Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac error

2013-04-12 Thread Tim Gruene
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dear Peer, can you send the output of the command ls -l /share/prog64/ccp4-6.3.0/lib/data/monomers/list/mon_lib_list.cif Best, Tim On 04/12/2013 04:11 PM, Peer Mittl wrote: Dear Colleagues, For some reason Refmac refuses to read the file

Re: [ccp4bb] refmac

2012-10-31 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Please send an extract - you probably have a format error.. Or do you have 1500 chais?) Eleanor On 30 Oct 2012, at 22:43, jp d wrote: hi, i have a large pdb file and i keep getting this error with refmac ERROR: number of chains 1500 i suspect something needs to be done to my pdb any

[ccp4bb] refmac

2012-10-30 Thread jp d
hi, i have a large pdb file and i keep getting this error with refmac ERROR: number of chains   1500 i suspect something needs to be done to my pdb any suggestions ? thanks jpd

Re: [ccp4bb] refmac

2012-10-30 Thread jp d
hi, answering my own question, but maybe this will save some searching in the future, the error was related to 3 letter RNA codes refmac doesn't like that. jpd --- On Tue, 10/30/12, jp d yo...@yahoo.com wrote: From: jp d yo...@yahoo.com Subject: [ccp4bb] refmac To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Date

Re: [ccp4bb] refmac

2012-10-30 Thread Garib N Murshudov
searching in the future, the error was related to 3 letter RNA codes refmac doesn't like that. jpd --- On Tue, 10/30/12, jp d yo...@yahoo.com wrote: From: jp d yo...@yahoo.com Subject: [ccp4bb] refmac To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Date: Tuesday, October 30, 2012, 3:43 PM hi, i have a large

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac- solvent mask

2012-09-27 Thread Kiran Kulkarni
Thank you very much James ! -kiran From: James Holton jmhol...@lbl.gov To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 9:58 PM Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac- solvent mask Yes, it's called a partial structure.  You input the mask as structure

[ccp4bb] Refmac- solvent mask

2012-09-26 Thread Kiran Kulkarni
Dear CCP4 users, Is it possible to specify a solvent mask to the refmac ? Many thanks in advance for your time and help. Regards, -Kiran 

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac- solvent mask

2012-09-26 Thread James Holton
Yes, it's called a partial structure. You input the mask as structure factors and call them FPART in the refmac LABIN input. http://www.ysbl.york.ac.uk/refmac/docs/keywords/xray-principal.html#labin_fparti_phiparti Then enable refining the scale and B factor of the partial structure:

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac: ADP is non-positive

2012-07-25 Thread Ethan Merritt
: [ccp4bb] Refmac: ADP is non-positive To: wtempel wtem...@gmail.com Cc: CCP4BB@jiscmail.ac.uk On Tuesday, 24 July 2012, wtempel wrote: CCP4ers, a log file from Refmac_5.7.0027 presents me with this line: fromLog Problem with the ADP of the atom N A 3 ADP is non-positive

[ccp4bb] Refmac: ADP is non-positive

2012-07-24 Thread wtempel
CCP4ers, a log file from Refmac_5.7.0027 presents me with this line: fromLog Problem with the ADP of the atom N A 3 ADP is non-positive -1.7740907E+35 /fromLog I did not explicitely refine ADPs or TLS. Should I modify my model when I encounter such a message? If yes, does the

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac: ADP is non-positive

2012-07-24 Thread Ethan Merritt
On Tuesday, 24 July 2012, wtempel wrote: CCP4ers, a log file from Refmac_5.7.0027 presents me with this line: fromLog Problem with the ADP of the atom N A 3 ADP is non-positive -1.7740907E+35 /fromLog I did not explicitely refine ADPs or TLS. Should I modify my model

[ccp4bb] Refmac: ADP is non-positive

2012-07-24 Thread wtempel
, respectively. Could refmac just be taking exception to the missing N atom? -- Forwarded message -- From: Ethan Merritt merr...@u.washington.edu Date: Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 11:27 AM Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac: ADP is non-positive To: wtempel wtem...@gmail.com Cc: CCP4BB@jiscmail.ac.uk

[ccp4bb] refmac wouldn't process dT

2012-07-19 Thread Norman zhu
hello everyone Does anybody knows why refmac5 will not process any model that contains thymine in its structure? This problem only happens on my PC which supports a 2.1.0 version of ccp4i. The error in the log file says its due to bad value during floating point read. However, this

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac and sigma value

2012-04-27 Thread Robert Nicholls
Hi Uma, Altering sigma affects the strength of geometry restraints throughout the model - bonds, angles, etc. Choosing a very low sigma will cause geometry to be more tightly restrained towards ideal values, which is why you observe improvements in Coot validation. Note that strengthening the

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac and sigma value

2012-04-27 Thread Robbie Joosten
). Note that the absence of geometric outliers does not prove that your model is optimal. If you use too tight restraints you can end up hiding genuine fitting errors. Cheers, Robbie Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 10:04:11 +0200 From: herman.schreu...@sanofi.com Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac and sigma value

2012-04-27 Thread Eleanor Dodson
not prove that your model is optimal. If you use too tight restraints you can end up hiding genuine fitting errors. Cheers, Robbie -- Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 10:04:11 +0200 From: herman.schreu...@sanofi.com Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac and sigma value To: CCP4BB

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac and sigma value

2012-04-27 Thread Uma Ratu
up hiding genuine fitting errors. Cheers, Robbie -- Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 10:04:11 +0200 From: herman.schreu...@sanofi.com Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac and sigma value To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK It all will depend on the resolution. At low resolution

[ccp4bb] Refmac and sigma value

2012-04-26 Thread Uma Ratu
Dear All: I use Refmac5 to refine my structure model. When I set the sigma value to 0.3 (as recommended from tutorial), the resulted model has many red-bars by coot validation (geometry, rotamer, especially, Temp Facotr). I then lower the sigma value to 0.1, the resulted model is much improved

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac and sigma value

2012-04-26 Thread Uma Ratu
Hi, Alex: Which sigma do you mean? The one for automatic weight, not for Jelly-body refinement. I did not turn the Jelly-body refinement on. Thanks Ros On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 4:08 PM, aaleshin aales...@burnham.org wrote: Hi Uma, Which sigma do you mean? The one for Jelly-body

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac executables - win vs linux in RHEL VM

2012-04-10 Thread Marcin Wojdyr
On Sat, Apr 07, 2012 at 08:42:47AM -0700, Bernhard Rupp (Hofkristallrat a.D.) wrote: Something the developers might be interested in: The Refmac_5.6.0117 32-bit windows binaries run native on a win64 3-4x slower than those from the linux distribution run Thanks for benchmarking. If

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac executables - win vs linux in RHEL VM

2012-04-08 Thread Nicholas M Glykos
Hi Bernhard, Maybe the paranoia-checkers in windows slow everything down although I did not see any resources overwhelmed... I wonder whether the windoze refmac binaries can be used through wine in a GNU/Linux environment. If yes, then you could possibly differentiate between the

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac executables - win vs linux in RHEL VM

2012-04-08 Thread Nicholas M Glykos
Hi Nat, one of my colleagues found (on Linux) that the exp() function provided by g77 was 20-fold slower than the equivalent in the Intel math library. I do not know whether this has recently been changed, but the license for icc-produced executables used to be rather restrictive. If I

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac executables - win vs linux in RHEL VM

2012-04-08 Thread Ian Tickle
I do not know whether this has recently been changed, but the license for icc-produced executables used to be rather restrictive. If I remember correctly, you were not allowed to distribute the binaries, full stop. Nicholas, this restriction applies (and has always applied) only to Intel's

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac executables - win vs linux in RHEL VM

2012-04-08 Thread Harry Powell
Hi I suspect that this is more to do with the amount of memory required, size of arrays etc; refinement will (in general) be more demanding in terms of these than an integration program like Mosflm. The last time I compared the Mosflm performance (which was a few years ago), running the

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac executables - win vs linux in RHEL VM

2012-04-08 Thread Nikolaos Glykos
Hi Ian, Nicholas, this restriction applies (and has always applied) only to Intel's 'evaluation' licence That's right. With a cost of $9,997.00 for a 3-years/2-seats academic license, I couldn't have been talking for anything else ... :-))) All the best, Nicholas -- Nicholas

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac executables - win vs linux in RHEL VM

2012-04-08 Thread Ben Eisenbraun
On Sun, Apr 08, 2012 at 03:59:22PM +0300, Nikolaos Glykos wrote: Nicholas, this restriction applies (and has always applied) only to Intel's 'evaluation' licence That's right. With a cost of $9,997.00 for a 3-years/2-seats academic license, I couldn't have been talking for anything else ...

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac executables - win vs linux in RHEL VM

2012-04-08 Thread Ian Tickle
That's right. With a cost of $9,997.00 for a 3-years/2-seats academic license, I couldn't have been talking for anything else ... :-))) Hi Nicholas That sounds like way more than it should be, in fact it sounds like you've been quoted the cost of the commercial licence and then some! From

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac executables - win vs linux in RHEL VM

2012-04-08 Thread Nikolaos Glykos
Hi Ian, That sounds like way more than it should be, in fact it sounds like you've been quoted the cost of the commercial licence and then some! From Intel's website the academic licence for icc (Linux/2 seats) is $570 incl 1 year's support. Renewal of support for subsequent years will be less

[ccp4bb] Refmac executables - win vs linux in RHEL VM

2012-04-07 Thread Bernhard Rupp (Hofkristallrat a.D.)
Something the developers might be interested in: The Refmac_5.6.0117 32-bit windows binaries run native on a win64 3-4x slower than those from the linux distribution run **in a RHEL6.2-64 VMware virtual machine hosted the same windows7/64 system.** VM/RHEL: Refmac_5.6.0117: End of

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac executables - win vs linux in RHEL VM

2012-04-07 Thread Roger Rowlett
I don't know the state of current software, because I haven't tried recently, but when I set up my student crystallography workstations a few years back I noticed many packages (e.g. EPMR, Phaser) that had potentially long run times (where it is really noticeable) would run on the identical

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac executables - win vs linux in RHEL VM

2012-04-07 Thread Nat Echols
On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 9:50 AM, Roger Rowlett rrowl...@colgate.edu wrote: I don't know the state of current software, because I haven't tried recently, but when I set up my student crystallography workstations a few years back I noticed many packages (e.g. EPMR, Phaser) that had potentially

[ccp4bb] Refmac version

2012-03-19 Thread Kavyashree M
Dear users, I was using Refmac 5.5.0102 (ccp4- 6.1.2) for refining the structures, I was supposed to do one more roundof refinement with final model but unfortunately system crashed and i had to install the new version of ccp4 (6.2.0) which has refmac-5.6.0117. So my doubt here is - can I do the

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac version

2012-03-19 Thread Tim Gruene
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dear Kavya, I would trust the authors of such programs (ccp4-, phenix-, shelx-collection et al.) to only release new versions of their programs if they believe that version is an improvement over the previous version ;-) and generally use the latest

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac version

2012-03-19 Thread Garib N Murshudov
Dear Kavya In principle you should be able to use newer version for old pdb file unless you have pdb v2 namings for DNA/RNA etc. New version of ccp4 has more dicitionary elements (1 or so). Older version was compiled for 3000. That is the reason why old version does not work with new

Re: [ccp4bb] REFMAC Riding Hydrogens

2012-03-08 Thread Martyn Winn
robbie_joos...@hotmail.com To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Sent: Tuesday, March 6, 2012 4:26 AM Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] REFMAC Riding Hydrogens Hi Everyone, Pavel’s statement is likely a bit of an exaggeration, but he has a valid (yet hard to prove point). The default in CCP4i

Re: [ccp4bb] REFMAC Riding Hydrogens

2012-03-07 Thread Paul Smith
From: Robbie Joosten robbie_joos...@hotmail.com To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Sent: Tuesday, March 6, 2012 4:26 AM Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] REFMAC Riding Hydrogens Hi Everyone,   Pavel’s statement is likely a bit of an exaggeration, but he has a valid (yet hard

Re: [ccp4bb] REFMAC Riding Hydrogens

2012-03-07 Thread Tim Gruene
GUI? Thanks again, --Paul From: Robbie Joosten robbie_joos...@hotmail.com To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Sent: Tuesday, March 6, 2012 4:26 AM Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] REFMAC Riding Hydrogens Hi Everyone, Pavel’s statement is likely a bit

Re: [ccp4bb] REFMAC Riding Hydrogens

2012-03-07 Thread Garib N Murshudov
4:26 AM Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] REFMAC Riding Hydrogens Hi Everyone, Pavel’s statement is likely a bit of an exaggeration, but he has a valid (yet hard to prove point). The default in CCP4i was (and is?) to use hydrogens only if present in the input file. This is IMO not a safe default

Re: [ccp4bb] REFMAC Riding Hydrogens

2012-03-06 Thread Robbie Joosten
). Cheers, Robbie From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Pavel Afonine Sent: Monday, March 05, 2012 21:53 To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] REFMAC Riding Hydrogens Dear Tim, good catch, thanks; I could craft that phrase more carefully! Although

Re: [ccp4bb] REFMAC Riding Hydrogens

2012-03-06 Thread Ian Tickle
Pavel’s statement is likely a bit of an exaggeration, but he has a valid (yet hard to prove point). The default in CCP4i was (and is?) to use hydrogens only if present in the input file. This is IMO not a safe default. I agree: what I find confusing here is that the current CCP4i default is

[ccp4bb] REFMAC Riding Hydrogens

2012-03-05 Thread Paul Smith
Hello CCP4 community, I'm posting at large regarding a previously raised issue for REFMAC for which I cannot find the conclusion in the old threads. Specifically, does REFMAC add riding hydrogens during default refinement? Though I've not requested that any hydrogens be added, only used if in

Re: [ccp4bb] REFMAC Riding Hydrogens

2012-03-05 Thread Matthew Franklin
Hi Paul - Refmac does indeed add riding hydrogens by default; see here: http://www.ccp4.ac.uk/dist/html/refmac5/keywords/restraints.html#makecif The REMARK 3 is referring to what you think it is: riding hydrogens have been added. (They are not, however, written to the output file unless you

Re: [ccp4bb] REFMAC Riding Hydrogens

2012-03-05 Thread Garib N Murshudov
On the interface under Refinement Parameters there are three options 1) Use if present 2) Do not use 3) Generate all if you are using script then default is generate all (add them riding positions). You can switch to other options: make hydr all# generate all - default option make hydr yes

Re: [ccp4bb] REFMAC Riding Hydrogens

2012-03-05 Thread Pavel Afonine
Hi, On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 11:52 AM, Matthew Franklin mfrank...@nysbc.orgwrote: Adding the riding hydrogens generally gives you some improvement in R factors even with a good quality (i.e. stereochemically correct) model. and here are the results of more or less systematic test that prove

Re: [ccp4bb] REFMAC Riding Hydrogens

2012-03-05 Thread Tim Gruene
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dear Pavel, you may want to add to the structures mentioned in [1] one or two organic structures present in the Cambridge Database. Until recently it was customary to ignore hydrogen atoms throughout the process of crystallographic X-­‐ray structure

Re: [ccp4bb] REFMAC Riding Hydrogens

2012-03-05 Thread Pavel Afonine
Dear Tim, good catch, thanks; I could craft that phrase more carefully! Although often it may not be quite fair to take phrases out of context: this newsletter article was written in the context of macromolecular refinement. And yes, recently may be a broad term -:) All the best, Pavel On Mon,

[ccp4bb] REFMAC 5.7

2012-02-16 Thread Morten Groftehauge
Dear board, How do I define base-pairing restraints in DNA in REFMAC 5.7? Cheers, Morten -- Morten K Grøftehauge, PhD Pohl Group Durham University

Re: [ccp4bb] REFMAC 5.7

2012-02-16 Thread Tim Gruene
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dear Morten, the 'external' keyword as e.g. exploited by Rob Nicholls' prosmart http://www2.mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk/groups/murshudov/ Software-ProSmart could probably do that. The syntax reads like exte dist first chain I resi 9 ins . atom N second

[ccp4bb] Refmac problem with twin refinement

2012-02-12 Thread Jobichen Chacko
Dear All, When running refmac with twin refinement option it continues indefinitely at trying gamma equal step. With normal refinement this problem is not there. Any idea, how to rectify this? Jobi

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac and metal on a two-fold?

2012-01-02 Thread Herman . Schreuder
Message- From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Ed Pozharski Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 7:45 AM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac and metal on a two-fold? On Sun, 2012-01-01 at 12:14 -0600, Dima Klenchin wrote: With Garib's help, I have

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac and metal on a two-fold?

2012-01-02 Thread George M. Sheldrick
- From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Ed Pozharski Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 7:45 AM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac and metal on a two-fold? On Sun, 2012-01-01 at 12:14 -0600, Dima Klenchin wrote: With Garib's help, I have

Re: [ccp4bb] refmac low resolution REMARK

2012-01-02 Thread Ian Tickle
Hi Bernhard So what's new? See http://ccp4bb.blogspot.com/2011/11/pdb-header-info-wrong.html (17-Nov-11). Cheers -- Ian On 2 January 2012 06:58, Bernhard Rupp (Hofkristallrat a.D.) hofkristall...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Developers, it seems to me that at least Refmac 5.6.0117 does not

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac and metal on a two-fold?

2012-01-02 Thread Herman . Schreuder
with refmac. Best regards, Herman -Original Message- From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of George M. Sheldrick Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 1:22 PM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac and metal on a two-fold? I am surprised

Re: [ccp4bb] refmac low resolution REMARK

2012-01-02 Thread Bernhard Rupp (Hofkristallrat a.D.)
So what's new? Alzheimer's and late night senile dementia :-) BR PS: nice site! -Original Message- From: Ian Tickle [mailto:ianj...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 4:34 AM To: b...@hofkristallamt.org Cc: CCP4BB@jiscmail.ac.uk Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] refmac low resolution

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac and metal on a two-fold?

2012-01-01 Thread Ed Pozharski
I've seen this happening to water molecules as well (in a somewhat unpredictable fashion). In the latest refmac versions, you can try harmonic restraints, although these will only slow down the atom drift, as the target position is updated every cycle. Perhaps you can use distance restraints

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac and metal on a two-fold?

2012-01-01 Thread Dima Klenchin
I've seen this happening to water molecules as well (in a somewhat unpredictable fashion). In the latest refmac versions, you can try harmonic restraints, although these will only slow down the atom drift, as the target position is updated every cycle. Perhaps you can use distance restraints

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac and metal on a two-fold?

2012-01-01 Thread Cale Dakwar
Good to know, thanks. I was actually wondering about this recently. On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 1:14 PM, Dima Klenchin klenc...@facstaff.wisc.eduwrote: I've seen this happening to water molecules as well (in a somewhat unpredictable fashion). In the latest refmac versions, you can try harmonic

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac and metal on a two-fold?

2012-01-01 Thread Ed Pozharski
On Sun, 2012-01-01 at 12:14 -0600, Dima Klenchin wrote: With Garib's help, I have forced the atom into its position by using external distance restrains of zero length against the same symmetry-related atom. The cause is unclear because the same program handles special positions in another

[ccp4bb] refmac low resolution REMARK

2012-01-01 Thread Bernhard Rupp (Hofkristallrat a.D.)
Dear Developers, it seems to me that at least Refmac 5.6.0117 does not report the actual lowest resolution used in refinement, but instead the lowest resolution of the hkl index range generated by the default cif import script instead. REMARK 3 DATA USED IN REFINEMENT. REMARK 3 RESOLUTION

Re: [ccp4bb] refmac Bsol

2011-12-31 Thread Garib N Murshudov
instead of simple. Yep, understood. Thx, BR Regards and Happy New Year Garib From: Garib Murshudov [mailto:garib.murshu...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Garib N Murshudov Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 4:47 PM To: b...@hofkristallamt.org Cc: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb

Re: [ccp4bb] refmac Bsol

2011-12-30 Thread Bernhard Rupp (Hofkristallrat a.D.)
...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Garib N Murshudov Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 4:47 PM To: b...@hofkristallamt.org Cc: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] refmac Bsol Partial structure mask bulk solvent parameters. If you use simple scaling then mask solvent is still on. You can turn it off

[ccp4bb] refmac Bsol

2011-12-29 Thread Bernhard Rupp (Hofkristallrat a.D.)
Dear Refmac developers group, I am trying to understand a small detail in the refmac log listing. In the bulk solvent section just below the restraint table (I use monitor MANY in general): - Overall :

Re: [ccp4bb] refmac Bsol

2011-12-29 Thread Garib N Murshudov
Partial structure mask bulk solvent parameters. If you use simple scaling then mask solvent is still on. You can turn it off by Calculate the contribution of from the solvent region To turn Babient's bulk solvent you need to use Babinet's scaling instead of simple. I hope it helps regards

[ccp4bb] Refmac and metal on a two-fold?

2011-12-28 Thread Dima Klenchin
Hello, I have a metal ion sitting on a two-fold. I assigned it an occupancy of 0.5 but Refmac keeps refining it away from that position so that in the end there is a symmetry-related ion 1.6A away. I thought that this problem has been rectified long ago? Certainly I had several occasions

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac with TLS terminates early when occupancy changed

2011-12-21 Thread Debreczeni, Judit
[mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Krisztian Fodor Sent: 20 December 2011 13:57 To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: [ccp4bb] Refmac with TLS terminates early when occupancy changed Hello Guys, I am trying to refine a 3.2 A complex structure with Refmac using TLS. It seems that I need

[ccp4bb] Refmac with TLS terminates early when occupancy changed

2011-12-20 Thread Krisztian Fodor
Hello Guys, I am trying to refine a 3.2 A complex structure with Refmac using TLS. It seems that I need to decrease the occupancy for a 38 amino acid peptide in the structure. However, after changing the occupancy to 0.50, Refmac terminates after 4 rounds of TLS refinement. The only error

[ccp4bb] refmac model statistics in cif format

2011-12-02 Thread wtempel
Hello all. Did anyone encounter the following? Running refmac 5.6.0117/ccp4-6.2/ccp4i-2.1.0, I hoped to obtain, for pdb_extract, the appropriate output model statistics. When I did not find the cif file with a modification date similar to my output coordinates, I noticed a series of

[ccp4bb] Refmac 5.6 and Twin operator

2011-11-09 Thread Kiran Kulkarni
Hi All,  Is it possible to define twin operator and twin fraction in the latest version of Refmac (i.e., in version 5.6.0117) ? I tried to define these two keywords in Buccaneer but it fails with an error message Refmac_5.6.0117:  Problem in some of the instructions. Please help me to fix this.

[ccp4bb] REFMAC number of reflections

2011-11-01 Thread Ed Pozharski
I am absolutely sure this has been discussed before, and I have just re-convinced myself that refmac reports the number of reflections in just the working set, and not the total number of reflections. So my question is Is there a reason why the PDB ADIT tool imports the Nwork from the refmac pdb

Re: [ccp4bb] refmac 5.6 ccp4 6.2.0

2011-10-28 Thread Robbie Joosten
work, we may need a closer look at your input model. Cheers, Robbie Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 20:48:49 -0500 From: satys...@wisc.edu Subject: [ccp4bb] refmac 5.6 ccp4 6.2.0 To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Has anyone had problems with Refmac 5.6? I tried refining our stucture at 1.24 A, aniso

[ccp4bb] RE : [ccp4bb] refmac 5.6 ccp4 6.2.0

2011-10-28 Thread LEGRAND Pierre
d'envoi : vendredi 28 octobre 2011 09:42 À : CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Objet : Re: [ccp4bb] refmac 5.6 ccp4 6.2.0 Hi Kenneth, This looks like an off-by-one bug in the restraint generation. Typical sources are weird LINKs, wrong atom names and bad luck. I suggest you make sure you have the very latest

Re: [ccp4bb] RE : [ccp4bb] refmac 5.6 ccp4 6.2.0

2011-10-28 Thread Garib N Murshudov
Objet : Re: [ccp4bb] refmac 5.6 ccp4 6.2.0 Hi Kenneth, This looks like an off-by-one bug in the restraint generation. Typical sources are weird LINKs, wrong atom names and bad luck. I suggest you make sure you have the very latest Refmac and dictionary and try setting up a new refinement

Re: [ccp4bb] refmac 5.6 ccp4 6.2.0

2011-10-28 Thread Ed Pozharski
Just to verify, is this by any chance *unrestrained* refinement? On Fri, 2011-10-28 at 09:37 +0200, Tim Gruene wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dear Kenneth A. Satyshur, what is your weight set to? If it is set to 'auto', try setting it to a specific value and lower

[ccp4bb] RE : [ccp4bb] refmac 5.6 ccp4 6.2.0

2011-10-28 Thread LEGRAND Pierre
Pozharski [epozh...@umaryland.edu] Date d'envoi : vendredi 28 octobre 2011 16:00 À : CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Objet : Re: [ccp4bb] refmac 5.6 ccp4 6.2.0 Just to verify, is this by any chance *unrestrained* refinement? On Fri, 2011-10-28 at 09:37 +0200, Tim Gruene wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE

Re: [ccp4bb] refmac 5.6 ccp4 6.2.0

2011-10-28 Thread Tim Gruene
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dear all, If those hydrogens are in riding position, their coordinates are calculated and should not be refined at all, isn't it? Hence they should appear in the list of deviations at all. Are the hydrogens present in the PDB file? Does it work to

Re: [ccp4bb] RE : [ccp4bb] refmac 5.6 ccp4 6.2.0

2011-10-28 Thread Stefan Gerhardt
:00 À : CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Objet : Re: [ccp4bb] refmac 5.6 ccp4 6.2.0 Just to verify, is this by any chance *unrestrained* refinement? On Fri, 2011-10-28 at 09:37 +0200, Tim Gruene wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dear Kenneth A. Satyshur, what is your

[ccp4bb] Fwd: Re: [ccp4bb] refmac 5.6 ccp4 6.2.0

2011-10-28 Thread Tim Gruene
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sorry, should NOT appear in the list of deviations, of course! - Original Message Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] refmac 5.6 ccp4 6.2.0 Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 17:39:06 +0200 From: Tim Gruene t...@shelx.uni-ac.gwdg.de Reply-To: Tim Gruene t

Re: [ccp4bb] RE : [ccp4bb] refmac 5.6 ccp4 6.2.0

2011-10-28 Thread Garib N Murshudov
:00 À : CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Objet : Re: [ccp4bb] refmac 5.6 ccp4 6.2.0 Just to verify, is this by any chance *unrestrained* refinement? On Fri, 2011-10-28 at 09:37 +0200, Tim Gruene wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dear Kenneth A. Satyshur, what is your weight

[ccp4bb] RE : [ccp4bb] RE : [ccp4bb] refmac 5.6 ccp4 6.2.0

2011-10-28 Thread LEGRAND Pierre
part de Garib N Murshudov [ga...@mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk] Date d'envoi : vendredi 28 octobre 2011 17:49 À : LEGRAND Pierre Cc : CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Objet : Re: [ccp4bb] RE : [ccp4bb] refmac 5.6 ccp4 6.2.0 Dear Pierre Resolution seems to be good enough for full anisotropic refinement. Why don't you

[ccp4bb] refmac 5.6 ccp4 6.2.0

2011-10-27 Thread Kenneth A. Satyshur
Has anyone had problems with Refmac 5.6? I tried refining our stucture at 1.24 A, aniso with H in riding position and it just exploded! I get error in distances such as     Standard  External   All     Bonds:  3270 0  3270   

[ccp4bb] refmac and DNA bond angles

2011-09-14 Thread Gregory Bowman
I'm running into some geometry problems with my DNA model after refinement with refmac (version 5.5.0109), and would appreciate any feedback. The problem is that the angles for many of the glycosidic bonds are 2 to 4 degrees off of the ideal values, and so are several standard deviations

Re: [ccp4bb] refmac and DNA bond angles

2011-09-14 Thread Gregory Bowman
OK, I updated ccp4 to 6.2.0 (and refmac to 5.6.0117) and now the angles coming out close to the ideal values. Also, I see now the the MODRES in the pdb header from before was tell future refmac runs to rename those residues - which confused the newer refmac version as it thought the DT (renamed

Re: [ccp4bb] refmac and DNA (and now RNA)

2011-09-12 Thread Francis E Reyes
Is ' U ' now the standard vs ' U' ? I'm used to right justified letters for RNA residues in the residue field. This is with a recent refinement with refmac 5.6.0117 . And of course this switch in naming convention breaks compatibility with molprobity (which requires right justified letters

Re: [ccp4bb] refmac and DNA (and now RNA)

2011-09-12 Thread Phoebe Rice
Original message Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 12:23:17 -0600 From: CCP4 bulletin board CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK (on behalf of Francis E Reyes francis.re...@colorado.edu) Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] refmac and DNA (and now RNA) To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Is ' U ' now the standard vs ' U' ? I'm used

Re: [ccp4bb] refmac and DNA (and now RNA)

2011-09-12 Thread Francis E Reyes
Hi Garib Thanks for the quick reply! Refmac however is writing my pdb's as with the residue letter in the centered position. Is the newest pdb requiring centered residue letters for RNA? F On Sep 12, 2011, at 1:05 PM, Garib N Murshudov wrote: Refmac will read right or left justified

Re: [ccp4bb] refmac and DNA (and now RNA)

2011-09-12 Thread Garib N Murshudov
Yes, new version of the dictionary uses U. Refmac will read right or left justified residue names, however pdb may use only one of them. There are some backward compatibility code/dictionary elements. For example Ad/Ar are also accepted. However it is encouraged to use new pdb v2.3

Re: [ccp4bb] refmac and DNA (and now RNA)

2011-09-12 Thread Garib N Murshudov
Hi Francis Is that newer version of refmac? regards Garib On 12 Sep 2011, at 20:09, Francis E Reyes wrote: Hi Garib Thanks for the quick reply! Refmac however is writing my pdb's as with the residue letter in the centered position. Is the newest pdb requiring centered residue

Re: [ccp4bb] refmac and DNA

2011-09-11 Thread Miguel Ortiz Lombardia
Le 11/09/2011 00:23, Ed Pozharski a écrit : On Sat, 2011-09-10 at 08:21 +0200, Miguel Ortiz Lombardía wrote: A, C and G are RNA nucleotides. T is (mostly) not, its RNA-equivalent is uridine phosphate, U. Right, that was my suspicion. But I thought that RNA bases would be Xr, not Xd.

Re: [ccp4bb] refmac and DNA

2011-09-10 Thread Miguel Ortiz Lombardía
On 09/09/11 17:29, Ed Pozharski wrote: On Thu, 2011-09-08 at 16:58 +0200, Miguel Ortiz Lombardía wrote: Perhaps the Nd/DN issue was solved between revisions 3470 and 3628 ? Indeed. I just built the rev 3633 and it works fine. Autobuild scripts used to have some problems on Lucid, but this

Re: [ccp4bb] refmac and DNA

2011-09-10 Thread Ed Pozharski
On Sat, 2011-09-10 at 08:21 +0200, Miguel Ortiz Lombardía wrote: A, C and G are RNA nucleotides. T is (mostly) not, its RNA-equivalent is uridine phosphate, U. Right, that was my suspicion. But I thought that RNA bases would be Xr, not Xd. Plus, refmac does not complain about missing

Re: [ccp4bb] refmac and DNA

2011-09-09 Thread Ed Pozharski
On Thu, 2011-09-08 at 16:58 +0200, Miguel Ortiz Lombardía wrote: Perhaps the Nd/DN issue was solved between revisions 3470 and 3628 ? Indeed. I just built the rev 3633 and it works fine. Autobuild scripts used to have some problems on Lucid, but this time it worked perfectly. This evolved

[ccp4bb] refmac and DNA

2011-09-08 Thread Ed Pozharski
After switching (finally) to 6.2.0 and therefore to Refmac 5.6.0117 I have found a problem working with DNA that I have not seen with 6.1.13/5.5.0109. Namely, - if I use the pdb file produced by Coot (0.7.pre-1.3470) that seems to output DNA as Ad/Td/Gd/Cd no matter what the input names were,

Re: [ccp4bb] refmac and DNA

2011-09-08 Thread Miguel Ortiz Lombardía
On 08/09/11 15:35, Ed Pozharski wrote: After switching (finally) to 6.2.0 and therefore to Refmac 5.6.0117 I have found a problem working with DNA that I have not seen with 6.1.13/5.5.0109. Namely, - if I use the pdb file produced by Coot (0.7.pre-1.3470) that seems to output DNA as

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac for windows

2011-06-22 Thread Ian Tickle
Rex, I think the problem is that the latest version of the dictionary which contains LBT (and many other new ligands) only works with Refmac 5.6 (but check with Garib on that!), but that version hasn't yet been compiled for Windows. Unfortunately Windows versions tend to lag a bit behind Linux

[ccp4bb] Refmac for windows

2011-06-21 Thread REX PALMER
Dear protein crystallographers We tried downloading the latest version of Refmac for Windows, Refmac 5.5.0071 from the prerelease page on ccp4. However it does not seem to have alpha lactose in the monomer library. Does anyone know if it is possible to obtain the latest Refmac version complete

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac for windows

2011-06-21 Thread Tim Gruene
Dear Rex, you can always get the latest dictionary from Garib's homepage, http://www.ysbl.york.ac.uk/~garib/refmac/latest_refmac.html Since they are plain text files they are platform independent (unless Windows has issues with the directories separating slash, but my guess is that the windows

Re: [ccp4bb] refmac problem with anisotropic Us

2011-06-14 Thread Matthew Franklin
On 6/10/11 6:10 PM, Ed Pozharski wrote: On Fri, 2011-06-10 at 12:48 -0700, Ethan Merritt wrote: I don't think that combination makes any sense. Whatever anisotropic is being described by the TLS parameters can also be fully described by the individual anisotropic U^ij terms. So the TLS

[ccp4bb] refmac problem with anisotropic Us

2011-06-10 Thread Matthew Franklin
Hi all - I seem to be encountering a problem with Refmac refinement of a structure containing anisotropic B factors. I have been using TLS refinement and individual anisotropic B refinement, which may not be correct technique, but it does lower my R and Rfree versus aniso B refinement alone

Re: [ccp4bb] refmac problem with anisotropic Us

2011-06-10 Thread Ethan Merritt
On Friday, June 10, 2011 12:33:10 pm Matthew Franklin wrote: Hi all - I seem to be encountering a problem with Refmac refinement of a structure containing anisotropic B factors. I have been using TLS refinement and individual anisotropic B refinement, which may not be correct technique,

Re: [ccp4bb] refmac problem with anisotropic Us

2011-06-10 Thread Pavel Afonine
Hi, I seem to be encountering a problem with Refmac refinement of a structure containing anisotropic B factors. I have been using TLS refinement and individual anisotropic B refinement, which may not be correct technique, but it does lower my R and Rfree versus aniso B refinement alone

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