[cctalk] Re: Computer Museum uses GreaseWeazle to help exonerate Maryland Man

2023-02-02 Thread Tom Hunter via cctalk
Chuck, the CDC 7600 duty cycle integrator is really a work-around against overheating and has nothing to do with core reliability and/or endurance. Core and the data stored in it lives "forever" if the operating constraints of the medium are adhered to (temperature being one of the constraints).

[cctalk] Re: ZFS, was [... GreaseWeazle ..]

2023-02-02 Thread Steve Lewis via cctalk
On Thu, Feb 2, 2023 at 5:54 AM emanuel stiebler via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > On 2023-02-02 04:38, David Brownlee wrote: > > > So, what else do you guys use, to make sure your data is safe for the > > years to come? > I wanted to note a story about AWS: I used to be heavy into

[cctalk] Re: Computer Museum uses GreaseWeazle to help exonerate Maryland Man

2023-02-02 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 2/2/23 21:23, Tom Hunter via cctalk wrote: > The actual ferrite core doughnuts do not break down with continued use, BUT > moisture or mechanical impact or vibration will damage or degrade the > ferrite cores. Otherwise the ferrite doughnut will live and maintain its > properties "forever".

[cctalk] Re: ZFS, was [... GreaseWeazle ..]

2023-02-02 Thread Grant Taylor via cctalk
On 2/2/23 4:28 PM, Jim Brain wrote: Hmm, I'd be happy to do a Zoom call to show folks.  Git can be complicated, but the simpler items are easy and using the command line git connected to a github/bitbucket/gitlab repo and a simple git push and all your local data/files under control are

[cctalk] Re: Computer Museum uses GreaseWeazle to help exonerate Maryland Man

2023-02-02 Thread Tom Hunter via cctalk
The actual ferrite core doughnuts do not break down with continued use, BUT moisture or mechanical impact or vibration will damage or degrade the ferrite cores. Otherwise the ferrite doughnut will live and maintain its properties "forever". The main cause of core memory mat faults is mechanical

[cctalk] Re: After more than three years, U of Iowa's PDP-8 project active again

2023-02-02 Thread Sellam Abraham via cctalk
On Thu, Feb 2, 2023 at 3:45 PM Van Snyder via cctalk wrote: > On Thu, 2023-02-02 at 18:28 -0500, William Sudbrink via cctalk wrote: > > After more than three years, U of Iowa's PDP-8 project active again > > Years ago, I had a colleague named Prentiss Knowlton who built a > solenoid bank to

[cctalk] Re: ZFS, was [... GreaseWeazle ..]

2023-02-02 Thread Sellam Abraham via cctalk
On Thu, Feb 2, 2023 at 3:53 PM Bill Gunshannon via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > On 2/2/2023 6:39 PM, Sellam Abraham via cctalk wrote: > > Hi Jim. > > > > I'd be down for that. It would also be an opportunity to socialize a > > little bit. I don't believe we've ever had an

[cctalk] Re: CD-R, DVD-R media available

2023-02-02 Thread Ali via cctalk
> For ordinary CD's I've always used MAM-A Gold. Started buying when it > was a Mitsui brand and haven't had a single failure. Chuck, Which brand is MAM-A? -Ali

[cctalk] Re: After more than three years, U of Iowa's PDP-8 project active again

2023-02-02 Thread Mike Begley via cctalk
Nice! Years back I gave Dr. Jones my PDP-8/L, prior to moving out of Iowa. I wonder if he still has it, and put it to use. -mike -Original Message- From: William Sudbrink via cctalk Sent: Thursday, February 2, 2023 3:29 PM To: 'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts' Cc:

[cctalk] Re: ZFS, was [... GreaseWeazle ..]

2023-02-02 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 2/2/2023 6:39 PM, Sellam Abraham via cctalk wrote: On Thu, Feb 2, 2023 at 3:28 PM Jim Brain via cctalk wrote: I've tried a few times to make sense of how GitHub works but I gave up. It's a mess. Sellam Hmm, I'd be happy to do a Zoom call to show folks. Git can be complicated, but the

[cctalk] Re: After more than three years, U of Iowa's PDP-8 project active again

2023-02-02 Thread Van Snyder via cctalk
On Thu, 2023-02-02 at 18:28 -0500, William Sudbrink via cctalk wrote: > After more than three years, U of Iowa's PDP-8 project active again Years ago, I had a colleague named Prentiss Knowlton who built a solenoid bank to connect to his PDP-8. He put the solenoid bank on the keyboard of the

[cctalk] Re: ZFS, was [... GreaseWeazle ..]

2023-02-02 Thread Sellam Abraham via cctalk
On Thu, Feb 2, 2023 at 3:28 PM Jim Brain via cctalk wrote: > > I've tried a few times to make sense of how GitHub works but I gave up. > > It's a mess. > > > > Sellam > > Hmm, I'd be happy to do a Zoom call to show folks. Git can be > complicated, but the simpler items are easy and using the

[cctalk] Re: After more than three years, U of Iowa's PDP-8 project active again

2023-02-02 Thread Bill Degnan via cctalk
I keep forgetting to mention that I got a straight 8 too. Plan to start working on it in the spring. Bill On Thu, Feb 2, 2023, 6:30 PM William Sudbrink via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > Forgot the link: > > https://homepage.divms.uiowa.edu/~jones/pdp8/UI-8/log.shtml > > >

[cctalk] Re: After more than three years, U of Iowa's PDP-8 project active again

2023-02-02 Thread William Sudbrink via cctalk
Forgot the link: https://homepage.divms.uiowa.edu/~jones/pdp8/UI-8/log.shtml -Original Message- From: William Sudbrink via cctalk [mailto:cctalk@classiccmp.org] Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2023 6:28 PM To: 'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts' Cc: William Sudbrink

[cctalk] After more than three years, U of Iowa's PDP-8 project active again

2023-02-02 Thread William Sudbrink via cctalk
After more than three years, U of Iowa's PDP-8 project active again -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com

[cctalk] Re: ZFS, was [... GreaseWeazle ..]

2023-02-02 Thread Jim Brain via cctalk
On 2/2/2023 1:47 PM, Sellam Abraham via cctalk wrote: On Thu, Feb 2, 2023 at 11:26 AM Vincent Slyngstad via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: I've also seen a work style where everything is pushed to github when "finished", but github storage limits are small and the interface is awkward

[cctalk] Re: 1975 Homebrew Computer Club Newsletter

2023-02-02 Thread Doug Jackson via cctalk
I love the small note about Steve Wozniak in the second magazine... lots of hardware experience - Time poor :-) Kindest regards, Doug Jackson em: d...@doughq.com ph: 0414 986878 Check out my awesome clocks at www.dougswordclocks.com Follow my amateur radio adventures at vk1zdj.net On Fri,

[cctalk] Re: 1975 Homebrew Computer Club Newsletter

2023-02-02 Thread Sellam Abraham via cctalk
On Thu, Feb 2, 2023 at 1:34 PM Tarek Hoteit via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > One website has an archive of the first Homebrew Computer Club > newsletters. The newsletter is associated with the Homebrew club that > kicked off the personal computer revolution > >

[cctalk] 1975 Homebrew Computer Club Newsletter

2023-02-02 Thread Tarek Hoteit via cctalk
One website has an archive of the first Homebrew Computer Club newsletters. The newsletter is associated with the Homebrew club that kicked off the personal computer revolution https://arkive.net/gallery/homebrew-computer-club Regards, Tarek Hoteit

[cctalk] Re: ZFS, was [... GreaseWeazle ..]

2023-02-02 Thread Sellam Abraham via cctalk
On Thu, Feb 2, 2023 at 11:26 AM Vincent Slyngstad via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > I've also seen a work style where everything is pushed to github when > "finished", but github storage limits are small and the interface is > awkward to me. > I've tried a few times to make sense of

[cctalk] Re: ZFS, was [... GreaseWeazle ..]

2023-02-02 Thread ben via cctalk
On 2023-02-02 8:27 a.m., Jon Elson via cctalk wrote: I do many backups on blu-ray DVD's, the theory is if they start to go bad, maybe partial recovery of important files will be possible due to having many copies on DVD. This is getting a bit difficult as the amount of stuff to be backed up

[cctalk] Re: Computer Museum uses GreaseWeazle to help exonerate Maryland Man

2023-02-02 Thread ben via cctalk
On 2023-02-02 8:25 a.m., Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: As Will pointed out, cores are fairly large storage elements, and their switching speeds are more modest. Not necessarily quite so modest, though -- the CDC 6600 mainframes in 1964 had memory cycling at 1 MHz rate, which means the basic

[cctalk] Re: ZFS, was [... GreaseWeazle ..]

2023-02-02 Thread Vincent Slyngstad via cctalk
On 2/2/2023 3:54 AM, emanuel stiebler via cctalk wrote: So, what else do you guys use, to make sure your data is safe for the years to come? I maintain a large SVN repository, which also serves as the backing store for my website. I rely on the backup policies at DreamHost, but I also keep

[cctalk] Re: ZFS, was [... GreaseWeazle ..]

2023-02-02 Thread Wayne S via cctalk
I have a Synology 4-bay san that has 4 2-tb drives in a raid stripe. I backup to that. I do convert software cd’s and dvd to .iso and floppies to .img and copy the results to the san. Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 2, 2023, at 07:27, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote: > > On 2/2/23 05:54, emanuel

[cctalk] Re: Core memory (was Re: Computer Museum uses GreaseWeazle to help exonerate Maryland Man)

2023-02-02 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Feb 2, 2023, at 11:03 AM, Sellam Abraham via cctalk > wrote: > > This discussion on core memory got me thinking: > > Is it possible to "read" core memory by examining each core using some kind > of instrument that would sense its "charge" (or lack thereof) > non-destructively? > >

[cctalk] Re: Core memory (was Re: Computer Museum uses GreaseWeazle to help exonerate Maryland Man)

2023-02-02 Thread Will Cooke via cctalk
> On 02/02/2023 10:03 AM CST Sellam Abraham via cctalk > wrote: > > > This discussion on core memory got me thinking: > > Is it possible to "read" core memory by examining each core using some kind > of instrument that would sense its "charge" (or lack thereof) > non-destructively? > >

[cctalk] Re: Core memory (was Re: Computer Museum uses GreaseWeazle to help exonerate Maryland Man)

2023-02-02 Thread Sellam Abraham via cctalk
This discussion on core memory got me thinking: Is it possible to "read" core memory by examining each core using some kind of instrument that would sense its "charge" (or lack thereof) non-destructively? Could a piece of paper be placed over a core plane and fine particles of iron sprinkled

[cctalk] Re: ZFS, was [... GreaseWeazle ..]

2023-02-02 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 2/2/23 05:54, emanuel stiebler via cctalk wrote: On 2023-02-02 04:38, David Brownlee wrote: > That reminds me (looks at 43.5T of zfs pool that has not had a scrub > since 2021). > > It can be nice to have a filesystem which handles redundancy and also > the option to occasionally read all

[cctalk] Re: Computer Museum uses GreaseWeazle to help exonerate Maryland Man

2023-02-02 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Feb 2, 2023, at 10:17 AM, Jon Elson via cctalk > wrote: > > On 2/1/23 22:10, Will Cooke via cctalk wrote: >> >>> On 02/01/2023 3:51 PM CST Paul Koning via cctalk >>> wrote: >>> >> ot sure about that. What sort of numbers are we talking about? >>> If all else fails there's core

[cctalk] Re: Computer Museum uses GreaseWeazle to help exonerate Maryland Man

2023-02-02 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 2/1/23 22:10, Will Cooke via cctalk wrote: On 02/01/2023 3:51 PM CST Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: ot sure about that. What sort of numbers are we talking about? If all else fails there's core memory, which as far as I remember is pretty much unlimited for both read and write. paul I

[cctalk] Re: ZFS, was [... GreaseWeazle ..]

2023-02-02 Thread Jonathan Chapman via cctalk
> So, what else do you guys use, to make sure your data is safe for the > years to come? ZFS and redundant copies of important stuff, plus backups on media that's likely to be readable in 10 years (meaning the drives must still work/be available, too!) Anything that's appropriate to have on a

[cctalk] ZFS, was [... GreaseWeazle ..]

2023-02-02 Thread emanuel stiebler via cctalk
On 2023-02-02 04:38, David Brownlee wrote: > That reminds me (looks at 43.5T of zfs pool that has not had a scrub > since 2021). > > It can be nice to have a filesystem which handles redundancy and also > the option to occasionally read all the data, check end to end > checksums (in the unlikely

[cctalk] Re: Computer of Thesus (was: Re: Re: Computer Museum uses GreaseWeazle to help exonerate Maryland Man)

2023-02-02 Thread Christian Corti via cctalk
On Wed, 1 Feb 2023, skogkatt...@yahoo.com wrote: You stop being rude you big burly baby. Get a life. I'm not your hobby, as hard as you're trying to make me so. *PLONK*

[cctalk] Re: HP 41-CX

2023-02-02 Thread Doug Jackson via cctalk
I would be interested in it - Happy to pay postage to Australia, and a bit for the machine ;-) Kindest regards, Doug Jackson em: d...@doughq.com ph: 0414 986878 On Thu, 2 Feb 2023 at 20:42, David Brownlee via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > I had some idea of trying to get money

[cctalk] Re: HP 41-CX

2023-02-02 Thread David Brownlee via cctalk
I had some idea of trying to get money for an HP 41-CX a while back, but on balance I think it's best to just go to someone who might be interested in fixing it up and valuing it for what it is. So - FTGH, just the cost of shipping (photo link below still valid) David On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 at

[cctalk] Re: Computer Museum uses GreaseWeazle to help exonerate Maryland Man

2023-02-02 Thread David Brownlee via cctalk
On Wed, 1 Feb 2023 at 17:13, emanuel stiebler via cctalk wrote: > > On 2023-02-01 10:56, Warner Losh wrote: > > > > On Wed, Feb 1, 2023 at 1:41 AM emanuel stiebler via cctalk > > mailto:cctalk@classiccmp.org>> wrote: > > > retension in case of power off. > > If the power is applied all