Re: Early voting

2008-11-02 Thread Charlie Bell
On 03/11/2008, at 8:27 AM, Julia Thompson wrote: > Oh, and I'm not under 35, either. :) I am for 2 more weeks... :-o > I have no idea how old I *look* > anymore, even. I'm not going anywhere near that one. :-) Charlie. Who Is Taking A Day Off Work To Watch The US Election Coverage Maru.

Re: Early voting

2008-11-02 Thread Nick Arnett
On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 2:18 PM, Bryon Daly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Anyone else do early voting? How long did you wait? Would you have > waited > 2+ hours to do it early? > > I was surprised by the lack of supporters or even signs at the voting > location. I s

Re: Early voting

2008-11-02 Thread Julia Thompson
On Sun, 2 Nov 2008, Bryon Daly wrote: > I did the early voting thing on Friday down here in Orlando. Some of the > locations were reporting 2+ hour waits, but it was about 45 minutes wait for > me. I had the day off, so the wait wasn't bad, but I'm quite puzzled about >

Early voting

2008-11-02 Thread Bryon Daly
I did the early voting thing on Friday down here in Orlando. Some of the locations were reporting 2+ hour waits, but it was about 45 minutes wait for me. I had the day off, so the wait wasn't bad, but I'm quite puzzled about the people waiting 2+ hours around here, or as long as 10+ ho

More on electronic voting

2006-10-23 Thread Deborah Harrell
Oh, goody... http://news.yahoo.com/s/nf/20061023/tc_nf/47233 Proponents of electronic voting have found themselves again on the defensive following the unauthorized release of software for voting machines used by the State of Maryland and manufactured by Diebold Election Systems. The apparent

Re: Brin: California Recertifies Hackable Diebold Voting Machines

2006-02-21 Thread Dave Land
On Feb 21, 2006, at 4:29 AM, Klaus Stock wrote: Dave Land <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: PS: This is one reason that Peggy and I are registered for permanent absentee voter status. Well...perhaps you'll vote in 2006 for a change. Although you might not be aware of your "vote" =:-O Moreover,

Re: Brin: California Recertifies Hackable Diebold Voting Machines

2006-02-21 Thread Klaus Stock
Dave Land <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > PS: This is one reason that Peggy and I are registered for > permanent absentee voter status. Well...perhaps you'll vote in 2006 for a change. Although you might not be aware of your "vote" =:-O - Klaus ;-) _

Re: Brin: California Recertifies Hackable Diebold Voting Machines

2006-02-20 Thread Dave Land
On Feb 17, 2006, at 6:49 PM, The Fool wrote: <> What's your beef? It's not like we're *Americans*, for Krum's sake... We're Californians. We're Granola. Those of use who aren't fruits and nuts are flakes. Our votes don't and shouldn't cou

Brin: California Recertifies Hackable Diebold Voting Machines

2006-02-17 Thread The Fool
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Re: US voting reform idea

2005-05-01 Thread Frank Schmidt
> Frank Schmidt wrote: > > *attempting to process* > > I guess that means that he shows professional courtesy in not trying > > to piss people off. I don't think that will change the way he votes. > > Then there's pork barrel spending; he'll vote for things good for > > his > > district, and you m

Re: US voting reform idea

2005-04-28 Thread Robert Seeberger
Frank Schmidt wrote: > *attempting to process* > I guess that means that he shows professional courtesy in not trying > to piss people off. I don't think that will change the way he votes. > Then there's pork barrel spending; he'll vote for things good for > his > district, and you might benefit f

Re: US voting reform idea

2005-04-28 Thread Frank Schmidt
> > > > I find the difference between the voters for district winners and > > the voters for other candidates more of a problem. The first group > > has 435 Representatives, the other has none. The real problem is > > that the most voters will either always be in the

Re: US voting reform idea

2005-04-27 Thread Robert Seeberger
, so your > proposed change would probably make the situation much less > desireable by your standards. > > I find the difference between the voters for district winners and > the > voters for other candidates more of a problem. The first group has > 435 > Representatives, the other has

Re: US voting reform idea

2005-04-27 Thread Frank Schmidt
t group has 435 Representatives, the other has none. The real problem is that the most voters will either always be in the first group, or always be in the second group; relatively few change between the groups. Many in the losing group have already given up voting because of that. -- Fran

Re: US voting reform idea

2005-04-27 Thread Robert Seeberger
Ronn!Blankenship wrote: > At 09:09 PM Tuesday 4/26/2005, Robert Seeberger wrote: > >> This would be addressed by returning to the system where every >> representative had an equal number of constituents. We would gain a >> crapload of reps, but then democracy isn't free is it? > > > IIRC, the figur

Re: US voting reform idea

2005-04-27 Thread Robert Seeberger
Ronn!Blankenship wrote: > At 09:09 PM Tuesday 4/26/2005, Robert Seeberger wrote: > >> This would be addressed by returning to the system where every >> representative had an equal number of constituents. We would gain a >> crapload of reps, but then democracy isn't free is it? > > > IIRC, the figur

Re: US voting reform idea

2005-04-26 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 09:09 PM Tuesday 4/26/2005, Robert Seeberger wrote: This would be addressed by returning to the system where every representative had an equal number of constituents. We would gain a crapload of reps, but then democracy isn't free is it? IIRC, the figure of 8000+ members of the House I mentione

Re: US voting reform idea

2005-04-26 Thread Robert Seeberger
Frank Schmidt wrote: > Count Maru wrote: >> Erik Reuter wrote: >>> The electors themselves are mostly irrelevant >>> (although they could conceivably suprise someday) >>> but the Electoral College itself does have some >>> interesting properties as compared to a straight >>> majority vote: >>> >>>

Re: US voting reform idea

2005-04-26 Thread Frank Schmidt
es a situation where 51% vote for one side and 49% for the other, and but many of the 51% are concentrated in one state, while the 49%, winning two states, would win the election. He asserts the 51% are the bad side, and does not take into account that it might be the other way around. He also states that

Re: US voting reform idea

2005-04-25 Thread Robert Seeberger
Erik Reuter wrote: > > The electors themselves are mostly irrelevant (although they could > conceivably suprise someday) but the Electoral College itself does > have some interesting properties as compared to a straight majority > vote: > > > > > From the Archive: Math Against Tyranny > By Will Hiv

Re: US voting reform idea

2005-04-25 Thread Erik Reuter
is group of ordinary citizens, elected by all who vote, elects, in turn, the nation's president and vice president. Though the college still stood, Natapoff worried that sometime soon, well-meaning reformers might try again to destroy it. The only way to prevent such a tragedy, he thought, would

Re: US voting reform idea

2005-04-25 Thread Frank Schmidt
> There has been a great deal of work on voting > science over the past ~200 years. Unfortunately, > the conclusions are "it depends". Is the system > you describe better than the current system? It > depends on what is considered important. > > Here is a summary

Re: US voting reform idea

2005-04-24 Thread Erik Reuter
There has been a great deal of work on voting science over the past ~200 years. Unfortunately, the conclusions are "it depends". Is the system you describe better than the current system? It depends on what is considered important. Here is a summary of vote aggregation methods and so

Re: US voting reform idea

2005-04-24 Thread Frank Schmidt
> A few comments interspersed: A lot of my previous mail snipped to which Ronn didn't respond. > At 12:07 PM Sunday 4/24/2005, Frank Schmidt wrote: > >Other points are a constitutional right to vote (currently > >excluding someone from voting is illegal if it’s because

Re: US voting reform idea

2005-04-24 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
A few comments interspersed: At 12:07 PM Sunday 4/24/2005, Frank Schmidt wrote: Several months ago, I found the website of the Center for Voting and Democracy (CVD) at www.fairvote.org. If I had to sum up their program in once sentence, they want every US citizen to be able to cast a vote that

US voting reform idea

2005-04-24 Thread Frank Schmidt
Several months ago, I found the website of the Center for Voting and Democracy (CVD) at www.fairvote.org. If I had to sum up their program in once sentence, they want every US citizen to be able to cast a vote that matters. One of their reform ideas, Instant Runoff Voting (IRV), is being supported

voting irregularities.

2004-12-17 Thread d.brin
http://uscountvotes.org/ A group of independent mathematicians, statisticians and computer professionals has formed a new, volunteer scientific research project to objectively investigate the accuracy of elections in America. Voting accuracy is a controversial topic: The "Help America Vot

GAO investigation of e-voting problems

2004-11-13 Thread Gary Nunn
>From the Government Computer News GAO investigation of e-voting problems requested 11/11/04 By William Jackson, GCN Staff Half-a-dozen Democratic congressmen have asked the Government Accountability Office to investigate reports of voting irregularities in the Nov. 2 election, many

Voting machines in Florida

2004-10-30 Thread Erik Reuter
This is a video about voting machines in Florida. Unfortunately only available in Windows Media or Quicktime format, and you really need sound to appreciate it, but I think it is worth the effort http://www.boomchicago.nl/Section/Videos/BoomChicagoVotingMachine

Re: Electronic Voting joke with 900k

2004-10-24 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Julia Thompson wrote: > > Put it on a web page and post the URL, would be my suggestion. > > Why such a big joke? Is it an image, such as a cartoon? > Problem is: I don't know if it's a copyrighted movie, because I only got the file, without any link or reference. I think that circulating among a

Re: Electronic Voting joke with 900k

2004-10-23 Thread Julia Thompson
Alberto Monteiro wrote: > > I got a joke about the electronic voting machine in Florida, it's about 900k. > How can I make it public to the list? > > Alberto Monteiro Put it on a web page and post the URL, would be my suggestion. Why such a big joke? Is it an imag

Electronic Voting joke with 900k

2004-10-23 Thread Alberto Monteiro
I got a joke about the electronic voting machine in Florida, it's about 900k. How can I make it public to the list? Alberto Monteiro ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: My Maryland, My Maryland Re: Voting Re: Pledge of Allegence

2004-03-08 Thread William T Goodall
On 8 Mar 2004, at 2:33 am, John D. Giorgis wrote: Anyhow, the first time I heard a performance of "My Maryland, My Maryland" was at a living history/folk music performance in Gettysburg, PA. I think that they tok some liberties with the lyrics, by adding a few more ronuds of "My Maryland, My M

My Maryland, My Maryland Re: Voting Re: Pledge of Allegence

2004-03-07 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 09:35 PM 3/6/2004 -0800 Gautam Mukunda wrote: >Could I say, as a Marylander since about the second >day of my life (I was born in Washington DC) how much >I _hate_ that song? I mean really, really hate that >song. The state needs to get rid of it pretty much >immediately. Well, I have somewha

Re: Voting Re: Pledge of Allegence

2004-03-06 Thread Gautam Mukunda
--- "John D. Giorgis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My Maryland, My Maryland. :-) > > JDG Could I say, as a Marylander since about the second day of my life (I was born in Washington DC) how much I _hate_ that song? I mean really, really hate that song. The state needs to get rid of it pretty mu

Voting Re: Pledge of Allegence

2004-03-06 Thread John D. Giorgis
oing to try and at least make a quixotic show of trying to win it, though... but I'm not holding my breath that he might be another Bob Ehrlich (our first-term Republican Governor - a first tsince about the time of Julius Caesar for Maryland :-). Then again, I really had to hold my nose in votin

Voting Machines Comprised in Election Simulation

2004-02-12 Thread Julia Thompson
http://research.yale.edu/lawmeme/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1305 Short article with links. First paragraph: RABA Technologies, at the request of the state of Maryland, has issued a report about the state’s Diebold voting systems, ATM-style DRE terminals usi

Diebold Memos Disclose Florida 2000 E-Voting Fraud

2003-10-31 Thread The Fool
<<http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0310/S00211.htm>> Diebold Memos Disclose Florida 2000 E-Voting Fraud Friday, 24 October 2003, 11:18 am Article: Alastair Thompson The Diebold Memos' Smoking Gun Volusia County Memos Disclose Election 2000 Vote Fraud By Alasta

diebold voting machines and negative vote counts

2003-10-02 Thread The Fool
On January 17, 2001, Lana Hines, a county elections official sent out an inquiry as to how Al Gore ended up with a vote-count of -16,022. (NEGATIVE 16,022)—which just happens also to have been the total number of votes cast for various independent and third-party candidates who also ran. This is

Diebold Voting Machines "At High Risk of Compromise" - SAIC

2003-09-25 Thread The Fool
<http://www.freedom-to-tinker.com/archives/000449.html> Diebold Voting Machines "At High Risk of Compromise" As expected, an independent study of the Diebold electronic voting machines purchased by the state of Maryland has found that "The system, as implemented in p

Link: Gaffe casts doubts on electronic voting

2003-09-15 Thread Reggie Bautista
ed is casting new doubts about the trustworthiness of electronic voting machines. During San Luis Obispo County's March 2002 primary, absentee vote tallies were apparently sent to an Internet site operated by Diebold Election Systems Inc., the maker of the voting machines used in the election.

voting machine companies setting up lobbying / PR blitz

2003-09-07 Thread The Fool
http://www.onlinejournal.com/Special_Reports/082603Harris/082603harris.htm l They are promising a massive PR and media campaign, polling, market surveys, a full congressional lobbying effort, approaching and rolling academics and key organizations over to their side, setting up a panel of academic

more evidence of dibold voting machine fraud [L3]

2003-09-04 Thread The Fool
http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=03/09/04/159216 Thursday, September 4th, 2003 Will Bush Backers Manipulate Votes to Deliver GW Another Election? As millions of voters prepare to use electronic voting

diebold voting machine CEO wants to fix elections

2003-08-31 Thread The Fool
http://www.cleveland.com/printer/printer.ssf?/base/news/106207171078040.xm l Voting machine controversy 08/28/03 Julie Carr Smyth Plain Dealer Bureau Columbus - The head of a company vying to sell voting machines in Ohio told Republicans in a recent fund-raising letter that he is "comm

Re: E-Voting Expert Ousted From Elections Conference

2003-08-14 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 8/7/2003 4:11:59 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Rickenbach took Mercuri out of the room and told her that her credentials > were being revoked. Rickenbach said that Mercuri had not filled out the > forms correctly. Mercuri protested, but was refused

E-Voting Expert Ousted From Elections Conference

2003-08-14 Thread The Fool
http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0308/S00014.htm E-Voting Expert Ousted From Elections Conference Saturday, 2 August 2003, 4:36 pm Article: www.ecotalk.org - Lynn Landes Computer Voting Expert Ousted From Elections Conference Lynn Landes freelance journalist www.EcoTalk.org Denver CO

Diebold claims it's fraud enabled voting machines are 'secure' [L3]

2003-08-01 Thread The Fool
http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0307/S00224.htm Diebold's Press Release In Response To Johns Hopkins Report - Technical Response To The Johns Hopkins Study – 25 July ** 1. SYNOPSIS OF THE STORY SO FAR Diebold voting machines are used in 37 states. Four computer scien

Re: Computer Voting Is Open to Easy Fraud, Experts Say

2003-07-27 Thread Kevin Tarr
At 11:07 AM 7/27/2003 -0500, you wrote: > From: John D. Giorgis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > At 01:23 PM 7/24/2003 -0500 The Fool wrote: > >http://www.nytimes.com/2003/07/24/technology/24VOTE.html?ex=1059710400&en = > >d989a69c518293a6&ei=5062&partner=GOOGLE >

Re: Computer Voting Is Open to Easy Fraud, Experts Say

2003-07-27 Thread The Fool
> From: John D. Giorgis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > At 01:23 PM 7/24/2003 -0500 The Fool wrote: > >http://www.nytimes.com/2003/07/24/technology/24VOTE.html?ex=1059710400&en = > >d989a69c518293a6&ei=5062&partner=GOOGLE > > > >Computer Voting

Re: Computer Voting Is Open to Easy Fraud, Experts Say

2003-07-26 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 01:23 PM 7/24/2003 -0500 The Fool wrote: >http://www.nytimes.com/2003/07/24/technology/24VOTE.html?ex=1059710400&en= >d989a69c518293a6&ei=5062&partner=GOOGLE > >Computer Voting Is Open to Easy Fraud, Experts Say By JOHN SCHWARTZ Wouldn't a fail-safe answer be t

3 sets of accounting ledgers: Diebold voting machines

2003-07-26 Thread The Fool
Inside A U.S. Election Vote Counting Program By Bev Harris* * Bev Harris is the Author of the soon to be published book " Black Box Voting: Ballot Tampering In The 21st Century " http://www.blackboxvoting.com A Diebold touchscreen voting machine Makers of the walk right in, sit

more on GA diebold voting security

2003-07-25 Thread The Fool
supporters of democracy to make copies of these files and to make them available on websites and file sharing networks. http://users.actrix.co.nz/dolly/Download the Diebold files A Diebold touchscreen voting machine Makers of the walk right in, sit right down, replace ballot tallies with your own

GA backs computer voting despite massive security flaws

2003-07-25 Thread The Fool
http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/0703/25voting.html GA Backs Computer Voting Plan Despite Critical Study By DUANE D. STANFORD The Atlanta Journal-Constitution A state election official said Thursday he is "very confident" in the security of Georgia's new touch-scree

Re: Computer Voting Is Open to Easy Fraud, Experts Say

2003-07-24 Thread Alberto Monteiro
> > Computer Voting Is Open to Easy Fraud, Experts Say By JOHN SCHWARTZ > No, it isn't. See the recent brazilian elections. Unfortunately, it's not idiot-proof, and we keep electing jerks :-/ Alberto Monteiro ___ http

Re: Computer Voting Is Open to Easy Fraud, Experts Say

2003-07-24 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: "The Fool" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Brin-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Computer Voting Is Open to Easy Fraud, Experts Say Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 13:23:52 -0500 http://www.nytimes.com/2003/07/24/t

Computer Voting Is Open to Easy Fraud, Experts Say

2003-07-24 Thread The Fool
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/07/24/technology/24VOTE.html?ex=1059710400&en= d989a69c518293a6&ei=5062&partner=GOOGLE Computer Voting Is Open to Easy Fraud, Experts Say By JOHN SCHWARTZ The software that runs many high-tech voting machines contains serious flaws that would allow vo

Re: Got back from early voting a little while ago

2002-11-15 Thread Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten
Alberto Monteiro wrote: > Julia Thompson wrote: > > > >Each person in the US is governed at both the state and federal level. > > > Lucky Bastards :-) > > In Brazil, we are g*verned at federal, state and municipal > [the polis, or city] level. Which means that things that must > be done aren't, an

Re: G*overnment Divisions Re: Got back from early voting a little while ago

2002-11-09 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 06:07 PM 11/8/2002 -0500 Kevin Tarr wrote: >A borough has it's own specific governing body, a village doesn't. A >township and a borough do not exist in the same set, you are either in one >or the other. A borough can be completely surrounded by one township, but >it isn't a part of it. All

Re: G*overnment Divisions Re: Got back from early voting a little while ago

2002-11-08 Thread Kevin Tarr
At 01:55 PM 11/8/2002 -0500, you wrote: At 08:58 AM 11/2/2002 -0500 Kevin Tarr wrote: >>Maybe you can explain something to me that I've never understood. What >>is the difference between a Township and a Burough/Village/Town? Both >>in terms of the definition, as well as the practical matters that

Re: G*overnment Divisions Re: Got back from early voting a little while ago

2002-11-08 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 08:58 AM 11/2/2002 -0500 Kevin Tarr wrote: >>Maybe you can explain something to me that I've never understood. What >>is the difference between a Township and a Burough/Village/Town? Both >>in terms of the definition, as well as the practical matters that it >>entails to those who live there. A

Mechanical Voting Machines

2002-11-06 Thread John Garcia
I found this on the Federal Election Commission's Web site explaining how mechanical voting machines work. These are the type we use here in NYC, although I understand they will be phased out. The potential (which the historical record supports) for fraud and chicanery is limitless.

Re: Kids and voting

2002-11-06 Thread Julia Thompson
Kevin Tarr wrote: > > > Julia > > > >trying to remember which year the Sox lost the series around then, and > >not wanting to dig up the Shaughnessey book that would have that info > >right now, because Jeopardy! is on and she'd rather go watch that > > Every year since 1918? Oh wait do y

Re: Kids and voting

2002-11-06 Thread Kevin Tarr
fices, I'd guess. > Discounting the teenage years I'd assume. Would you worry about the kids > saying "Daddy voted for a loser! Why didn't your candidate win daddy?" Not > trying to be funny, seriously wondering. The last time I was taken to voting, I was 7, and wouldn'

Re: Kids and voting

2002-11-06 Thread Julia Thompson
teenage years I'd assume. Would you worry about the kids > saying "Daddy voted for a loser! Why didn't your candidate win daddy?" Not > trying to be funny, seriously wondering. The last time I was taken to voting, I was 7, and wouldn't have been taken *then* except I was

Kids and voting

2002-11-06 Thread Kevin Tarr
don't remember ever going with my parents, they voted when I was in school. One voting place was in our K-6 school at the end of the building. We had a tour of the machine every year. We always had mock elections. In '76 I picked the Yankee

Re: Got back from early voting a little while ago

2002-11-05 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Back when Tristar had the old logo, did you ever go > into the theater with an > umbrella and open it up as the Pegasus flew > overhead? > > "Change the logo! For God's sake change the logo! > Incoming!" Hey! I _loved_ that leaping horse! And as the Nightmare sai

Cattales (Was: early voting/uplifted dogs)

2002-11-04 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- Ronn Blankenship wrote: > Deborah Harrell wrote: > >who is extremely grateful that Kia (12 yr-old cat) > >only *vocally* expressed his displeasure with the > >necessity of 'hot-packing' his abcess, rather than > >resorting to armed resistance... > > Aargh. How did he pick that up? Only th

Re: Got back from early voting a little while ago

2002-11-04 Thread Matt Grimaldi
> > > If there were interstate dirt roads and > > > interstate monorails and interstate > > > skateboard ramps, then I could see > > > the need for the word highway to > > > diferentiate one interstate system > > > from another. > > > What about interstate commerce, interstate law > enforcement

Re: Voting

2002-11-04 Thread Alberto Monteiro
William T Goodall quoted: > > Yet voting theorists argue that plurality voting is one > of the worst of all possible choices. (...) > "Almost anything looks good compared to it." " > God bless Saddam! A few months ago, those guys wouldn't dare to say tha

Voting

2002-11-03 Thread William T Goodall
From http://www.sciencenews.org/20021102/bob8.asp "Election Selection Are we using the worst voting procedure? Erica Klarreich As Election Day approaches, voters must be feeling a sense of déjà vu. With recent reports of malfunctioning voter machines and uncounted votes during primari

Re: Got back from early voting a little while ago

2002-11-03 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 07:31 02-11-2002 -0500, John Giorgis wrote: Anyhow, I suppose that I should clarify this by noting that I am currently strongly considering voting for Green Party candidates in two or three races here. What, JDG voting Green Party? What caused this revolution? After all, it was the same

Re: Got back from early voting a little while ago

2002-11-03 Thread Erik Reuter
On Sun, Nov 03, 2002 at 11:46:21AM -0600, Ronn Blankenship wrote: > At 11:42 PM 11/2/02, William Taylor wrote: > > Just playing catch-up . . . That just doesn't cut the mustard -- "Erik Reuter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.erikreuter.net/ ___

Re: Got back from early voting a little while ago

2002-11-03 Thread Ronn Blankenship
At 11:42 PM 11/2/02, William Taylor wrote: In a message dated 11/2/2002 10:14:10 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Yes, I feel like saying "A pox on both their houses" . . . except that these days, someone would probably take it as a terroristic threat . . . >> Or tr

Re: Got back from early voting a little while ago

2002-11-03 Thread Julia Thompson
Ronn Blankenship wrote: > > At 07:41 PM 11/1/02, Julia Thompson wrote: > > > Julia > > > >who doesn't want to hear a damn thing more about Perry or Sanchez for a > >couple of days, but will probably fail to avoid their ads :P > > Can hardly be any worse than our gubernatorial race betwee

Re: Got back from early voting a little while ago

2002-11-02 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 11/2/2002 10:22:16 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << And then there are the districts which by federal court order have to be drawn so as to be "majority minority" districts so as to assure the election of a representative of a certain race . .

Re: Got back from early voting a little while ago

2002-11-02 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 11/2/2002 10:16:31 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << >How many people are voting in a tight Senate race this year? I'm not sure. I know that Massachusetts has been electing a tight Senator every six years for the

Re: Got back from early voting a little while ago

2002-11-02 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 11/2/2002 10:14:10 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Yes, I feel like saying "A pox on both their houses" . . . except that these days, someone would probably take it as a terroristic threat . . . >> Or try to sell you the new and improved lemon

Re: Got back from early voting a little while ago

2002-11-02 Thread Ronn Blankenship
At 06:29 PM 11/1/02, William Taylor wrote: In a message dated 11/1/2002 5:01:29 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Here in PA we lost two seats, we've been losing at least two seats every ten years since 1950 when we had 32. The main problem is the big cities are losing

Re: Got back from early voting a little while ago

2002-11-02 Thread Ronn Blankenship
At 02:06 PM 11/1/02, Deborah Harrell wrote: who is extremely grateful that Kia (12 yr-old cat) only *vocally* expressed his displeasure with the necessity of 'hot-packing' his abcess, rather than resorting to armed resistance ^..^ Aargh. How did he pick that up? For a cat who loved everybod

Re: Got back from early voting a little while ago

2002-11-02 Thread Ronn Blankenship
At 07:14 AM 11/2/02, Kevin Tarr wrote: Question: What da 'ell else interstate is there to drive on? If there were interstate dirt roads and interstate monorails and interstate skateboard ramps, then I could see the need for the word highway to diferentiate one interstate system from another. Bu

Re: Got back from early voting a little while ago

2002-11-02 Thread Ronn Blankenship
At 02:59 PM 11/2/02, Deborah Harrell wrote: --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > << > Debbi > who is extremely grateful that Kia (12 yr-old cat) > only *vocally* expressed his displeasure with the > necessity of 'hot-packing' his abcess, rather than > resorting to armed resistance ^..^ >

Re: Got back from early voting a little while ago

2002-11-02 Thread Ronn Blankenship
At 10:14 PM 11/1/02, Kevin Tarr wrote: I'd love to vote Lib, but they see WAY out there, haven't heard a coherent Lib yet. Saw a PSA from a Lib today and he said the countries problems were all tied to the banking system! A lot of my problems are tied to the banking system. Specifically, th

Re: Got back from early voting a little while ago

2002-11-02 Thread Ronn Blankenship
At 07:51 PM 11/1/02, Julia Thompson wrote: How many people are voting in a tight Senate race this year? I'm not sure. I know that Massachusetts has been electing a tight Senator every six years for the past 33+ years . . . --Ronn! :) Chappaquidick Maru I always knew that I woul

Re: Got back from early voting a little while ago

2002-11-02 Thread Ronn Blankenship
At 07:41 PM 11/1/02, Julia Thompson wrote: "John D. Giorgis" wrote: > > At 11:10 AM 11/1/2002 -0600 Julia Thompson wrote: > >I went and did early voting this morning. > > Out of curiosity, given the events of the last two years, did you at all > consider the ris

Re: Got back from early voting a little while ago

2002-11-02 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 11/2/2002 1:53:48 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << > >Question: What da 'ell else interstate is there to drive on? > > > >If there were interstate dirt roads and interstate monorails and interstate > >skateboard ramps, then I could see the need for

Re: Got back from early voting a little while ago

2002-11-02 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 11/2/2002 1:59:45 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << And what would the Kzinti have made of "The Book," as Bella Oxmyx referred to it (IIRC)? >> Something to sharpen their claws on? >From the picture in Contacting Aliens, if and when we ever do get

Re: Got back from early voting a little while ago

2002-11-02 Thread Julia Thompson
Matt Grimaldi wrote: > > William Taylor wrote: > > > > >Question: What da 'ell else interstate is there to drive on? > > > > > >If there were interstate dirt roads and interstate monorails and interstate > > >skateboard ramps, then I could see the need for the word highway to > > >diferentiate one

Re: Got back from early voting a little while ago

2002-11-02 Thread Julia Thompson
"John D. Giorgis" wrote: > > At 12:53 PM 11/2/2002 -0800 Matt Grimaldi wrote: > >William Taylor wrote: > >> > >> >Question: What da 'ell else interstate is there to drive on? > >> > > >> >If there were interstate dirt roads and interstate monorails and > interstate > >> >skateboard ramps, then I c

Re: Got back from early voting a little while ago

2002-11-02 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 12:53 PM 11/2/2002 -0800 Matt Grimaldi wrote: >William Taylor wrote: >> >> >Question: What da 'ell else interstate is there to drive on? >> > >> >If there were interstate dirt roads and interstate monorails and interstate >> >skateboard ramps, then I could see the need for the word highway to >

Re: Got back from early voting a little while ago

2002-11-02 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > << > Debbi > who is extremely grateful that Kia (12 yr-old cat) > only *vocally* expressed his displeasure with the > necessity of 'hot-packing' his abcess, rather than > resorting to armed resistance ^..^ > = ~ = >> > A hot pa

Re: Got back from early voting a little while ago

2002-11-02 Thread Matt Grimaldi
William Taylor wrote: > > >Question: What da 'ell else interstate is there to drive on? > > > >If there were interstate dirt roads and interstate monorails and interstate > >skateboard ramps, then I could see the need for the word highway to > >diferentiate one interstate system from another. > >

Re: Got back from early voting a little while ago

2002-11-02 Thread Julia Thompson
7;re not likely to get a lot of people elected, so I vote in the primary that is most likely to determine the outcome of the actual election for my county, and vote for candidates in that primary that most closely follow my personal philosophy. Julia > > Anyhow, I suppose that I s

Re: G*overnment Divisions Re: Got back from early voting a little while ago

2002-11-02 Thread Kevin Tarr
At 07:50 AM 11/2/2002 -0500, you wrote: On Sat, Nov 02, 2002 at 07:34:42AM -0500, John D. Giorgis wrote: > My parents live in: >Country: United States >State:Pennsylvania >County: Montgomery >Township: Upper Providence >Borough/Village: Collegeville >School District

Re: Got back from early voting a little while ago

2002-11-02 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 08:10 02-11-2002 -0500, Kevin Tarr wrote: Kevin T. I shouldn't be here. Then why are you? :-) Jeroen "Just curious" van Baardwijk __ Wonderful-World-of-Brin-L Website: http://www.Brin-L.com _

Re: Got back from early voting a little while ago

2002-11-02 Thread Kevin Tarr
Question: What da 'ell else interstate is there to drive on? If there were interstate dirt roads and interstate monorails and interstate skateboard ramps, then I could see the need for the word highway to diferentiate one interstate system from another. But dere ain't. Oh the stentorian saying

Re: Got back from early voting a little while ago

2002-11-02 Thread Kevin Tarr
> I'd love to vote Lib, but they see WAY out there, haven't heard a coherent > Lib yet. Saw a PSA from a Lib today and he said the countries problems were > all tied to the banking system! Most Libertarian arguments are best made in 3-minute segments and not itty-bitty soundbites, I think. (This

Re: G*overnment Divisions Re: Got back from early voting a littlewhile ago

2002-11-02 Thread Erik Reuter
On Sat, Nov 02, 2002 at 07:34:42AM -0500, John D. Giorgis wrote: > My parents live in: >Country: United States >State:Pennsylvania >County: Montgomery >Township: Upper Providence >Borough/Village: Collegeville >School District: Perkiomen Valley Maybe you can explain

Re: Got back from early voting a little while ago

2002-11-02 Thread Jim Sharkey
John D. Giorgis wrote: >>I think NY wins this one: thruways, parkways, freeways, turnpikes, >>interstates. > >Ahem. I grew up in NY State and I *never* heard the word >"turnpike." Its a *thruway.* Perhaps he was adding NJ into the mix, which *does* have a turnpike. And he left off "ex

G*overnment Divisions Re: Got back from early voting a little while ago

2002-11-02 Thread John D. Giorgis
My parents live in: Country: United States State:Pennsylvania County: Montgomery Township: Upper Providence Borough/Village: Collegeville School District: Perkiomen Valley JDG ___ John D. Giorgis -

Re: Got back from early voting a little while ago

2002-11-02 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 10:51 PM 11/1/2002 -0600 Julia Thompson wrote: >Most Libertarian arguments are best made in 3-minute segments and not >itty-bitty soundbites, I think. (This is off the top of my head and >thinking about various Lib arguments I've heard and read.) While true in my experience, these same Lib

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