Re: [ccp4bb] refmac and DNA

2011-09-11 Thread Miguel Ortiz Lombardia
Le 11/09/2011 00:23, Ed Pozharski a écrit : > On Sat, 2011-09-10 at 08:21 +0200, Miguel Ortiz Lombardía wrote: >> A, C and G are RNA nucleotides. T is (mostly) not, its RNA-equivalent >> is >> uridine phosphate, U. >> >> > > Right, that was my suspicion. But I thought that RNA bases would be Xr,

[ccp4bb] refmac 5.6 ccp4 6.2.0

2011-10-27 Thread Kenneth A. Satyshur
Has anyone had problems with Refmac 5.6? I tried refining our stucture at 1.24 A, aniso with H in riding position and it just exploded! I get error in distances such as     Standard  External   All     Bonds:  3270 0  3270    Angles

[ccp4bb] REFMAC number of reflections

2011-11-01 Thread Ed Pozharski
I am absolutely sure this has been discussed before, and I have just re-convinced myself that refmac reports the number of reflections in just the working set, and not the total number of reflections. So my question is Is there a reason why the PDB ADIT tool imports the Nwork from the refmac pdb

[ccp4bb] refmac low resolution REMARK

2012-01-01 Thread Bernhard Rupp (Hofkristallrat a.D.)
Dear Developers, it seems to me that at least Refmac 5.6.0117 does not report the actual lowest resolution used in refinement, but instead the lowest resolution of the hkl index range generated by the default cif import script instead. REMARK 3 DATA USED IN REFINEMENT. REMARK 3 RESOLUTION

Re: [ccp4bb] REFMAC Riding Hydrogens

2012-03-05 Thread Matthew Franklin
Hi Paul - Refmac does indeed add riding hydrogens by default; see here: http://www.ccp4.ac.uk/dist/html/refmac5/keywords/restraints.html#makecif The REMARK 3 is referring to what you think it is: riding hydrogens have been added. (They are not, however, written to the output file unless you

Re: [ccp4bb] REFMAC Riding Hydrogens

2012-03-05 Thread Garib N Murshudov
On the interface under Refinement Parameters there are three options 1) Use if present 2) Do not use 3) Generate all if you are using script then default is generate all (add them riding positions). You can switch to other options: make hydr all# generate all - default option make hydr yes #

Re: [ccp4bb] REFMAC Riding Hydrogens

2012-03-05 Thread Pavel Afonine
Hi, On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 11:52 AM, Matthew Franklin wrote: > Adding the riding hydrogens generally gives you some improvement in R > factors even with a good quality (i.e. stereochemically correct) model. > and here are the results of more or less systematic test that prove this: see "On cont

Re: [ccp4bb] REFMAC Riding Hydrogens

2012-03-05 Thread Tim Gruene
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dear Pavel, you may want to add to the structures mentioned in [1] one or two organic structures present in the Cambridge Database. "Until recently it was customary to ignore hydrogen atoms throughout the process of crystallographic X-­‐ray structure

Re: [ccp4bb] REFMAC Riding Hydrogens

2012-03-05 Thread Pavel Afonine
Dear Tim, good catch, thanks; I could craft that phrase more carefully! Although often it may not be quite fair to take phrases out of context: this newsletter article was written in the context of macromolecular refinement. And yes, "recently" may be a broad term -:) All the best, Pavel On Mon,

Re: [ccp4bb] REFMAC Riding Hydrogens

2012-03-06 Thread Robbie Joosten
). Cheers, Robbie From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Pavel Afonine Sent: Monday, March 05, 2012 21:53 To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] REFMAC Riding Hydrogens Dear Tim, good catch, thanks; I could craft that phrase more carefully! Although

Re: [ccp4bb] REFMAC Riding Hydrogens

2012-03-06 Thread Ian Tickle
> Pavel’s statement is likely a bit of an exaggeration, but he has a valid > (yet hard to prove point). The default in CCP4i was (and is?) to use > hydrogens only if present in the input file. This is IMO not a safe default. I agree: what I find confusing here is that the current CCP4i default is

Re: [ccp4bb] REFMAC Riding Hydrogens

2012-03-07 Thread Paul Smith
i GUI? Thanks again, --Paul From: Robbie Joosten To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Sent: Tuesday, March 6, 2012 4:26 AM Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] REFMAC Riding Hydrogens Hi Everyone,   Pavel’s statement is likely a bit of an exaggeration, but he has a valid (yet hard

Re: [ccp4bb] REFMAC Riding Hydrogens

2012-03-07 Thread Tim Gruene
n > riding hydrogens a) became available, b) became default, or c) became default > in the CCP4i GUI? > > Thanks again, > > --Paul > > > > > From: Robbie Joosten > To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK > Sent: Tuesday, March 6, 2012

Re: [ccp4bb] REFMAC Riding Hydrogens

2012-03-07 Thread Garib N Murshudov
Thanks again, > > --Paul > > From: Robbie Joosten > To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK > Sent: Tuesday, March 6, 2012 4:26 AM > Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] REFMAC Riding Hydrogens > > Hi Everyone, > > Pavel’s statement is likely a bit of an exaggeration, but he has a vali

Re: [ccp4bb] REFMAC Riding Hydrogens

2012-03-08 Thread Martyn Winn
re present? > > > > > > Also, how about refmac version numbers? Is there a clear > > demarcation when riding hydrogens a) became available, b) became > > default, or c) became default in the CCP4i GUI? > > > > > > Thanks again, > > > > > >

[ccp4bb] Refmac bref MIXED failed

2010-09-06 Thread Lionel Costenaro
Hello, When I run Refmac with the mixed iso/anisotripic B-value option (refi bref MIXED), refmac failed with the error message below. My pdb comes from previous refmac runs with anisotropic B values for all atoms (H generated but not written). I just removed from the pdb the ANISOU lines for all w

Re: [ccp4bb] REFMAC 5.2.0019 question

2010-12-20 Thread Ed Pozharski
On Sun, 2010-12-19 at 18:58 -0500, Hailiang Zhang wrote: > (1). CTLS=a, CC=b > (2). CTLS=a, CC=0; followed by: CTLS=0, CC=b > In (2), you are doing two separate runs, with the second not using TLS. If you want to combine TLS and positional refinement, you must have them included in the same refma

Re: [ccp4bb] REFMAC 5.2.0019 question

2010-12-20 Thread Ian Tickle
I would try it with the latest version (5.6.x) in case there's a bug. That's a very old version you're still using! -- Ian On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 11:58 PM, Hailiang Zhang wrote: > Hi, > > I am using REFMAC 5.2.0019 to run the following script: > *** > refmac5 hklin a xyzin b < REFI

Re: [ccp4bb] REFMAC 5.2.0019 question

2010-12-20 Thread Ian Tickle
PS one other thought: in your run 2b you are not reading in (as TLSIN) the TLSOUT file produced by run 2a. So run 2b is not starting from the same point that it would have done as in run 1. I. On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 11:58 PM, Hailiang Zhang wrote: > Hi, > > I am using REFMAC 5.2.0019 to run th

Re: [ccp4bb] REFMAC 5.2.0019 question

2010-12-20 Thread Robbie Joosten
: ianj...@gmail.com > Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] REFMAC 5.2.0019 question > To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK > > PS one other thought: in your run 2b you are not reading in (as TLSIN) > the TLSOUT file produced by run 2a. So run 2b is not starting from > the same point that it would have done as i

Re: [ccp4bb] REFMAC 5.2.0019 question

2010-12-20 Thread Hailiang Zhang
Thanks Ian, but I was using the output from 2a for 2b running. Results are still different between 2 and 1. More curious is more second question, the region with identical ADPs still ended up with identical ADPs (although different from before running) after 1, and that's why I also tried 2. Haili

Re: [ccp4bb] REFMAC 5.2.0019 question

2010-12-20 Thread Ed Pozharski
On Mon, 2010-12-20 at 13:11 -0500, Hailiang Zhang wrote: > Thanks Ian, but I was using the output from 2a for 2b running. It's not enough to use the pdb output - you have to make the proper tls input file for refmac to incorporate the tls correction -- "I'd jump in myself, if I weren't so good a

Re: [ccp4bb] REFMAC 5.2.0019 question

2010-12-21 Thread Ian Tickle
I think it would be a lot easier to understand what's going on if you posted your actual scripts. Cheers -- Ian On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 6:11 PM, wrote: > Thanks Ian, but I was using the output from 2a for 2b running. Results are > still different between 2 and 1. More curious is more second qu

[ccp4bb] Refmac: sidechain bond breaks

2011-01-17 Thread Marcus Fislage
Dear all, I might excuse myself for the silly question but it is the first time I solve an x-ray structure. After modell building in coot and running of refmac with restrained refinement I have the problem that the pdb output file contains distances between e.g. ILE Cb and Cg that are so long tha

[ccp4bb] Refmac and sigma value

2012-04-26 Thread Uma Ratu
Dear All: I use Refmac5 to refine my structure model. When I set the sigma value to 0.3 (as recommended from tutorial), the resulted model has many red-bars by coot validation (geometry, rotamer, especially, Temp Facotr). I then lower the sigma value to 0.1, the resulted model is much improved b

[ccp4bb] refmac wouldn't process dT

2012-07-18 Thread Norman zhu
hello everyone Does anybody knows why refmac5 will not process any model that contains thymine in its structure? This problem only happens on my PC which supports a 2.1.0 version of ccp4i. The error in the log file says its due to bad value during floating point read. However, this proble

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac- solvent mask

2012-09-26 Thread James Holton
Yes, it's called a "partial structure". You input the mask as structure factors and call them "FPART" in the refmac LABIN input. http://www.ysbl.york.ac.uk/refmac/docs/keywords/xray-principal.html#labin_fparti_phiparti Then enable refining the scale and B factor of the partial structure: http://w

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac- solvent mask

2012-09-27 Thread Kiran Kulkarni
Thank you very much James ! -kiran From: James Holton To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 9:58 PM Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac- solvent mask Yes, it's called a "partial structure".  You input the mask as structure f

Re: [ccp4bb] refmac newligand noexit?

2008-10-26 Thread Garib Murshudov
The keyword is make newligand continue (I need to add noexit option. It makes sense) regards Garib On 26 Oct 2008, at 22:10, Pete Meyer wrote: Hi, I'm attempting to use refmac to re-calculate a map from a published structure. Most of the time, this works with no problems. Occasionally, refm

Re: [ccp4bb] refmac newligand noexit?

2008-10-26 Thread Pete Meyer
Thanks for the quick reply. I got the noexit option for the ccp4-6.0.2 html, so you might have already started adding it. I've had no luck with 5.2.0019 (ignores either keywords, stops with new ligand message) and 5.4.0077 (ignores noexit, fatal error for continue). I'll give it a try with the l

Re: [ccp4bb] refmac 5.5.0068 error

2008-12-10 Thread Victor Lamzin
Dear Michael, ARP/wARP should recognise this refmac version with no problem. Before typing './install.sh' just do 'refmac5 -i' to check that refmac is executed fine and CCP4 environment is setup. If the problem remains please get back to us with details on the ARP/wARP version number and com

[ccp4bb] refmac 5.5.063 vs. 5.5.066

2008-12-17 Thread Jan Abendroth
Hi all, puzzled by an increase of R-factors when switching to the new ccp4 and along with it from refmac 5.5.0063 to 5.5.066, I took a closer look. Same refinement, same input (in fact, started from the interface with re-run job) gives distinctly different statistics. It appears to be only

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac and MSE?

2008-12-20 Thread Martin Hallberg
Hi, Have you specified the right form factor for Se given the wavelength used in your experiment? anomalous formfactor [Name] [f'] [f''] You can also try the new option where you can do simultaneous SAD phasing and refinement. See: http://tinyurl.com/8on2cr You will have to upgrade from your pr

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac and MSE?

2008-12-22 Thread Eleanor Dodson
I also see such peaks. I have assumed it is because the default in REFMAC is to use the CuKa SE formfactor, which should be modified at shorter wave lengths. (Solution - copy $C:IBD/atomsf.lib and modify Se c to c(CuKa) - f' for your wavelength.. then assign ATOMSF myversion/atomsf.lib in the

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac and MSE?

2008-12-22 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Sorry - Garib points out form factors are there - labelled atom type scat cromer ... You shoulfd find SE if there is a SE atom in the pdb file Eleanor loop_ _atom_type_symbol _atom_type_scat_Cromer_Mann_a1 _atom_type_scat_Cromer_Mann_b1 _atom_type_scat_Cromer_Mann_a2 _atom_

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac library trouble -

2009-01-13 Thread junfeng liu
The right library should be HEO_mon_lib.cif Good luck! leo Jonathan Marvin Caruthers wrote: All: I'm trying to run Refmac with a heme not present in the default libraries. Unfortunately, I can't get the library sketcher to create a library description file and get the following error mes

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac library trouble -

2009-01-14 Thread junfeng liu
Hi Jon, I do not think the lib you got from ligand dep is enough to be used in the refmac. Unfortunately I can not find or make the library from PRODRG2 server because the FE can not be handled by that server right now. So maybe you should make the library yourself : either using sketcher

Re: [ccp4bb] refmac not rerunnable

2009-03-24 Thread Pavol Skubak
As far as I know the compatibility has been broken because of adding new features such as intensity based refinement or multiple anomalous scatterers to the GUI Pavol -- Sent from: Leiden ZH Netherlands. > This is VERY VERY VERY irritating! > > Why has it been allowed... > Is there any advant

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac dictionary problem

2009-04-17 Thread Simon Kolstoe
Thanks to Robbie Joosten who suggested updating to refmac 5.5.0090 which seems to be happy with alternate conformation again. I thought it was probably worth mentioning on the list that the ccp4 bundled refmac has this bug. Simon On 17 Apr 2009, at 14:07, Simon Kolstoe wrote: Dear ccp4

Re: [ccp4bb] refmac-extra-params

2017-08-24 Thread Paul Emsley
On 24/08/17 16:29, Dr A.A. Jalan wrote: I am trying to change the default refmac run parameters in coot. For this, I created a refmac-extra-params file in the directory from where coot is launched. (set! refmac-extra-params (list "MAKE HYDROGENS ALL" "REFI BREF ANIS")) You can set refmac-

Re: [ccp4bb] refmac-extra-params

2017-08-25 Thread Dr A.A. Jalan
Dear Prof Emsley That worked! Thanks Abhishek On 2017-08-24 17:42, Paul Emsley wrote: > On 24/08/17 16:29, Dr A.A. Jalan wrote: > >> I am trying to change the default refmac run parameters in coot. For this, I >> created a refmac-extra-params file in the directory from where coot is

[ccp4bb] refmac mixed anisotropic refinement

2017-10-02 Thread Abhishek Anan
Dear all, How does one exclude water from anisotropic refinement in refmac5.8 under ccp4-7.0 Here is the relevant section from the com file, refi - type REST - resi MLKF - meth CGMAT - bref MIXED anisou residues from 100 A to 200 A This does not work and the logfile has the foll

[ccp4bb] Refmac refinement: reduced disulfides

2018-08-30 Thread Joël Benjamin Heim
Dear all, I am refining structures containing disulfides using refmac. Many of the disulfides are partly broken due to radiation damage. I tried modeling alternative conformations (i.e. one cysteine pair in a disulfide and the other pair as free thiols), but after refinement the reduced form i

[ccp4bb] Refmac jelly body parameters

2018-10-24 Thread Guenter Fritz
Dear Refmac developers, I am trying to reproduce some successful refmac runs but cannot get the previous results despite playing around with the parameters. I did those runs in Feb 2014 (Refmac 5.8.0049) but unfortunately have overwritten the log files in a backup. I still have the pdbs, mtz

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac specific questions

2009-06-05 Thread junfeng liu
Hi Partha, It should be depended on the input model : MIXEd Some atoms with isotropic, some with anisotropic B-values. In this case input file (PDB) defines which atom should be refined isotropicly and which anisotropicly. The atoms with ANISOU card are refined anisotropicly. ta l

[ccp4bb] refmac twin operator problems

2009-06-30 Thread Jan Dohnalek
Dear all, I assume that the current versions (from 5.5.0072) take the input line twin operator parameters. However we are getting the Problem get_symm_from_text message whatever we do. What is the correct format here? We do for example twin operator h,-k,-l thanks Jan -- =

Re: [ccp4bb] refmac failed message

2009-07-30 Thread Stein, ND (Norman)
bject: [ccp4bb] refmac failed message Dear all, I am refining a structure in Refmac at 2.2 A in win OS. However, Refmac failed and send this message:forrtl: error (72): floating overflow Thank you in advance for your any helpful suggestions. Best, Elad Elad Binshtein Ph.D st

[ccp4bb] Refmac Problem - Permission Denied

2009-08-29 Thread David Jones
I would appreciate if any one has any ideas on this I have a strange NFS related problem, if anyone has any ideas... I am running refmac with the ccp4 directories mounted on an nfs share (v4) mounted under /usr/local I get the following error... #CCP4I TERMINATION STATUS 0 Last system er

[ccp4bb] REFMAC SIGFP/FOBS cutoff

2009-12-11 Thread Ed Pozharski
Does anyone know if REFMAC has any SIGFP cutoff? I looked into manual but perhaps missed it. What I mean is abnormal situation where some FOBS are 0 or even negative - is there any intrinsic cutoff or refinement will be done against all the reflections? Thanks, Ed. -- Edwin Pozharski, PhD, Ass

[ccp4bb] Refmac ligand refinement question

2010-02-25 Thread Katarina Moravcevic
Dear all, I am refining a structure of a protein in a complex with phosphorylated ligand (inositol ring). My problem is that after restrained refinement with Refmac, the ring is distorted in geometrically impossible ways. Could anybody advise me on how to deal with this problem? Ideally, I would

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac in i2

2019-05-03 Thread Jonathan Cooper
The numbers do make sense now: AaA, AbA, etc, correspond to different HETATM groups and (what was confusing me a lot) the No. atoms includes riding hydrogens.  On Thursday, 2 May 2019, 23:27:49 BST, Jonathan Cooper wrote: In the output statistics part of the GUI there is table of mean

[ccp4bb] Refmac automatically handles twinning?

2022-03-29 Thread Nicholas Keep
Just double checking that Refmac automatically handles twinning without the need for a keyword or a box click in i2.  I have a crystal in P32 21 that gives poor Rfactors and maps (Rfree mid 40s) from what should be an excellent model. I have reprocessed in P32, P1 and C2 but all give similar re

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac and hydrogens -developers

2020-05-21 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Yes - I am having problems with hydrogens in REFMAC recently - has something changed? My problem is this: Build a rough model for some residues into a lousy map. (R ~ 32% etc..) I know it is rough with clashes and bad geometry but trust refinement to improve things a bit.. However if the run includ

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac and hydrogens -developers

2020-05-28 Thread James Holton
The first thing you want to do when debugging hydrogens in refmac5 is to make sure it outputs whatever it was doing: MAKE HOUT Y This is not the default.  Normally, refmac will take a PDB file without any hydrogens in it, quietly add them before doing refinement, and then delete them before ou

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac Ideal Geometry Library

2020-07-25 Thread Robert Nicholls
Hi Dale, Yes Refmac uses the dictionaries found in lib/data/monomers Of course these targets may differ from those used by validation tools. If you identify anything that's clearly wrong then do let us know! Regards, Rob > On 25 Jul 2020, at 17:22, Dale Tronrud wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm seeki

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac use - water addition

2020-09-12 Thread Jon Cooper
Hello, I'm not totally up-to-the minute with this but I didn't know that refmac itself added waters so maybe it's another program in an i2 pipeline, or something. However, I know another excellent refinement program that does ;-) and an excellent graphics program that does, too ;-0 In the past,

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac use - water addition

2020-09-12 Thread Luca Mazzei
Dear Jon, thanks for your answer. Maybe I have been too quick in writing my last message. The point is that with the old CCP4 interface, I would have been able to run Coot-findwaters to automatically add and remove water molecules at certain DELFWT and FWT rmsd tresholds, respectively, through

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac use - water addition

2020-09-12 Thread Eleanor Dodson
You don’t say quite how you are doing this. There is an option in the i2 pipeline to add waters using coot when the r factor falls below some assigned value. This is done using COOT. One can debate whether it is a useful option or whether the user would be better o open COOT and supervise the water

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac use - water addition

2020-09-14 Thread Christian Roth
Hi Luca, as Eleanor mentioned, in the i2 interface there is in the option menu an add water button. That will automatically run the coot find waters script similar to the old interface. Paul did use some very sensible values to look for blobs, which might be waters. These ones are used (basically

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac not handling microheterogeneity?

2020-12-02 Thread Robbie Joosten
nal Message- > From: CCP4 bulletin board On Behalf Of Ian > Tickle > Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2020 15:02 > To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK > Subject: [ccp4bb] Refmac not handling microheterogeneity? > > > Dear All > > I just downloaded a PDB file (7A5V) from the EBI se

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac not handling microheterogeneity?

2020-12-02 Thread Eleanor Dodson
t; said, 1 in 6 missing PDB-REDO entries is caused by this problem, so a > solution would be very welcome. > > Cheers, > Robbie > > > -Original Message- > > From: CCP4 bulletin board On Behalf Of Ian > > Tickle > > Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2020 15

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac not handling microheterogeneity?

2020-12-02 Thread Ian Tickle
s no clean solution for this and I imagine this problem goes >> very deep into the internal representation of the model in REFMAC. That >> said, 1 in 6 missing PDB-REDO entries is caused by this problem, so a >> solution would be very welcome. >> >> Cheers, >> Robbi

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac not handling microheterogeneity?

2020-12-02 Thread Keitaro Yamashita
SCMAIL.AC.UK>> On Behalf Of Ian > Tickle > Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2020 15:02 > To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK <mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK> > Subject: [ccp4bb] Refmac not handling microheterogeneity? > > >

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac not handling microheterogeneity?

2020-12-02 Thread Ian Tickle
.50 59.05 N > > > > > > > > > > In case 1 OD1 A is immediately followed bu OD1B > > > > > > In second case - all As listed then all Bs > > > > > > Eleanor > > > > > > > > > >

[ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] REFMAC - TWIN OPTION

2014-09-17 Thread Herman . Schreuder
uftrag von Santarsiero, Bernard D. Gesendet: Mittwoch, 17. September 2014 14:20 An: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Betreff: [ccp4bb] REFMAC - TWIN OPTION Can someone point me to bulletpoint documentation on using the twin refinement in CCP4? Here's what I did. 1. I'm in space group P3, and

Re: [ccp4bb] refmac vs shelx refinement

2007-03-07 Thread George M. Sheldrick
SHELX does not need a parameter to control the relative weights of restraints and X-ray data, it is performed automatically. However you can change the restraint esds, either individually or globally using DEFS, though the default values are generally OK. There is bound to be some difference in

[ccp4bb] refmac refinement and multiple conformations

2007-03-15 Thread yang li
If a pdb file contains some residues that have multiple conformations, when using refmac to refine it, will the programm take consider of these conformations? It seems that refmac would do this but I am not very sure. I downloaded a structure with some conformations from the pdb, but after refm

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac and B factors

2007-05-09 Thread Eva Kirchner
Hi Simon, you can't stop it - I asked the same question (with some more questions) some weeks ago. You can find the original email and the tips I got for not-so-good resolution B-factor refinement here: http://www.mail-archive.com/ccp4bb@jiscmail.ac.uk/msg01224.html Good luck, Eva 2007/5/9, K

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac and B factors

2007-05-09 Thread Peter Adrian Meyer
Simon, REFI BREF OVERALL should do something close to what you're looking for (it will refine a single B-factor for the entire model, but there shouldn't be variation within the model). Not sure where (or if) this is in the gui, however. Pete > > Dear all, > > I have a structure at fairly low r

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac and B factors

2007-05-10 Thread Flip Hoedemaeker
Yes, it is available in the GUI... Flip -Original Message- From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Adrian Meyer Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 23:28 To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac and B factors Simon, REFI BREF OVERALL should do

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac and B factors

2007-05-10 Thread Kolstoe S.E.
MAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac and B factors Hi Simon, you can't stop it - I asked the same question (with some more questions) some weeks ago. You can find the original email and the tips I got for not-so-good resolution B-factor refinement here: http://www.mail-archive.com/ccp4bb

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac and B factors

2007-05-10 Thread Roger Rowlett
CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kolstoe S.E. Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 5:09 AM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac and B factors Thanks very much for the replies, and especially for the link t

[ccp4bb] refmac fails on iodine ions

2007-06-06 Thread alexander . pautsch
> Dear All, > > I am having trouble with refmac dictionaries when refining a > structure that contains an iodine ion. > the PDB entry should be correct and according to the convention > (water added for comparison): > - > ATOM 2838 O HOH W 102 6.018 39

Re: [ccp4bb] REFMAC restraints for carbohydrates

2007-06-13 Thread Kim Henrick
you can use http://www.glycosciences.de/modeling/sweet2/doc/index.php to get a pdb file of your sugar and after fitting in density and refinement use http://www.dkfz-heidelberg.de/spec/glycosciences.de/tools/pdbcare/ to check the stereochemistry this should identify if there is a refmac di

[ccp4bb] refmac and maps in ccp4i

2007-06-17 Thread Matthew Wilce
Dear CCP4ers, I have just installed the latest CCP4/CCP4i (6.0.2/1.4.4.2) under OSX 10.4.9. When I run refmac using the gui even though I have not checked the box "generate weighted difference maps..." the programs tries to create the maps. Is there an easy way to prevent this. Since I am using

Re: [ccp4bb] refmac and ramachandran troubles

2007-09-24 Thread Eleanor Dodson
You havent got an incorrect CISPEP definition lurking in the PDB file have you - COOT does NOT correct these so if you rebuild something which has been previously flagges as CISPEP ( and that can happen if a very ugly omega angle falls to 89.999 ) then it stays that way in the PDB output from C

[ccp4bb] Refmac and planar amide restraint

2007-10-11 Thread Jason Greenwald
Dear all, How does one tell Refmac that the bond between two non-amino-acid monomers should be planar (in the case that this bond is an amide)? My ligand has amino-acid and non-animo-acid constituents that are connected via amides. I have made library definitions for all of the non-standard

[ccp4bb] Refmac 5.4.0066 versus Refmac 5.4.0034

2007-12-31 Thread Mark A Saper
Hi, Well, I guess one shouldn't change versions of refmac in the middle of a structure refinement. What are the major differences between . 0034 and .0066 ? I noted that form factors for the Se atom have changed dramatically even though I'm using the same " anom formfactor SE -8.13 5.05

[ccp4bb] Refmac 5.4.0066 versus Refmac 5.4.0034

2008-01-01 Thread Mark A Saper
Thanks for those pointing out my cut and paste error. Below are the correct numbers. The first term of the formfactor is almost twice as high compared to the other version. I suspect it is because the newer version is using the wavelength in the calculation, and the old version didn't.

[ccp4bb] refmac problem with anisotropic Us

2011-06-10 Thread Matthew Franklin
Hi all - I seem to be encountering a problem with Refmac refinement of a structure containing anisotropic B factors. I have been using TLS refinement and individual anisotropic B refinement, which may not be correct technique, but it does lower my R and Rfree versus aniso B refinement alone

[ccp4bb] refmac and DNA bond angles

2011-09-14 Thread Gregory Bowman
I'm running into some geometry problems with my DNA model after refinement with refmac (version 5.5.0109), and would appreciate any feedback. The problem is that the angles for many of the glycosidic bonds are 2 to 4 degrees off of the ideal values, and so are several standard deviations outsid

Re: [ccp4bb] refmac 5.6 ccp4 6.2.0

2011-10-28 Thread Tim Gruene
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dear Kenneth A. Satyshur, what is your weight set to? If it is set to 'auto', try setting it to a specific value and lower that value until the explosion stops. If this happens at low matrix values (at 1.24A it should be way above 5 or 10 for a well

Re: [ccp4bb] refmac 5.6 ccp4 6.2.0

2011-10-28 Thread Robbie Joosten
x27;t work, we may need a closer look at your input model. Cheers, Robbie > Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 20:48:49 -0500 > From: satys...@wisc.edu > Subject: [ccp4bb] refmac 5.6 ccp4 6.2.0 > To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK > > Has anyone had problems with Refmac 5.6? I tried refining ou

Re: [ccp4bb] refmac 5.6 ccp4 6.2.0

2011-10-28 Thread Ed Pozharski
Just to verify, is this by any chance *unrestrained* refinement? On Fri, 2011-10-28 at 09:37 +0200, Tim Gruene wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Dear Kenneth A. Satyshur, > > what is your weight set to? If it is set to 'auto', try setting it to a > specific value and l

Re: [ccp4bb] refmac 5.6 ccp4 6.2.0

2011-10-28 Thread Tim Gruene
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dear all, If those hydrogens are in riding position, their coordinates are calculated and should not be refined at all, isn't it? Hence they should appear in the list of deviations at all. Are the hydrogens present in the PDB file? Does it work to de

[ccp4bb] Refmac 5.6 and Twin operator

2011-11-09 Thread Kiran Kulkarni
Hi All,  Is it possible to define twin operator and twin fraction in the latest version of Refmac (i.e., in version 5.6.0117) ? I tried to define these two keywords in Buccaneer but it fails with an error message "Refmac_5.6.0117:  Problem in some of the instructions". Please help me to fix this.

Re: [ccp4bb] refmac low resolution REMARK

2012-01-02 Thread Ian Tickle
Hi Bernhard So what's new? See http://ccp4bb.blogspot.com/2011/11/pdb-header-info-wrong.html (17-Nov-11). Cheers -- Ian On 2 January 2012 06:58, Bernhard Rupp (Hofkristallrat a.D.) wrote: > Dear Developers, > > it seems to me that at least Refmac 5.6.0117 does not report the actual > lowest

Re: [ccp4bb] refmac low resolution REMARK

2012-01-02 Thread Bernhard Rupp (Hofkristallrat a.D.)
> So what's new? Alzheimer's and late night senile dementia :-) BR PS: nice site! -Original Message- From: Ian Tickle [mailto:ianj...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 4:34 AM To: b...@hofkristallamt.org Cc: CCP4BB@jiscmail.ac.uk Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] refmac l

[ccp4bb] Refmac problem with twin refinement

2012-02-12 Thread Jobichen Chacko
Dear All, When running refmac with twin refinement option it continues indefinitely at "trying gamma equal" step. With normal refinement this problem is not there. Any idea, how to rectify this? Jobi

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac bref MIXED failed

2010-09-06 Thread Garib N Murshudov
Could you please try refmac 5.6. I think we have fixed this problem. It is available from: www.ysbl.york.ac.uk/refmac/latest_refmac.html You need to take experimental version (it is now fairly stable) Regards Garib On 6 Sep 2010, at 15:01, Lionel Costenaro wrote: > Hello, > > When I run Ref

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac bref MIXED failed

2010-09-06 Thread Boaz Shaanan
Monday, September 6, 2010 17:09 Subject: [ccp4bb] Refmac bref MIXED failed To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK > Hello, > > When I run Refmac with the mixed iso/anisotripic B-value option > (refi bref > MIXED), refmac failed with the error message below. > My pdb comes from previous refmac

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac bref MIXED failed

2010-09-06 Thread Lionel Costenaro
Hi Garib, I tried with refmac 5.6 and the same inputs; it worked fine. Thanks, Lionel 2010/9/6 Garib N Murshudov > Could you please try refmac 5.6. I think we have fixed this problem. It is > available from: > > www.ysbl.york.ac.uk/refmac/latest_refmac.html > > You need to take experimental ve

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac: sidechain bond breaks

2011-01-17 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Well - REFMAC and I think other refinement programs simply read in an atom with occupancy 0.00 and write it out again in exactly the same place.. All refinement contributions for atoms both Xray and geometrical are weighted by the atom occupancy so such an atom will not shift. The assumption i

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac: sidechain bond breaks

2011-01-17 Thread Garib N Murshudov
Dear Marcus The most likely reason is that geometry is a bit loose. You need to tighten it a bit. You can do by decreasing weight using weight matrix option on the interface. You need also check the electron density to make sure that ILE is in electron density. Please let me know if you hav

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac: sidechain bond breaks

2011-01-17 Thread Ed Pozharski
Marcus, it appears that coot "breaks" bonds when the distance between atoms exceeds 1.64A pretty much irrespective of the bond type. Two exceptions are, of course, sulfurs in MET/CYS. CB-SG bond in cysteine does not seem to have any cutoff (when you do rotate/translate zone in coot, you can move

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac and sigma value

2012-04-26 Thread Uma Ratu
Hi, Alex: > Which sigma do you mean? The one for automatic weight, not for Jelly-body refinement. I did not turn the "Jelly-body refinement" on. Thanks Ros On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 4:08 PM, aaleshin wrote: > Hi Uma, > Which sigma do you mean? The one for Jelly-body refinement? > J-B sigma=0.

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac and sigma value

2012-04-27 Thread Robert Nicholls
Hi Uma, Altering sigma affects the strength of geometry restraints throughout the model - bonds, angles, etc. Choosing a very low sigma will cause geometry to be more tightly restrained towards "ideal" values, which is why you observe improvements in Coot validation. Note that strengthening th

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac and sigma value

2012-04-27 Thread Herman . Schreuder
metric restraints too much. Best regards, Herman From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Robert Nicholls Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 9:25 AM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Refm

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac and sigma value

2012-04-27 Thread Robbie Joosten
-factor model). Note that the absence of geometric outliers does not prove that your model is optimal. If you use too tight restraints you can end up hiding genuine fitting errors. Cheers, Robbie Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 10:04:11 +0200 From: herman.schreu...@sanofi.com Subject: Re: [ccp4b

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac and sigma value

2012-04-27 Thread Eleanor Dodson
). > Note that the absence of geometric outliers does not prove that your model > is optimal. If you use too tight restraints you can end up hiding genuine > fitting errors. > > Cheers, > Robbie > > -- > Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 10:04:11 +0200

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