On 1/31/2024 8:30 PM, mark audacity romberg via cctalk wrote:
I suppose I should’ve specified “of the versions of BASIC I’ve ever heard
anyone talk about still using this century.” :P
Basic09 is probably still in use on OS9000.
VAX BASIC is still in use on VMS ALPHA and Itanium and is abo
I suppose I should’ve specified “of the versions of BASIC I’ve ever heard
anyone talk about still using this century.” :P
On 1/31/2024 1:14 PM, mark audacity romberg via cctalk wrote:
BBC BASIC is the best BASIC there ever was, and I feel sad for those who have
never used it to see how powerful BASIC can be with proper structured
programming. It’s honestly like a different language.
Basic09? VAX BASIC? RST
The Enter museum in Switzerland has a nice library of docs. I found that
museum to be chock full of interesting German and other computers. Worth
the trip.
Bill
On Wed, Jan 31, 2024, 7:02 PM Nigel Johnson Ham via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> I do remember reading that lot of British
On Wed, 31 Jan 2024, Nigel Johnson Ham via cctalk wrote:
I do remember reading that lot of British computers were quite superior
to the rest of the world, but sold for inland use only. The reason given
was that we couldn't figure out ow to make them leak oil!
cheers,
Nigel
Did Lucas make co
I do remember reading that lot of British computers were quite superior
to the rest of the world, but sold for inland use only. The reason
given was that we couldn't figure out ow to make them leak oil!
cheers,
Nigel
On 2024-01-31 14:05, Martin Bishop via cctalk wrote:
<>
One standard wo
Hi Kevin,
Often that is because you signed up using an old email that is forwarded to
your current email - Have a look at the message headers to see which email
it is sending messages to. You can then log into the list manager with
that email and remove yourself.
it is particularly tricky for me
I haven't worked on 8" drives since the early 80's with th exception of
the RX02 drives on my PDP-8.
And DEC worked their own "magic" on those drives :)
Thanks for the help.
On 1/31/2024 3:59 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:
On 1/31/24 13:03, Mike Katz via cctalk wrote:
Michael,
Thank you,
I believe the pull ups are all on inputs from the external controller
and not for outputs from the drive itself. Looking at the schematic the
Index output (J1-P20) does not go through the pull up resistors.
Thanks again for your help.
On 1/31/2024 3:59 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:
On 1/
I don't even have an APC anymore. But since this thing is eyeing me menacingly
I figured I'd put the request out. Butler Flats Associates dual external 5 1/4"
accoutrement, has it's own controller card (based on wd1771/1772 iirc). Contact
me off list if you have these. Much appreciated.
Sent wi
On 1/31/24 13:03, Mike Katz via cctalk wrote:
> Michael,
>
> Thank you, that was what I was planning as my next step. I haven't
> checked to see if the service manual has a full schematic.
>
> The main purpose of my message on here was to see if I was missing
> something obvious like an option t
That is one of the tests recommended in the service manual. It's on my
list of things to check.
Thank you...
On 1/31/2024 2:17 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:
On 1/31/24 11:12, Mike Katz via cctalk wrote:
I have not yet tried installing terminating resistors...
That might help. It's also
Michael,
Thank you, that was what I was planning as my next step. I haven't
checked to see if the service manual has a full schematic.
The main purpose of my message on here was to see if I was missing
something obvious like an option trace cut or something like that that I
missed when I ch
On 1/31/24 11:12, Mike Katz via cctalk wrote:
> I have not yet tried installing terminating resistors...
That might help. It's also possible that the LED/phototransistor for
the SS index position is faulty. The two LEDs (SS and DS) are connected
in series, so you know that at least one isn't ope
Connect an oscilloscope to the output of the single-sided sensor and see if
it works. If so, trace the signal through the logic and see if it gets to
the I/O connector that goes to the greaseweazel.
On Wed, Jan 31, 2024 at 2:38 PM Mike Katz via cctalk
wrote:
> I have recently acquired a Qume Mod
I have recently acquired a Qume Model 842 double sided 8" disk drive.
I have reset all of the settings to factory default and hooked it up to
my greastweazle.
The drive works perfectly for double sided disks (using the appropriate
index hole).
However, the greaseweasel reports no index puls
<>
One standard work is "The First Computers : History and Architectures"
Ed Rojas, et al
MIT Press; 2002; ISBN 0-262-68137-4
US : 5 sections
Germany : 7 sections
UK : 5 sections
Japan : 2 sections
as an indication of activity
<>
In the UK context, where there is on-line documentation of the IC
Ah, PPC VME cards, add VXworks, funky coprocessors, COTS IO and you have
definitely got something best avoided : details would involve libations.
The conduction cooled chassis are OK and worth repurposing. Contrariwise the
VME bus is best avoided, whether classic 32b VME or the 64 bit revision.
> On Jan 31, 2024, at 1:39 PM, Wouter de Waal via cctalk
> wrote:
>
>
>> I have found that computers are much like motorcycles: many of the most
>> interesting were never available in the US.
>
> Computers are much like motorcycles: many of the most interesting ones were
> TERRIBLE!
I wo
I have found that computers are much like motorcycles: many of the
most interesting were never available in the US.
Computers are much like motorcycles: many of the most interesting
ones were TERRIBLE!
W
Anyone have a VMEbus system they use at least occasionally? If so, what
make/model/config?
I still use a couple of PPC VME boards (DY4 / Curtiss Wright 182/183/184, both
Conduction-Cooled and Air-Cooled) to test the tail end of hardware that we are
still shipping (by now EOL and basically NO
BBC BASIC is the best BASIC there ever was, and I feel sad for those who have
never used it to see how powerful BASIC can be with proper structured
programming. It’s honestly like a different language.
> On Jan 31, 2024, at 12:05, Sellam Abraham via cctalk
> wrote:
>
> right now I'm on a BB
On Wed, Jan 31, 2024 at 9:13 AM Liam Proven via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> On Wed, 31 Jan 2024 at 14:23, Christopher Satterfield via cctalk
> wrote:
> >
> > I'm going to be presenting a (fine? idk) collection of British Computers.
> > Dragging along at least an Acorn RiscPC 700, a C
> On 01/31/2024 11:34 AM CST Henry Bent via cctalk
> wrote:
>
>
> On Wed, 31 Jan 2024 at 12:13, Liam Proven via cctalk
> wrote:
>
> I write for an international audience and sometimes people from the
> > USA are openly and repeatedly incredulous that "obscure" British
> > computers -- that me
That would be very interesting. I always thought Apricot made some beasts and
remeber the cover of Byte for the first 486 system being an Apricot VX. I would
love to see that machine in person.
Original message From: Christopher Satterfield via cctalk
Date: 1/31/24 6:23 AM (
On Wed, 31 Jan 2024 at 12:13, Liam Proven via cctalk
wrote:
I write for an international audience and sometimes people from the
> USA are openly and repeatedly incredulous that "obscure" British
> computers -- that means they've never heard of them -- can be
> considered significant or important,
On Wed, 31 Jan 2024 at 14:23, Christopher Satterfield via cctalk
wrote:
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> I'm going to be presenting a (fine? idk) collection of British Computers.
> Dragging along at least an Acorn RiscPC 700, a Castle Iyonix, Sinclair
> Spectrum 48k and a Q68. Possibly static Apricot FP1/F1 if I can be bother
I have a Sun3E VMEbus system. It is a Sun3/60 split into five 6Ux160 VMEbus
boards.
On Wed, Jan 31, 2024 at 8:57 AM Bill Degnan via cctalk <
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> Sorry, that is the old FAQ and may not be correct, here is a newer page
> https://classiccmp.org/mailman3/postorius/lists/cc
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On Wed, Jan 31, 2024, at 2:57 PM, Bill Degnan via cctalk wrote:
> Sorry, that is the old FAQ and may not be correct, here is a newer page
> https://classiccmp.org/mailman3/postorius/lists/cctalk.classiccmp.org/
>
> On Wed, Jan 31, 2024 at 7:11 AM Kevin Lee
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I'm going to be presenting a (fine? idk) collection of British Computers.
Dragging along at least an Acorn RiscPC 700, a Castle Iyonix, Sinclair
Spectrum 48k and a Q68. Possibly static Apricot FP1/F1 if I can be bothered
to reassemble them despite their non-functional states.
Sorry, that is the old FAQ and may not be correct, here is a newer page
https://classiccmp.org/mailman3/postorius/lists/cctalk.classiccmp.org/
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On Wed, Jan 31, 2024, at 12:14 PM, Tom Ivar Helbekkmo via cctalk wrote:
> Bill Degnan via cctalk writes:
>
> > Anyone have a VMEbus system they use at least occasionally? If so, what
> > make/model/config?
>
> I have a couple of old Stride Micro systems, a 440
Bill Degnan via cctalk writes:
> Anyone have a VMEbus system they use at least occasionally? If so, what
> make/model/config?
I have a couple of old Stride Micro systems, a 440 and a 460, that get
turned on very occasionally. They run UniStride 2.1, which is based on
SVR2, if memory serves. Ni
On Tue, 30 Jan 2024, Alan Perry wrote:
I was given a Sun 3/260 that had been sitting in an open barn for a
decade. It is a 12-slot, 9U VME system. I got it running with its CPU
board (25Mhz 68020) and a Sun 32M memory board (the 8M board it came
with has a h/w issue).
Our SUN 4/260 is still r
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