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Kerry's "Shrinking Middle Class" -- Still Shrinking in 2003

http://www.factcheck.org/article.aspx?docID=249 In our Aug. 3 article , "Kerry's Dubious Economics," we said Kerry based his claim that "our great middle class is shrinking" on some pretty stale numbers. We said his statement "may well be untrue" because it was based on 2002 figures and didn't acc

Re: Groveling Apologies

On Fri, 10 Sep 2004 17:53:53 -0500, Robert Seeberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Speaking of those who have not been seen in a while > Anyone heard from Chad latelyespecially how he is doing. > I worry about my friends when i don't hear from them. :( I was just thinking about C

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Re: Outlook Express and quoting

Warren Ockrassa wrote: > On Sep 10, 2004, at 4:34 PM, Robert G. Seeberger wrote: > >> Last week I found a nifty little program for Outlook Express called >> OE Quotefix. >> >> http://home.cs.tum.edu/~jain/software/oe-quotefix/ >> >> It fixes some of those annoying habits OE has > > It turns OE into

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Re: Graham book: Inquiry into 9/11, Saudi ties blocked

On Sep 10, 2004, at 3:39 PM, Alberto Monteiro wrote: Warren Ockrassa wrote: 1) Following September 11th, it was clear that letting failed States fester posed a threat to the United States. Oh quit it. What about North Korea, Pakistan or the rapidly re-emergent Russia? I find it baffling that thos

Re: tragic coincidence or commupance?

On Sep 10, 2004, at 4:46 PM, Dave Land wrote: Alberto and Warren are both right: it is a cynical ploy by "news" outlets to drive up ratings, but the justification that it makes it closer to the viewers is also true. I don't think I'm being excessively cynical. It's sad but if you tell an American

Re: Outlook Express and quoting

On Sep 10, 2004, at 4:34 PM, Robert G. Seeberger wrote: Last week I found a nifty little program for Outlook Express called OE Quotefix. http://home.cs.tum.edu/~jain/software/oe-quotefix/ It fixes some of those annoying habits OE has It turns OE into Mail.app? Wow! >;D -- WthmO

Re: Jebus Runs For President

On Sep 10, 2004, at 4:31 PM, Dave Land wrote: On Sep 10, 2004, at 3:54 PM, Alberto Monteiro wrote: The Ancient Name of Jerusalem? I _think_ it was just Salem. Jebus* [the name of the cananite tribe that occupied it] was added as prefix when it was conquered by David. It has been called by many name

Re: tragic coincidence or commupance?

On 10 Sep 2004, at 11:49 pm, Alberto Monteiro wrote: Warren Ockrassa wrote: Same kind of deal as "Queequeg Airlines flight 402 crashed on departure from East Selivinlandia this morning, killing all 500 people aboard, including two Americans." Oh. Well. That makes it all relevant, now doesn't it?

Re: tragic coincidence or commupance?

On Sep 10, 2004, at 4:22 PM, Robert Seeberger wrote: Alberto Monteiro wrote: Warren Ockrassa wrote: Same kind of deal as "Queequeg Airlines flight 402 crashed on departure from East Selivinlandia this morning, killing all 500 people aboard, including two Americans." Oh. Well. That makes it all rele

Outlook Express and quoting

Last week I found a nifty little program for Outlook Express called OE Quotefix. http://home.cs.tum.edu/~jain/software/oe-quotefix/ It fixes some of those annoying habits OE has when quoting emails, and by gosh, it makes emails easier to read. It is also easy to turn features on and off. I'm quit

Re: Jebus Runs For President

On Sep 10, 2004, at 3:54 PM, Alberto Monteiro wrote: The Ancient Name of Jerusalem? I _think_ it was just Salem. Jebus* [the name of the cananite tribe that occupied it] was added as prefix when it was conquered by David. It has been called by many names, of which this is an incomplete list: - Urus

Re: tragic coincidence or commupance?

Alberto Monteiro wrote: > Warren Ockrassa wrote: >> >> Same kind of deal as "Queequeg Airlines flight 402 crashed on >> departure from East Selivinlandia this morning, killing all 500 >> people aboard, including two Americans." >> >> Oh. Well. That makes it all relevant, now doesn't it? >> > When b

Re: Cheney's Mouth is Evil, Why it Must Be Eradicated

On Fri, Sep 10, 2004 at 10:01:40AM -0700, Dave Land wrote: > OK, it's getting to be old news by now, but after telling a member of > Congress to go F*** himself, now the VP is basically saying "Vote for > us or the terrorists win:" > > "It's absolutely essential that eight weeks from today,

Re: Jebus Runs For President

Dave Land wrote: > > The Ancient Name of Jerusalem? > I _think_ it was just Salem. Jebus* [the name of the cananite tribe that occupied it] was added as prefix when it was conquered by David. Alberto Monteiro ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo

Re: tragic coincidence or commupance?

Warren Ockrassa wrote: > > Same kind of deal as "Queequeg Airlines flight 402 crashed on departure > from East Selivinlandia this morning, killing all 500 people aboard, > including two Americans." > > Oh. Well. That makes it all relevant, now doesn't it? > When brazilian newspapers were telling th

Re: Diebold systems contain feature that allows tampering atcentraltabulator

Warren Ockrassa wrote: > > Can't advise there, since I've never run genealogy software of any > kind. > I run a genealogy program all the time. Except that the genealogy program that I wrote has now degenerated so much that it's doing orbit calculations of Jijo's Moons O:-) Alberto Monteiro

Re: tragic coincidence or commupance?

Julia Thompson wrote: > > I didn't find it particularly funny, either. > I once read an analysis that humor is a product of tragedy and time (1st approximation), or tragedy, time and distance. As an example, the author of the text quoted a joke about Jewish Slavery in Ancient Egypt [very funny],

Re: Graham book: Inquiry into 9/11, Saudi ties blocked

Warren Ockrassa wrote: > >> 1) Following September 11th, it was clear that letting failed States >> fester posed a threat to the United States. > > Oh quit it. What about North Korea, Pakistan or the rapidly re-emergent > Russia? I find it baffling that those who advocate bombing the hell out > if

Re: Groveling Apologies

Travis Edmunds wrote: >> From: Dave Land <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Subject: Re: Groveling Apologies >> Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2004 15:23:34 -0700 >> >> On Sep 9, 2004, at 3:19 PM, Nick Arnett wrote: >> >>>

Re: near future Brin speaking gigs

d.brin wrote: > Afternoon of October 1 at UC Berkeley. I will speak at Sproul Plaza > on the 40th anniversary of Mario Savio's rant atop a police car, > which started the famed Berkeley Free Speech Movement. It seems both > cool and weird to be chosen. I plan to talk about "Our Freedom to > Speak

Re: tragic coincidence or commupance?

JDG wrote: > The ironic thing is that if one had to name the political officials > who interfered the most in the *final outcome* of the 2000 election > for Florida's Presidential electors, one would be forced to concede > that the Top Two are: > > > 1) Al Gore, a Democrat, who despite claiming to

Re: Polls

William T Goodall wrote: > On 10 Sep 2004, at 11:28 am, Robert Seeberger wrote: > >> With the kind of connectivity that is common over here (they actually >> give bandwidth away for free at baseball games)(no kidding) it rarely >> enters your mind that you might be causing problems for someone in >

Re: Jebus Runs For President

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Re: Brin-l Digest, Vol 194, Issue 11

On Fri, 10 Sep 2004 16:24:20 -0230, Travis Edmunds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >From: "Robert Seeberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: Re: Brin-l Digest, Vol 194, Issue 11 > >Date: Thu, 9 S

Re: Why bother?

On Sep 10, 2004, at 12:00 PM, Travis Edmunds wrote: From: Maru <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> After reading the whole of Brin's Uplift novels, I find myself puzzled by something: Why undertake the massive, expensive, intricate, and morally tricky process of Uplift at all? There must be some intrinsic rea

Jebus Runs For President

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Re: Why bother?

From: Bryon Daly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Why bother? Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 03:08:41 -0400 On Uplift: As for why the galactics did it: I'm thinking the Progenitors did it for the company, (pres

Re: Why bother?

From: Maru <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Why bother? Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2004 20:12:07 -0700 (PDT) After reading the whole of Brin's Uplift novels, I find myself puzzled by something: Why undertake the massive, expensive, in

Re: Diebold systems contain feature that allows tampering at central tabulator

> From: Dave Land <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > On Sep 9, 2004, at 4:39 PM, William T Goodall wrote: > > > > On 10 Sep 2004, at 12:19 am, Dave Land wrote: > > > >> On Sep 9, 2004, at 3:28 PM, William T Goodall wrote: > >> > >>> Perhaps. OTOH more often one needs to solve a particular problem > >>> rath

Re: Brin-l Digest, Vol 194, Issue 11

From: "Robert Seeberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Brin-l Digest, Vol 194, Issue 11 Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2004 22:37:13 -0500 Maru wrote: > Wouldn't the statute of limitations come into play for der

Re: Is Jennings' 'Jeopardy!' Run Over?

From: Julia Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Is Jennings' 'Jeopardy!' Run Over? Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 13:26:52 -0500 Travis Edmunds wrote: Julia > >Reminds me of the joke, "What's the diffe

Re: Groveling Apologies

From: Dave Land <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Groveling Apologies Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2004 15:23:34 -0700 On Sep 9, 2004, at 3:19 PM, Nick Arnett wrote: William T Goodall wrote: Sorry about that horribl

Re: Is Jennings' 'Jeopardy!' Run Over?

Travis Edmunds wrote: > > >From: Julia Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >>Me > > > > For me it's kinda like watching the opening credits for The Simpsons and > > > seeing the new and innovative ways that the family will deposit > >themselves > > > onto the couch - i.e. Ken writing his name in di

Re: Is Jennings' 'Jeopardy!' Run Over?

From: Julia Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Is Jennings' 'Jeopardy!' Run Over? Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 13:03:41 -0500 I think it's cooler that after 5 days, the contestant gets to come back for

near future Brin speaking gigs

Afternoon of October 1 at UC Berkeley. I will speak at Sproul Plaza on the 40th anniversary of Mario Savio's rant atop a police car, which started the famed Berkeley Free Speech Movement. It seems both cool and weird to be chosen. I plan to talk about "Our Freedom to Speak and Know in the 21st

Re: tragic coincidence or commupance?

On Sep 10, 2004, at 11:09 AM, Dan Minette wrote: - Original Message - From: "Dave Land" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, September 10, 2004 12:36 PM Subject: Re: tragic coincidence or commupance? On Sep 10, 2004, at 10:07 AM, Julia Thompson w

RE: Groveling Apologies

From: William T Goodall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Brin-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Groveling Apologies Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2004 20:37:44 +0100 Sorry about that horrible email barrage there. I screwed up. Too much thinking. I thought that was smoke

Re: tragic coincidence or commupance?

- Original Message - From: "Dave Land" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, September 10, 2004 12:36 PM Subject: Re: tragic coincidence or commupance? > On Sep 10, 2004, at 10:07 AM, Julia Thompson wrote: > > > I was thinking more in terms of,

Re: Is Jennings' 'Jeopardy!' Run Over?

Travis Edmunds wrote: > > >From: David Hobby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: Re: Is Jennings' 'Jeopardy!' Run Over? > >Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2004 21:33:41 -0400 > > >>Travis Edmunds wrote: > > >>I c

Re: The Mercies of The Vatican

From: Julia Randolph <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: The Mercies of The Vatican Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 12:55:38 -0500 On Fri, 10 Sep 2004 15:09:43 -0230, Travis Edmunds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > A

Re: The Mercies of The Vatican

On Fri, 10 Sep 2004 15:09:43 -0230, Travis Edmunds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As for your take on it, I can certainly see where you're coming from, and > can even agree on -'the presence of self-awareness, being almost by > definition other-awareness as well, changes how an I-conscious being >

Re: Is Jennings' 'Jeopardy!' Run Over?

From: David Hobby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Is Jennings' 'Jeopardy!' Run Over? Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2004 21:33:41 -0400 Travis Edmunds wrote: I can't help but root for the guy, and hope against al

Re: tragic coincidence or commupance?

On Sep 10, 2004, at 10:07 AM, Julia Thompson wrote: I'll agree with the second bit (using a nuke to swat a fly), but with hurricanes often the people who get hit the hardest -- here in the states -- do deserve it. They choose not to evacuate, remain behind despite repeated warnings, and then expect

Re: tragic coincidence or commupance?

On Fri, 10 Sep 2004 10:36:12 -0700, Dave Land <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sep 10, 2004, at 10:07 AM, Julia Thompson wrote: > > > I was thinking more in terms of, there's a greater percentage of > > destruction of property at trailer parks than in upscale neighborhoods, > > generally, and it's

Re: tragic coincidence or commupance?

On Sep 10, 2004, at 10:36 AM, Dave Land wrote: On Sep 10, 2004, at 10:07 AM, Julia Thompson wrote: I was thinking more in terms of, there's a greater percentage of destruction of property at trailer parks than in upscale neighborhoods, generally, and it's the people in the upscale neighborhoods wh

Re: The Mercies of The Vatican

From: Warren Ockrassa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: The Mercies of The Vatican Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2004 12:23:04 -0700 Me For we all are individuals and cannot be lumped together in this particular c

Re: Diebold systems contain feature that allows tampering atcentral tabulator

On Fri, 10 Sep 2004 00:39:39 +0100, William T Goodall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 10 Sep 2004, at 12:19 am, Dave Land wrote: > > > On Sep 9, 2004, at 3:28 PM, William T Goodall wrote: > > > >> Perhaps. OTOH more often one needs to solve a particular problem > >> rather than run a particular

Re: tragic coincidence or commupance?

On Sep 10, 2004, at 10:07 AM, Julia Thompson wrote: I was thinking more in terms of, there's a greater percentage of destruction of property at trailer parks than in upscale neighborhoods, generally, and it's the people in the upscale neighborhoods who hold greater economic and political power, hen

Re: Quiet

On Fri, 10 Sep 2004 08:22:00 -0400, JDG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 11:54 AM 9/9/2004 -0700 Dave Land wrote: > >Former Texas Lt. Gov. Ben "helping George Bush get into the National > >Guard was the worst thing I ever did" Barnes was to be interviewed. > > he forgot to add "the worst thing

Re: tragic coincidence or commupance?

On Sep 9, 2004, at 8:43 PM, Robert Seeberger wrote: Dave Land wrote: On Sep 9, 2004, at 6:38 PM, JDG wrote: David doesn't strike me as the "loaded with smileys" type. He (rightly, I think) takes a rather dim view of cheating, thieving morons and the cheating, thieving morons who cheat and steal for

Re: Graham book: Inquiry into 9/11, Saudi ties blocked

On Fri, 10 Sep 2004 08:41:13 -0400, JDG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 02:06 PM 9/7/2004 +1000 Andrew Paul wrote: > >I still want someone to tell me what Iraq has to do with terrorism, > >Or 'had' to do with terrorism, as it may well have a lot to do with it > >in the future. I wish people would s

Re: tragic coincidence or commupance?

Warren Ockrassa wrote: > > On Sep 9, 2004, at 6:57 PM, Julia Thompson wrote: > > > Every time there's a disaster like this, sure, maybe there are some > > folks who deserve it -- but those least at fault are the hardest hit, > > and if there's any sort of justice, a weather system isn't an effici

Re: tragic coincidence or commupance?

Gary Denton wrote: > > On Fri, 10 Sep 2004 01:02:32 -0400, JDG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > 3) The Head of Elections for Palm Beach County, also a Democrat, who > > designed the butterfly ballot that arguably may have resulted in a number > > of intended votes for Al Gore being registered as vot

Cheney's Mouth is Evil, Why it Must Be Eradicated

Folks, OK, it's getting to be old news by now, but after telling a member of Congress to go F*** himself, now the VP is basically saying "Vote for us or the terrorists win:" "It's absolutely essential that eight weeks from today, on November 2nd, we make the right choice. Because

Re: Brin-l Digest, Vol 194, Issue 11

On Thu, 9 Sep 2004 22:16:02 -0700, Warren Ockrassa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sep 9, 2004, at 8:44 PM, Robert Seeberger wrote: > > > Maru wrote: > >> Wouldn't the statute of limitations come into play for dereliction > > of > >> duty during non-war time over thirty years ago? ~Maru > > > > Vi

Re: Graham book: Inquiry into 9/11, Saudi ties blocked

On Sep 10, 2004, at 5:41 AM, JDG wrote: At 02:06 PM 9/7/2004 +1000 Andrew Paul wrote: I still want someone to tell me what Iraq has to do with terrorism, Or 'had' to do with terrorism, as it may well have a lot to do with it in the future. I wish people would stop saying terrorism and Iraq in the s

Re: Why bother?

On Fri, 10 Sep 2004 03:08:41 -0400, Bryon Daly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 9 Sep 2004 20:12:07 -0700 (PDT), Maru <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > After reading the whole of Brin's Uplift novels, I find myself puzzled by > > something: Why undertake the massive, expensive, intricate, and

Re: tragic coincidence or commupance?

On Fri, 10 Sep 2004 01:02:32 -0400, JDG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 3) The Head of Elections for Palm Beach County, also a Democrat, who > designed the butterfly ballot that arguably may have resulted in a number > of intended votes for Al Gore being registered as votes for Pat Buchanan > due to v

RE: Graham book: Inquiry into 9/11, Saudi ties blocked

At 02:06 PM 9/7/2004 +1000 Andrew Paul wrote: >I still want someone to tell me what Iraq has to do with terrorism, >Or 'had' to do with terrorism, as it may well have a lot to do with it >in the future. I wish people would stop saying terrorism and Iraq in >the same sentence, or else explain, with

Re: Quiet

At 11:54 AM 9/9/2004 -0700 Dave Land wrote: >Former Texas Lt. Gov. Ben "helping George Bush get into the National >Guard was the worst thing I ever did" Barnes was to be interviewed. he forgot to add "the worst thing I ever did before becoming a Kerry fundraiser." ;-) JDG _

Re: Polls

On 10 Sep 2004, at 11:28 am, Robert Seeberger wrote: With the kind of connectivity that is common over here (they actually give bandwidth away for free at baseball games)(no kidding) it rarely enters your mind that you might be causing problems for someone in "the developing world". http://www.oecd

Re: Polls

Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten wrote: > Robert G. Seeberger wrote: > >>> From The Century Foundation: >> >> > And you might have had the good grace to add an L3 to that > subjectline. :o) > > Sonja > GCU: Friendly reminder of our etiquette guidelines Sorry, that is my most oft repeated sin. There is

Re: Salon.com News Stung! - complete so you don't have to watch the ad

Gary Denton wrote: Thanks for the service, but you might also have taken that little extra trouble of adding an L3 to your subject line. :o) Sonja GCU: Friendly reminder of our etiquette guidelines :o) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/br

Re: Polls

Robert G. Seeberger wrote: From The Century Foundation: And you might have had the good grace to add an L3 to that subjectline. :o) Sonja GCU: Friendly reminder of our etiquette guidelines ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: tragic coincidence or commupance?

Robert Seeberger wrote: Dave Land wrote: On Sep 9, 2004, at 6:38 PM, JDG wrote: David doesn't strike me as the "loaded with smileys" type. He (rightly, I think) takes a rather dim view of cheating, thieving morons and the cheating, thieving morons who cheat and steal for them. What about th

Re: Why bother?

On Thu, 9 Sep 2004 20:12:07 -0700 (PDT), Maru <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > After reading the whole of Brin's Uplift novels, I find myself puzzled by something: > Why undertake the massive, expensive, intricate, and morally tricky process of > Uplift at all? There must be some intrinsic reason