),that is get installed by Imake. However the syntax is wrong and will remove symbolic links that point to directories,which is not the expected behavior. See,

Re: cleanlinks (Imake).

2006-12-19 Thread Ag. Hatzimanikas
On Tue, Dec 19, at 06:59 Randy McMurchy wrote: Ag. Hatzimanikas wrote these words on 12/19/06 18:56 CST: cleanlinks is a small script which checks for dangling symbolic links and empty directories (and removes them if finds any),that is get installed by Imake. Pardon my ignorance

Re: cleanlinks (Imake).

2006-12-19 Thread Ag. Hatzimanikas
On Tue, Dec 19, at 07:13 Randy McMurchy wrote: Ag. Hatzimanikas wrote these words on 12/19/06 19:08 CST: It belongs to the Imake package and should be present in your system (I believe). which cleanlinks Yes. Thanks. Question is: Does it do what it is meant to do? (does

Re: cleanlinks (Imake).

2006-12-19 Thread Ag. Hatzimanikas
On Tue, Dec 19, at 07:19 Randy McMurchy wrote: Ag. Hatzimanikas wrote these words on 12/19/06 18:56 CST: Anyway the script a.it's not safe (don't try to do cleanlinks --help,if you are in a dir with some symbolic links to directories) This one is hard to swallow. Using unsupported

Re: cleanlinks (Imake).

2006-12-19 Thread Ag. Hatzimanikas
On Tue, Dec 19, at 07:38 Randy McMurchy wrote: Ag. Hatzimanikas wrote these words on 12/19/06 19:28 CST: My opinion is that it doesn't have to be in any system,so it has to be removed. But then there would be many, many, many programs which are installed by various packages, but doesn't

Re: mutt 1.5.12

2006-08-10 Thread Ag. Hatzimanikas
On Τετ, Αύγ 09, at 09:52 Dan Nicholson wrote: Actually, it was Archaic who was running 1.5.11 and came in with an emphatic it's been stable for months or something similar. If you can believe that. That's plain wrong. :) He is running an old stable 1.4.* something. Thank god,he didn't

Re: mutt 1.5.12

2006-08-09 Thread Ag. Hatzimanikas
Hi Miguel, On Wed, Aug 09, at 05:12 Miguel Bazdresch wrote: Recently I saw a patch for a vulnerability in mutt 1.5.11. Wouldn't it be better to upgrade to 1.5.12? I think that too and I am the one who submitted the patch!. :) But... The first thing that we have to know,is that no one from

Re: Mutt dependencies.

2006-05-27 Thread Ag Hatzimanikas
On Sat, May 27, at 12:40:02 Ag Hatzimanikas wrote: Hi All, Some more (Optional) dependencies for mutt. libxslt and lynx or w3m are required to build the html and text documentation. #---# xsltproc --nonet -o manual.html html.xsl manual.xml xsltproc --nonet

Mutt dependencies.

2006-05-26 Thread Ag Hatzimanikas
Hi All, Some more (Optional) dependencies for mutt. libxslt and lynx or w3m are required to build the html and text documentation. #---# xsltproc --nonet -o manual.html html.xsl manual.xml xsltproc --nonet chunk.xsl manual.xml lynx -dump -nolist -with_backspaces

Re: [Mplayer] /dev/dvd link

2006-05-22 Thread Ag Hatzimanikas
Randy McMurchy([EMAIL PROTECTED])@Mon, May 22, 2006 at 03:37:21PM -0500: Ag Hatzimanikas wrote these words on 05/22/06 15:36 CST: Just a reminder. The best way to throw in a reminder is to open a ticket in Trac. Guilty. :) Then, a reminder will never be required again, and the item

Re: Former Xorg items

2006-05-17 Thread Ag Hatzimanikas
TheOldFellow([EMAIL PROTECTED])@Wed, May 17, 2006 at 08:30:02AM +0100: Bruce Dubbs wrote: BTW, you seem to always pick the hard things: Java, OO, Xorg7. I appreciate what you do. and he ain't the only one. R. Richard stop spamming the list :) By the way,of course he ain't the only

[Mplayer] /dev/dvd link

2006-05-15 Thread Ag Hatzimanikas
Sorry if this is a duplicate message,I hope not...if so delete it. The current instructions to create a dvd link to the Mplayer page are incompatible with the current LFS/udev. Also I wonder if it is wise to put everything that has to do with device creation/udev-rules in a single page in

Re: xorg7

2006-05-10 Thread Ag Hatzimanikas
Randy McMurchy([EMAIL PROTECTED])@Tue, May 09, 2006 at 08:25:54PM -0500: I went 6.9.0. Why do the hard to get the same as the easy? Don't take this the wrong way, but at this point installing 7.0 is just plain dumb, or one is a glutton for punishment, or one is getting his scripts in order.

Re: vim: gtk1 dependency

2006-05-10 Thread Ag Hatzimanikas
Bruce Dubbs([EMAIL PROTECTED])@Tue, May 09, 2006 at 11:13:56PM -0500: Tushar Teredesai wrote: Hi: For vim, is there any reason for not mentioning the optional gtk1 dependency? Don't know. Does that apply to vim7? Yes you can still link vim-7 against gtk1,but the question is. Do we