RE: [Humor] RE: Question Regarding Religion and Atheism

2003-06-27 Thread Horn, John
From: Jon Gabriel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Well... it depends on if the stones are standing upright or not, I guess. :) Why? Did they have too much to drink at the Solstice Party? (Couldn't resist.) - jmh Should Have Maru ___

RE: [Humor] RE: Question Regarding Religion and Atheism

2003-06-27 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 08:29 AM 6/27/03 -0500, Horn, John wrote: From: Jon Gabriel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Well... it depends on if the stones are standing upright or not, I guess. :) Why? Did they have too much to drink at the Solstice Party? No, it's just that the Stones are so old and wasted that they

Re: [Humor] RE: Question Regarding Religion and Atheism

2003-06-26 Thread Erik Reuter
On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 10:34:43PM -0500, Julia Thompson wrote: All of the ones we've owned since we got married (and we got some in 1991) were wired in parallel. But if you pull a bulb *out*, all of them go off. Which can make decorating the tree with Star Trek starships that plug into the

Re: [Humor] RE: Question Regarding Religion and Atheism

2003-06-26 Thread Julia Thompson
Erik Reuter wrote: On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 10:34:43PM -0500, Julia Thompson wrote: All of the ones we've owned since we got married (and we got some in 1991) were wired in parallel. But if you pull a bulb *out*, all of them go off. Which can make decorating the tree with Star Trek

Re: [Humor] RE: Question Regarding Religion and Atheism

2003-06-26 Thread Kevin Tarr
At 07:03 AM 6/26/2003 -0500, you wrote: Erik Reuter wrote: On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 10:34:43PM -0500, Julia Thompson wrote: All of the ones we've owned since we got married (and we got some in 1991) were wired in parallel. But if you pull a bulb *out*, all of them go off. Which can make

Re: [Humor] RE: Question Regarding Religion and Atheism

2003-06-26 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 7:03 AM Subject: Re: [Humor] RE: Question Regarding Religion and Atheism Erik Reuter wrote: On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 10:34:43PM -0500, Julia Thompson

Re: [Humor] RE: Question Regarding Religion and Atheism

2003-06-26 Thread Julia Thompson
Robert Seeberger wrote: BTW...if your Christmas lights burn out *during* the Christmas season, it means that Jesus doesn't love you anymore. G xponent The Beginning Of A New Urban Legend Maru rob Yes, but does he love me any less? :) And which Jesus, anyway? I mean, I've never met

Re: [Humor] RE: Question Regarding Religion and Atheism

2003-06-26 Thread Erik Reuter
On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 05:35:51PM -0500, Robert Seeberger wrote: Nah.its for convenience. It is just a basic series parallel circuit, so you would get 120V if you got Huh? series parallel circuit? I'm not sure we are talking about the same thing. Julia said hers were wired in parallel.

Re: [Humor] RE: Question Regarding Religion and Atheism

2003-06-26 Thread Julia Thompson
Erik Reuter wrote: On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 05:35:51PM -0500, Robert Seeberger wrote: Nah.its for convenience. It is just a basic series parallel circuit, so you would get 120V if you got Huh? series parallel circuit? I'm not sure we are talking about the same thing. Julia said

Re: [Humor] RE: Question Regarding Religion and Atheism

2003-06-26 Thread Robert Seeberger
Replying to both Erik and Julia in a single message. - Original Message - From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 5:57 PM Subject: Re: [Humor] RE: Question Regarding Religion and Atheism Erik Reuter wrote

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2003-06-26 Thread Erik Reuter
On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 06:29:39PM -0500, Robert Seeberger wrote: Your house is wired in parallel. Does removing one lightbulb in your house make them all go out? No, of course not. That tells me that there is something more complex going on with these lights. I guess you missed my post

Re: [Humor] RE: Question Regarding Religion and Atheism

2003-06-26 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 6:42 PM Subject: Re: [Humor] RE: Question Regarding Religion and Atheism On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 06:29:39PM -0500, Robert Seeberger wrote: Your house

Re: [Humor] RE: Question Regarding Religion and Atheism

2003-06-26 Thread Erik Reuter
On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 07:42:20PM -0400, Erik Reuter wrote: On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 06:29:39PM -0500, Robert Seeberger wrote: Do the lamps plug in or screw in? If they plug in they likely have a built in shunt resistor to provide continuity. Plug in, as Julia described. And your

Re: [Humor] RE: Question Regarding Religion and Atheism

2003-06-26 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 7:10 PM Subject: Re: [Humor] RE: Question Regarding Religion and Atheism Incidentally, I've definitely seen packs of bulbs labeled parallel wiring

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2003-06-26 Thread Erik Reuter
On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 07:04:06PM -0500, Robert Seeberger wrote: Like setting your house on fire, eh Erik? Have you ever tried shorting out the smart DC transformers that come with things like notebook computers? They don't set on fire, they don't even get hot. There is a circuit inside that

Re: [Humor] RE: Question Regarding Religion and Atheism

2003-06-26 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 7:10 PM Subject: Re: [Humor] RE: Question Regarding Religion and Atheism The reason I ask is that Rob's hypothesis (that the string is wired in series

Re: [Humor] RE: Question Regarding Religion and Atheism

2003-06-26 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 7:18 PM Subject: Re: [Humor] RE: Question Regarding Religion and Atheism On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 07:04:06PM -0500, Robert Seeberger wrote: Like setting

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2003-06-26 Thread Erik Reuter
On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 07:20:12PM -0500, Robert Seeberger wrote: Thinking further..the easy way to tell would be to look at each individual socket. If it is parallel, you will have 4 wires at each socket. hot in hot out neutral in neutral out or perhaps there is an inline tap point

Re: [Humor] RE: Question Regarding Religion and Atheism

2003-06-26 Thread Erik Reuter
On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 07:25:06PM -0500, Robert Seeberger wrote: But what manufacturer is going to go to such expense for an item such as christmas lights which have little use the rest of the year. (hence the occams razor comment) These things are available as a single chip solid-state DC

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2003-06-26 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 7:34 PM Subject: Re: [Humor] RE: Question Regarding Religion and Atheism On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 07:25:06PM -0500, Robert Seeberger wrote: But what

Re: [Humor] RE: Question Regarding Religion and Atheism

2003-06-26 Thread Erik Reuter
On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 07:56:16PM -0500, Dan Minette wrote: Which is what Christmas lights cost. I've obtained 100 light strings for about $3-$4 retail. So, whatever goes into Christmas lights really has to be cheap and cheerful. The parallel ones I've seen cost about double that. --

Re: [Humor] RE: Question Regarding Religion and Atheism

2003-06-26 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 7:34 PM Subject: Re: [Humor] RE: Question Regarding Religion and Atheism On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 07:25:06PM -0500, Robert Seeberger wrote: But what

Re: [Humor] RE: Question Regarding Religion and Atheism

2003-06-26 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 7:10 PM Subject: Re: [Humor] RE: Question Regarding Religion and Atheism The reason I ask is that Rob's hypothesis (that the string is wired in series

Re: [Humor] RE: Question Regarding Religion and Atheism

2003-06-26 Thread Erik Reuter
On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 07:57:00PM -0500, Robert Seeberger wrote: Sure Erik, but Christmas lights are AC and why would anyone use That is absurd. Lights (i.e., incandescent light bulbs) are not AC. They are resistive filaments. They will work DC or AC. an expensive (relatively) powersupply to

Re: [Humor] RE: Question Regarding Religion and Atheism

2003-06-26 Thread Erik Reuter
On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 08:13:52PM -0500, Robert Seeberger wrote: http://home.howstuffworks.com/christmas-lights2.htm Look for the picture with the shunt wire in the lamp. Thanks for posting that link. Looks like you called it right. It is good to know how things work! But I'm still going to

Re: [Humor] RE: Question Regarding Religion and Atheism

2003-06-26 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 8:19 PM Subject: Re: [Humor] RE: Question Regarding Religion and Atheism On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 07:57:00PM -0500, Robert Seeberger wrote: Sure Erik

Re: [Humor] RE: Question Regarding Religion and Atheism

2003-06-26 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 8:37 PM Subject: Re: [Humor] RE: Question Regarding Religion and Atheism On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 08:13:52PM -0500, Robert Seeberger wrote: http

Re: [Humor] RE: Question Regarding Religion and Atheism

2003-06-26 Thread Russell Chapman
Erik Reuter wrote: By the way, that shunt is interesting. How do you suppose burning a coating off of a wire actually DECREASES the resistance? The only explanation I can come up with is that the coating insulates the wire and keeps it hot, and a hot wire has a higher resistance. I was assuming

Re: [Humor] RE: Question Regarding Religion and Atheism

2003-06-26 Thread Erik Reuter
Incidentally, on the next page of the link that you found, http://home.howstuffworks.com/christmas-lights3.htm The more sophisticated light sets now come with 16-function controllers that can run the lights in all sorts of interesting patterns. In these systems, you typically find a

Re: [Humor] RE: Question Regarding Religion and Atheism

2003-06-26 Thread Erik Reuter
On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 09:18:35PM -0500, Robert Seeberger wrote: During our back and forth challenges I hit upon something close to the mark. Yes, you did. :-) The main reason I was skeptical was that for the first few messages you seemed to completely ignore several things that had been

Re: [Humor] RE: Question Regarding Religion and Atheism

2003-06-26 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 9:36 PM Subject: Re: [Humor] RE: Question Regarding Religion and Atheism Incidentally, on the next page of the link that you found, http

Re: [Humor] RE: Question Regarding Religion and Atheism

2003-06-26 Thread Erik Reuter
On Fri, Jun 27, 2003 at 12:31:27PM +1000, Russell Chapman wrote: Erik Reuter wrote: By the way, that shunt is interesting. How do you suppose burning a coating off of a wire actually DECREASES the resistance? The only explanation I can come up with is that the coating insulates the wire and

Re: [Humor] RE: Question Regarding Religion and Atheism

2003-06-26 Thread Erik Reuter
On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 10:12:06PM -0500, Robert Seeberger wrote: Have you seen the rice lights? Exquisite! I don't think so, unless there is another name for them. What the heck is a rice light? -- Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.erikreuter.net/

Re: [Humor] RE: Question Regarding Religion and Atheism

2003-06-26 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 10:22 PM Subject: Re: [Humor] RE: Question Regarding Religion and Atheism On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 10:12:06PM -0500, Robert Seeberger wrote: Have you

Re: [Humor] RE: Question Regarding Religion and Atheism

2003-06-26 Thread Russell Chapman
Erik Reuter wrote: Another interesting question. I can't think of any quick way to check if your 240V bulbs are the same as our 120V ones. I assume yours look like the picture of the 2.5V mini-bulbs in the link? Even the packaging looks identical - they would all come out of the same factory

Re: [Humor] RE: Question Regarding Religion and Atheism

2003-06-25 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 12:01 PM 6/25/03 -0700, Deborah Harrell wrote: --- Reggie Bautista [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip On the other hand... I have a tee shirt that has a picture of Stonehenge and says, Orthodox Druid on it. I like the shirt because it's a joke -- there is no such thing as orthodoxy among

Re: [Humor] RE: Question Regarding Religion and Atheism

2003-06-25 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Humor] RE: Question Regarding Religion and Atheism Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 14:27:26 -0500 At 12:01 PM 6/25/03 -0700, Deborah Harrell wrote: --- Reggie

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2003-06-25 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- Jon Gabriel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] Deborah Harrell wrote: --- Reggie Bautista wrote: lots of snippage On the other hand... I have a tee shirt that has a picture of Stonehenge and says, Orthodox Druid on it I gave a similar shirt to

Re: [Humor] RE: Question Regarding Religion and Atheism

2003-06-25 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 6/25/2003 2:47:17 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: grin They do have Solstice Parties, and they own LofR on DVD; his wife (a fellow equestrienne, who in fact introduced me to Darby and the neighborhood 'horsey set') and I have organized Winter

Re: [Humor] RE: Question Regarding Religion and Atheism

2003-06-25 Thread Erik Reuter
On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 04:11:41PM -0400, Jon Gabriel wrote: Wait, if one bulb goes out, they all go out, no? How'd they do that? Aren't those things linear circuits? You mean wired in series. The cheapest ones are, and all of the older ones I've seen. But in the past 5-10 years I've noticed

Re: [Humor] RE: Question Regarding Religion and Atheism

2003-06-25 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: Deborah Harrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Humor] RE: Question Regarding Religion and Atheism Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 14:46:25 -0700 (PDT) --- Jon Gabriel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Ronn

Re: [Humor] RE: Question Regarding Religion and Atheism

2003-06-25 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Humor] RE: Question Regarding Religion and Atheism Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 18:19:24 -0400 On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 04:11:41PM -0400, Jon Gabriel wrote: Wait

Re: [Humor] RE: Question Regarding Religion and Atheism

2003-06-25 Thread Julia Thompson
Jon Gabriel wrote: From: Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Humor] RE: Question Regarding Religion and Atheism Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 18:19:24 -0400 On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 04:11:41PM