Re: An armed society

2008-10-28 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Oct 27, 2008, at 3:30 PM, Julia Thompson wrote: Then again, an armed society is a polite society .. Bruce, We have found that in general Americans are the politest people we have met. They are also incredibly welcoming and friendly. We have certainly speculated if this was in part due

RE: An armed society, ( was distribute the wealth)

2008-10-27 Thread Ray Maree Ludenia
On Mon 10/27/2008 6:39 AM Bruce Bostwick wrote Then again, an armed society is a polite society .. Bruce, We have found that in general Americans are the politest people we have met. They are also incredibly welcoming and friendly. We have certainly speculated if this was in part due to

Re: An armed society

2008-10-27 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Lt Saavik wrote: We have found that in general Americans are the politest people we have met. They are also incredibly welcoming and friendly. We have certainly speculated if this was in part due to the variety of arms we have seen. I still shudder when a truck pulled up next to us

Re: An armed society

2008-10-27 Thread Julia Thompson
On Mon, 27 Oct 2008, Jon Louis Mann wrote: Then again, an armed society is a polite society .. Bruce, We have found that in general Americans are the politest people we have met. They are also incredibly welcoming and friendly. We have certainly speculated if this was in part due to

Re: An armed society

2008-10-27 Thread Jon Louis Mann
If you're trying to put food on the table, you may want more than one rifle for doing so. (Plus, if you're in rattlesnake country, you want a sidearm in case you find yourself too close to a rattler. Just remember to take the damn thing out of your bag before you go to the airport

Re: An armed society

2008-10-27 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 03:30 PM Monday 10/27/2008, Julia Thompson wrote: On Mon, 27 Oct 2008, Jon Louis Mann wrote: Then again, an armed society is a polite society .. An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life. — Robert A. Heinlein, _Beyond

Re: An armed society

2008-10-27 Thread Julia Thompson
On Mon, 27 Oct 2008, Ronn! Blankenship wrote: At 03:30 PM Monday 10/27/2008, Julia Thompson wrote: If you're trying to put food on the table, you may want more than one rifle for doing so. (Plus, if you're in rattlesnake country, you want a sidearm in case you find yourself too close to a

Re: My annual Xmas tirade... Was RE: An armed society ...

2005-12-22 Thread William T Goodall
On 22 Dec 2005, at 3:07 am, Russell Chapman wrote: William T Goodall wrote: Microsoft attained its dominant position in the personal computer software business through 1) Luck 2) Illegal business practices 3) The mistakes of its competitors and since a) Luck eventually runs out b)

Re: My annual Xmas tirade... Was RE: An armed society ...

2005-12-21 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 11:53 PM Subject: Re: My annual Xmas tirade... Was RE: An armed society ... But I think a comparison of Wal-Mart and Microsoft with regard

Re: My annual Xmas tirade... Was RE: An armed society ...

2005-12-21 Thread Max Battcher
I play Microsoft's advocate from time to time, because as evil as people think they are they are more often just misunderstood, IMNSHO. People seem to anthropomorphized Microsoft into the demi-God of computer problems. Dan Minette wrote: What percentage of the operating systems business does

Re: My annual Xmas tirade... Was RE: An armed society ...

2005-12-21 Thread William T Goodall
On 21 Dec 2005, at 8:28 am, Max Battcher wrote: I play Microsoft's advocate from time to time, because as evil as people think they are they are more often just misunderstood, IMNSHO. However evil people think Microsoft is it is actually more evil than that :) People seem to

Re: My annual Xmas tirade... Was RE: An armed society ...

2005-12-21 Thread Jim Sharkey
William T Goodall wrote: Max Battcher wrote: Last time I saw anything: 75-80% total, 50% or less of the Server market, 50% or less of the nerd market. Whatever the peak was it's certainly in decline now. Yeah, Gates is letting his guard slip with all that sissy-ass philanthropy Bono's got him

Re: My annual Xmas tirade... Was RE: An armed society ...

2005-12-21 Thread Dave Land
On Dec 20, 2005, at 8:57 PM, Dan Minette wrote: From: The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ineffiencies *are* the economy. Perfect efficiencies would lead to 0% employment and complete economic collapse. Ah, so that explains why the economy of the Soviet Union outperformed the US for so long.

Re: My annual Xmas tirade... Was RE: An armed society ...

2005-12-21 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: Dave Land [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 4:46 PM Subject: Re: My annual Xmas tirade... Was RE: An armed society ... On Dec 20, 2005, at 8:57 PM, Dan Minette wrote: From: The Fool [EMAIL

Re: My annual Xmas tirade... Was RE: An armed society ...

2005-12-21 Thread Dave Land
On Dec 21, 2005, at 3:52 PM, Dan Minette wrote: - Original Message - From: Dave Land [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Dec 20, 2005, at 8:57 PM, Dan Minette wrote: From: The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ineffiencies *are* the economy. Perfect efficiencies would lead to 0% employment and complete

Re: My annual Xmas tirade... Was RE: An armed society ...

2005-12-21 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: Dave Land [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 6:03 PM Subject: Re: My annual Xmas tirade... Was RE: An armed society ... It may have had something to do with a small cadre of power-hungry

Re: My annual Xmas tirade... Was RE: An armed society ...

2005-12-21 Thread William T Goodall
On 21 Dec 2005, at 7:04 pm, Jim Sharkey wrote: William T Goodall wrote: Max Battcher wrote: Last time I saw anything: 75-80% total, 50% or less of the Server market, 50% or less of the nerd market. Whatever the peak was it's certainly in decline now. Yeah, Gates is letting his guard slip

Re: My annual Xmas tirade... Was RE: An armed society ...

2005-12-21 Thread Russell Chapman
William T Goodall wrote: Microsoft attained its dominant position in the personal computer software business through 1) Luck 2) Illegal business practices 3) The mistakes of its competitors and since a) Luck eventually runs out b) Microsoft is now closely scrutinised to ensure it doesn't

Re: My annual Xmas tirade... Was RE: An armed society ...

2005-12-21 Thread Julia Thompson
Jim Sharkey wrote: William T Goodall wrote: Max Battcher wrote: Last time I saw anything: 75-80% total, 50% or less of the Server market, 50% or less of the nerd market. Whatever the peak was it's certainly in decline now. Yeah, Gates is letting his guard slip with all that sissy-ass

Re: My annual Xmas tirade... Was RE: An armed society ...

2005-12-20 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: Dave Land [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 6:35 PM Subject: Re: My annual Xmas tirade... Was RE: An armed society ... On Dec 4, 2005, at 11:16 AM, Gary Nunn wrote: Driving to work, at 5:00 am

Re: My annual Xmas tirade... Was RE: An armed society ...

2005-12-20 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 4:56 PM Subject: Re: My annual Xmas tirade... Was RE: An armed society ... - Original Message - From: Dave Land [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: My annual Xmas tirade... Was RE: An armed society ...

2005-12-20 Thread The Fool
From: Robert Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Dave Land [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Dec 4, 2005, at 11:16 AM, Gary Nunn wrote: Driving to work, at 5:00 am that morning was a REAL eye-opener. I was astounded at the number of people at the

Re: My annual Xmas tirade... Was RE: An armed society ...

2005-12-20 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 9:52 PM Subject: Re: My annual Xmas tirade... Was RE: An armed society ... Ineffiencies *are* the economy. Perfect efficiencies would lead to 0

Re: My annual Xmas tirade... Was RE: An armed society ...

2005-12-20 Thread Dan Minette
But I think a comparison of Wal-Mart and Microsoft with regard to their business practices, why people dislike them, and why one and not the other has spent time in court over business practices would be edifying. I assume there are more similarities than one might expect at first glance.

Re: An armed society ...

2005-12-07 Thread Robert J. Chassell
Robert Seeberger wrote, ... How would the westward movement of settlers have been implimented without weaponry superior (in most but not all ways) to the weaponry available to the aboriginal residents (Injuns pardner)? I have heard -- but I cannot remember where -- that in the

Re: An armed society ...

2005-12-06 Thread Robert J. Chassell
The greatest effect firearms have had upon history is to remove the advantage the large and powerful have always had over the small and weak. Is that true in a practical sense? Tzarist Russian was called a `musket empire' because its soldiers used muskets to put down the natives. In

Re: An armed society ...

2005-12-06 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: Robert J. Chassell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: brin-l@mccmedia.com Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 6:38 PM Subject: Re: An armed society ... The greatest effect firearms have had upon history is to remove the advantage the large and powerful have always

Re: My annual Xmas tirade... Was RE: An armed society ...

2005-12-05 Thread Mauro Diotallevi
On 12/4/05, Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Several years ago when Tickle Me Elmo was the hot, impossible-to-find item, I responded by getting one of the little 5-inch-or-so-high Elmos, tying a noose around its neck, and hanging it from the post my mailbox is attached to with a sign

Re: My annual Xmas tirade... Was RE: An armed society ...

2005-12-05 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 1:18 AM Subject: Re: My annual Xmas tirade... Was RE: An armed society ... I dated a girl who wanted me to pick anything I wanted for our song

Re: My annual Xmas tirade... Was RE: An armed society ...

2005-12-05 Thread The Fool
From: Robert Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] I dated a girl who wanted me to pick anything I wanted for our song. For some reason, she seemed disappointed when I chose the hokey Pokey . . . Ronn!?..Have you been drinking the distillate

Re: My annual Xmas tirade... Was RE: An armed society ...

2005-12-05 Thread Dave Land
On Dec 4, 2005, at 11:16 AM, Gary Nunn wrote: Driving to work, at 5:00 am that morning was a REAL eye-opener. I was astounded at the number of people at the Super Wal-Mart. I made the mistake of stopping there to pick up donuts on the way to work OK, I'm home sick from work today, and in

RE: An armed society ...

2005-12-05 Thread Dave Land
Ritu wrote: You don't have to be fan of SF to appreciate what he was trying to say. According to my observations, the more lethal the members of a society are, the more emphasis the social norms lay on politeness. As John explained to me in Korea, when a stare is taken as an invitation for

Re: My annual Xmas tirade... Was RE: An armed society ...

2005-12-05 Thread Russell Chapman
Dave Land wrote: PS: Much as I want to, I cannot say that I have never set foot inside a Wal-Mart. Once, in San Diego, I went into one to extract my wife and child who, ignoring my protests, went in to some kind of super ultra mega Wal-Mart monstrosity to buy a pair of sunglasses. I've

Re: An armed society ...

2005-12-05 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: Dave Land [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 6:53 PM Subject: RE: An armed society ... Ritu wrote: You don't have to be fan of SF to appreciate what he was trying to say. According to my

Re: My annual Xmas tirade... Was RE: An armed society ...

2005-12-05 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 06:35 PM Monday 12/5/2005, Dave Land wrote: On Dec 4, 2005, at 11:16 AM, Gary Nunn wrote: Driving to work, at 5:00 am that morning was a REAL eye-opener. I was astounded at the number of people at the Super Wal-Mart. I made the mistake of stopping there to pick up donuts on the way to work

Re: An armed society ...

2005-12-05 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 08:05 PM Monday 12/5/2005, Robert Seeberger wrote: - Original Message - From: Dave Land [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 6:53 PM Subject: RE: An armed society ... Ritu wrote: You don't have to be fan of SF

Re: An armed society ...

2005-12-05 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 8:11 PM Subject: Re: An armed society ... At 08:05 PM Monday 12/5/2005, Robert Seeberger wrote: - Original Message - From: Dave Land

RE: An armed society ...

2005-12-05 Thread Ritu
Dave Land wrote: First, with respect to the idea behind the Heinlein quote, it is generally true that (reasonable) people are scrupulously polite in the face of deadly force. Yep. An armed society is a society in which everyone is capable of dealing death. I will not live in

Re: An armed society ...

2005-12-05 Thread Dave Land
On Dec 5, 2005, at 6:05 PM, Robert Seeberger wrote: (With tongue firmly in cheek, one hopes) Lest we forget that swords can cut with two edges... The greatest effect firearms have had upon history is to remove the advantage the large and powerful have always had over

Re: An armed society ...

2005-12-05 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 08:26 PM Monday 12/5/2005, Robert Seeberger wrote: - Original Message - From: Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 8:11 PM Subject: Re: An armed society ... At 08:05 PM Monday 12/5/2005, Robert Seeberger

My annual Xmas tirade... Was RE: An armed society ...

2005-12-04 Thread Gary Nunn
Mr. House Of Pain Maru wrote... Wishes may never become fishes, and unfortunate as it may be, people most often are not polite unless there is some overriding reason to be polite. Rob's wisdom is a great segue into my Annual Christmas Rant. For the first time in my work career, I had to

My annual Xmas tirade... Was RE: An armed society ...

2005-12-04 Thread Jim Sharkey
Gary Nunn wrote: Is it because manufactures create an artificial shortage of popular products to sell other products when the Limited Editions sell out? In my opinion, it's because far too many parents feel that they have to purchase their children's love. My understanding is that a full 10%

Re: My annual Xmas tirade... Was RE: An armed society ...

2005-12-04 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 01:16 PM Sunday 12/4/2005, Gary Nunn wrote: Mr. House Of Pain Maru wrote... Wishes may never become fishes, and unfortunate as it may be, people most often are not polite unless there is some overriding reason to be polite. Rob's wisdom is a great segue into my Annual Christmas Rant. For

Re: My annual Xmas tirade... Was RE: An armed society ...

2005-12-04 Thread Julia Thompson
Ronn!Blankenship wrote: At 01:16 PM Sunday 12/4/2005, Gary Nunn wrote: What are these people thinking when they bring young children to shop for others and then are mean and nasty to the kids because they naturally want toys that they see? Maybe they could not find a baby sitter

Re: My annual Xmas tirade... Was RE: An armed society ...

2005-12-04 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 11:54 PM Sunday 12/4/2005, Julia Thompson wrote: Ronn!Blankenship wrote: At 01:16 PM Sunday 12/4/2005, Gary Nunn wrote: What are these people thinking when they bring young children to shop for others and then are mean and nasty to the kids because they naturally want toys that they see?

Re: An armed society ...

2005-12-03 Thread Julia Thompson
Dave Land wrote: On Nov 30, 2005, at 1:58 PM, Robert J. Chassell wrote: An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life. -- Robert A. Heinlein, _Beyond the Horizon_, 1942 I am not much of a sci-fi fan, and I suspect that

RE: An armed society ...

2005-12-03 Thread Ritu
Dave Land wrote: On Nov 30, 2005, at 1:58 PM, Robert J. Chassell wrote: An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life. -- Robert A. Heinlein, _Beyond the Horizon_, 1942 I am not much of a sci-fi fan, and I

Re: An armed society ...

2005-12-03 Thread Doug Pensinger
Ritu wrote: You don't have to be fan of SF to appreciate what he was trying to say. According to my observations, the more lethal the members of a society are, the more emphasis the social norms lay on politeness. As John explained to me in Korea, when a stare is taken as an invitation for

Re: An armed society ...

2005-12-03 Thread Robert Seeberger
Doug Pensinger wrote: Ritu wrote: You don't have to be fan of SF to appreciate what he was trying to say. According to my observations, the more lethal the members of a society are, the more emphasis the social norms lay on politeness. As John explained to me in Korea, when a stare is taken

Re: An armed society ...

2005-12-01 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Dave Land wrote: An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life. -- Robert A. Heinlein, _Beyond the Horizon_, 1942 I am not much of a sci-fi fan, Die, heretic scum! and I suspect that there may be one or two in this

Re: An armed society ...

2005-11-30 Thread Dave Land
On Nov 30, 2005, at 1:58 PM, Robert J. Chassell wrote: An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life. -- Robert A. Heinlein, _Beyond the Horizon_, 1942 I am not much of a sci-fi fan, and I suspect that there may be one

Re: An armed society ...

2005-11-30 Thread Alex Gogan
On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 15:14:34 -0800 Dave Land [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 30, 2005, at 1:58 PM, Robert J. Chassell wrote: An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life. -- Robert A. Heinlein, _Beyond the

Re: An armed society ...

2005-11-30 Thread Robert Seeberger
Dave Land wrote: On Nov 30, 2005, at 1:58 PM, Robert J. Chassell wrote: An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life. -- Robert A. Heinlein, _Beyond the Horizon_, 1942 I am not much of a sci-fi fan, and I suspect