Chad Cooper wrote:
>
> Forbes Rating of Worst Commutes to work:
> Greater Los Angeles
> San Fran
> Dallas/Fort Worth
> Houston
> Washington D.C.
> Denver
>
> Nerd From Hell
>
We're number one!
We're number one!
We'renumberone!
Yay!
I've known people who leave home (in San Bernardino, whe
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From: "Julia Thompson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2003 11:50 AM
Subject: Re: New Jersey (was Re: religious/political question)
>
>
> O
On Sat, 8 Nov 2003, Robert Seeberger wrote:
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> From: "Julia Thompson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2003 10:42 AM
> Subject: Re
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From: "Julia Thompson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2003 10:42 AM
Subject: Re: New Jersey (was Re: religious/political question)
> The only times I've been
On Sun, 2 Nov 2003, Gautam Mukunda wrote:
> --- Julia Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Last time any female member of my family was on the
> > Boston subway after
> > dark, someone pointed a gun at her. So I'm a little
> > less enthusiastic
> > about after-hours use of the Boston subwa
At 03:32 PM 11/3/03 -0600, Reggie Bautista wrote:
I wrote:
>Someone else said once in the same newsgroup "Of course, since
>JMS is an atheist, he doesn't believe in hell, anyway."
>jms' reply was "Says you. I'm FROM New Jersey"
Jim replied:
Now, why does everyone have to crack on New Jersey? Ther
--- Chad Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Forbes Rating of Worst Commutes to work:
> Greater Los Angeles
> San Fran
> Dallas/Fort Worth
> Houston
> Washington D.C.
> Denver
I saw this the other day...hard to believe that we're
worse than New York or Boston, but I can vouch for
Dallas bei
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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Reggie Bautista
> Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 01:32 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: New Jersey (was Re: religious/political question)
>
>> Then
I wrote:
>Someone else said once in the same newsgroup "Of course, since
>JMS is an atheist, he doesn't believe in hell, anyway."
>jms' reply was "Says you. I'm FROM New Jersey"
Jim replied:
Now, why does everyone have to crack on New Jersey? There aren't that many
areas in the world where you a
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2003 6:07 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: New Jersey (was Re: religious/political question)
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> > If you want to spend hours commuting to and
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Monorail! Monorail! Monorail!
>
U...Donuts. Is there nothing they can't do?
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> From: Erik Reuter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > but the whole thing of not being *allowed* to pump your own
> gas bugged us.
>
> Me too! My first time I got yelled at for trying (there were no
signs
> telling me!)
Imagine coming from New Jersey to another state. The first time I
went driving
--- Dan Minette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You pinko you. You know that mass transit is the
> second step on the road
> to communism. :-)
>
> Dan M.
Hey, the fact that I like it doesn't make it good
public policy :-) The question of whether it is or
not is open to debate. I _don't know_. T
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From: "Gautam Mukunda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2003 12:32 PM
Subject: Re: New Jersey (was Re: religious/political question)
> --- Julia Thompson <[EMAIL PROT
--- Julia Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Last time any female member of my family was on the
> Boston subway after
> dark, someone pointed a gun at her. So I'm a little
> less enthusiastic
> about after-hours use of the Boston subway than you.
>
> Julia
Wow - I'd never heard of su
On Sun, 2 Nov 2003, Erik Reuter wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 02, 2003 at 10:55:52AM -0600, Julia Thompson wrote:
> > but the whole thing of not being *allowed* to pump your own gas bugged us.
>
> Me too! My first time I got yelled at for trying (there were no signs
> telling me!)
We'd once driven an e
On Sun, 2 Nov 2003, Gautam Mukunda wrote:
> --- Julia Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > The DC Metro system rocks!
> >
> > Julia
>
> As someone who grew up there, I have to say, I'm
> shocked to hear you say it. I always hated the DC
> Metro system because it was:
> 1) Too expensive
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From: "Erik Reuter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2003 2:20 PM
Subject: Re: New Jersey (was Re: religious/political question)
> On Sun, Nov 02, 2003 at 01:32:28PM -06
In a message dated 11/2/03 3:22:10 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> On Sun, Nov 02, 2003 at 01:32:28PM -0600, Robert Seeberger wrote:
>
> > I would prefer a monorail system instead.
>
> Umm, how does it go, is there a danger that the track will bend?
>
"Not on your life, my Hindu friend!"
To
On Sun, Nov 02, 2003 at 01:32:28PM -0600, Robert Seeberger wrote:
> I would prefer a monorail system instead.
Umm, how does it go, is there a danger that the track will bend?
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> I would prefer a monorail system instead.
>
Monorail! Monorail! Monorail!
Tom Beck
www.prydonians.org
www.mercerjewishsingles.org
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last." - Dr Jerry Pournelle
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From: "Jon Gabriel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2003 10:07 AM
Subject: Re: New Jersey (was Re: religious/political question)
> The main thing I notice when I travel is that the subway or rail sys
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From: "Erik Reuter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2003 8:54 AM
Subject: Re: New Jersey (was Re: religious/political question)
> On Sun, Nov 02, 2003 at 01:05
On Sun, Nov 02, 2003 at 10:55:52AM -0600, Julia Thompson wrote:
> but the whole thing of not being *allowed* to pump your own gas bugged us.
Me too! My first time I got yelled at for trying (there were no signs
telling me!)
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On Sun, Nov 02, 2003 at 10:58:52AM -0600, Julia Thompson wrote:
> and have somewhat more regular work than that. Do you see many Mexicans
> with more regular employment than just pick-up work?
Yes, the townhome associations seem to have all Mexicans working for
them.
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--- Julia Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The DC Metro system rocks!
>
> Julia
As someone who grew up there, I have to say, I'm
shocked to hear you say it. I always hated the DC
Metro system because it was:
1) Too expensive and
2) Not extensive
By which I meant that it cost a lot to
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2003 5:53 AM
Subject: Re: New Jersey (was Re: religious/political question)
> > Texas won't stand for such insults Tom!
> >
> Texas is SO touchy. For a
On Sun, 2 Nov 2003, Erik Reuter wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 02, 2003 at 01:05:38AM -0600, Robert Seeberger wrote:
>
> > From this day forward every Mexican I meet will hear about what a
> > wonderful place New Jersey is and how much more money they will make
> > if they move there.
>
> Actually, ther
On Sat, 1 Nov 2003, Jim Sharkey wrote:
> Even a place like DC that has a great public transportation system in
> the Metro winds up with loads of traffic.
You can survive a lot better in DC without a car than you can in, say,
northwest Austin. (Which is still more survivable without a car tha
On Sat, 1 Nov 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> New Jersey gets bad press...mostly by people who have never actually
> been here or whose personal experience is limited to the area around
> Newark Airport...which would be kind of like judging the entire state of
> Alaska only by looking at Prince
On Sat, 1 Nov 2003, Jim Sharkey wrote:
>
> Reggie Bautista wrote:
> >Someone else said once in the same newsgroup "Of course, since
> >JMS is an atheist, he doesn't believe in hell, anyway."
>
> >jms' reply was "Says you. I'm FROM New Jersey"
>
> Now, why does everyone have to crack on Ne
From: Ronn!Blankenship <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: New Jersey (was Re: religious/political question)
Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2003 09:02:19 -0600
At 08:40 AM 11/2/03 -0500, Jim Sharkey w
At 08:40 AM 11/2/03 -0500, Jim Sharkey wrote:
Erik Reuter wrote:
>Jim Sharkey wrote:
>> Even a place like DC that has a great public transportation
>>system in the Metro winds up with loads of traffic.
>In Jersey, there just aren't enough train lines to live next to
>unless you just want to commut
On Sun, Nov 02, 2003 at 08:40:07AM -0500, Jim Sharkey wrote:
> Can anyone cite me an example of good public transportation *into* a
> metropolitan area?
Chicago and Cincinnati both have excellent buses from the suburbs to the
city.
But that isn't the issue. NJ has bad roads, few trains, and horr
On Sun, Nov 02, 2003 at 01:05:38AM -0600, Robert Seeberger wrote:
> From this day forward every Mexican I meet will hear about what a
> wonderful place New Jersey is and how much more money they will make
> if they move there.
Actually, there are quite a few Mexicans living and working in Jersey.
Erik Reuter wrote:
>Jim Sharkey wrote:
>> Even a place like DC that has a great public transportation
>>system in the Metro winds up with loads of traffic.
>In Jersey, there just aren't enough train lines to live next to
>unless you just want to commute to New York or Philly, in which
>case, I'
> Texas won't stand for such insults Tom!
>
Texas is SO touchy. For all its size and bluster, it must really be
nervous and not at all as self-confident as it tries to make itself seem.
> >From this day forward every Mexican I meet will hear about what a
> wonderful
> place New Jersey is an
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2003 7:36 PM
Subject: Re: New Jersey (was Re: religious/political question)
> New Jersey gets bad press...mostly by people who have never actually been
> here
On Sat, Nov 01, 2003 at 09:34:41PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> B) Don't bother arguing with Erik - he's baiting us. There's no point
> responding to his obvious (if lame) attempts at trolling.
Wrong as usual, Tom.
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On Sat, Nov 01, 2003 at 09:32:03PM -0500, Jim Sharkey wrote:
> Even a place like DC that has a great public transportation system in
> the Metro winds up with loads of traffic.
But then you have a CHOICE! You don't have to sit in traffic, you can
take the subway! New York city and Chicago both ha
> It's been my observation that at least part of the problem with improving
> public transportation is that Americans like their cars too much. If the
> state *was* to improve the system, I really don't know how many peope would
> actually take it. And of course, there's the question of who wo
Erik Reuter wrote:
>Or Jersey could build better roads and public transportation
>that doesn't suck!
It's been my observation that at least part of the problem with improving public
transportation is that Americans like their cars too much. If the state *was* to
improve the system, I really d
Erik Reuter wrote:
>No, I don't have to. Face it, Jersey sucks! Don't be a Jersey
>apologist :-)
hehehe, well, I'll admit that we *do* need to apologize big hair, flashing license
plate frames, and ever allowing Joe Pisarcik to be a quarterback. We good? :)
Jim
On Sat, Nov 01, 2003 at 09:13:29PM -0500, Jim Sharkey wrote:
> Exactly. You *could* move to Montana and never see two cars at the
> same time on the roads, but I don't know how many engineers they're
> hiring.
Or Jersey could build better roads and public transportation that
doesn't suck!
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On Sat, Nov 01, 2003 at 09:10:19PM -0500, Jim Sharkey wrote:
> No, it's that if you are going to say that the place sucks because of
> the traffic, you're going to have to say that cities people treat as
> being better than NJ suck too.
No, I don't have to. Face it, Jersey sucks! Don't be a Jerse
On Sat, Nov 01, 2003 at 09:07:26PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> You're acting like New Jersey is somehow uniquely bad in this
> regard. The
No, I'm not. And we won't say what you are acting like :-)
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Tom Beck wrote:
>You're acting like New Jersey is somehow uniquely bad in this
>regard. The traffic near Boston, DC, Long Island, LA, and Atlanta
>is at least at bad and probably worse.
Exactly. You *could* move to Montana and never see two cars at the same time on the
roads, but I don't know
Erik Reuter wrote:
>Jim Sharkey wrote:
>> Traffic's no worse than Atlanta or LA.
>That would be damning with faint praise? Or like saying Fargo has
>nice weather compared to Antarctica?
No, it's that if you are going to say that the place sucks because of the traffic,
you're going to have to sa
> If you want to spend hours commuting to and from work, Jersey's your place
> then!
>
You're acting like New Jersey is somehow uniquely bad in this regard. The
traffic near Boston, DC, Long Island, LA, and Atlanta is at least at bad and
probably worse. The Long Island Expressway is not nickna
> New Jersey gets bad press...mostly by people who
> have never actually been
> here or whose personal experience is limited to the
> area around Newark
> Airport...which would be kind of like judging the
> entire state of Alaska only by looking
> at Prince William Sound immediately after the Ex
On Sat, Nov 01, 2003 at 08:36:51PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Well, bad traffic and poor public transit are not unique to New
> Jersey. At least New Jersey *has* New York and Philly to go to...not
> too many states are situated so favorably between two such terrific
> cities.
If you want t
On Sat, Nov 01, 2003 at 08:29:17PM -0500, Jim Sharkey wrote:
> Traffic's no worse than Atlanta or LA.
That would be damning with faint praise? Or like saying Fargo has nice
weather compared to Antarctica?
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> Transportation sucks. Traffic is horrible, and public transit has poor
> coverage unless you just want to go to New York or Philly.
>
Well, bad traffic and poor public transit are not unique to New Jersey. At
least New Jersey *has* New York and Philly to go to...not too many states are
situat
Erik Reuter wrote:
>Jim Sharkey wrote:
>> Yes, we have toxic waste and obnoxious IROC drivers, but
>>otherwise it's not too bad a place.
>Transportation sucks. Traffic is horrible, and public transit has
>poor coverage unless you just want to go to New York or Philly.
Traffic's no worse than At
On Sat, Nov 01, 2003 at 04:17:31PM -0500, Jim Sharkey wrote:
> Yes, we have toxic waste and obnoxious IROC drivers, but otherwise
> it's not too bad a place. Either that or I'm beyond help, which is
> not out of the realm of possibility.
Transportation sucks. Traffic is horrible, and public tran
Reggie Bautista wrote:
>Someone else said once in the same newsgroup "Of course, since
>JMS is an atheist, he doesn't believe in hell, anyway."
>jms' reply was "Says you. I'm FROM New Jersey"
Now, why does everyone have to crack on New Jersey? There aren't that many areas in
the world wher
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