Okay okay guys, you made your point very clear.
Offcourse i also enjoy the benefits of convention over configuration.
and i never intented to fight that. I just didn't realise that
people actually _need_ the id attribute. (because i never used ajax,
dom,...)
No problems Dieter. Just seemed so weird to us that use the natural id
and do AJAX daily with CakePHP. Seemed like a no brainer to us. You
really should try AJAX. CakePHP makes it SO easy to implement.
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Yes, you're right: the usual, dumb, wasteful approach to coding is that
you have to explicitly specify every little thing you want your program
to do.
If that's how you want to write your code, you should not, I repeat
*not* use CakePHP. ...
Nate,
The above message from you
The above message from you to the list is almost a flame. Well, it is a
flame.
I disagree.
On purely neutral grounds -- as I would tend to agree with your opinion
on this topic -- I've found that things work out better in a mailing
list if people refrain from writing flames and
I don't think Nate was flaming Dieter. So, it shouldn't be a problem.
Nate was flaming all those people that want to configure and
reconfigure over and over again. Those are the same people with
spaghetti code. And even the ones that don't have spaghetti code, that
have studied well and make
i've looked in the sourcecode of htmlhelper. apparently if you didn't
set an id yourself, the helper will always automatically set the id
setting id to null will trigger the behaviour above, setting id to ''
sets id to '' so we don't want that either :'(
this really isn't fun, because i have
Currently, the helpers do not support multiple form elements for a
single field. We're working on a solution for this in Cake 1.2.
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and what's wrong with just not outputting an id attribute unless
specified?
(like is the usual approach for attributes, you have to specify them if
you want them)
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It is auto outputting to aid in javascript and AJAX. Which is a little
hiccup in this stage until 1.2 is releasing with the multiple form
elements for a single field and auto id.
For now you could modify the HTML helper yourself to not do the auto
id. That is the best suggestion I can give.
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and what's wrong with just not outputting an id attribute unless
specified?
(like is the usual approach for attributes, you have to specify them if
you want them)
Yes, you're right: the usual, dumb, wasteful approach to coding is that
you have to explicitly specify
[EMAIL PROTECTED] If it is really causing some problem or bothers you, but you still want to use Html helper,why not write a simple wrapper helper that strip out id attribute when you don't specify?
class HtmlwrapperHelper extends Helper { var $helpers = Array(Html); function input($fieldName,
Sorry, I accidentally sent in the middle.But anyway, do some checking on attributes and preg_replace the output from the Html helper.Would that be a bad practice, or fine approach in Cake?Sohei
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On 9/18/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
and what's wrong with just not outputting an id attribute unlessspecified?(like is the usual approach for attributes, you have to specify them ifyou want them)Cake is not the usual approach. That is what makes it useful.
There is nothing
Chris that is so funny that people fight something that would make over
90% of their programming lives MUCH easier. And for the 10% that you
have to figure out how to make it do it the CakePHP way it would still
be hard programming it the conventional way of configuration. It is
just that by
Related to how the htmlHelper outputs tags, I just read a blurb about the tags.ini file at http://www.avatarfinancial.com
/pages/cake/Here is the relevant infoCustomizing HTML generated by the Helper
I needed to change the default option generated when I called $html-selectTag() to say
a simple piece of php code like this:
echo $html-textarea('Reply/content', array('cols' = 60, 'rows' =
2));
makes the html helper output something like:
textarea name=data[Reply][content] cols=60 rows=2
id=ReplyContent/textarea
and it's not only with textareas, also others (e.g. hidden fields)
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