Re: [ccp4bb] Linux vs MacOS for crystallographic software

2011-09-29 Thread Sebastiano Pasqualato
On Sep 29, 2011, at 2:48 AM, Nat Echols wrote: I don't know of any macromolecular crystallography programs that don't run on Mac - Hey there, does this mean that SHARP works on a Mac? ciao, s -- Sebastiano Pasqualato, PhD Crystallography Unit IFOM-IEO Campus Cogentech - Consortium for

Re: [ccp4bb] Linux vs MacOS for crystallographic software

2011-09-29 Thread Dirk Kostrewa
Yes, SHARP and BUSTER both work on a Mac. Cheers, Dirk. Am 29.09.11 09:45, schrieb Sebastiano Pasqualato: On Sep 29, 2011, at 2:48 AM, Nat Echols wrote: I don't know of any macromolecular crystallography programs that don't run on Mac - Hey there, does this mean that SHARP works on a Mac?

Re: [ccp4bb] Linux vs MacOS for crystallographic software

2011-09-29 Thread Sebastiano Pasqualato
Thanks Dirk, that's good news. I'll take a look at it, then. thanks, ciao, s On Sep 29, 2011, at 9:51 AM, Dirk Kostrewa wrote: Yes, SHARP and BUSTER both work on a Mac. Cheers, Dirk. Am 29.09.11 09:45, schrieb Sebastiano Pasqualato: On Sep 29, 2011, at 2:48 AM, Nat Echols wrote:

[ccp4bb] ion exchange: protein peak also in water!!

2011-09-29 Thread K Singh
Dear All, Apologies for bit off-topic. I am in process of purifying a protein by ion-exchange (cation) using 0.5-3M NaCl gradient. And I get a sharp peak which is western positive. Following elution, I wash the column 10 column volume with 3M NaCl. and now when I wash the column with water, I

Re: [ccp4bb] Linux vs MacOS for crystallographic software

2011-09-29 Thread Simon Kolstoe
I am routinely having the Mac vs Linux conversation with crystallographers and new students, especially given the price of Macs. Generally I think that the extra money spent on a Mac pays for less time spent messing around installing software, sorting out dependencies, swearing at the less

Re: [ccp4bb] Linux vs MacOS for crystallographic software

2011-09-29 Thread Clemens Vonrhein
Hi Sebastiano, On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 09:52:44AM +0200, Sebastiano Pasqualato wrote: does this mean that SHARP works on a Mac? yes (since 2004), same for BUSTER (since 2009) and autoPROC. Cheers Clemens -- *** * Clemens

Re: [ccp4bb] Linux vs MacOS for crystallographic software

2011-09-29 Thread Johan Turkenburg
This discussion will rage forever, it seems, but that won't stop us all chipping in. My experience is the opposite: all crystallographic software I use is available as binaries for the major linux distros, and installs without problems. Ubuntu is easy to maintain on desktops (your mileage on

Re: [ccp4bb] Linux vs MacOS for crystallographic software

2011-09-29 Thread Miguel Ortiz Lombardia
Le 29/09/2011 11:43, Johan Turkenburg a écrit : This discussion will rage forever, it seems, but that won't stop us all chipping in. My experience is the opposite: all crystallographic software I use is available as binaries for the major linux distros, and installs without problems. Ubuntu is

Re: [ccp4bb] ion exchange: protein peak also in water!!

2011-09-29 Thread Roger Rowlett
Since water is unbuffered, you are likely changing the pH of the solvent, desorbing additional protein. If you are working unbuffered, your IEX results will be unpredictable. Roger Rowlett On Sep 29, 2011 4:55 AM, K Singh ksc...@gmail.com wrote: Dear All, Apologies for bit off-topic. I am in

Re: [ccp4bb] Linux vs MacOS for crystallographic software

2011-09-29 Thread Lucas
2011/9/29 Simon Kolstoe s.kols...@ucl.ac.uk: Generally I think that the extra money spent on a Mac pays for less time spent messing around installing software, sorting out dependencies, swearing at the less than effective office software etc. that plagues Linux which is more of a computer

Re: [ccp4bb] Apparent twinning in P 1 21 1

2011-09-29 Thread Yuri Pompeu
After I ran DETWIN with the estimated 0.46 alpha, my completeness for the detwinned data is now down to 54%!!! Is this normal behavior? (I am guessing yes since the lower symmetry untwinned dat is P1 21 1)

Re: [ccp4bb] Apparent twinning in P 1 21 1

2011-09-29 Thread Garib N Murshudov
Why do you detwin? It would not be normal procedure if you have twinning. Molecular replacement programs usually do not have much problem with twinned data and refinement programs can deal with them more or less properly. when you detwin then errors are increased (As far as I remember

Re: [ccp4bb] Apparent twinning in P 1 21 1

2011-09-29 Thread Phil Jeffrey
Yuri, Detwinning relies on having both twin-related reflections present to calculate either/both of the the de-twinned data values. Therefore it magnifies incompleteness depending on where your missing data is with respect to the twin operator. I'd recommend against trying to do this with

Re: [ccp4bb] Apparent twinning in P 1 21 1

2011-09-29 Thread Yuri
I am refining in phenix twin law h,-k,-h-l. Without twinning I was around 0.36 Rfree and 0.25 with twinning. I am noticing however that my Rgap keeps increasing slowly... (little concerned now its at 8% - 0.18-0.26 - to 2.4A) Maps look decent for 2.4A I have a lot of clashes however some are

Re: [ccp4bb] Linux vs MacOS for crystallographic software

2011-09-29 Thread Dima Klenchin
Simon Kolstoe wrote: Meanwhile I think windows is slowly improving as a crystallography platform - and Microsoft is perhaps no longer hated in principle - however the one student in our lab who opted to go the windows route seems very limited in the software he can run. I have a feeling

Re: [ccp4bb] Apparent twinning in P 1 21 1

2011-09-29 Thread Yuri
I am now realizing that! I have been refining with twin law enabled, its been somewhat succesful. I have been using phenix and now getting ready to try refmac... regards On Thu, 29 Sep 2011 15:23:13 +0100, Garib N Murshudov wrote: Why do you detwin? It would not be normal procedure if

[ccp4bb] important information for scientists with samples travelling via Lyon or Grenoble airports

2011-09-29 Thread Vellieux Frederic
Could be of importance to those who have to use the Lyon or Grenoble airports (to ship in or out), check out the update from Sept. 27, 2011. http://www.ill.eu/users/user-guide/safety/important-instructions-for-biological-samples/ Fred. http://www.ill.eu/

[ccp4bb] Processing problem

2011-09-29 Thread kavya
Dear users, I was trying to process a C2221 data in two different versions of imosflm (7.0.4 and 7.0.7) using same set of frames, later on scaled using scala in ccp4 6.1.2. But for m surprise the statistics were quite different in two cases: In case of 7.0.4:

Re: [ccp4bb] Processing problem

2011-09-29 Thread harry powell
Hi We improved the code between the two versions - i.e. we made changes that should make processing more reliable. In particular, we changed the way the different parts of partial reflections are apportioned in the postrefinement, which was intended to make the refinement of the

Re: [ccp4bb] Linux vs MacOS for crystallographic software

2011-09-29 Thread Bosch, Juergen
There's one piece of software that does not run on a Mac. GRAPHent I tried some years ago to port it to a Mac without success, that's the only reason I have a dead PC (*technically it has Windows on it but I call it dead as long as no linux is installed) in my office waiting to get some flavor

Re: [ccp4bb] Linux vs MacOS for crystallographic software

2011-09-29 Thread George M. Sheldrick
I do all my program development on Linux and never liked Windows. However I recently attended two small-molecule crystallographic workshops where the large majority of the participants used exclusively Windows, and the ones who didn't use Windows used mostly Macs. I think the decisive advantage of

Re: [ccp4bb] Linux vs MacOS for crystallographic software

2011-09-29 Thread Thomas Cleveland
Hi, I have been extremely happy with the latest Ubuntu release, on both a Toshiba tablet (the touch screen worked right out of the box) and on a desktop with the proprietary NVIDIA driver. I haven't had to update, so I don't know what happens with the NVIDIA driver in that case, but I can tell

Re: [ccp4bb] Linux vs MacOS for crystallographic software

2011-09-29 Thread Ethan Merritt
On Thursday, September 29, 2011 12:55:43 pm George M. Sheldrick wrote: I do all my program development on Linux and never liked Windows. However I recently attended two small-molecule crystallographic workshops where the large majority of the participants used exclusively Windows, and the ones

[ccp4bb] Ligand Protein Connection

2011-09-29 Thread Sam Arnosti
Hi every one I have a problem with docking my ligand into the electron density map and make the connections ( bonds ) with the protein. It is a Lysine residue that makes a Schiff Base with a long chain aldehyde. I do not know how to make the bonds and control the torsion angles of the ligand.

Re: [ccp4bb] Apparent twinning in P 1 21 1 (refmac)

2011-09-29 Thread Yuri Pompeu
after 1 round of refmac rigid body and restrained refinement with twin law (estimated alpha 0.47) I am looking at 0.25 -0.29 Rwork Rfree and overall FOM 0.72. I also defined NCS restraints...

Re: [ccp4bb] Apparent twinning in P 1 21 1 (refmac)

2011-09-29 Thread Pavel Afonine
Yuri, note, the R-factors in case of twinning are not directly comparable. Pavel On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 7:25 PM, Yuri Pompeu yuri.pom...@ufl.edu wrote: after 1 round of refmac rigid body and restrained refinement with twin law (estimated alpha 0.47) I am looking at 0.25 -0.29 Rwork Rfree

Re: [ccp4bb] Ligand Protein Connection

2011-09-29 Thread Wei-Chun Kao
Hello Sam, if the ligand dictionary file is not available from the CCP4 monomer library (refmac would stop when it recognized an unknown ligand), you have to generate it from either the PRODRG server ( http://davapc1.bioch.dundee.ac.uk/prodrg/) or PHENIX eLBOW (

[ccp4bb] Ramachandran plot difference between Coot and Morprobity (or Phenix)

2011-09-29 Thread Xiaopeng Hu
Dear all, I just notified that there is a big difference between the Ramachandran plot analysis results produced by Coot and Morprobity (or Phenix). For the structure I am working now, Phenix(Morprobity) gives out Ramachandran outliers 0.2%, favored 95.2%, whileas Coot gives out Outliers