RE: Alpha Mails (fun with SQL - L3ish)

2003-01-16 Thread Nick Arnett
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On > Behalf Of Dan Minette > Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 9:33 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Alpha Mails (fun with SQL - L3ish) > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Nick Arnett" <[EMAIL PROTECT

Re: Alpha Mails (fun with SQL - L3ish)

2003-01-16 Thread Medievalbk
> this three-way argument Zm? ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Alpha Mails (fun with SQL - L3ish)

2003-01-16 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: "Nick Arnett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 10:50 PM Subject: RE: Alpha Mails (fun with SQL - L3ish) > It just means that the close is 5 seconds slower... deterioration of the DNA > encoding and all that. Nick, ha

Re: The United States of America has gone mad

2003-01-16 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: "Dan Minette" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 10:08 PM Subject: Re: The United States of America has gone mad > > - Original Message - > From: "Robert Seeberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Turkish Reluctance

2003-01-16 Thread Julia Thompson
Doug Pensinger wrote: > > >http://www.nytimes.com/2003/01/09/international/middleeast/09ALLI.html?todaysheadlines > > The Turks would probably help us out if they didn't think that by doing > so the Kurds would get their way. I read the article, and I didn't see anything about Kurds. Can you e

Re: SCOUTED: "Doc Knows Best" (It'll be too late for you, ifhe's wrong.)

2003-01-16 Thread Julia Thompson
"Ronn! Blankenship" wrote: > > At 09:19 PM 1/9/03 -0500, Erik Reuter wrote: > >On Thu, Jan 09, 2003 at 07:40:37PM -0600, Ronn! Blankenship wrote: > > > > > just mean "Mama/Papa is 70+ and though s/he was in good health for a > > > person of that age before the heart attack, someone of that age can

RE: Alpha Mails (fun with SQL - L3ish)

2003-01-16 Thread Nick Arnett
It just means that the close is 5 seconds slower... deterioration of the DNA encoding and all that. Nick -- Nick Arnett Phone/fax: (408) 904-7198 [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On > Behalf Of Julia Thompson > Sent: Thursday, Ja

Re: Alpha Mails (fun with SQL - L3ish)

2003-01-16 Thread Julia Thompson
Nick Arnett wrote: > > Would you ask your clone not to send copies of the same messages that you > send? Please? > Actually, the 2 messages were *not* identical. They were time-stamped 5 seconds apart (Dunno that that really helps, though) Julia __

Re: Alpha Mails (fun with SQL - L3ish)

2003-01-16 Thread Julia Thompson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > In a message dated 1/16/2003 9:24:52 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > And certainly not worth pissing off the four pther people > > that are > > > still reading this three-way argument. *shrugs* > > > > Eh, I think there are actually 5 or 6 o

RE: Alpha Mails (fun with SQL - L3ish)

2003-01-16 Thread Nick Arnett
Would you ask your clone not to send copies of the same messages that you send? Please? -- Nick Arnett Phone/fax: (408) 904-7198 [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On > Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003

Helvetian War (Was: RE: Axis of Evil? Bah! Nuke Switzerland!)

2003-01-16 Thread Jon Gabriel
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On > Behalf Of Damon > Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 9:30 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Axis of Evil? Bah! Nuke Switzerland! > > > >Not sure if you're being tongue-in-cheek, but I was referring to the > >war referenced in _Earth_ -

Re: The United States of America has gone mad

2003-01-16 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: "Robert Seeberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 7:31 PM Subject: Re: The United States of America has gone mad > I hope no one thinks that I agree with all the things I post. Sometimes I > just find them interestin

RE: The United States of America has gone mad

2003-01-16 Thread Jon Gabriel
-Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On > Behalf Of Julia Thompson > Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 8:45 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: The United States of America has gone mad > > Robert Seeberger wrote: > > > I hope no one thinks that I a

Re: Alpha Mails (fun with SQL - L3ish)

2003-01-16 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 1/16/2003 9:24:52 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > And certainly not worth pissing off the four pther people > that are > > still reading this three-way argument. *shrugs* > > Eh, I think there are actually 5 or 6 of us. :) Wait a minute are you 5 or 6?

Re: Alpha Mails (fun with SQL - L3ish)

2003-01-16 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 1/16/2003 9:24:52 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > And certainly not worth pissing off the four pther people > that are > > still reading this three-way argument. *shrugs* > > Eh, I think there are actually 5 or 6 of us. :) Wait a minute are you 5 or 6?

Re: Scouted: "It's a Junior Mint" becomes a reality

2003-01-16 Thread Kevin Tarr
> William said: > > > How many years did you study On-Call-oh-gee? > > I haven't studied it at all. My dad is currently undergoing cancer > therapy. > Rich, who has only ever formally studied physics and computer science. I'll still try and sell you a book sometime. Rather than recommendin

Re: Child abuse (was: More on North Korea)

2003-01-16 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 1/16/2003 8:27:06 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > are we devote resources to "saving" these > humans despite there poor chance of surviving? > > > I think that you answered your own question. these "abortions" happen > because the ch

Re: Child abuse (was: More on North Korea)

2003-01-16 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 1/15/2003 11:13:56 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > The number 1 controlling factor that I know of is that children that > grow up in abusive homes tend to become abusers themselves. > The standard explanation for information like this is that this an en

Re: Axis of Evil? Bah! Nuke Switzerland!

2003-01-16 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 16 Jan 2003 at 21:06, Damon wrote: > > >What I always wonder about is the final destination of so much of > >this money. Drug lords are killed on a regular basis, often with no > >organisation left to take up the reins. Many of the despotic leaders > >are so paranoid that only they know their

Re: Desktop Icon Utility

2003-01-16 Thread Erik Reuter
On Thu, Jan 16, 2003 at 08:08:30PM -0500, John Garcia wrote: > Minor nitpick: Federal Judges are *nominated* by the President, but > are confirmed by the Senate. Quite a few nominees have been rejected > by that body. Any judge that makes it through such a process was originally chosen by the pre

Re: Axis of Evil? Bah! Nuke Switzerland!

2003-01-16 Thread Damon
Not sure if you're being tongue-in-cheek, but I was referring to the war referenced in _Earth_ - sorry for getting On-Topic, I know it's not something we do often on this list Actually I WASN'T being tongue-in-cheek but serious. I haven't read Earth yet (no copies locally and there have be

Re: A new type of brain scanner

2003-01-16 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 1/15/2003 10:17:24 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > The intended applications of MEG - as far as I can see from reading > two papers on it - are in studying brain conditions rather than > individual patients. It's a powerful research tool which may for the

Re: Axis of Evil? Bah! Nuke Switzerland!

2003-01-16 Thread Adam C. Lipscomb
Damon wrote: > > >So, when is the Helvetian War? > > Wasn't this the war where Caesar defeated the migrating Helvetii (located > in Wester Switzerland) at the beginning of his Gallic adventures? Not sure if you're being tongue-in-cheek, but I was referring to the war referenced in _Earth_ - sorry

Re: Alpha Mails (fun with SQL - L3ish)

2003-01-16 Thread Julia Thompson
Jim Sharkey wrote: > > Miller, Jeffrey wrote > >> Mirror, mirror on the wall... > >What is this, kindergarten? "I know you are but what am I" went out > >with eating paste. > > A little chocolate sauce, some whipped cream, and it's not so bad. :-) > > I frankly don't know what the whole argumen

RE: Alpha Mails (fun with SQL - L3ish)

2003-01-16 Thread Jim Sharkey
Miller, Jeffrey wrote >> Mirror, mirror on the wall... >What is this, kindergarten? "I know you are but what am I" went out >with eating paste. A little chocolate sauce, some whipped cream, and it's not so bad. :-) I frankly don't know what the whole argument is over. I find it hard to believ

Re: Axis of Evil? Bah! Nuke Switzerland!

2003-01-16 Thread Damon
So, when is the Helvetian War? Wasn't this the war where Caesar defeated the migrating Helvetii (located in Wester Switzerland) at the beginning of his Gallic adventures? Damon. Damon Agretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Qui desiderat pacem

Re: Axis of Evil? Bah! Nuke Switzerland!

2003-01-16 Thread Adam C. Lipscomb
Russell asked: > > What I always wonder about is the final destination of so much of this > money. Drug lords are killed on a regular basis, often with no > organisation left to take up the reins. Many of the despotic leaders > are so paranoid that only they know their numbered account details, an

Re: Axis of Evil? Bah! Nuke Switzerland!

2003-01-16 Thread Damon
What I always wonder about is the final destination of so much of this money. Drug lords are killed on a regular basis, often with no organisation left to take up the reins. Many of the despotic leaders are so paranoid that only they know their numbered account details, and they are often "d

Re: Axis of Evil? Bah! Nuke Switzerland!

2003-01-16 Thread Russell Chapman
Alberto Monteiro wrote: Switzerland must be the most evil country of the world, hosting terrorists, drug dealers, corrupt g*vernment people, dictators, etc. It's a safe haven for their money. They really are the vultures of our planet. They don't manufacture WMD, they don't intern dissidents

Re: The United States of America has gone mad

2003-01-16 Thread Julia Thompson
Robert Seeberger wrote: > I hope no one thinks that I agree with all the things I post. Sometimes I > just find them interesting or provacative. > > xponent > Splatterpost Maru > rob Oh, I figure as much. The Le Carré piece was provocative -- look what reactions it provoked! :) (I appreciate

Re: The United States of America has gone mad

2003-01-16 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: "Julia Thompson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 11:24 AM Subject: Re: The United States of America has gone mad > Erik Reuter wrote: > > > > On Wed, Jan 15, 2003 at 07:59:27PM -0600, Robert Seeberger wrote: > > >

Attn David Brin -- A4P Encyclopedia.

2003-01-16 Thread Trent Shipley
What sort of "accomodation" should fan sites make for _Contacting Aliens_. One does not want to usurp sales of any commercial products, but if possible to provide reason to increase them. Nevertheless, ... Well ideas and opinions from both property owners and IP consumers are welcome. -- Tr

Re: Alpha Mails (fun with SQL - L3ish)

2003-01-16 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: "Robert Seeberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 6:50 PM Subject: Re: Alpha Mails (fun with SQL - L3ish) > > - Original Message - > From: <[

Re: Desktop Icon Utility

2003-01-16 Thread John Garcia
On Thursday, January 16, 2003, at 01:07 PM, Erik Reuter wrote: On Thu, Jan 16, 2003 at 05:24:09PM -, Andrew Crystall wrote: Yes, Britain's uncodified constitution isn't black and white in the same way, but it lets judges have far more leyway to clamp down on the goverment and other organisa

Re: Alpha Mails (fun with SQL - L3ish)

2003-01-16 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 3:56 AM Subject: RE: Alpha Mails (fun with SQL - L3ish) > > -Oorspronkelijk bericht- > > Van: Andrew Crystall

Re: Axis of Evil? Bah! Nuke Switzerland!

2003-01-16 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 16 Jan 2003 at 22:52, Alberto Monteiro wrote: > > Switzerland must be the most evil country of the world, > hosting terrorists, drug dealers, > corrupt g*vernment people, dictators, etc. > It's a safe haven for their money. > > Here in Rio de Janeiro, the gov.ch has published the > money

RE: Alpha Mails (fun with SQL - L3ish)

2003-01-16 Thread Miller, Jeffrey
> -Original Message- > From: J. van Baardwijk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 02:50 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Alpha Mails (fun with SQL - L3ish) > > Hell, even the stuff on brin-l.com is copyrighted. But Jeroen, its all publicly posted. Wh

Axis of Evil? Bah! Nuke Switzerland!

2003-01-16 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Switzerland must be the most evil country of the world, hosting terrorists, drug dealers, corrupt g*vernment people, dictators, etc. It's a safe haven for their money. Here in Rio de Janeiro, the gov.ch has published the money that a minor corrupt government officer stole. His crime was *not*

Re: Is Anyone Else Offended By This?

2003-01-16 Thread Reggie Bautista
Ronn! wrote: My parents are Ellis and Mary Blankenship. The fact that I share genetic material with neither is of no consequence. [snip] Family is about a lot more than biology. Agreed. My parents are Ynacio and Frances Bautista, although I'm not a result of their genes mixing. I never h

Re: Enough!

2003-01-16 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 15:09 16-01-2003 -0800, Nick Arnett wrote: I have perhaps engaged too long this time in van Baardwijk games. Games? You call this "games"? Personally, I consider threatening someone with lawsuits a very serious thing. I also consider threatening someone with banishment a very serious thing

Re: The Two Towers (spoilers)

2003-01-16 Thread Russell Chapman
Jim Sharkey wrote: And speaking of LotR, am I the only who finds himself feeling a very strong urge to visit New Zealand after watching the movies? It's amazingly beautiful country, at least the parts Mr. Jackson is showing us. I was on holidays when this was posted, so forgive the late respon

RE: Enough!

2003-01-16 Thread Gary L. Nunn
> I have perhaps engaged too long this time in van Baardwijk > games. I should have realized from the start that he'd > already made up his mind about his copyright law expertise, > etc. I am sorry to have used list bandwidth to go back and > forth about it... and I would invite all to join

RE: Desktop Icon Utility

2003-01-16 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 16:38 16-01-2003 -0500, Jon Gabriel wrote: (I'm honestly curious here... can you find an instance in the archives?) Archives? What archives? You mean that collection of some 100,000 Brin-L posts that just went into the trashcan and from there went to wherever it is that deleted files go?

Re: Scouted: "It's a Junior Mint" becomes a reality

2003-01-16 Thread Julia Thompson
Jon Gabriel wrote: > > http://customwire.ap.org/dynamic/stories/S/SURGICAL_TOOLS?SITE=NYWNE&SECTION=HOME > > Jan 16, 4:11 AM EST > Surgery Tools Left in 1,500 People a Year > > By JEFF DONN > Associated Press Writer > > BOSTON (AP) -- A study on medical mistakes found operating room teams aroun

Enough!

2003-01-16 Thread Nick Arnett
I have perhaps engaged too long this time in van Baardwijk games. I should have realized from the start that he'd already made up his mind about his copyright law expertise, etc. I am sorry to have used list bandwidth to go back and forth about it... and I would invite all to join me in abandonin

Re: Scouted: "It's a Junior Mint" becomes a reality

2003-01-16 Thread Julia Thompson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > In a message dated 1/16/2003 12:54:25 PM US Mountain Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > > > > >William Taylor > > >- > > >Using a felt pen to mark WRONG LEG > > >always sounded like a good idea to me. > > > > ROFL I love it

Now Corporations Claim The "Right To Lie"

2003-01-16 Thread The Fool
http://www.commondreams.org/views03/0101-07.htm Now Corporations Claim The "Right To Lie" by Thom Hartmann While Nike was conducting a huge and expensive PR blitz to tell people that it had cleaned up its subcontractors' sweatshop labor practices, an alert consumer advocate and activist in C

RE: Alpha Mails (fun with SQL - L3ish)

2003-01-16 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 10:06 16-01-2003 -0800, Nick Arnett wrote: You don't seem to grasp the difference between copying on the Internet, which is the medium in which the messages are original published, and a different medium, CD-ROM. You'd be using my intellectual property in a manner which I did not authorize.

Re: Souldynamics

2003-01-16 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Richard Baker wrote: > > And for those who believe in reincarnation: where do the extra souls > come from when the population (of all lifeforms, if necessary) expands? > This is simple: the soul evolves, like the species. You might have been a Ramapithecus some time ago. Alberto Monteiro __

RE: Alpha Mails (fun with SQL - L3ish)

2003-01-16 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 10:25 16-01-2003 -0800, Nick Arnett wrote: > So, despite having been shown wrong, are you still going to insist > that your posts not be included on the Great Brin-L Archive CD-ROM? I've been proven wrong? Did I miss a Supreme Court ruling? A modification of the Berne Convention? I pointed

RE: Desktop Icon Utility

2003-01-16 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: "J. van Baardwijk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: Desktop Icon Utility Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 21:43:36 +0100 At 14:50 16-01-2003 -0500, Jon Gabriel wrote: I've said it before and I will say it again (although people will probably just ignore it again): criticism of American policies does

Re: Scouted: "It's a Junior Mint" becomes a reality

2003-01-16 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 1/16/2003 2:08:38 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > William said: > > > How many years did you study On-Call-oh-gee? > > I haven't studied it at all. My dad is currently undergoing cancer > therapy. > Rich, who has only ever formally studied phy

RE: Alpha Mails (fun with SQL - L3ish)

2003-01-16 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 10:25 16-01-2003 -0800, Nick Arnett wrote: These comments are totally out of line and a far more serious personal attack than the I warned Andrew about. Personally, I feel that Andy's attacks and threats are far more serious than mine. Let's reiterate: "Try to make ONE PENNY profit, and th

Re: Scouted: "It's a Junior Mint" becomes a reality

2003-01-16 Thread Richard Baker
William said: > How many years did you study On-Call-oh-gee? I haven't studied it at all. My dad is currently undergoing cancer therapy. Last April, he got the five year all-clear after his kidney tumour was removed. Three months later he started showing symptoms. In December he was diagnosed wit

RE: Alpha Mails (fun with SQL - L3ish)

2003-01-16 Thread Miller, Jeffrey
> -Original Message- > From: Nick Arnett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 10:07 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Alpha Mails (fun with SQL - L3ish) > > > LEGAL NOTICE: > > By replying to this message, you understand and accept that your > > replies

RE: Alpha Mails (fun with SQL - L3ish)

2003-01-16 Thread Miller, Jeffrey
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 07:50 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Alpha Mails (fun with SQL - L3ish) > > Or, to put it in words you might be able to comprehend: prove > those c

Re: Is Anyone Else Offended By This?

2003-01-16 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 04:05 PM 1/16/03 +, Andrew Crystall wrote: On 16 Jan 2003 at 9:58, Julia Thompson wrote: > Jean-Louis Couturier wrote: > > > I haven't read Bujold and have no idea what uterine replicators are. > > I was thinking of an artificial womb. Hospitals already have > > incubators and as time pa

RE: Alpha Mails (fun with SQL - L3ish)

2003-01-16 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 10:36 16-01-2003 -0800, Nick Arnett wrote: > > > I should mention that I consider you a worthless piece of scum in > > > Human form, > > > > No personal attacks. By *anybody*! That was pretty darn personal. > > Yup. And given an earlier statement from the list admins that personal > attacks

Re: Scouted: "It's a Junior Mint" becomes a reality

2003-01-16 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 1/16/2003 1:04:35 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > Rich, who is just entering a whole new round of adventures in oncology. > I once had all the volumes of the atlas of tumor pathology--and you didn't buy a single one? Dang. Well, I only pai

RE: Desktop Icon Utility

2003-01-16 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 14:50 16-01-2003 -0500, Jon Gabriel wrote: I've said it before and I will say it again (although people will probably just ignore it again): criticism of American policies does not equal anti-Americanism. I won't ignore it -- I haven't in the past, either. :) Aha -- so it is was *you* who

Re: Scouted: "It's a Junior Mint" becomes a reality

2003-01-16 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 1/16/2003 12:54:25 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > >Put a radio beeper on every instrument, tube, and gauze pad. Have a nurse > >pass a wand as standard procedure before closing. > > > >Someone do a study. Would the added costs more than outweigh th

Re: Scouted: "It's a Junior Mint" becomes a reality

2003-01-16 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 1/16/2003 12:48:54 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > >Put a radio beeper on every instrument, tube, and gauze pad. Have a nurse > >pass a wand as standard procedure before closing. > > How about those electronic tags that are going to be used to trac

Re: Scouted: "It's a Junior Mint" becomes a reality

2003-01-16 Thread Richard Baker
William said: > Using a felt pen to mark WRONG LEG > always sounded like a good idea to me. About five years ago, my father had to have a kidney removed because it contained a tumour. During the preparations for the operation, one of the doctors was supposed to mark on his abdomen which side cont

Re: Scouted: "It's a Junior Mint" becomes a reality

2003-01-16 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Scouted: "It's a Junior Mint" becomes a reality Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 14:36:21 EST In a message dated 1/16/2003 12:10:01 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Scouted: > BOSTON (AP) -- A study on med

RE: Desktop Icon Utility

2003-01-16 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Desktop Icon Utility Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 11:21:51 +0100 > -Oorspronkelijk bericht- > Van: Jon Gabriel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Verzonden: donderdag 16 januari 2003 6:52 > Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Onderwerp: RE: Desktop Icon Utility > > It's the

Re: Scouted: "It's a Junior Mint" becomes a reality

2003-01-16 Thread Reggie Bautista
Jon wrote: > BOSTON (AP) -- A study on medical mistakes found operating room teams around > the country leave sponges, clamps and other tools inside about 1,500 > patients every year, largely because of stress from emergencies or > complications discovered during surgery. William Taylor repli

Re: Twins and Clones are soulless [was: Child abuse]

2003-01-16 Thread Richard Baker
Brad said: > More interesting is what happens if your embryo absorbs your > embryonic twin. Then you have two souls... A few years ago, I read a story in New Scientist about a boy whose blood had no father, because the ova that became him had divided and then one of the two cells had been fertil

Re: Twins and Clones are soulless [was: Child abuse]

2003-01-16 Thread Reggie Bautista
Andrew Crystall wrote: > Judaism has never had a problem with souls being divided. > There are only (as I recall, might be wrong) 100,000 Jewish > souls out there, but some people have parts of the same one :P Steve Sloan replied: Hmmm, I didn't know that. It sounds a lot like Minbari theology,

Re: Scouted: "It's a Junior Mint" becomes a reality

2003-01-16 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 1/16/2003 12:10:01 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Scouted: > BOSTON (AP) -- A study on medical mistakes found operating room teams around > the country leave sponges, clamps and other tools inside about 1,500 > patients every year, largely because of stres

Re: Twins and Clones are soulless [was: Child abuse]

2003-01-16 Thread Reggie Bautista
Alberto wrote: Tsk, tsk, tsk. Have you watched any movies recently? It's obvious that, in any pair of twins, one is born evil. So, we can use Occam's razor, and conclude that there is just one soul in each pair. Ergo, clones will also be soulless. Occam's razor only applies when there are two c

Re: Desktop Icon Utility

2003-01-16 Thread Erik Reuter
On Thu, Jan 16, 2003 at 07:04:46PM -, Andrew Crystall wrote: > Interesting. Europe has a VERY strong judicial branch which has > proved extremely resistant so far to government browbeating. The way, Why do you think that is? How are judges chosen in Britain? -- "Erik Reuter" <[EMAI

Scouted: "It's a Junior Mint" becomes a reality

2003-01-16 Thread Jon Gabriel
http://customwire.ap.org/dynamic/stories/S/SURGICAL_TOOLS?SITE=NYWNE&SECTION=HOME Jan 16, 4:11 AM EST Surgery Tools Left in 1,500 People a Year By JEFF DONN Associated Press Writer BOSTON (AP) -- A study on medical mistakes found operating room teams around the country leave sponges, clamps and

Re: Desktop Icon Utility

2003-01-16 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 16 Jan 2003 at 13:07, Erik Reuter wrote: > It seems that the seperation of Executive and Judicial branches is > becoming too week. I wonder if it wouldn't be better for judges to be > appointed by a specially-elected "judicial appointer" whose only job > is to appoint judges (it would probably

Scouted: Democarts and Repbulicans

2003-01-16 Thread Jon Gabriel
http://customwire.ap.org/dynamic/stories/C/CANDIDATES_SPELLING?SITE=NYWNE&SECTION=HOME Politicians Misspell Party Names CHARLESTON, W.Va. (AP) -- Spelling isn't a high priority for several candidates in city elections. A handful of candidates misspelled their party affiliation on the official fi

Re: Twins and Clones are soulless [was: Child abuse]

2003-01-16 Thread Bradford DeLong
> It seems clear that conception in human can occur both sexually and asexually. Thus, it would seem that the second soul would logically arrive at the moment of the second conception. Tsk, tsk, tsk. Have you watched any movies recently? It's obvious that, in any pair of twins, one is born

Re: Desktop Icon Utility

2003-01-16 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: Doug Pensinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Desktop Icon Utility Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 03:41:46 -0800 Jon Gabriel wrote: Jon Of course that's just my opinion... I could be wrong. And considering that I'm running on 4.5 hours of sleep in 32 hours I definitely could be wrong! :) Act

RE: Alpha Mails (fun with SQL - L3ish)

2003-01-16 Thread Nick Arnett
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 1:06 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Alpha Mails (fun with SQL - L3ish) > Importance: High > > > > -Oors

RE: Alpha Mails (fun with SQL - L3ish)

2003-01-16 Thread Nick Arnett
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On > Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... > You know, you could save the list admins some work and at the same time do > this whole list a huge favour: get the fuck off this list and never come > back. We don't need intol

RE: Alpha Mails (fun with SQL - L3ish)

2003-01-16 Thread Nick Arnett
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On > Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... > As someone pointed out earlier in this debate, music is a rather special > case, as there are fees to be paid every time a piece of music is > performed > or recorded. There are

Re: Desktop Icon Utility

2003-01-16 Thread Erik Reuter
On Thu, Jan 16, 2003 at 05:24:09PM -, Andrew Crystall wrote: > Yes, Britain's uncodified constitution isn't black and white in the > same way, but it lets judges have far more leyway to clamp down on > the goverment and other organisations when they try to start working > round civil liberti

RE: Alpha Mails (fun with SQL - L3ish)

2003-01-16 Thread Nick Arnett
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On > Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... > > If you're serious about publishing a CD-ROM, you might want to talk to > > an intellectual property lawyer before assuming that you're not exposing > > yourself to liability b

Re: Child abuse (was: More on North Korea)

2003-01-16 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: Richard Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Child abuse (was: More on North Korea) Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 14:08:52 + John said: > It seems clear that conception in human can occur both sexually and > asexually. Thus, it would seem that the second soul would logically > arrive at th

Re: Alpha Mails (fun with SQL - L3ish)

2003-01-16 Thread Steve Sloan II
[EMAIL PROTECTED] and Andrew Crystall are fighting... Settle down back there, you two, or I'm going to turn this car right around and head home! ;-) But seriously, Jeroen, Andrew and Nick raise some very valid points about copyright laws and the archive CD. You should probably talk to a lawyer, j

Re: The Crud redux

2003-01-16 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: "John D. Giorgis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: The Crud reduxDate: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 08:29:09 -0500 At 07:55 PM 1/15/2003 -0600 Robert Seeberger wrote: >http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A61287-2003Jan15.html > >The FBI said Wednesday that vials containing samples of letha

Re: Desktop Icon Utility

2003-01-16 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 16 Jan 2003 at 12:09, Jon Gabriel wrote: > >From: Erik Reuter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: Re: Desktop Icon Utility > >Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 08:00:28 -0500 > > > >On Thu, Jan 16, 2003 at 12:52:00AM -0500, Jon Gabriel wrote: > > > Despite the lure of positive thinking and pacifistic optimism

Re: guilty until proven innocent in Louisiana

2003-01-16 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: "John D. Giorgis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: guilty until proven innocent in Louisiana Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 08:17:29 -0500 At 06:11 PM 1/14/2003 -0600 The Fool wrote: >http://www.washtimes.com/national/20030114-73728234.htm *Blink*. Umm... how does a DNA test make one "p

Re: Twins and Clones are soulless [was: Child abuse]

2003-01-16 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 16 Jan 2003 at 11:11, Steve Sloan II wrote: > Andrew Crystall wrote: > > > Judaism has never had a problem with souls being divided. > > There are only (as I recall, might be wrong) 100,000 Jewish > > souls out there, but some people have parts of the same one :P > > Hmmm, I didn't know th

Re: The United States of America has gone mad

2003-01-16 Thread Julia Thompson
Erik Reuter wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 15, 2003 at 07:59:27PM -0600, Robert Seeberger wrote: > > John le Carré > > > I agree that freedoms are being eroded and that it needs to be > stopped. But why not list the problems and discuss address them > specifically instead of making exagerated

Re: Twins and Clones are soulless [was: Child abuse]

2003-01-16 Thread Steve Sloan II
Andrew Crystall wrote: > Judaism has never had a problem with souls being divided. > There are only (as I recall, might be wrong) 100,000 Jewish > souls out there, but some people have parts of the same one :P Hmmm, I didn't know that. It sounds a lot like Minbari theology, so now I'm wondering i

Re: Desktop Icon Utility

2003-01-16 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: Erik Reuter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Desktop Icon Utility Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 08:00:28 -0500 On Thu, Jan 16, 2003 at 12:52:00AM -0500, Jon Gabriel wrote: > Despite the lure of positive thinking and pacifistic optimism, I do > believe that our government is going to have to maintai

Re: Souldynamics [was: Child abuse]

2003-01-16 Thread David Hobby
Richard Baker wrote: > > Alberto said: > > > Also, when an Universe splits in two alternate timelines, do the > > souls divide? Or are the two personalities the same soul? > > And for those who believe in reincarnation: where do the extra souls > come from when the population (of all lifeforms,

Re: Alpha Mails (fun with SQL - L3ish)

2003-01-16 Thread Richard Baker
Jeroen said: > Then PROVE IT! Or, in other words, put up or shut up. And then > unsubscribe from this list, and preferably also unsubscribe from life. Jeroen, could you stop trying to push people towards suicide? The Net is full of vulnerable people who might take that more seriously than any of

Re: Souldynamics [was: Child abuse]

2003-01-16 Thread Richard Baker
Alberto said: > Also, when an Universe splits in two alternate timelines, do the > souls divide? Or are the two personalities the same soul? And for those who believe in reincarnation: where do the extra souls come from when the population (of all lifeforms, if necessary) expands? While we're on

Re: Is Anyone Else Offended By This?

2003-01-16 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 16 Jan 2003 at 9:58, Julia Thompson wrote: > Jean-Louis Couturier wrote: > > > I haven't read Bujold and have no idea what uterine replicators are. > > I was thinking of an artificial womb. Hospitals already have > > incubators and as time passes, premature babies have a better and > > bette

Re: A Problem For Conservatives

2003-01-16 Thread Marvin Long, Jr.
On Wed, 15 Jan 2003, Richard Baker wrote: > There's only heterophenomenological evidence for consciousness - some > people say they experience it. There's exactly the same kind of > "evidence" for God. Are both sets of heterophenomenological (whew!) evidence/claims equal w/respect to internal co

Re: Is Anyone Else Offended By This?

2003-01-16 Thread Julia Thompson
Jean-Louis Couturier wrote: > I haven't read Bujold and have no idea what uterine replicators are. I > was thinking of an artificial womb. Hospitals already have incubators > and as time passes, premature babies have a better and better chances > at life. The development that a fetus needs to h

RE: Alpha Mails (fun with SQL - L3ish)

2003-01-16 Thread J . v . Baardwijk
> -Oorspronkelijk bericht- > Van: Andrew Crystall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Verzonden: donderdag 16 januari 2003 16:20 > Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Onderwerp: RE: Alpha Mails (fun with SQL - L3ish) > > You know, you could save the list admins some work and at the same > > time do this who

Souldynamics [was: Child abuse]

2003-01-16 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Richard Baker wrote: > >Why not say that souls can divide just as cells can? That would help >resolve the problem of the souls of split-brain patients too. > Also, when an Universe splits in two alternate timelines, do the souls divide? Or are the two personalities the same soul? Could Hilter be

Re: Is Anyone Else Offended By This?

2003-01-16 Thread Jean-Louis Couturier
At 21:19 2003-01-14 -0500, Erik wrote: At 02:43 PM 1/14/2003 -0500 Jean-Louis Couturier wrote: >It seems to me that there can be no solution to this dilemma until we >can garantee that no woman has to live 9 months of pregnancy against >her will, while on the other hand preserving the unborn's li

RE: Alpha Mails (fun with SQL - L3ish)

2003-01-16 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 16 Jan 2003 at 15:40, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Again, given the threats and personal attacks by mr. Crystall, I > > > must request that the list admins take appropriate administrative > > > action against him. Banning him till he publicly apologises and > > > promises to refrain from this

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