[BD] Seedings Argument Settled

2005-04-01 Thread Tom Styles
BD, Seeding teams is well hard and I certainly would want to do it for the tour. ;-) But if you fancy having a pop at guessing which teams will finish in the top 8 in which order then hurry on down to the Lookfly tour predictor now. http://www.lookfly.com/UltimatePredictor/UltimatePredictor2005.

RE: [BD] Re: Seedings & a proposed change to the Tour Format

2005-04-01 Thread tom white
yo! I have to say, I found the times of games extremely unfair when playing the B tour last year. It really didn't help when getting to the A tour having to play games twice as long. I thought other people might have moaned about this, but I guess you should never leave moaning to someone el

RE: [BD] Re: Seedings & a proposed change to the Tour Format

2005-04-01 Thread Bolstridge, Thomas
Whilst people may not agree with Jon's views I really don't see I problem with him expressing them in an open forum. To be honest I find his mails quite interesting & nearly always raises good points which usually prompts further discussion and better awareness amongst other teams. I don't see ho

RE: [BD] Seedings & a proposed change to the Tour Format

2005-04-01 Thread John Paul Taylor
I think we're pretty much agreed on what we want here. The way I suggested it makes Tour 1 for the B-Tour open for anybody to win and means you have to put in a big performance at tour 1 to sort out the seedings. Then you only play teams around you. If you miss tour 1 and end up starti

[BD] Re: Seedings & a proposed change to the Tour Format

2005-04-01 Thread jaimie
Glad to see that the spirit of open mindedness is still alive and well in the UKU and it's coordinators. Open-mindedness! Ha ha, I just know when I'm wasting my time by reading any further. Yup I know the rules and they illustrate exactly why this is a just fine time (in fact the only time to be

[BD] Tour Seedings etc...

2005-04-01 Thread Mark Davin
JP Wrote, Regards: announcement of Seedings You don't consider the day that the seedings are announced and when the format is first released to be an appropriate time to have this discussion? If the TD had gotten this information out earlier we could have discussed it earlier. True, although beari

RE: [BD] Re: Seedings & a proposed change to the Tour Format

2005-04-01 Thread Jon Palmer
Jaimie > I haven't read the rest of your email below the point relating to what I > said, as I can't be bothered. However, Glad to see that the spirit of open mindedness is still alive and well in the UKU and it's coordinators. Yup I know the rules and they illustrate exactly why this is a just

RE: [BD] Seedings & a proposed change to the Tour Format

2005-04-01 Thread Jon Palmer
Jon, I totally agree that the B Tour at Tour 1 should remain a very open format. The only change I would like to see is if it is at the same venue as the A tour then I would like to see the 4 crossover games get played after quarters. Your suggestion of basically the old tour format would be very

RE: [BD] Tour 2 Entry recieved

2005-04-01 Thread Jon Palmer
Hannah & Wigsy, Can you or the UKUA confirm that, irrespective of any late fines imposed, the 14th April is the official entry date for Tour 2 and that any teams entering after that date forfeit their right to A tour places as per the UKUA tour rules: http://www.ukultimate.com/open/tour_rules.aspx

RE: [BD] Re: Seedings & a proposed change to the Tour Format

2005-04-01 Thread Smith, Paul - GW Manchester
Although his views are probably partly coloured by him thinking we're all toga wearing, singers down in the B-Tour, Jaimie is partly right. Seeding is very difficult, and the current system is probably as fair as you will get it. You can't use Winter League results, because it is a Close Season t

[BD] Re: Seedings & a proposed change to the Tour Format

2005-04-01 Thread jaimie
Jon, I haven't read the rest of your email below the point relating to what I said, as I can't be bothered. However, You said: If the TD had gotten this information out earlier we could have discussed it earlier. The way seeding is determined is in the Tour Rules, which have been published

RE: [BD] Seedings & a proposed change to the Tour Format

2005-04-01 Thread John Paul Taylor
Some very good points there Jon. I've played Tour for 3 years and never finished higher than 14 or lower than 22 (I think) so I've got a bit of experience in this bracket. When the tour was split I thought it was a great idea, playing last year aiming to win the B-Tour and promotion was

RE: [BD] Seedings & a proposed change to the Tour Format

2005-04-01 Thread Jon Palmer
Jamie Cross wrote: > Seriously though, the way seedings etc are worked out have been public for > ages, and this style of last minute critisism is ill-timed and reasonably > pointless. If you have issues with the rules, raise them well in advance > of Tour 1, so there is time for discussion, ch

[BD] URGENT Ride to Tour B PLEASE!!!!

2005-04-01 Thread Alex Rigge
Hi, if anyone going to Tour B in Bristol today from the north east has a space in their car please let me know. I'm in Bakewell in the Peaks but could meet you on the M1. My ride fell through and the train's dead expensive. Give me a call ASAP on 01629 813087 if you can help out. I'm more tha

[BD] Seedings

2005-04-01 Thread Adam Batchelor
All, Some more minor changes to seedings. The schedule is not going to be available until the tournament due to doubts over a few of the pitches, which means we do not know which schedule we will be using. Ad PS Please do not count on these as they may change by Sat morning. Open

[BD] Official Invitation to KKLUBB - Bali Beach Tournament

2005-04-01 Thread Fingers Six
hiya When I first came to this country a sat on a beach recalling great times at Beach Ultimate events (my old team, Rampant Rabbits, won the spirit at BBC and party prize at CUBE), and wondered why this country does not have one. Well, now the dreaming is over. This is your official invite to T

[BD] Re: Seedings & Tour predictor

2005-04-01 Thread jaimie
Is there some way I can withdraw my entry for the Tour predictor? Given that all these people 'know' what's going to happen, my guesses will just look silly! Seriously though, the way seedings etc are worked out have been public for ages, and this style of last minute critisism is ill-timed an

Re: [BD] Seedings

2005-04-01 Thread Steve G
Speaking for Flyght Club, we use Winter League to coax new students to the outdoors. It's rarely the tour team that plays. Often our winter league teams were either split evenly or based on our student teams and often featured random pickups like Dave Sealy or Alli Smith who are clearly not Flygh

Re: [BD] Seedings

2005-04-01 Thread Jolyon Thompson
Because not all teams play events outdoors during the winter and the winter events are not UKU events the winter is thought of (at least by me) as pre season and could therefore be likened to 'friendlies' in football or other sports which have no effect on which league a team plays in next seaso

RE: [BD] Seedings

2005-04-01 Thread Stu Greer
I agree that the seedings could take into account the overall tour result as well as the nationals, but not preseason results. This is because some teams (sheffield steal included) didn't put out full teams (or any teams- Leeds and Chevron) at winter league. Winter League should be a sep