http://www.saljournal.com/stories/021203/opi_eddy.html
The tale of a bad bill not read
By TOM BELL
The Salina Journal
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THE ISSUE
Creationism
THE ARGUMENT
Legislative process stops bad bill
It is easy to
http://rockymountainnews.com/drmn/news_columnists/article/0,1299,DRMN_86_1
736392,00.html
And just so there's no misunderstanding, bill sponsor Debbie Stafford, an
Aurora Republican, now says she will amend her bill to make In God We
Trust sightings bilingual. One assumes that the Spanish
http://www.gopbi.com/partners/pbpost/epaper/editions/sunday/opinion_e3d436
a8a44900300035.html
Many Americans to lose if Bush hits his trifecta
Palm Beach Post Editorial
Sunday, February 16, 2003
It was like the old days. In his semiannual lecture to Congress last
week, Federal Reserve Chairman
At 02:16 AM 2/14/03 -0600, The Fool wrote:
FWIW, did you realize that a lot of your messages in this series are being
tagged as spam? Are you doing something different with these messages
than you have been doing with your regular messages to the list?
SPAM: Start
On Sun, Feb 16, 2003 at 07:24:06AM -0600, Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
FWIW, did you realize that a lot of your messages in this series are
being tagged as spam? Are you doing something different with these
messages than you have been doing with your regular messages to the
list?
This is a
Some U.S. Lawmakers Want to Ban French Water, Wine and Move Troops From
Germany
http://abcnews.go.com/wire/Politics/ap20030212_2504.html
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On Sun, Feb 16, 2003 at 08:33:38AM -0500, Gary L. Nunn wrote:
Some U.S. Lawmakers Want to Ban French Water, Wine and Move Troops From
Germany
Ban French wine? Yeah, right, that'll work.
--
Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.erikreuter.net/
At 08:26 AM 2/16/03 -0500, Erik Reuter wrote:
On Sun, Feb 16, 2003 at 07:24:06AM -0600, Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
FWIW, did you realize that a lot of your messages in this series are
being tagged as spam? Are you doing something different with these
messages than you have been doing with your
Julia Thompson wrote:
Plus which, didn't Homer stick a hard hat on her at some point? I
think I recall him carrying her out of the nuclear plant to spend
some time with her in the car
To wit: I'm going to the back seat of my car, with the woman I love, and I won't be
back for TEN
It's Sunday, once again. The tally to date for a Brin-L sci-fi book
review:
Iain Banks: Consider Phlebas
Iain Banks: Excession
Iain Banks: Against a Dark Background
Greg Bear: Moving Mars
David Brin: Earth (4 votes)
David Brin: Glory Season (5 votes) (Remaining Portion Only)
David Brin: Heart
Ilana wrote:
Jim wrote
What is it about this woman that galvanizes opinions on both sides?
I've only ever read Anthem, and that was back in high school. Even
then, it was only because I was a Rush fan and it was required to read at least
one book by her if you were. :-)
??? I need translation
On Sun, Feb 16, 2003 at 07:41:47AM -0600, Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
I'm curious what you mean by this . . .
I'm curious why:
1) You addressed your comment to the Fool
2) You didn't mention the reason(s) spamassassin was flagging Fool's
messages as spam
3) You didn't mention the several other
I can see a lot of delays in mail going to your domain, but I'll have to
take a close look to figure out what's going on.
--
Nick Arnett
Phone/fax: (408) 904-7198
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
Behalf Of G. D. Akin
Sent:
On Tue, 11 Feb 2003 10:45:39 +1000, Russell Chapman wrote:
Matt Grimaldi wrote:
That being said, there really was no excuse for showing
The Flintstones.
I dunno - he had some pretty cool technology - way ahead of its time...
:-)
The Flintstones was very SF. With time machines, invisibility,
Here's something unexpected that I dug out of analyzing my server logs...
Phrases that people use in search engines that land them in the Brin-L
archive files... In reality, none of these really did much of anything
interesting, but it shows, well, something.
This is for the month of February,
Erik Reuter wrote:
Some U.S. Lawmakers Want to Ban French Water, Wine and Move Troops From
Germany
Ban French wine? Yeah, right, that'll work.
I think the USA tried to do this with alchool a century ago, and with
cocaine for the past 50 or so years - with little success
Alberto Monteiro
From: Jon Gabriel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Chapter by Chapter summary/discussion of a different Brin
book?
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 09:19:40 -0500
It's Sunday, once again. The tally to date for a Brin-L sci-fi book
Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo wrote:
My vote goes to Earth. :)
Change mine to Earth too (from HotC).
Doug
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From: Andrew Crystall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: POLICY PROPOSAL: The list and copyright
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 06:56:25 -
On 15 Feb 2003 at 20:25, Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo wrote:
He found some old
On 16 Feb 2003 at 17:09, Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo wrote:
On 15 Feb 2003 at 20:25, Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo wrote:
He found some old messages from a particular long-time (about 7
years at the time) list member, copied some parts of those
messages out of context, and forwarded a printout of those
On Sun, Feb 16, 2003 at 08:36:11AM -0800, Nick Arnett wrote:
1 2 3.92% amatorization
amo, amas, amat : love
mort : death
Loving the death process? :-)
amortization, root amortize, comes from Latin, ad=towards and mort=death
--
Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.erikreuter.net/
Andrew Crystall wrote:
It can be illegal as you like...if you go after your employer you can
basically kiss any good job goodbye ever again *shrugs*. Realities of
the situation.
That depends. I know of someone who got fired for cause and went after her
employer for discrimination. (She was
On Sun, Feb 16, 2003 at 05:09:29PM +, Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo wrote:
Then somebody here isn't following due process. It's a really sad
situation when employers are willing to go against the law and see how far
an employee would go to fight for his rights.
What law are they going against?
Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
At 02:16 AM 2/14/03 -0600, The Fool wrote:
FWIW, did you realize that a lot of your messages in this series are being
tagged as spam? Are you doing something different with these messages
than you have been doing with your regular messages to the list?
SPAM:
On 16 Feb 2003 at 11:35, Julia Thompson wrote:
Andrew Crystall wrote:
It can be illegal as you like...if you go after your employer you
can basically kiss any good job goodbye ever again *shrugs*.
Realities of the situation.
That depends. I know of someone who got fired for cause and
It was from a misspelling of amortization. We were talking about real
estate, IIRC.
--
Nick Arnett
Phone/fax: (408) 904-7198
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
Behalf Of Erik Reuter
Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2003 9:24 AM
To:
Okay, Nick, since you are/have been sick, this time I'll let you off
with a warning: on your next violation, such a post will receive a
humorous, sarcastic comment :-)
On Sun, Feb 16, 2003 at 09:50:40AM -0800, Nick Arnett wrote:
It was from a misspelling of amortization. We were talking about
Er, did you think that was a joke? I was serious -- do a Google search on
amatorization and see which mccmedia.com page is in the results list. But
it wasn't real estate, it was energy we were talking about.
So there.
The antibiotics end today! And speaking of Google, I was somewhat bothered
Hi Doug,
I haven't been changing anybody's answers. If someone mentioned that
they liked or wanted to vote for a particular novel I've just been
adding it to the tally.
Frex: Ilana mentioned that she liked some 5 or 6 novels (I think) in her
post. They're all in there.
I thought perhaps
On Sun, Feb 16, 2003 at 10:17:59AM -0800, Nick Arnett wrote:
Er, did you think that was a joke?
Getting warmer! I didn't think YOUR post was a joke.
By the way, thanks for the helpful reply about the misspelling. That was
as helpful as a back-seat driver in '57 Thunderbird.
The antibiotics
At 11:36 AM 2/16/03 -0600, Julia Thompson wrote:
Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
At 02:16 AM 2/14/03 -0600, The Fool wrote:
FWIW, did you realize that a lot of your messages in this series are being
tagged as spam? Are you doing something different with these messages
than you have been doing with
At 10:17 AM 2/16/03 -0800, Nick Arnett wrote:
Er, did you think that was a joke? I was serious -- do a Google search on
amatorization and see which mccmedia.com page is in the results list. But
it wasn't real estate, it was energy we were talking about.
So there.
The antibiotics end today!
At 05:37 PM 2/16/03 +, Andrew Crystall wrote:
On 16 Feb 2003 at 11:35, Julia Thompson wrote:
Andrew Crystall wrote:
It can be illegal as you like...if you go after your employer you
can basically kiss any good job goodbye ever again *shrugs*.
Realities of the situation.
That
From: Andrew Crystall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: POLICY PROPOSAL: The list and copyright
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 17:24:17 -
That IS what amounts to due process in the UK and from what some US
At 12:23 PM 2/16/03 -0500, Erik Reuter wrote:
On Sun, Feb 16, 2003 at 08:36:11AM -0800, Nick Arnett wrote:
1 2 3.92% amatorization
amo, amas, amat : love
mort : death
Loving the death process? :-)
amortization, root amortize, comes from Latin, ad=towards and mort=death
At 09:50 AM 2/16/03
On Sun, Feb 16, 2003 at 12:30:16PM -0600, Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
His messages about Bush are _still_ not being recognized by Eudora
as coming from Brin-L, so I simply thought I'd mention that there
is still a problem with his messages while replying to his message
rather than send him a
On Sun, Feb 16, 2003 at 12:54:46PM -0600, Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
At 12:23 PM 2/16/03 -0500, Erik Reuter wrote:
On Sun, Feb 16, 2003 at 08:36:11AM -0800, Nick Arnett wrote:
1 2 3.92% amatorization
amo, amas, amat : love
mort : death
Loving the death process? :-)
amortization, root
On 16 Feb 2003 at 18:56, Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo wrote:
That IS what amounts to due process in the UK and from what some US
friends have said over there as well.
I can *understand* why you wouldn't want to hire someone who'd taken
legal action against her previous boss as well! It's not
Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
His messages about Bush are _still_ not being recognized by Eudora as
coming from Brin-L, so I simply thought I'd mention that there is still a
problem with his messages while replying to his message rather than send
him a separate message about it. Logically, since
Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
(BTW, I tried to come up with a new subject line for this thread, but
couldn't think of a good one to cover the new topic. Anyone else have a
thought?)
Is that better? :) It was the best I could come up with on the fly.
Julia
about to head out for some
Erik Reuter wrote:
Next you'll be telling us that if only Monica Lewinsky wore a chastity
belt, everything would have turned out okay!
Oh, come on, Erik, that one was so lame, it sucked!
Julia
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On Sun, Feb 16, 2003 at 01:49:30PM -0600, Julia Thompson wrote:
Erik Reuter wrote:
Next you'll be telling us that if only Monica Lewinsky wore a chastity
belt, everything would have turned out okay!
Oh, come on, Erik, that one was so lame, it sucked!
You're right, I guess it sort of
Erik wrote:
Next you'll be telling us that if only Monica Lewinsky wore a chastity
belt, everything would have turned out okay!
That wouldn't have helped for the times that... well, that she had sexual
relations with him while he was not having sexual relations with her. Or
something like
Nick wrote:
Here's something unexpected that I dug out of analyzing my server logs...
Phrases that people use in search engines that land them in the Brin-L
archive files... In reality, none of these really did much of anything
interesting, but it shows, well, something.
[snip]
10 1 1.96%
In a message dated 2/16/03 9:49:49 AM US Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Ban French wine? Yeah, right, that'll work.
I think the USA tried to do this with alchool a century ago, and with
cocaine for the past 50 or so years - with little success
Alberto Monteiro
On Sun, Feb 16, 2003 at 01:54:17PM -0600, Reggie Bautista wrote:
Erik wrote:
Next you'll be telling us that if only Monica Lewinsky wore a chastity
belt, everything would have turned out okay!
That wouldn't have helped for the times that... well, that she had sexual
relations with him
Earth is good for me as well
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At 02:05 PM 2/16/03 -0500, Erik Reuter wrote:
Next you'll be telling us that if only Monica Lewinsky wore a chastity
belt, everything would have turned out okay!
I suppose it depends on precisely where she wore it . . .
The Woman In The Iron Mask Maru
-- Ronn! :)
Almighty Ruler of
From: Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: POLICY PROPOSAL: The list and copyright
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 12:25:07 -0500
On Sun, Feb 16, 2003 at 05:09:29PM +, Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo wrote:
Then
From: Andrew Crystall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: POLICY PROPOSAL: The list and copyright
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 19:36:23 -
Yeah, in the UK. As I said tho, some of my US friends have been
burned as
On Sat, 15 Feb 2003, Doug Pensinger wrote:
G. D. Akin wrote:
I have two reasons for you to finish Moving Mars.
1. It is a good book, a good story. I will admit, it started off slowly,
but persistence pays off.
I enjoyed it very much as well. I just finished Blood Music and would
Dan wrote:
I've been reading the news for the last few days, and I've seen the
following trends
[trends snipped]
So, one could extrapolate to a world where:
1) NATO is effectively broken
Here's my theory on this. If NATO is broken, then the US will sign
individual treaties with former
-Original Message-
From: Julia Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2003 09:35 AM
To: Killer Bs Discussion
Subject: Re: POLICY PROPOSAL: The list and copyright
In the US, if you get a negative recommendation from a former
employer and you figure out
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
Behalf Of Erik Reuter
...
Apparently, ferrets will just go crazy trying to get
Flagyl out of their mouths.
How about you?
Lots of Gatorade and toast handy before I take one of those. Just took the
mid-day
Julia Thompson wrote:
Erik Reuter wrote:
Next you'll be telling us that if only Monica Lewinsky wore a
chastity belt, everything would have turned out okay!
Oh, come on, Erik, that one was so lame, it sucked!
And worse yet, it may stain his reputation!
Jim
One Hour Martinizing Maru
Anyone else stuck at home in this snowstorm? From looking at the radar
it looks like this storm is covering all the way from Illinois to the
east coast.
Here in Delaware Ohio, we have about 9 inches of new snow with the
potential of another 10 inches. But I will believe that when I see it.
On Sun, Feb 16, 2003 at 06:04:52PM -0500, Gary L. Nunn wrote:
Anyone else stuck at home in this snowstorm? From looking at the radar
it looks like this storm is covering all the way from Illinois to the
east coast.
I'm not stuck, but I'm at home in New Jersey and the snow is coming down
Gary L. Nunn wrote:
Anyone else stuck at home in this snowstorm? From looking at the
radar it looks like this storm is covering all the way from
Illinois to the east coast.
I wouldn't call it stuck, as the family and I had no plans to do anything tonight or
tomorrow anyway. We planned ahead
On 16 Feb 2003 at 20:37, Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo wrote:
That reminds me of a contract I once signed (unfortunately) for a
computer consulting firm. I was just graduated from college, and a
said firm needed a programmer to modify PASCAL source code. In one of
the clauses, the contractor (who
Yes, I live in E. PA. Had to cut my GF time short today so I didn't have to
drive in the snow. Couple that with the fact that I think I finally trashed
the clutch in my car, its been a mediocre day all round. Except I have to
shovel it tomorrow...
The news report predicted 1-2 FEET of snow
Erik Reuter wrote:
On Sun, Feb 16, 2003 at 06:04:52PM -0500, Gary L. Nunn wrote:
Anyone else stuck at home in this snowstorm? From looking at the radar
it looks like this storm is covering all the way from Illinois to the
east coast.
I'm not stuck, but I'm at home in New Jersey and
Nick Arnett wrote:
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
Behalf Of Erik Reuter
...
Apparently, ferrets will just go crazy trying to get
Flagyl out of their mouths.
How about you?
Lots of Gatorade and toast handy before I take one
Reggie Bautista wrote:
Erik wrote:
Next you'll be telling us that if only Monica Lewinsky wore a chastity
belt, everything would have turned out okay!
That wouldn't have helped for the times that... well, that she had sexual
relations with him while he was not having sexual relations with
On Sun, Feb 16, 2003 at 06:23:37PM -0600, Julia Thompson wrote:
Um, was anyone going to be going to school on Monday anyway? It's a
holiday in many parts I think some people had the day off from
work, as well. For those folks, just as well the storm hit on a
holiday weekend, eh?
Heh,
In a message dated 2/16/2003 5:19:32 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Anyone else stuck at home in this snowstorm?
...as I'm sitting here in short pants and a tee shirt.
Oh well, I'll get the heat in July etc.
William Taylor
Is it known how long is the arc of the Orion Arm of the Milky-way?
I mean, is it known something like a parametric equation relating
distance to the Center of the Galaxy x Galactic Longitude?
Alberto Monteiro
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Jon Gabriel wrote:
Hi Doug,
I haven't been changing anybody's answers. If someone mentioned that
they liked or wanted to vote for a particular novel I've just been
adding it to the tally.
Frex: Ilana mentioned that she liked some 5 or 6 novels (I think) in her
post. They're all in there.
At 07:18 PM 2/16/03 -0500, Erik Reuter wrote:
On Sun, Feb 16, 2003 at 06:23:37PM -0600, Julia Thompson wrote:
Um, was anyone going to be going to school on Monday anyway? It's a
holiday in many parts I think some people had the day off from
work, as well. For those folks, just as well
At 05:17 PM 2/16/03 -0800, Doug Pensinger wrote:
Looks like Earth is starting to pull away with Zim's vote.
I thought that wasn't supposed to happen for another 4 billion years or so
until the Sun started to loose significant quantities of mass, reducing the
gravitational pull on the
I never had to. I think if there were more than X snowdays ( I can't
remember what X is) then we would have to make it up. But we never
exceeded X.
IIRC we had to make them up at the end of the year...
Damon.
Damon Agretto
[EMAIL
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: snowstorm in the Midwest
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 19:29:33 EST
In a message dated 2/16/2003 5:19:32 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Anyone else stuck at home in
No one asked to see the results, but I thought I'd post them anyway just
in case 1 or 2 people are interested :-)
Based on Dan's idea, I extended the calculation of historical GDP
increases under Democratic presidents vs. Republican presidents. What
I calculated was the average annualized real
http://observer.co.uk/international/story/0,6903,896618,00.html
The friendly staff at the Hualian supermarket in a quiet residential area of
Shanghai shake their heads: 'There's no vinegar here - it's been completely
sold out because of the danger.'
Millions of Chinese are stockpiling vinegar as
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/science_medical/story.jsp?story=379048
Parrots, hummingbirds and songbirds - which are able to learn complex,
repetitive songs - have provided scientists with a unique insight into the
origins of syntax, the rules that govern human speech.
A team of
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 2/16/2003 5:19:32 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Anyone else stuck at home in this snowstorm?
...as I'm sitting here in short pants and a tee shirt.
Oh well, I'll get the heat in July etc.
Dan went outside for a
Erik Reuter wrote:
On Sun, Feb 16, 2003 at 08:08:06PM -0600, Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
Did you not have to make up snow days later on in the school year, on
a Saturday or some day which would have otherwise been a holiday?
I never had to. I think if there were more than X snowdays ( I
On Mon, 17 Feb 2003, G. D. Akin wrote:
Both Blood Music and Forge of God were enjoyable reads. Blood Music
is a very chilling tale of biology gone wrong. Forge of God is just as
chilling in an end-of-the-world tale--of which I am a sucker for (my
all-time favorite is Lucifer's Hammer by
so damn tired of reality programming promos.
And because no one seems to have the guts to regulate them, the
in program promos are now taking up a full third of the screen.
Halfway's probably not far behind.
William Taylor
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No good deed goes
unplagerized.
Amercian Gods . . . 2002 Hugo winner and probably even odds on taking
home the Nebula in April as well. I thought it was different, imaginative,
but not anything to write home about or recommend to anyone.
George A
- Original Message -
From: Marvin Long, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:
Is anyone watching this on Cartoon Network?
What a hoot!!!
xponent
A Spoof In The Mold Of Jonny Quest Maru
rob
You are a fluke of the universe.
You have no right to be here.
And whether you can hear it or not,
the universe is laughing behind your back.
Erik Reuter wrote:
On Thu, Feb 13, 2003 at 05:41:26PM -0500, David Hobby wrote:
It seems to me that there could be Rs who never
checked in. Couldn't an R keep visiting the room and
never see B in the up state? Then they would always do
the ELSE clause, S would never get to 22,
Alberto Monteiro wrote:
Chose one Prisoner, M, that will count something. The
other prisioners are P2, P3, ... P23 (n = 23?)
Each prisoner P_n must switch A from 1 to 0, but
he must do it just _twice_.. After that, and when he
finds A in 0, he will only switch B
Prisoner M will switch
Ilana wrote
Well, I can give it a try - the key word is philosophy which is very
close to religion and people are very touchy about their beliefs.
:-)
Jim asked
OK, Ilana. But what is so heinous to some people about her
philosophy? And, for that matter, what is so appealing to others?
I don't
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