Re: [steering-discuss] addition to trademark policy

2011-08-18 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hello, Florian Effenberger wrote on 2011-08-12 11:02: if we do so, are there any objections to my proposed trademark policy change? Here it is again for convenience: the changes are now in effect. Florian -- Florian Effenberger Steering Committee and Founding Member of The Document Foundati

Re: [steering-discuss] addition to trademark policy

2011-08-17 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi, Michael Meeks wrote on 2011-08-16 16:16: So - FWIW, IMHO all of this is a bit over complicated; the more text we add the weaker the policy. I would personally rather prefer to subset our TM policy to the name 'LibreOffice' and the associated marks; and then have some other blurb abou

Re: [steering-discuss] addition to trademark policy

2011-08-16 Thread Michael Meeks
On Fri, 2011-08-12 at 11:02 +0200, Florian Effenberger wrote: > if we do so, are there any objections to my proposed trademark policy > change? Here it is again for convenience: So - FWIW, IMHO all of this is a bit over complicated; the more text we add the weaker the policy. I would per

Re: [steering-discuss] addition to trademark policy

2011-08-12 Thread Simon Phipps
On 12 Aug 2011, at 10:02, Florian Effenberger wrote: > Hi, > > Caolan McNamara wrote on 2011-08-11 12:26: >> Alright, swap the logos, default to non TDF one. > > if we do so, are there any objections to my proposed trademark policy change? > Here it is again for convenience: > > old version:

Re: [steering-discuss] addition to trademark policy

2011-08-12 Thread Paulo de Souza Lima
It seems very fine to me!!! Great work!!! 2011/8/12 Florian Effenberger > Hi, > > Caolan McNamara wrote on 2011-08-11 12:26: > >> Alright, swap the logos, default to non TDF one. >> > > if we do so, are there any objections to my proposed trademark policy > change? Here it is again for convenien

Re: [steering-discuss] addition to trademark policy

2011-08-12 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi, Caolan McNamara wrote on 2011-08-11 12:26: Alright, swap the logos, default to non TDF one. if we do so, are there any objections to my proposed trademark policy change? Here it is again for convenience: old version: == Proper Form: TDF marks should be used in their exact form, neither

off-list Re: [steering-discuss] addition to trademark policy

2011-08-11 Thread Tom Davies
August, 2011 7:08:01 Subject: Re: [steering-discuss] addition to trademark policy Hi Tom, all! A quick note ... mis-using the steering-discuss being an SC deputy. Am Mittwoch, den 10.08.2011, 10:35 +0100 schrieb Tom Davies: > Sounds good to me but i'm curious about the Branding Team'

Re: [steering-discuss] addition to trademark policy

2011-08-11 Thread Caolan McNamara
On Wed, 2011-08-10 at 14:31 +0200, Thorsten Behrens wrote: > Caolan McNamara wrote: > > > > Imho quite easy to resolve: use the community logos per default for > > > > builds > > > > from source. Enable the Logo with TDF tagline on build time and tell > > > > people > > > > to use this only when

Re: [steering-discuss] addition to trademark policy

2011-08-11 Thread Andre Schnabel
Hi, > Von: Charles-H. Schulz > > I'd +1 Thorsten's short summary, but does it work with Debian rules? yes - it daoes, bacuse ... > Le 10 août 2011 14:34, "Thorsten Behrens" a > écrit : > > > > The tm rule then boils down to: stuff from the official tdf/libo > > website - TDF mark permitted. S

Re: [steering-discuss] addition to trademark policy

2011-08-10 Thread Christoph Noack
d tagline logo more consistent. Cheers, Christoph > From: Florian Effenberger > To: steering-discuss@documentfoundation.org > Sent: Wed, 10 August, 2011 9:25:05 > Subject: Re: [steering-discuss] addition to trademark policy > > Hi, > >

Re: [steering-discuss] addition to trademark policy

2011-08-10 Thread Tom Davies
Subject: Re: [steering-discuss] addition to trademark policy On Wed, 2011-08-10 at 17:06 +0200, Florian Effenberger wrote: > Hi, > > Tom Davies wrote on 2011-08-10 16:45: > > if it could be that simple then it would be easy to give quick answers to > > requests. I'm not

Re: [steering-discuss] addition to trademark policy

2011-08-10 Thread drew
On Wed, 2011-08-10 at 17:06 +0200, Florian Effenberger wrote: > Hi, > > Tom Davies wrote on 2011-08-10 16:45: > > if it could be that simple then it would be easy to give quick answers to > > requests. I'm not sure what the relevance of Debian is. > > > > > > Could there be an agreement now to al

Re: [steering-discuss] addition to trademark policy

2011-08-10 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi, Tom Davies wrote on 2011-08-10 16:45: if it could be that simple then it would be easy to give quick answers to requests. I'm not sure what the relevance of Debian is. Could there be an agreement now to allow any distro in the top 100 (or just top 50?) at DistroWatch http://distrowatch

Re: [steering-discuss] addition to trademark policy

2011-08-10 Thread Tom Davies
s-H. Schulz To: steering-discuss@documentfoundation.org Sent: Wed, 10 August, 2011 15:10:20 Subject: Re: [steering-discuss] addition to trademark policy I'd +1 Thorsten's short summary, but does it work with Debian rules? Best, Charles. Le 10 août 2011 14:34, "Thorsten Behrens"

Re: [steering-discuss] addition to trademark policy

2011-08-10 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
I'd +1 Thorsten's short summary, but does it work with Debian rules? Best, Charles. Le 10 août 2011 14:34, "Thorsten Behrens" a écrit : > Caolan McNamara wrote: >> > > Imho quite easy to resolve: use the community logos per default for builds >> > > from source. Enable the Logo with TDF tagline

Re: [steering-discuss] addition to trademark policy

2011-08-10 Thread drew
On Wed, 2011-08-10 at 14:31 +0200, Thorsten Behrens wrote: > Caolan McNamara wrote: > > > > Imho quite easy to resolve: use the community logos per default for > > > > builds > > > > from source. Enable the Logo with TDF tagline on build time and tell > > > > people > > > > to use this only when

Re: [steering-discuss] addition to trademark policy

2011-08-10 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Hmm I still think our subline would be valuable for gnu/linux distributions. We may insert our previous language I think. Charles. Le 10 août 2011 10:25, "Florian Effenberger" a écrit : > Hi, > > Andre Schnabel wrote on 2011-08-08 13:17: >> ... our default logos in the source tree use the TDF tag

Re: [steering-discuss] addition to trademark policy

2011-08-10 Thread Caolan McNamara
On Wed, 2011-08-10 at 10:25 +0200, Florian Effenberger wrote: > Hi, > > Andre Schnabel wrote on 2011-08-08 13:17: > > ... our default logos in the source tree use the TDF tagline (at least this > > was when I last did a build from source), but the tagged logo should > > be used for "instance on ..

Re: [steering-discuss] addition to trademark policy

2011-08-10 Thread Tom Davies
ng-discuss] addition to trademark policy Hi, Andre Schnabel wrote on 2011-08-08 13:17: > ... our default logos in the source tree use the TDF tagline (at least this > was when I last did a build from source), but the tagged logo should > be used for "instance on .. software builds

Re: [steering-discuss] addition to trademark policy

2011-08-10 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi, Andre Schnabel wrote on 2011-08-08 13:17: ... our default logos in the source tree use the TDF tagline (at least this was when I last did a build from source), but the tagged logo should be used for "instance on .. software builds compiled by the Document Foundation". Imho quite easy to res

Re: [steering-discuss] addition to trademark policy

2011-08-08 Thread Andre Schnabel
Hi, > Von: "Charles-H. Schulz" > > Hmm, if that confuses you, it will confuse otgers. I htink, what is confusing here is that ... > Le 8 août 2011 11:50, "Caolan McNamara" a écrit : > > > > I'm not super-attached to the TDF tagline for distro/personal builds, > > but I am attached to using t

Re: [steering-discuss] addition to trademark policy

2011-08-08 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Caolan, Hmm, if that confuses you, it will confuse otgers. Florian, any chance we may come up with a cleare sentence? (am on my phone on vacations). Thank you, Charles. Le 8 août 2011 11:50, "Caolan McNamara" a écrit : > On Sat, 2011-08-06 at 18:43 +0200, Charles-H. Schulz wrote: >> Caolan, >>

Re: [steering-discuss] addition to trademark policy

2011-08-08 Thread Caolan McNamara
On Sat, 2011-08-06 at 18:43 +0200, Charles-H. Schulz wrote: > Caolan, > > I think we got that covered already in the text... Or am I wrong? I thought it was such that the default logos (with TDF on it) could be used under the "substantially unchanged" concept. But on re-reading, it reads more lik

Re: [steering-discuss] addition to trademark policy

2011-08-07 Thread Tom Davies
ering-discuss] addition to trademark policy Hi, Tom Davies wrote on 2011-08-06 13:54: > Has the marketing or Branding team (or reps here) approved of either this > version or the original? Since both have very much the same meanings i think > approval of either would be good enough. eve

Re: [steering-discuss] addition to trademark policy

2011-08-07 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi, Tom Davies wrote on 2011-08-06 13:54: Has the marketing or Branding team (or reps here) approved of either this version or the original? Since both have very much the same meanings i think approval of either would be good enough. everyone involved should be subscribed to the steering-dis

Re: [steering-discuss] addition to trademark policy

2011-08-06 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Caolan, I think we got that covered already in the text... Or am I wrong? Best, Charles. Le 6 août 2011 16:13, "Caolan McNamara" a écrit : > On Sat, 2011-08-06 at 12:47 +0200, Florian Effenberger wrote: >> The logos that bear the exact mention of >> the software name with the mention "The Docum

Re: [steering-discuss] addition to trademark policy

2011-08-06 Thread Caolan McNamara
On Sat, 2011-08-06 at 12:47 +0200, Florian Effenberger wrote: > The logos that bear the exact mention of > the software name with the mention "The Document Foundation" are > reserved for two purposes: > > * the sole and official use of TDF as an entity, for instance on splash > screens from sof

Re: [steering-discuss] addition to trademark policy

2011-08-06 Thread Tom Davies
orian Effenberger To: steering-discuss@documentfoundation.org Sent: Sat, 6 August, 2011 11:47:53 Subject: [steering-discuss] addition to trademark policy Hello, my other task from the last SC calls was to add a note to the trademark policy that helps in understanding when the subline can be used

[steering-discuss] addition to trademark policy

2011-08-06 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hello, my other task from the last SC calls was to add a note to the trademark policy that helps in understanding when the subline can be used. My proposed change follows: old version: == Proper Form: TDF marks should be used in their exact form, neither abbreviated nor combined with any oth