[cctalk] Re: MS-DOS am I the only person who liked the win 3.1 UI?

2024-08-01 Thread cz via cctalk
For awhile I would simply run PROGMAN.EXE on Windows NT, it would bring up the traditional window interface. Eventually I got used to the Windows 95/98 model. C On 8/1/2024 4:57 AM, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote: On Wed, 31 Jul 2024 at 15:33, CAREY SCHUG via cctalk wrote: Am i the ONLY

[cctalk] Re: MS-DOS

2024-07-31 Thread cz via cctalk
Windows NT and 2000 did not have the "cut through" ability for apps to talk to video without going through security proxies, thus games were always terrible on them. Windows XP was the first OS (well aside from Windows 95/ME/whatever) that allowed fast access. This made it a security

[cctalk] Re: MS-DOS

2024-07-30 Thread cz via cctalk
Pretty much, though Windows2000 was a significant redesign over NT4. I was one of the first users of NT4 at the IEEE Computer Society in the early 90's. We ran it on TALOS, the 8 CPU NCR 3550 system and it was one of the first truly SMP systems out there (with dual Microchannel busses as

[cctalk] Re: NeXT computer system...

2024-07-16 Thread cz via cctalk
It uses the 3 volt Lithium cell found in later Apple devices. Should not leak or explode, replace it and move on. Needed to start up the NeXT. C On 7/16/2024 10:21 AM, John Robertson via cctalk wrote: On 2024/07/16 6:28 a.m., Paul Koning wrote: On Jul 16, 2024, at 9:05 AM, John Robertson

[cctalk] Re: LCM auction pre-notice

2024-07-15 Thread cz via cctalk
Who'll then convert it or embed in pieces into a furniture set to impress guests, because why not. Sigh. To be honest, Elon was the other person who was really interested in AI, and now that I think about it he may have been a better custodian. I mean sure: He would have just stuck it on

[cctalk] Re: LCM auction pre-notice

2024-07-14 Thread cz via cctalk
What makes you think that?  Some rich guy may buy a whole computer so he can get another keyboard to hang on the wall with the rest of his keyboard collection.  And scrap the rest. Always possible. Better chance of being saved than when a recycler buys the rest. Seriously folks: Paul was a

[cctalk] Re: LCM auction pre-notice

2024-07-14 Thread cz via cctalk
Well, a contract is secured with a trusted trasher to come in and clear the place out. Much like what happens when an old person dies. They come in, load up trucks, take it to the recycling center and get an appropriately sized check. No point dealing with little money things. The goal is to

[cctalk] Re: LCM auction pre-notice

2024-07-14 Thread cz via cctalk
Thanks for the notice. Not that any of us will be high bidders but good to at least follow along with the community that cares. I'd be happy if a rich person bought the stuff, at least it would not be scrapped. But I'm still guessing the "prettiest" things will be sold at auction and the rest

[cctalk] Re: what to do with our "treasures"

2024-07-01 Thread cz via cctalk
Actually I am travelling to France in a few weeks and there is an RM80 platter HDA I could pick up. What is the complexity of just checking it as baggage? Do I have to declare it at Customs if the value is like zilch? CZ On 7/1/2024 8:41 PM, ben via cctalk wrote: On 2024-07-01 6:31 p.m.,

[cctalk] Re: Revocable Living Trust for Computer Collectors

2024-06-26 Thread cz via cctalk
*nod* And then there's the PERQ tapes and schematics that we rescued from Bob Davis' house over a decade after he died in a tragic accident. That may be the last and only copy of PERQ OS and application files, he was the guardian of those systems. The writer and maintainer of the FAQ. And

[cctalk] Re: Seattle’s Living Computers Museum logs off for good as Paul Allen estate will auction vintage items

2024-06-25 Thread cz via cctalk
Nope. LCM had a KI-10, ISTR it was half of a dual CPU system from Kiel. When I visted there was a 2060 and a 2065, as well as a KS. I understand that later they acquired a KA and the MIT-MC KL (1080). Yep, my error. I saw the picture in Christie's and thought "Heh, they picked the shiny cup"

[cctalk] Re: Seattle’s Living Computers Museum logs off for good as Paul Allen estate will auction vintage items

2024-06-25 Thread cz via cctalk
On 6/25/2024 8:11 PM, Sellam Abraham via cctalk wrote: By the way, I think I already indicated this, but if anyone has a legitimate claim, the disbursement of the collection could be challenged in court, and some alternate outcome decreed by virtue of public policy (sometimes we can use

[cctalk] Re: Seattle’s Living Computers Museum logs off for good as Paul Allen estate will auction vintage items

2024-06-25 Thread cz via cctalk
ASAP. Also send via registered mail. And if you are claiming ownership, send a copy to the auction house. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 25, 2024, at 15:27, cz via cctalk wrote: Yeah, but at least for AI he actually seemed to care about it as something he used back in the early 80's. *sigh* I

[cctalk] Re: Seattle’s Living Computers Museum logs off for good as Paul Allen estate will auction vintage items

2024-06-25 Thread cz via cctalk
n 25, 2024, 6:31 PM Wayne S via cctalk wrote: You should draft the letter ASAP. Also send via registered mail. And if you are claiming ownership, send a copy to the auction house. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 25, 2024, at 15:27, cz via cctalk wrote: Yeah, but at least for AI he actually seem

[cctalk] Re: Seattle’s Living Computers Museum logs off for good as Paul Allen estate will auction vintage items

2024-06-25 Thread cz via cctalk
Dumb asses couldn't even get the computer right. "A highlight of the sale is a computer that Allen helped restore and on which he worked, a DEC PDP-10: KI-10. Built in 1971, it’s the first computer that both Allen and Microsoft co-founder Bill Gates ever used prior to founding Microsoft.

[cctalk] Re: Seattle’s Living Computers Museum logs off for good as Paul Allen estate will auction vintage items

2024-06-25 Thread cz via cctalk
Had Allen given final instructions that the entire LCM be cleaned out and melted for scrap, would you still think that he needed an excuse? It was his money; he had no reason to explain what he did with it or with the toys that he purchased. If he had done that, that would be fine (although

[cctalk] Re: Seattle’s Living Computers Museum logs off for good as Paul Allen estate will auction vintage items

2024-06-25 Thread cz via cctalk
Yeah, but at least for AI he actually seemed to care about it as something he used back in the early 80's. *sigh* I was wondering if it would come to this. I guess I need to draft a letter to the executor of this mess, asking them to please open AI, look in the inside metal pocket on the

[cctalk] Re: Lunar Lander, bug

2024-06-17 Thread cz via cctalk
Didn't know the source code had been released in FOCAL. I wonder if it will run on a 4k pdp8/L. One way to find out. On 6/17/2024 4:38 AM, emanuel stiebler via cctalk wrote: Interesting reading, as I believe, we all played it at least once :)

[cctalk] Re: Video/keyboard mono cable for Sun 386i

2024-05-30 Thread cz via cctalk
I have one around here somewhere. Sun built two cables, one was for the color boards (CGThree and CGFive) and the other was for monochrome systems (the D15). In the meantime you can hook a computer to the RS232 port and start running the thing headless to see what's there. Note, you're going