Re: [BlindHandyMan] installing a ceiling fan-the tricky part

2009-08-15 Thread Scott Howell
> spray on, even though it is thick and globby. > Blessings, > Tom > > -Original Message- > From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]on Behalf Of Scott Howell > Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 8:03 AM > To: blindhandyman@yahoogrou

RE: [BlindHandyMan] installing a ceiling fan-the tricky part

2009-08-15 Thread Tom Vos
sings, Tom -Original Message- From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]on Behalf Of Scott Howell Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 8:03 AM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] installing a ceiling fan-the tricky part T

Re: [BlindHandyMan] installing a ceiling fan-the tricky part

2009-08-14 Thread Scott Howell
Thanks Tom, the patching will begin soon and certainly was the easiest in the end. On Aug 10, 2009, at 10:14 PM, Tom Vos wrote: > Scott, > Occasionally I've been able to fish wires through from opposite > directions, > with hooks on the end and hook them together and pull one all the way > thr

Re: [BlindHandyMan] installing a ceiling fan-the tricky part

2009-08-14 Thread Scott Howell
to:darrin.por...@united-mar.comm> > > > From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com > ] On Behalf Of Scott Howell > Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 11:31 AM > To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [BlindHand

Re: [BlindHandyMan] installing a ceiling fan-the tricky part

2009-08-11 Thread Spiro
it was a very big graduating class, and there are many classes behind yours from that school. I still have the jacket in my closet. (grins) On Mon, 10 Aug 2009, Dan Rossi wrote: > Scott, > > Thank you so very much for your original post describing your ceiling fan > project. I will be sendi

RE: [BlindHandyMan] installing a ceiling fan-the tricky part

2009-08-10 Thread Tom Vos
Scott, Occasionally I've been able to fish wires through from opposite directions, with hooks on the end and hook them together and pull one all the way through. But in your application, I think I'd make a hole in the ceiling above the switch and do a patch job later. But if the remote control woul

Re: [BlindHandyMan] installing a ceiling fan-the tricky part

2009-08-10 Thread Spiro
keep the dust from migrating in the air. Most minimal clean room application. This is why the drop cloth for a blind painter is a real pain. Just step in that which the drop cloth is meant to do, and then keep walking and you've *blown it! Grumble grumble. But even a drop cloth before a doorway

RE: [BlindHandyMan] installing a ceiling fan-the tricky part

2009-08-10 Thread Darrin Porter
..@united-mar.comm> From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Howell Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 11:31 AM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] installing a ceiling fan-the tricky part Well if I had the sense

Re: [BlindHandyMan] installing a ceiling fan-the tricky part

2009-08-10 Thread Scott Howell
Well if I had the sense to think this through, I would have saved some holez. THanks for the tip for my next project. The only problem is I would have needed to make one hole close to the area where the switch was. I had no idea how to fish the wire up the wall, into the hole, and than p

Re: [BlindHandyMan] installing a ceiling fan-the tricky part

2009-08-10 Thread Scott Howell
You bet, always glad to share experiences. After all, my wife for as much as I love the woman, sometimes just doesn't see the end result when compared against the effort to get there and assumes there shouldn't be a lot of cleanup or potential painting to be done once I've made the mess.

RE: [BlindHandyMan] installing a ceiling fan-the tricky part

2009-08-10 Thread Darrin Porter
Scott, My long drill bit (6-ft.) drills a ¾-in. hole. I have used it to drill through three wall studs. That was a pain, but I managed to get it done without punching out of the wall. It has a very sharp pilot point on the tip which I can stab into each stud in turn. It will not slip around

Re: [BlindHandyMan] installing a ceiling fan-the tricky part

2009-08-10 Thread Dan Rossi
Scott, Thank you so very much for your original post describing your ceiling fan project. I will be sending it off to my wife to show her that I am not alone in project issues. Your description matches my experiences word for word. Starting a project thinking it can't be that difficult. Pur

Re: [BlindHandyMan] installing a ceiling fan-the tricky part

2009-08-09 Thread Scott Howell
Yep, that is the route I intend to go once I get the materials to patch. A very good idea and thanks. I think my wife now really understands that no project ever goes completely smooth, rarely ever results in no mess, and seemingly takes longer and develops your vocabulary. On Aug 9, 2009, at

RE: [BlindHandyMan] installing a ceiling fan-the tricky part

2009-08-08 Thread Spiro
if the popcorn is truly coarse, you could hang dropclothes and make a chamber when spraying. Remove the hooks and no one will see the little holes. On Sat, 8 Aug 2009, Tom Vos wrote: > Scott, > Would it be possible to use a thin rodd -- smaller than the drill bit you > used, to poke a wire

Re: [BlindHandyMan] installing a ceiling fan-the tricky part

2009-08-08 Thread Scott Howell
No sir, unfortunately not. SO, many hours later, a great deal of cursing, and a lot of rewiring of the switch I got all wrong , I finally now have one ceiling fan installed, a double switch controlling the light on the fan and the light that is on the wall, and several holes to patch. Des

Re: [BlindHandyMan] installing a ceiling fan-the tricky part

2009-08-08 Thread Brice
Did you happen to find any wires after punching your hole? We added a ceiling fan a fews years back and found some live wires, so we tapped into them and added a remote control to operate both fan and lights. Sure did beat trying to fish wires to the wall where we would have to have added ano

Re: [BlindHandyMan] installing a ceiling fan-the tricky part

2009-08-08 Thread Scott Howell
ire day commitment for a chicken. > - A Lifetime Commitment for a Pig > - Original Message ----- > From: "Scott Howell" > To: > Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2009 4:35 AM > Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] installing a ceiling fan-the tricky part > > Hey Bill, yep,

Re: [BlindHandyMan] installing a ceiling fan-the tricky part

2009-08-08 Thread Scott Howell
Hey Tom, thanks that is really helpful. I don't know about the string etc. I have a fish tape, which would be a little firmer, but I've got a few ideas to try before I start busting more holes. The good news is you provided the info on the popcorn material that will help with patching etc.

Re: [BlindHandyMan] installing a ceiling fan-the tricky part

2009-08-08 Thread Bill Gallik
ect: Re: [BlindHandyMan] installing a ceiling fan-the tricky part Hey Bill, yep, got the switch that actually controls a light that is on the wall of all crazy things. Not sure why the previous owner did this, but really does nothing for providing light and well I have the extra fan and light

RE: [BlindHandyMan] installing a ceiling fan-the tricky part

2009-08-08 Thread Tom Vos
Scott, Would it be possible to use a thin rodd -- smaller than the drill bit you used, to poke a wire or string through the series of holes you drilled? If you can get the string through, or a small wire, you could then pull the Romex through. Also, if you have to patch the ceiling, you can buy an

Re: [BlindHandyMan] installing a ceiling fan-the tricky part

2009-08-08 Thread Scott Howell
Yeah, thanks for the tips and actually I've got a proper fan box. This one is on a bar that twists so you can slap a wrench on it and turn tilll it puts enough pressure to hold and I mean hold so you could swing on it. I used one of these in my town house, but there the joists ran the way

Re: [BlindHandyMan] installing a ceiling fan-the tricky part

2009-08-08 Thread Scott Howell
Hey Bill, yep, got the switch that actually controls a light that is on the wall of all crazy things. Not sure why the previous owner did this, but really does nothing for providing light and well I have the extra fan and light kit. I thought about the external wiring deal, but that didn'

Re: [BlindHandyMan] installing a ceiling fan-the tricky part

2009-08-07 Thread Bob Kennedy
Unfortunately there is no easy fix when retro fitting electrical lines. I've seen some different long drill bits like you have but I don't know the diameter and that will be important since it has to be larger than the 14 gauge you'll need to be running. One bit of good luck for you cutting

Re: [BlindHandyMan] installing a ceiling fan-the tricky part

2009-08-07 Thread Bill Gallik
Correct me if I am wrong, but it sounds as if you are trying to add a fixture in a ceiling that has a floor for another room above it? By the way, as for the dust, the vacuum attachment is good but to make things even more palatable to the little lady try laying a plastic tarp under the work area.