Re: [ccp4bb] refining structures with engineered disulfide bonds

2010-10-21 Thread Eleanor Dodson
I think REFMAC will generate anappropriate SSBOND entry in the pdb for you if you run it from the GUI with Review restraintsoption Eleanor On 10/20/2010 08:40 PM, Seema Mittal wrote: Hi All, I have engineered intra-molecular disulfide bond in my protein monomer. The protein functions as a

Re: [ccp4bb] FOM: Phaser vs SigmaA

2010-10-21 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Being lazy I would just do refinement with REFMAC and let it generate the SigmaA values.. then try rebuilding with either buccaneer or Arp/Warp.They willboth generate weighting terms based on the Rfactors. Eleanor On 10/21/2010 12:58 AM, Goragot Wisedchaisri wrote: Hi, I have helices that

Re: [ccp4bb] Regarding space group P1, P21

2010-10-25 Thread Eleanor Dodson
as others have said, there are many cases where the actual symmetry is lower than the apparent, because a small part of thesructure does not obey the higher symmetry. This seems to have happened to you - an inhibitor which has P21 symmetry in a structure with near P212121 symmetry.. In similar

Re: [ccp4bb] diverging Rcryst and Rfree

2010-10-26 Thread Eleanor Dodson
I would expect such a difference with lowish resolution data. Your model will be biased towards the restraints - ie the geometry willbe good, but there is bearly enough observations to fit the actualmodel properly. eg - it will be hard to position solvent, and to recognise any deviaions from

Re: [ccp4bb] rigorously compatible coordinate files

2010-10-26 Thread Eleanor Dodson
On 08/20/2010 05:50 PM, Charles W. Carter, Jr wrote: Is there a program that will read in a pdb coordinate file and re-order the side chain atoms in each residue according to a standard order? I've a program that compares two files for the same structure, but requires that the order of the

Re: [ccp4bb] Rules of thumb (was diverging Rcryst and Rfree)

2010-10-28 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Oh cynic! Eleanor On 10/27/2010 09:01 PM, Simon Kolstoe wrote: Surely the best model is the one that the referees for your paper are happy with? I have found referees to impose seemingly random and arbitrary standards that sometime require a lot of effort to comply with but result in little

Re: [ccp4bb] Free R with doubled cell edge

2010-11-01 Thread Eleanor Dodson
This iseasy to do Reindex 2h,k,l then the cell will double; the FreeR will stay with the reflection, and you can use those FreeRs to append to your new data in the scala/truncate GUI. All the unset ones (2h+1,k,l) willbe given new FreeRs and the old ones transferred. Eleanor in On

Re: [ccp4bb] Bug in c_truncate?

2010-11-01 Thread Eleanor Dodson
The way I do this is to use mtz2various which reads the SHELX output and (I hope) copes with its various idiosymcrasies, producing an mtz file with H k l I SigI FreeR This can then be fed to the ctruncate GUI You need - to request Ensure unique data... Copy FreeR from another mtz file Then

Re: [ccp4bb] Bug in c_truncate? apologies..

2010-11-01 Thread Eleanor Dodson
I suggested mtz2various for taking SHELX input which is nonsense - it actually goes the way.. Eleanor On 10/29/2010 01:05 PM, Phil Evans wrote: The normal use of [c]truncate is to take intensities from Scala, so it wouldn't expect FreeR flags in the file. I suppose this should be added for

Re: [ccp4bb] Bug in c_truncate? - phase mods

2010-11-02 Thread Eleanor Dodson
CAD and Kevins phasematch correctly change phases etc when you change symmetry operator. I cant think that this is the job for pointless.. it is responsible for intensities, and surely only needs to use a merged file to decide on the appropriate choice of axes - eg getting your new PG3 data

Re: [ccp4bb] Software to Produce Linear Map of Surface Accessible Residues

2010-11-03 Thread Eleanor Dodson
On 11/02/2010 02:36 PM, Buz Barstow wrote: Dear All, I'm looking for a software program to produce, given a 3D atomic structure of a molecule, a linear map showing the surface accessibility of residues in a protein structure. Would any one know of a program that can produce this sort of map.

Re: [ccp4bb] limit for number of files for CAD...

2010-11-04 Thread Eleanor Dodson
I think it is far safer to run CAD with 9 files, then again with the output file as the first input, plus 8 more etc etc etc.. This isnt something you want to do very often Eleanor On 11/03/2010 06:01 PM, Ian Tickle wrote: I have a version wten is it? hich I modified a while back to handle

Re: [ccp4bb] Enforcing ncs on water molecules

2010-11-16 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Well - I usually use the COOT ncs map generation first. You place waters into good peaks in the 3 fold averaged map -say it is A B C - check that there are reasonable peaks in the other rotated maps - then once the waters are generated for A, fit those coordinates A to B and save them, then A

Re: [ccp4bb] origin_shift in polar space group

2010-11-18 Thread Eleanor Dodson
If you want to shift the coordinates, just use a superposition program. If you want to know the exact shift to best match phases you need to CAD together phases calculated from each model, then use PhaseComparison (reflection utility) That will tell you the shft, and whether there is an

Re: [ccp4bb] origin_shift in polar space group

2010-11-19 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Have you tried csymmatch -pdbin-ref one.pdb -pdbin two.pdb That will move chains to match asfar as possible, using sym ops and allowedorigin shifts to generate the best fit. Eleanor On 11/18/2010 12:26 PM, Ian Tickle wrote: OK now I understand. I couldn't find the script 'origin.com' you

Re: [ccp4bb] origin_shift in polar space group

2010-11-22 Thread Eleanor Dodson
It is a program Kevin Cowtan wrote - here is the info you get when you try to run it.. E [c...@roo mariaH]$ csymmatch BFONT COLOR='#FF'!--SUMMARY_BEGIN-- html !-- CCP4 HTML LOGFILE -- hr pre ###

Re: [ccp4bb] per-residue RMSD calculation for homologous structure

2010-11-22 Thread Eleanor Dodson
SSM - see superpose task under Coordinate utilities. This matches secondary structure and gives RMSD for CAs - inceredibly useful program.. Eleanor On 11/19/2010 10:55 PM, Srivastava, Dhiraj (MU-Student) wrote: Hi All does anyone know any software that can calculate and print out

Re: [ccp4bb] partial hydrogen refinement.

2010-11-23 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Can you see the hydrogens in the maps when they are excluded from the phasing? There is little hope of refining them independently if you cant see discrete peaks for them. Eleanor On 11/23/2010 05:18 AM, Kenneth Satyshur wrote: Sirs: We are attempting to refine hydrogens on a ligand (which

Re: [ccp4bb] partial hydrogen refinement.

2010-11-23 Thread Eleanor Dodson
I have rarely worked with such data, but when we did, we always kept to the riding hydroge positions in for refinement. You can check the important ones by calculating sfs without them and seeing how well they fit the map. For important residues like ASPS in catalytic triads that can be very

Re: [ccp4bb] Can LSQKAB calculate RMSTAB for two pre-superposed structures?

2010-11-24 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Yes - I think there is a button on the GUI to click? Eleanor On 11/24/2010 01:58 AM, Huiying Li wrote: Another question on RMSD: I have two structures of the same protein superposed with the LSQ Superpose in Coot by matching the first ~100 residues of the N-terminal domain. Now I'd like to

Re: [ccp4bb] Can LSQKAB calculate RMSTAB for two pre-superposed structures?

2010-11-25 Thread Eleanor Dodson
, Huiying Huiying Li, Ph. D Department of Molecular Biology and Biochemistry Natural Sciences I, Rm 2443 University of California at Irvine Irvine, CA 92697, USA Tel: 949-824-4322(or -1953); Fax: 949-824-3280 email: h...@uci.edu On Wed, 24 Nov 2010, Eleanor Dodson wrote: Yes - I think

Re: [ccp4bb] diffcult MR case

2010-11-29 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Are you sure that the mtz file you are refining against has spacegroup C2221 in the header? Phaser can test C222 and C2221 but when you start refinement you need to be sure the data header is correct. Another possible bug - is the model elongated in any way - they sometimes need surface

Re: [ccp4bb] Structure based and motif based sequence alignment

2010-12-01 Thread Eleanor Dodson
We did something like this with esprit. You get the sequence alignments from Psiblast or whatever you fancy, then edit in the structural alignment into the txt file it generates. Messy but successful.. Eleanor On 12/01/2010 03:44 PM, Gerard DVD Kleywegt wrote: This was one of the things that

Re: [ccp4bb] ncs operator confusion...

2010-12-02 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Easiest to follow the documentation.. http://www.ccp4.ac.uk/dist/html/dm_ncs_averaging.html You get the matrices most easily by mapping A to B A to C etc using lsqkab if you want to average over the A molecule.. Eleanor On 12/01/2010 05:41 PM, Francis E Reyes wrote: Hi all I'm trying to

Re: [ccp4bb] brute force MR

2010-12-08 Thread Eleanor Dodson
On 12/07/2010 09:38 PM, Arnon Lavie wrote: Hi there: The situation: We are facing difficult molecular replacement: we believe we have two molecules in the ASU, but phaser/molrep find only one. Using the electron density calculated using this single molecule, we have manually placed the 2nd

Re: [ccp4bb] Need no clash evaluation among symmetry mates during refinement

2010-12-08 Thread Eleanor Dodson
As far as I know there are no repulsions restraints applied if the sum of the atoms occupancies is =1.0. If one atom is fully occupied. and another partial then there will be a restraint. Eleanor On 12/08/2010 04:45 PM, Keitaro Yamashita wrote: Dear Ed, These tables were reported by

Re: [ccp4bb] Fwd: [ccp4bb] Wyckoff positions and protein atoms

2010-12-11 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Of course metal ions, So4 etc often lie on special positions - the insulin hexamer is generated around Zn atoms on the 3-fold axis. Eleanor On 12/09/2010 01:29 PM, Ian Tickle wrote: Of course it's always possible for an asymmetric molecule (or part of a molecule, such as a side-chain) to lie

Re: [ccp4bb] Space group vs. gap between Rwork and Rfree?

2010-12-11 Thread Eleanor Dodson
That gap isnt surprising given your resolution - indeed anything smaller could be suspicious! eg symmetry equivalent reflections labeled differently.. Eleanor On 12/10/2010 11:17 AM, Petr Kolenko wrote: Dear colleagues, I appreciate any help, or any suggestion with my difficult data. Many

Re: [ccp4bb] rmsd calculation for all atoms.

2011-01-01 Thread Eleanor Dodson
compar does this providing the sequence is the same. amd you can get lsqkab to give you the full list but only i think for those atoms you overlap.. eleanor On 12/29/2010 01:52 PM, Michael Swan wrote: Dear all, I am having a bit of trouble finding a program to do an rmsd calculation and give

Re: [ccp4bb] Do carbon scattering include hydrogen

2011-01-16 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Hmm - there are some hydrogens which are simply not fixable from chemistry, or electron density at low (ie 1.5A!) resolution - any of us who have looked in vain for them can testify to that - and I cant think that it is good to add in scatterers when you dont know where they are. The ones

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac: sidechain bond breaks

2011-01-17 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Well - REFMAC and I think other refinement programs simply read in an atom with occupancy 0.00 and write it out again in exactly the same place.. All refinement contributions for atoms both Xray and geometrical are weighted by the atom occupancy so such an atom will not shift. The assumption

[ccp4bb] phaser MR hiccup

2011-01-17 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Does anyone know where to look for an error when PHASER outputs this message? Eleanor . * *** Phaser Module: AUTOMATED MOLECULAR REPLACEMENT 2.1.4 ***

Re: [ccp4bb] So many clashes

2011-01-18 Thread Eleanor Dodson
If your dataextends to 2A resolution I suggest you run Arp-Warp or Buccaneer to rebuild the structure. At that resolution the automated building programd can usually fix errors. At the end use this option to get the new build back to overlap the original csymmatch -pdbin-ref MR.pdb -pdbin

Re: [ccp4bb] Predefining origin for molecular replacement in polar space group

2011-01-20 Thread Eleanor Dodson
On 01/20/2011 01:44 PM, Shao-Yang Ku wrote: Dear all, Is there a way to specify (somewhat arbitrarily) a origin for any molecular replacement package (in a polar space group) without resorting to phased translation so that one could more easily compare results from different MR runs? Thanks,

Re: [ccp4bb] Merging statistics and systematic absences

2011-01-24 Thread Eleanor Dodson
I absolutely agree with Phil. However I think it is very important NOT to remove systematic absences before scala. There are many cases of mis-assigned space groups where systematic absences are misleading - due to NC translation or bad measurement or whatever Eleanor On 01/24/2011

Re: [ccp4bb] How to align electron density maps?

2011-01-31 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Coot does this seamlessly.. Eleanor SSM superpose A to B NCS Maps will generate the map around A over B - or vice versa.. Eleanor On 01/28/2011 06:15 PM, RONG hui Rong wrote: Dear All, I have the problem as follows, but I can not find the corresponding solution. Can somebody give me some

Re: [ccp4bb] Problem of Refinement and density map

2011-02-07 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Have you checked for twinning? Look at the plots after scala.. Eleanor On 02/07/2011 10:49 AM, Md. Munan Shaik wrote: Dear all, I have a question regarding the refinement and density map. My protein is 261 amino acids long and crystalize very nicely with very high resolution . There is no

Re: [ccp4bb] Let's talk pseudotranslational symmetry (or maybe it's bad data).

2011-02-09 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Yees - a translation of 0.5 along x means you must consider SGs P212121 and P2 21 21 since the absences will be present (at least at low resolution) with either SG. I dont know how good Phenix would be at distinguishing between z=0.233 and z=0.25 However even if the exact peak is at z0.25,

Re: [ccp4bb] ctruncate - FP=0?

2011-02-10 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Are you sure these are real FP=0 or reflections which werent measured but have been added for completeness of the h k l list. The check is whether the SigF is also 0.00 - in that case they are genuinely missing.. Eleanor On 02/09/2011 11:34 PM, Ed Pozharski wrote: I observe under some

Re: [ccp4bb] help in CONTACT

2011-02-15 Thread Eleanor Dodson
On 02/15/2011 04:36 PM, vineet joshi wrote: Dear CCP4ers, Is there any specific way that can help me locate the interactions between ligand (GTP) to any other residue in the protein(GTPase) using CONTACT. And how do I run CONTACT for a number of .pdb files(around 650) in one single step and

Re: [ccp4bb] MR problem in determining the number of identical molecules in ASU

2011-02-16 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Well P4 isnt a subgroup of P43212 - you would need P43 MR programs will often let you test several spacegroups. See Phaser MR or MOLREP - I would try that and choose the best Eleanor On 02/16/2011 02:48 PM, Ting-Wei Jiang wrote: Dear experts, Sorry for a simple question but confusing

Re: [ccp4bb] MR problem in determining the number of identical molecules in ASU

2011-02-16 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Another cause of difficulty - nothing really to do with the spacegroup selection - is when one copy of the model has much higher B factors than others. Most MR searches assume that the copies contribute more or less equally to scattering. If you assign too high a symmetry this will make MR

Re: [ccp4bb] strange P21 cell dimensions

2011-02-17 Thread Eleanor Dodson
On 02/17/2011 09:35 PM, Peter Grey wrote: Dear CCP4 and XDS users, I have a P21 case with some strange ratios in the cell dimensions : a, b=a, c=1.5a, 90, 105, 90. The native patterson shows a strong peak (40% of origin) at (x,0.5,0) indicating some pseudo symmetry. Such cell dimension and

Re: [ccp4bb] .pir file

2011-02-18 Thread Eleanor Dodson
On 02/18/2011 07:42 AM, Vellieux Frederic wrote: Arp Warp used to want a blank line between the MALDH title, and the first line of the sequence.. Not sure if that still holds. Eleanor a Hi Careina, Just an example of a pir file which I just generated (using Bart Hazes program mcfman):

Re: [ccp4bb] Calculating Difference Maps Between an RCSB data set and an mtz (Different Ligand)

2011-02-28 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Yes - you are. - There are some extra steps. Download pdbs and mtz files csymmmatch -pdbin-ref 1.pdb -pdbin 2.pdb -origin-hand -pdbout 2-to-1.pdb That checks they are on same origin and symmetry equivalent. refmac for 1.pdb refmac for 2-to-1.pdb cad to merge two refmac outputs. You will

Re: [ccp4bb] Problem with refinement and positive electron density

2011-03-03 Thread Eleanor Dodson
I think you have been caught by a new REFMAC feature which tries to design its own TLS groups including linked H2Os and ligands. Check your tls output records and see what it has clustered into a group.. I am not sure how to disable this - at times I want to override any automatic

Re: [ccp4bb] Is there any program for specifically calculating Rvalue in CCP4

2011-03-03 Thread Eleanor Dodson
On 03/03/2011 06:13 AM, Ting-Wei Jiang wrote: Dear all experts, I'm trying to calculate R-value (and free R) specifically which is between data and the modified structure(refined by myself without help from any program).I've looked the program for calculating a long while.Actually,I found one

Re: [ccp4bb] I/sigmaI of 3.0 rule

2011-03-03 Thread Eleanor Dodson
No - and I dont think it is accepted practice now either.. I often use I/SigI 1.5 for refinement.. Look at your Rfactor plots from REFMAC - if they look reasonable at higher resolution use the data Eleanor On 03/03/2011 11:29 AM, Roberto Battistutta wrote: Dear all, I got a reviewer

Re: [ccp4bb] Psedo-translation detected

2011-03-14 Thread Eleanor Dodson
On 03/12/2011 05:29 AM, Vandu Murugan wrote: Dear all, Recently I collected a data for my 20Kda protein in C2 space group, and ran SFcheck in ccp4 suite. It is giving an indication for pseudo-translation as 'Pseudo-translation is detected: 17.6% Pseudo-translation vector: 0.000

Re: [ccp4bb] molrep NOSG=-1 (space group checking)

2011-03-16 Thread Eleanor Dodson
I guess the only real choice is P2 21 21 or P21 21 21 - the absences alng h00 could be a result of the pseudo-translation. I cant explain the score - maybe there is something in the documentation? But I am afraid after refinement in P212121 the resultant model is sure to give the best score

Re: [ccp4bb] PISA server

2011-03-28 Thread Eleanor Dodson
I have found it erratic, and sometimes terribly slow, but that may be due to local network problems.. But it was working last week.. Eleanor On 03/26/2011 05:28 PM, Miri Hirshberg wrote: Sat., March 26th 2011 EBI Dear Dan, I've just checked (Sat. 17:25 British times), and uploading my

Re: [ccp4bb] Comparing conformations using LSQKAB

2011-04-04 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Well - I usually work in confunction with the graphics, so you can look at the regions which differ. I start with the rms difference. If that is 2, I think there are significant changes. So then you have to decide what Q you are asking, and why. Is it that you want to use a model for

Re: [ccp4bb] Twinning

2011-04-07 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Yes - that is true. Any crystal might be split, and give diffraction with overlapping lattices- ie show non-merohedral twinning. If you are lucky/careful you might only get a few spots which overlap after integration of one of the lattices- not enough to be detected as twinning from the

Re: [ccp4bb] Twinning

2011-04-11 Thread Eleanor Dodson
That translation is interesting - R3 indexed as hexagonal has a crystallographic translation of 0.667 0.333 0.333, so this one indicated by SFCHECK is related. The twinning is not very severe so it should refine OK from the PHASER solution. Is that so? Eleanor On 04/08/2011 05:50 AM,

Re: [ccp4bb] Script / program to change chain ID 's in symmetry mates

2011-04-11 Thread Eleanor Dodson
On 04/08/2011 12:17 PM, krishan wrote: Dear CCP4BB members, We are using a script written in python to generate symmetry mates for a given pdb file using PYMOL. After generating symmetry mates we want to combine all the symmetry molecules in a single PDB file with all the chains having

Re: [ccp4bb] Assigning secondary structure

2011-04-11 Thread Eleanor Dodson
On 04/08/2011 05:19 PM, Cale Dakwar wrote: Hello all, Given a PDB file of a newly solved protein structure, what is the standard procedure for assigning regions of secondary structure? And by this I mean to ask, how does one decide which residues form beta strands, which alpha helices, and so

Re: [ccp4bb] Comparing two proteins

2011-04-14 Thread Eleanor Dodson
On 04/13/2011 09:18 PM, REX PALMER wrote: Dear All What is the best program to use for comparing two protein structures which are very similar both structurally and wrt aa sequence? ie to get the rms deviations both generally and in selected regions. Rex Palmer Birkbeck College Using CCP4

Re: [ccp4bb] AMoRe fails to use model coordinates

2011-04-28 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Hmm - I use this quite a bit. ifier. You cant start Autoamore for a particular model until that has been entered into the model database - the first Q you are asked from the GUI is Which model? But you can certainly close the model database once you have entered the model name with a unique

Re: [ccp4bb] mtz2various command line R-free label?

2011-04-29 Thread Eleanor Dodson
I dont know - it works for me.. That is under Fedora x Eleanor mtz2various HKLIN ./ins_pig_zn_T2_hex-unique_refmac1.mtz HKLOUT ./ins_pig_zn_T2_hex-unique_refmac1.hkl OUTPUT CNS labin FP=FP SIGFP=SDFP PHIB=PHIC FREE=FreeR_flag end On 04/27/2011 07:26 PM, Kelly Daughtry wrote: Yes, you

Re: [ccp4bb] Map correlation coefficient

2011-04-29 Thread Eleanor Dodson
I guess one way would be to seperate coordinates.. But doesnt overlapmap do that by default? Eleanor On 04/21/2011 10:25 PM, Maher Alayyoubi wrote: Hi Everybody, I posted a question earlier on the bulletin regarding how to calculate the map correlation coefficient using Overlapamp or any

Re: [ccp4bb] phenix.real_space_correlation vs overlapmap

2011-05-10 Thread Eleanor Dodson
This may be too late to be of use, but as one of the authors of the sfall/overlapmap system.. sfall does generate a coded map which flags every grid point with a unique ID of the nearest atom, ie one which is unique providing there are not too many atoms - it is adequate for most molecules

Re: [ccp4bb] High B-factor for metal

2011-05-11 Thread Eleanor Dodson
On 05/11/2011 10:30 AM, ka...@ssl.serc.iisc.ernet.in wrote: Dear users, I have refined a structure in R3 with cadmium bound to it, which was present in the crystallization condition. There are 2 chains in the asu. The structure is twinned. R and Rfree is around 22% and 28%. One of the

Re: [ccp4bb] how convert SF to intensities

2011-05-13 Thread Eleanor Dodson
On 05/12/2011 08:13 PM, Fulvio Saccoccia wrote: Dear ccp4 users, I need to generate intensities from a model (.pdb). That is, I think that a correct procedure could be to convert model to structure factor and then obtain intensities squaring the SF. Does anyone know how can I do? Thanks in

Re: [ccp4bb] problem with LIBCHECK

2011-05-22 Thread Eleanor Dodson
If you have model coordinates for your CSA, I send those to the PRODRG server and let it generate a REFMAC style dictionary. You will need to make sure it is labelled as a peptide - cf the standatd residue cif files to see how to do that.. Then you need to enter the LINKR record into the pdb

Re: [ccp4bb] do we have to exclude Rfree columns when generating the real space density maps?

2011-05-24 Thread Eleanor Dodson
The default output for REFMAC Missing Data: For those reflections where the FP are missing, mFo is set equal to dFc. Hence the terms become FWT=dFC and DELFWT=0.0. the Rfree reflections are counted as missing hence there shouldnt be any bias intoroduced towards those Fobs assigned as free I

Re: [ccp4bb] Problems in refinement

2011-05-26 Thread Eleanor Dodson
How very odd! I have no ideas on the Zn phenonema - what do the R factor plots look like against resolution - is there some aberrant reflection which was part of the FreeR set? The theory is that excluding 5% of the data should not affect the model seriously at all.. Re the 2nd point. Two

Re: [ccp4bb] confused about ncs in this xtal and local correlation maps with maprot.

2011-05-29 Thread Eleanor Dodson
I havent used maprot for years. COOT does it very quickly and automatically. But it is tricky to get the matrices correct - can you give some more details and I will try to help Eleanor On 05/27/2011 11:33 PM, Francis E Reyes wrote: Hi all I was just fiddling around with ncs and maps, so I

Re: [ccp4bb] 回复:Re: [ccp4bb] High resolution + low resolution data sets from one crystal

2011-05-31 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Use the GUI Just feed the 2 sca files into pointless - choose one as the reference - it really shouldnt match which.. pointless will check the indexing is consistent, then give you an output file with the two sets merged and sorted together, with different batch numbers assigned. scala

Re: [ccp4bb] self rotation function

2011-06-06 Thread Eleanor Dodson
On 06/03/2011 02:01 PM, Careina Edgooms wrote: Dear ccp4 members I have question about how to interpret polarrfn log. I wish to know if my crystal display NCS. I am not sure how to interpret the file. I see it have two peak, one is origin and the other is not that high to me. I have attach copy

Re: [ccp4bb] anomalous difference map?

2011-06-06 Thread Eleanor Dodson
I cant comment on the pictures - but to calculate an anom map - if you have run REFMAC you will need to CAD together the refmac output plus the Dano SIGdano in the data processed file Use reflection utilies Merge mtz files then Map utilities FFT - select anomalous Fill in columns Dano

Re: [ccp4bb] Change cell parameter

2011-06-08 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Reindex your data as -h -k l or h -k -l - this will automatically change the cell to berta = 90.4 eleanor On 06/08/2011 04:10 PM, Vellieux Frederic wrote: Zhiyi Wei wrote: Dear all, I have a P2 derivative dataset with beta=89.6. I try to change the beta to 90.4 to be consistent with

Re: [ccp4bb] Two different asymmetric units from two different crystallization conditions

2011-06-09 Thread Eleanor Dodson
On 06/08/2011 07:19 PM, Shiva Bhowmik wrote: Dear All, I am working on a protein structure that yielded comparable diffraction quality crystals from two different crystallization condition. One of the crystallization condition conatins high conc. of salt pptant whereas the oher one contains

Re: [ccp4bb] regarding refinement and structure determination by MR

2011-06-09 Thread Eleanor Dodson
First Q. Checking the refined structure in detail.. This is personal. Basic - run REFMAC with monitor many - that lists really bad bonds, chirality, symmetry clashes etc, but frankly by the time you are at R=20% there shouldnt be many of those.. You need to be sure you have described any CIS

Re: [ccp4bb] Program to analyze water mediated interactions?

2011-06-15 Thread Eleanor Dodson
It helps to keep the same water naming convention in all the complexes. distang is a slow tool but it will list all contacts to a given set of atomic radii. I use that output a lot to check on interesting contacts.. But in the end it boils down to thoughtful book-keeping.. Eleanor On

Re: [ccp4bb] Unit cell change - was Re: [ccp4bb] XDS question

2011-06-15 Thread Eleanor Dodson
It looks like a rhombehedral data set with small deviations from the exact H3 symmetry to give the weak spots. The standard H3 setting has origins at (0,0,0) (1/3, 2/3, 2/3) and (2/3,1/3,1/3) so to get your translation vector to match the conventional H3 one, you will have to reindex the P321

Re: [ccp4bb] Solving the structure

2011-06-27 Thread Eleanor Dodson
On 06/24/2011 08:50 AM, mullapudi edukondalu wrote: Dear Members, I have my first data set on one of my protein crystals, that diffract to 2.7 A, and the space group is I222. According to Mathews coefficient, there should be 4 molecules in the asymmetric unit. But, when I run molecular

Re: [ccp4bb] MR question

2011-06-27 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Well - it isnt surprising that all your geometry is good at the start. You have fitted a refined structure against a a different crystal form, so the first geometry report relates to your starting model which will not be the true model which fits your new data. Refinement has to push that

Re: [ccp4bb] The Good and the Bad crystal contact?

2011-06-30 Thread Eleanor Dodson
On 06/29/2011 10:22 PM, Paul Lindblom wrote: Hi everybody, can anybody tell me how crystal contacts are defined? Are there good and bad crystal contacts? They are the most important interactions with impact on the crystal quality, but they are not of covalent nature, aren´t they? With best

Re: [ccp4bb] generate large symmetry model

2011-06-30 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Well - you have a problem of chain IDS, but pdbset xyzin asymm.pdb xyzout whole-cell.pdb symgen P212121 (say) end will generate a whole unit cell, then pdbset xyzin whole-cell.pdb xyzout whole-cell-+100 symgen x+1,y,z end etc will move that unitcell.pdb You would have to put them all

Re: [ccp4bb] Error in scalepack(Denzo)

2011-07-04 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Can you send a bit of the input file and the command script generated by the GUI Eleanor On 07/02/2011 07:48 AM, Sudhir Kumar wrote: Dear all I am trying to convert a scaled file (scaled using Automar) to mtz butit is showing follwoing error : #CCP4I TERMINATION STATUS 0 Error from script

Re: [ccp4bb] Twinning and Free R set generation

2011-07-04 Thread Eleanor Dodson
This is a problem not properly addressed - if you generate your FreeRflags in the highest possible Laue group for a system - eg P6/mmm if you SG is trigonal, then add these to the lower symmetry reflection list you are safe. It really should be done at the pointless stage but it isnt.. Here

Re: [ccp4bb] Strange density in Arg

2011-07-06 Thread Eleanor Dodson
On 07/04/2011 04:24 PM, ruheng wrote: Dear all, Recently we are working on an archaebacteria protein which was expressed and purified from E.coli by conventional procedures. After we solved the structure, we found that there is an extra density in one of the argninine as shown in the

Re: [ccp4bb] Map Using Both Bijvoet and Dispersive Differences with Model Phases

2011-07-06 Thread Eleanor Dodson
There are tools out there that calculate such a map. REVISE is one - I guess i is in the list of CCP4 programs. i often do both maps independently and look at them for common peaks The trouble is that dispersive differences are often less reliable than the anomalous ones.. Eleanor

Re: [ccp4bb] Potential Space Group Issuetely..

2011-07-09 Thread Eleanor Dodson
If there is no indication of twinning and your Rmerge is sensible then it is probably point group P222 Run pointless - that gives you the quality of each of the 2 folds sepera tely.. Deciding on the spacegroup is a bit trickier. That depends on absences along h00 0k0 and 00l, and if there

Re: [ccp4bb] How to rebuild a molecular only

2011-07-09 Thread Eleanor Dodson
On 07/09/2011 03:49 AM, weifeng wrote: Dear All, There are 8 moleculars in an asymmetry unit, but only one molecular should be rebulit, what can I do ? Thanks a lot! Wei Feng Use coot - average maps over your best molecule, rebuild that - save

[ccp4bb] Help with deleting reflections from an mtz file

2011-08-17 Thread Eleanor Dodson
There are 2 rogue reflections in a data set I have here. How can I eliminate them? I thought sftools did this but i cant seem to get the syntax right. Short of dumping the whole file, using an editor, then reconstructing it I am stuck.. Eleanor

Re: [ccp4bb] waters shell analysis

2011-08-30 Thread Eleanor Dodson
On 08/26/2011 10:18 AM, REX PALMER wrote: Once waters have been located and refined is there a program that analyses their positions in terms of solvation shells? Can the results be compared easily with those from related known protein structures? Rex Palmer

Re: [ccp4bb] twinning in hexagonal system

2011-09-05 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Dear John, In a hexagonal crystal class the possible point groups are P3 (only a 3-fold axis) P321(3-fold plus 2-fold relating hkl and kh-l) P312 (3-fold and 2-fold relating (hkl and -k,-h,-l) P6 ( 6 fold axis only) P622 (6-fold plus 2-fold relating hkl and k,h,-l) pointless will tell you which

Re: [ccp4bb] Temperature Factor statistics

2011-09-05 Thread Eleanor Dodson
On 08/31/2011 01:32 AM, Yuri Pompeu wrote: Quick newbie question, After i get my output file from baverage containing the average b-factor and rms by residues, How can I calculate and display the average (and or mean) B-factors? Is there a way of calculating it by protein, ligands and solvent

Re: [ccp4bb] Trying to digest PISA results

2011-09-05 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Like Jan, I find it very useful to sort out the clear cut cases. Otherwise it is easy to get things wrong.. But isnt a buried surface area of 720 rather small for a stable interface? If there is other confirming evidence like 2 diff space groups then you feel more secure!! On 09/01/2011

Re: [ccp4bb] question about sfall output

2011-09-05 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Hmm - Firstly: your final FC PHIC calculation are just wrong. I cant tell why without more details - is the SG set correctly, because those phases cannot reflect the SG symmetry.. Can you send the log file? For the scaling against Fobs Qs. It looks to me as though you are using values of Fobs

Re: [ccp4bb] ALMN

2011-09-12 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Yes - the RMS for the map is weighted by sin beta Here is the comment: C Mean RMS need to be weighted by sin beta, to allow for distortions c in Eulerian space. c On the last section, if beta = 90, the weight is 1/2 because of c symmetry. Here we only need to test for last

Re: [ccp4bb] Structure problem

2011-09-13 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Are you absolutely sure of the spacegroup? Eleanor On 09/13/2011 09:55 AM, #HEW KAI LI KELLY# wrote: Hi, I am facing some problems in solving my structure now, so I am wondering if anyone is able to give me any tips and tricks on this matter. My protein-DNA complex structure diffracted to

Re: [ccp4bb] density modification help

2011-09-19 Thread Eleanor Dodson
First the C2221 cell is a version of the hexagonal with the 2-fold axes now aligned along the a=b 2-fold in the hexagonal. But I dont think you can define NCS properly without some knowledge of coordinates. If you have enough anomalous scatterers that might allow you to get a start. Does

Re: [ccp4bb] Anomalous map average by NCS

2011-09-22 Thread Eleanor Dodson
The cooot method is easiest, as long as you have model coordinates. Then coot works out the transformation between molecule 1, 2, etc and averages any map requested to cover molecule 1. However if you dont have a model it is very tricky to get a proper transformation matrix. If you have

Re: [ccp4bb] Direct method solution at 1.15A

2011-09-26 Thread Eleanor Dodson
At this resolution you may/ should be able to find anamalous scatterers using the anom signal from P and S. the SHELXC/D/(E) package is very good at this! Once you have the sites for the heavier atoms I would expect most direct methods programs couild extend that sub-structure. Certainly

Re: [ccp4bb] Apparent twinning in P 1 21 1

2011-09-28 Thread Eleanor Dodson
You might like to look at this.. It tries to explain likely twinning possibilities in P21. If you get C and P21, then probably a~=c - then Beta can have any value. C222 axes are then always possible with a* +c* , a*-c*, b* all having angles ~ 90 Without twinning you wont get 222

Re: [ccp4bb] Ligand Protein Connection

2011-09-30 Thread Eleanor Dodson
On 09/29/2011 10:12 PM, Sam Arnosti wrote: Hi every one I have a problem with docking my ligand into the electron density map and make the connections ( bonds ) with the protein. It is a Lysine residue that makes a Schiff Base with a long chain aldehyde. I do not know how to make the bonds

Re: [ccp4bb] Ramachandran Restraints in refmac

2011-09-30 Thread Eleanor Dodson
On 09/30/2011 08:01 AM, Yuri Pompeu wrote: Hello everyone, I am refining a structure to 2.4A with 2-fold NCS and twinned. Maps look ok and Rfree is 0.27however as I start checking my validations I notice that after refinemnt my geomtry gets significantly worse. especially the rama plot.

Re: [ccp4bb] Anomalous patterson not consistent with systematic extinctions

2011-10-03 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Further Qs. Do you have a noncryst translation parallel to the b axis (ctruncate will list any such translation..) If the b shift is 0.5 then the 0k0 absences will be present whether the spacegroup is P2 or P21. How many Xe sites do you expect? If there is only one then phasing is more

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