Re: Adressing Global Warming

2008-04-28 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Ronn! Blankenship wrote: > >> Yeah, bwana, an whail we remane poor and unpoluising, we coze >> no poblema to the envrinoment. > > Just to be clear: you speak (or at least write) English well. > That's natural: English is almost a second language, professionally it sometimes becomes the first la

Re: Adressing Global Warming

2008-04-28 Thread Charlie Bell
On 28/04/2008, at 1:48 AM, Alberto Vieira Ferreira Monteiro wrote: > Charlie Bell wrote: >> >>> Seriously, if we want to save the planet, domestic solar power >>> should >>> be banned! People should live and work in the smallest possible >>> area, >>> and it means packing families in huge buil

Re: Adressing Global Warming

2008-04-28 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 4/27/2008 6:37:07 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The point, however, is that you seldom hear of any rich, white, American environmentalists offering to stop polluting and green the planet by composting themselves . . . ;) . . . ronn! :)

Re: Longshot has a point....

2008-04-28 Thread Nick Arnett
As for the runway... upwind landings must be tricky. Nick On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 3:09 PM, Julia Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://longshot14.livejournal.com/914186.html > > He's blogging about a North Korean military installation being captured on > a satellite image by Google Earth,

Re: What were they thinking? (MS Office 2007)

2008-04-28 Thread Dave Land
Heh, I'm definitely _not_ going to get in a text editor religious war with you along the lines of "emacs is evil; why it should be eradicated", however true that may be. :-). Personally, when I don't use vim, I use BBEdit, and have done for more than a decade. Over my 20-odd years as a Mac user,

Looking for the mouse

2008-04-28 Thread Curtis Burisch
Excellent, excellent article posted on Slashdot today: http://www.herecomeseverybody.org/2008/04/looking-for-the-mouse.html Clay Shirky has been giving talks on his book Here Comes Everybody - his "masterpiece," per Cory Doctorow - and BoingBoing picks up one of

Global Warming

2008-04-28 Thread jon louis mann
The point, however, is that you seldom hear of any rich, white, American environmentalists offering to stop polluting and green the planet by composting themselves . . . ;) . . . ronn! :) poor dark skinned people pollute less, but there are more of them, and rich white people don't want others sh

Global Warming

2008-04-28 Thread jon louis mann
Seriously, if we want to save the planet, domestic solar power should be banned! People should live and work in the smallest possible area and it means packing families in huge buildings. Alberto Monteiro i like the arcology model: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arcosanti jon mann _

culling the species

2008-04-28 Thread jon louis mann
I believe that a major die off is inevitable. (including humanity, which could be a good thing for the planet). the causes will include famine, disease, war and natural disasters, etc. unfortunately, the ethnic cleansing will occur mostly in undeveloped countries. the worst case scenario wo

Re: Adressing Global Warming

2008-04-28 Thread Doug Pensinger
Ronn! wrote: > > > The point, however, is that you seldom hear of any rich, white, > American environmentalists offering to stop polluting and green the > planet by composting themselves . . . ;) > The message I'm getting is that you think environmentalists are inherently racist, but that seems

Re: Adressing Global Warming

2008-04-28 Thread Wayne Eddy
- Original Message - From: "Doug Pensinger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs (David Brin et al) Discussion" Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 6:14 AM Subject: Re: Adressing Global Warming > Ronn! wrote: > >> >> >> The point, however, is that you seldom hear of any rich, white, >> Americ

Re: Looking for the mouse

2008-04-28 Thread Mauro Diotallevi
On 4/28/08, Curtis Burisch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Excellent, excellent article posted on Slashdot today: > > > > http://www.herecomeseverybody.org/2008/04/looking-for-the-mouse.html > That was a truly insightful article. Thanks for sharing. And for those who might be avoiding the article b

Re: culling the species

2008-04-28 Thread Mauro Diotallevi
On 4/28/08, jon louis mann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I believe that a major die off is inevitable. (including humanity, > which could be a good thing for the planet). the causes will include > famine, disease, war and natural disasters, etc. unfortunately, the > ethnic cleansing will occur mo

David Brin's "The Architechs" plays again May 2 on History Channel

2008-04-28 Thread d.brin
In case you missed "The Architechs"* the first time around, set your Tivo to May 2 5am on the History Channel. Fun & worthwhile. (I sure had fun making it.) And it may be the last chance... Thrive-on! david brin *("Five geniuses are challenged: Design better safety/rescue systems for sk

Re: Adressing Global Warming

2008-04-28 Thread Doug Pensinger
Wayne wrote: > > Seems to me, he is just pointing out the irony in the fact that the Green > Movement is a product of affluence which is a product of technology. And > more specifically that the Green movement is antipathetic to the > technology > that has given them the time and resources to be

Re: Adressing Global Warming

2008-04-28 Thread John Garcia
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 8:39 PM, Doug Pensinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Wayne wrote: > > > > > Seems to me, he is just pointing out the irony in the fact that the > Green > > Movement is a product of affluence which is a product of technology. > And > > more specifically that the Green movem

Re: Adressing Global Warming

2008-04-28 Thread Doug Pensinger
John Garcia wrote: > > I suspect that people who are caught up in the daily struggle of > survival, > getting shelter, water, some grains to eat aren't placing the same weight > on > environmental issues as we in the affluent countries are. Shelter, water and food _are_ environmental issues are

Re: Addressing Global Warming

2008-04-28 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 09:29 PM Monday 4/28/2008, Doug Pensinger wrote: >Ronn!'s argument seems to imply that the environmental movement requires >some sort of eugenics to succeed and I find the implication offensive. And what I find offensive is the implication I often get from members of the environmental moveme

Re: culling the species

2008-04-28 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 03:09 PM Monday 4/28/2008, jon louis mann wrote: >personally, i care more about the extinction of plant and animal >species than humanity. Through early morning fog I see visions of the things to be the pains that are withheld for me I realize and I can see... that suicide is painless I

Re: Adressing Global Warming

2008-04-28 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Original Message: - From: Doug Pensinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 18:29:54 -0800 To: brin-l@mccmedia.com Subject: Re: Adressing Global Warming >It's true that if the Chinese continue to adopt modern technology without >heeding environmental concerns, the environ

survival...

2008-04-28 Thread jon louis mann
I suspect that people who are caught up in the daily struggle of survival, getting shelter, water, some grains to eat aren't placing the same weight on environmental issues as we in the affluent countries are. john nor can they afford the luxury of being informed. even if they were, poor people c

culling the species

2008-04-28 Thread jon louis mann
i care more about the extinction of plant and animal species than humanity. jon ... suicide is painless... ...I can take or leave it if I please... I try to find a way to make all our little joys relate without that ever present hate... ...The game of life is hard to play, I'm gonna lose it an

Global Warming

2008-04-28 Thread jon louis mann
what I find offensive is the implication I often get from members of the environmental movement that accomplishing their goals requires some sort of eugenics, with statements like some of them have made like "the carrying capacity of the Earth with people practicing a sustainable lifestyle is at m