Re: What should we believe when there is no reliable information?

2006-09-14 Thread John W Redelfs
On 9/13/06, William T Goodall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 13 Sep 2006, at 8:34PM, Dan Minette wrote: > I think she used some four letter words in response to the poll > that stated that somewhere about 30% to 35% of Americans believed that the US > government was somehow involved in 9-11.

Re: What should we believe when there is no reliable information?

2006-09-14 Thread John W Redelfs
On 9/13/06, Gibson Jonathan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Thanks Dan, I guess I missed that message in the bustle of my life. As another after word, every single one of my Archt schoolmates contacted in no way buys the official story. Every one of them cited the pile-up of those vertical support

Re: What should we believe when there is no reliable information?

2006-09-14 Thread Gibson Jonathan
On Sep 13, 2006, at 4:24 PM, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: At 05:49 PM Wednesday 9/13/2006, Gibson Jonathan wrote: Yes, our friends and neighbors live an exceptionally rich fantasy life. On Sep 13, 2006, at 12:38 PM, William T Goodall wrote: On 13 Sep 2006, at 8:34PM, Dan Minette wrote: I think

Re: What should we believe when there is no reliable information?

2006-09-14 Thread Gibson Jonathan
On Sep 13, 2006, at 7:29 PM, Dan Minette wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gibson Jonathan Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 3:24 PM To: Killer Bs Discussion Subject: Re: What should we believe when there is no reliable in

Re: What should we believe when there is no reliable information?

2006-09-14 Thread Richard Baker
JohnR said: > True, oh so true. There are actually irrational people in America who > think that somehow the universe created itself. LOL. Even more amazingly, there are people there who believe that the universe was created by a God who was somehow not ever created. I suppose Americans are be

Re: The Morality of Killing Babies

2006-09-14 Thread John W Redelfs
On 9/12/06, Richard Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: JohnR said: > I may be wrong, because I do not have a lot of confidence in > history, but it is my > understanding that the One Hundred Years War that took place in Europe > following the Protestant Reformation had a huge impact on the > popu

The Fertility Gap

2006-09-14 Thread J.D. Giorgis
A thought-provoking article about the implications of differing fertility rates based on political ideology in the US: http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110008831 JDG __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the bes

Re: The Fertility Gap

2006-09-14 Thread Nick Arnett
On 9/14/06, J.D. Giorgis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: A thought-provoking article about the implications of differing fertility rates based on political ideology in the US: Very interesting... somewhat counter-intuitive, too. And would I be excused if I said, purely for humorous purposes, "F**ki

Re: It takes a village to poison a child's mind

2006-09-14 Thread jdiebremse
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dave Land <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This is why the Democrats will always lose: we lack the will to feed > poisonous lies to children to achieve our ends. Uh huh. > > - It tells students that the United States went to war in Iraq because > > of weapons of ma

Re: The Morality of Killing Babies

2006-09-14 Thread jdiebremse
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "John W Redelfs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > People extol the virtues of abortion Not *all* people, Maru. JDG ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Keep Propaganda Off The Airwaves

2006-09-14 Thread jdiebremse
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], David Hobby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > jdiebremse wrote: > > ... > >>> The ABC television network -- a cog in the Walt Disney empire -- > >> unleashed a promotional blitz in the last week for a new "docudrama" > >> called "The Path to 9/11". ABC has thrown its corpor

Re: Jobs, not trees! (Collapse, Chapter 2)

2006-09-14 Thread jdiebremse
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Charlie Bell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Good question. Where does "devout" become "fanatical"? I think you > >> may be onto something here. > > > > When the choices of others are involved? > > That's a good answer. Of course, under this definition, the Easter Islande

Re: The Morality of Killing Babies

2006-09-14 Thread Nick Arnett
On 9/14/06, jdiebremse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "John W Redelfs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > People extol the virtues of abortion Not *all* people, Maru. Not anybody that I know of. At best, it is a triage decision. At worst, it is murder. Virtue doesn't a

Re: What should we believe when there is no reliable information?

2006-09-14 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Gibson Jonathan wrote: > > Because my simple napkin calc starts with the two eggs, stir & > gestate, and then bake until brought to term... how can two hot- > cross-bun children share one soul? I suppose they could be half- > souls each, depending if Confucius rules apply and the difference >

Re: unholy OS wars

2006-09-14 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 14 Sep 2006 at 3:37, William T Goodall wrote: > OS X also has a significant share in this market with several > supercomputing clusters in use. > > http://www.apple.com/science/ Nope, don't see the American DoD listed there. AndrewC Dawn Falcon

Re: The Fertility Gap

2006-09-14 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Nick Arnett wrote: > > Very interesting... somewhat counter-intuitive, too. > > And would I be excused if I said, purely for humorous purposes, > "F**king conservatives!" > The problem is not with fvck, but with having children. If conservatives were also gays, they could fvck as much as they wa

Re: Keep Propaganda Off The Airwaves

2006-09-14 Thread Alberto Monteiro
JDG wrote: > > Additionally, would you agree or disagree the federal regulators should > engage in political censorship of content on American airwaves, > either all the time, or near the time of an election? > And you only have _two_ parties. Here in Brazil, because of the next election, humou

Re: unholy OS wars

2006-09-14 Thread William T Goodall
On 14 Sep 2006, at 7:42PM, Andrew Crystall wrote: On 14 Sep 2006 at 3:37, William T Goodall wrote: OS X also has a significant share in this market with several supercomputing clusters in use. http://www.apple.com/science/ Nope, don't see the American DoD listed there. A quick Google gi

Re: The Fertility Gap

2006-09-14 Thread William T Goodall
On 14 Sep 2006, at 6:46PM, Nick Arnett wrote: On 9/14/06, J.D. Giorgis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: A thought-provoking article about the implications of differing fertility rates based on political ideology in the US: Very interesting... somewhat counter-intuitive, too. Is it? I always tho

Re: Keep Propaganda Off The Airwaves

2006-09-14 Thread dcaa
I'd say if they ran F911 there would be a deliberate attempt to manipulate the audience via (what I consider a manipulative work). Damon. Damon Agretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum." http://www.geocities.com

Re: What should we believe when there is no reliable information?

2006-09-14 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 09:04 PM Wednesday 9/13/2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 9/13/2006 7:26:15 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: _If_ humans have a spirit (which seemed to be a basic enough assumption in the context not to have to state it explicitly :P) , All we ca

Re: What should we believe when there is no reliable information?

2006-09-14 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 09:17 PM Wednesday 9/13/2006, William T Goodall wrote: If pigs could fly we could bottle their farts and use them to build a time machine Maru If pigs could fly I'd give serious consideration to investing in pith helmets. Quasihomophony Maru -- Ronn! :) "While looking out for numbe

RE: What should we believe when there is no reliable information?

2006-09-14 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 10:00 PM Wednesday 9/13/2006, Ritu wrote: Ronn Blankenship wrote: > IIRC there are some religions > which believe that the baby acquires a spirit or > whatever they call it when s/he takes his/her first breath > outside the womb. >From what was said to me during my pregnancies, I think the

Re: Keep Propaganda Off The Airwaves

2006-09-14 Thread Nick Arnett
On 9/14/06, jdiebremse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: So, if ABC had decided to air Farenheit 9/11 this weekend instead would you all agree or disagree that such an action would be a "bald-faced attempt to slander Republicans and revise history right before Americans vote in a major election?" I t

Re: Jobs, not trees! (Collapse, Chapter 2)

2006-09-14 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Keep Propaganda Off The Airwaves

2006-09-14 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 04:40 PM Thursday 9/14/2006, Nick Arnett wrote: [...] There are many things that I believe are wrong that the government does not neet to try to fix. And some believe that there are so many things wrong _with_ the government that there's no way to fix them all . . . :P -- Ronn! :)

Re: Jobs, not trees! (Collapse, Chapter 2)

2006-09-14 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 04:53 PM Thursday 9/14/2006, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l Hmm. That didn't work. Lemme try something else: Guns, Germs, and Steel: A National Geographic Presentation The Haves and Have-nots 10

Xena? No more . . .

2006-09-14 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
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Re: What should we believe when there is no reliable information?

2006-09-14 Thread Charlie Bell
On 14/09/2006, at 7:26 PM, Gibson Jonathan wrote: Hey, there was a lot of mass and volume to be those structures and it is little wonder some of it spread out. The point we are all scratching our heads over is how they didn't topple off to one side. None of these buildings {though WTC7

Re: Jobs, not trees! (Collapse, Chapter 2)

2006-09-14 Thread Charlie Bell
On 14/09/2006, at 8:58 PM, jdiebremse wrote: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Charlie Bell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Good question. Where does "devout" become "fanatical"? I think you may be onto something here. When the choices of others are involved? That's a good answer. Of course, under th

Re: The Morality of Killing Babies

2006-09-14 Thread Charlie Bell
On 14/09/2006, at 8:59 PM, Nick Arnett wrote: On 9/14/06, jdiebremse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "John W Redelfs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > People extol the virtues of abortion Not *all* people, Maru. Not anybody that I know of. At best, it is a triage dec

Re: The Fertility Gap

2006-09-14 Thread Warren Ockrassa
On Sep 14, 2006, at 10:34 AM, J.D. Giorgis wrote: A thought-provoking article about the implications of differing fertility rates based on political ideology in the US: http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110008831 Yeah, but it forgets that people's politics can change wit

Re: What should we believe when there is no reliable information?

2006-09-14 Thread Warren Ockrassa
On Sep 13, 2006, at 4:24 PM, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: Only if you ass—u—me that whatever a "soul" is, it is contained within a fertilized egg cell. All we can say for sure is that if a living human being requires some sort of spirit or essence or katra or whatever you call it then at some p

Re: It takes a village to poison a child's mind

2006-09-14 Thread Dave Land
On Sep 14, 2006, at 10:48 AM, jdiebremse wrote: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dave Land <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This is why the Democrats will always lose: we lack the will to feed poisonous lies to children to achieve our ends. Uh huh. - It tells students that the United States went to

Re: The Fertility Gap

2006-09-14 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 06:58 PM Thursday 9/14/2006, Warren Ockrassa wrote: On Sep 14, 2006, at 10:34 AM, J.D. Giorgis wrote: A thought-provoking article about the implications of differing fertility rates based on political ideology in the US: http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110008831 Ye

Re: The Fertility Gap

2006-09-14 Thread William T Goodall
On 14 Sep 2006, at 9:37PM, William T Goodall wrote: Is it? I always thought of the Democrats as the party of the man- hating feminist lesbian gender theorists and the Republicans as the 'illiterate, barefoot and pregnant from menarche to menopause' party. I should probably qualify that w

Strange New Planet Baffles Astronomers

2006-09-14 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics Release No.: 06-24 For Release: EMBARGOED UNTIL 10:00 a.m. EDT, September 14, 2006 Note to editors: High-resolution images to accompany this release are online at http://www.cfa.harvard.edu/press/pr0624image.html. Strange New Planet Baffles Astronom

Re: Strange New Planet Baffles Astronomers

2006-09-14 Thread David Hobby
Ronn!Blankenship wrote: ... Strange New Planet Baffles Astronomers Washington, DC - Using a network of small automated telescopes known as HAT, Smithsonian astronomers have discovered a planet unlike any other known world. This new planet, designated HAT-P-1, orbits one member of a pair of di

Re: Strange New Planet Baffles Astronomers

2006-09-14 Thread Medievalbk
It's not a planet, it's a giant light baffle. Vilyehm ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Jobs, not trees! (Collapse, Chapter 2)

2006-09-14 Thread jdiebremse
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Doug Pensinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I guess that I don't understand why it is invalid to also assume that > > warming will increase ocean temperatures, and so increase the number of > > storms. > > I'm just referencing what I've read, John, Here's an article >

Re: Bush, Buchanan, and Hoover

2006-09-14 Thread jdiebremse
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "PAT MATHEWS" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We will know we've reached a turning point when we get a President who puts > the entire nation on a war footing and does not put up with any nonsense > from anyone. I'm keeping my eyes peeled for whoever's out there that will d

Re: Bush, Buchanan, and Hoover

2006-09-14 Thread PAT MATHEWS
I did apologize to Herbert Hoover's ghost! But "Hoover" in the sense that the sewage hit the fan on his watch and he dropped the ball. http://idiotgrrl.livejournal.com/ From: "jdiebremse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion To: Killer Bs Discussion Subject: Re: Bush, Buc

Re: Soldiers Die, CEOs Prosper

2006-09-14 Thread jdiebremse
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Nick Arnett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > A while ago, somebody said "This country isn't at war, only our > military is at war." I think that was profound. It bugs the heck out > of me, to put it mildly, that our leaders ask no one except the troops > to make sacrifices

Re: Morality

2006-09-14 Thread jdiebremse
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Richard Baker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > JDG said: > > > I think you are neglecting the possibility that one might actually be > > true and another might actually be wrong. > > I'm clearly not neglecting that possibility and in fact in this thread > have been fairl

Re: Soldiers Die, CEOs Prosper

2006-09-14 Thread jdiebremse
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Alberto Vieira Ferreira Monteiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Brazilian's current drug civil war may have a body count of > >> this magnitude. If there was a way to trade 100,000 and solve > >> the drug problem, I think I would accept this price. > > > > Easy for you to

Re: Bush, Buchanan, and Hoover

2006-09-14 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 10:54 PM Thursday 9/14/2006, PAT MATHEWS wrote: But "Hoover" in the sense that the sewage hit the fan That's what you get for trying to use a regular vacuum cleaner for that purpose rather than a wet-dry model -- Ronn! :) ___ http://www.mc

Nuclear MAD Re: Soldiers Die, CEOs Prosper

2006-09-14 Thread jdiebremse
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Gibson Jonathan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> Because the USA may be the target of nuclear terrorism. OTOH, > >>> nuclear terrorists might explode a bomb anywhere they can, just > >>> to show they have it. > >> > >> OK. > >> How does this make any difference? We faced

Re: Jobs, not trees! (Collapse, Chapter 2)

2006-09-14 Thread jdiebremse
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I don't think the downfall of Egypt (and WHICH downfalln too?) would be due to resource depletion neccessarily, since the downfall was due to conquest by external forces (with vastly superior organization, resources, etc) at a time when monum

Re: The Morality of Killing Babies

2006-09-14 Thread jdiebremse
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Matt Grimaldi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Jim Sharkey wrote: > > ] The Fool wrote: > ] >E. You know nothing. You are a Fvcking idiot and a troll. > > ] Maybe I missed a memo, but I thought we didn't do this kind of > ] shit around here. IAAMOAC, and all that. > ] >

Re: The Fertility Gap

2006-09-14 Thread Dave Land
On Sep 14, 2006, at 6:02 PM, William T Goodall wrote: On 14 Sep 2006, at 9:37PM, William T Goodall wrote: Is it? I always thought of the Democrats as the party of the man- hating feminist lesbian gender theorists and the Republicans as the 'illiterate, barefoot and pregnant from menarche to m

Re: Strange New Planet Baffles Astronomers

2006-09-14 Thread Warren Ockrassa
On Sep 14, 2006, at 6:24 PM, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: The scientists will continue observing HAT-P-1 to see if such an explanation could hold in this case, but "until we can find an explanation for both of these swollen planets, they remain a great mystery," Sasselov said. Well, until there's

Re: Soldiers Die, CEOs Prosper

2006-09-14 Thread Gibson Jonathan
On Sep 14, 2006, at 8:54 PM, jdiebremse wrote: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Nick Arnett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: A while ago, somebody said "This country isn't at war, only our military is at war." I think that was profound. It bugs the heck out of me, to put it mildly, that our leaders ask

Re: Nuclear MAD Re: Soldiers Die, CEOs Prosper

2006-09-14 Thread Gibson Jonathan
On Sep 14, 2006, at 9:21 PM, jdiebremse wrote: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Gibson Jonathan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Because the USA may be the target of nuclear terrorism. OTOH, nuclear terrorists might explode a bomb anywhere they can, just to show they have it. OK. How does this make an

Re: Morality

2006-09-14 Thread Richard Baker
JDG said: Given the existence of universal truth, I don't see how the number "n" of people who fail to recognize and accept that universal truth is at all relevant. After all, that universal truth is, by definition, universally true. Yes, indeed. But Dan was specifically talking about transc

Re: Jobs, not trees! (Collapse, Chapter 2)

2006-09-14 Thread Richard Baker
JDG said: Additionally, if my memory serves me correctly, Egypt went on to become one of the most important and productive provinces in the Roman Empire. Thus, it hardly seems to have been "depleted." In fact, Egypt was so productive that there were people who argued against its annexati