On 3/11/23 14:18, Wayne S via cctalk wrote:
I’ve heard of people using electric toaster ovens for reflow work. There’s a
few YouTube videos about it. Should work for baking tapes too. I think there
was quite a discussion about it on cctalk a few years ago.
I have used a large GE toaster oven
> On Mar 11, 2023, at 3:18 PM, Wayne S via cctalk wrote:
>
> I’ve heard of people using electric toaster ovens for reflow work. There’s a
> few YouTube videos about it. Should work for baking tapes too. I think there
> was quite a discussion about it on cctalk a few years ago.
Yes, for exam
On 3/11/23 11:51, John Herron via cctalk wrote:
> Maybe a dumb question but would an easy bake oven be a good device or are
> they not good at holding temp control?
No--you really need good temperature control for two reasons (at least
in my experience):
1. Magnetic media on a mylar substrate doe
I’ve heard of people using electric toaster ovens for reflow work. There’s a
few YouTube videos about it. Should work for baking tapes too. I think there
was quite a discussion about it on cctalk a few years ago.
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> On Mar 11, 2023, at 11:52, John Herron via cctalk
> wrote
Maybe a dumb question but would an easy bake oven be a good device or are
they not good at holding temp control?
I thought I had heard of a few folks using those for reflow jobs, etc.
Especially since there's not risk of using an oven you might want out of
later.
The more I think about it though,
On 3/10/23 13:32, mike via cctalk wrote:
> Chuck can you give a few details about 'baking' disks?
I can tell you how I do it--an "oven" held at 58C +/- 0.5C with good air
circulation. Mine is custom built, where the heat source is a 75W
incandescent lamp, low-speed fan and PID controller. I've h
On 3/10/23 13:22, Sellam Abraham via cctalk wrote:
>
> Just when you think you've heard of everything. How long have you been
> keeping this knowledge from us?
>
> https://www.amazon.com/Mystic-Moments-RMCYCL100-Cyclomethicone-Liquid/dp/B00I5HBBGW
>
> $15 for 125mL. Sounds like that would be
Chuck can you give a few details about 'baking' disks?
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From: Chuck Guzis via cctalk [mailto:cctalk@classiccmp.org]
Sent: Friday, March 10, 2023 03:12 PM
To: Sellam Abraham via cctalk
Cc: Chuck Guzis
Subject: [cctalk] Re: Why the F
On Fri, Mar 10, 2023 at 1:12 PM Chuck Guzis via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> On 3/10/23 12:50, Sellam Abraham via cctalk wrote:
>
> > Please explain, Chuck.
>
> Sure, bake the disks (I'm sure you know how to do this), then just
> before reading, coat the surface with a thin coat of cyc
On 3/10/23 12:50, Sellam Abraham via cctalk wrote:
> Please explain, Chuck.
Sure, bake the disks (I'm sure you know how to do this), then just
before reading, coat the surface with a thin coat of cyclomethicone (the
stuff has almost no surface tension, so a couple of drops works). It
lubricates
On Fri, Mar 10, 2023 at 10:58 AM Chuck Guzis via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> On 3/10/23 09:25, Christopher Zach via cctalk wrote:
> > Maybe. I've seen a lot of floppy rot on some of these rx50s. Black stuff
> transfers to the head then the head damages other floppies. Result is a
> me
On 3/10/23 09:25, Christopher Zach via cctalk wrote:
> Maybe. I've seen a lot of floppy rot on some of these rx50s. Black stuff
> transfers to the head then the head damages other floppies. Result is a mess
> and I have to check heads on all new disks.
>
> Kind of like the tk50 tapes
Cyclomethi
Maybe. I've seen a lot of floppy rot on some of these rx50s. Black stuff
transfers to the head then the head damages other floppies. Result is a mess
and I have to check heads on all new disks.
Kind of like the tk50 tapes
On March 10, 2023 11:52:29 AM EST, rescue via cctalk
wrote:
>
>If prope
On 3/10/2023 11:52 AM, rescue via cctalk wrote:
If properly care for and stored, I'd be willing to bet that the 5.25"
floppies will be working after the flash replacements suffer bit rot
and data loss from charge depletion though I might not be around
to see that be a big problem :-)
If properly care for and stored, I'd be willing to bet that the 5.25"
floppies will be working after the flash replacements suffer bit rot and
data loss from charge depletion though I might not be around to see
that be a big problem :-)
Don't toss your 5.25" floppies though :-) I'l
On 3/9/23 22:14, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:
Many folks have turned to emulators, abandoning the spinning rust
altogether.
Yup, my year-2000 pick and place machine had a 3.5" floppy
drive, but I had no confidence that any old disks would be
workable, and I had no other machines with drives
> On Mar 9, 2023, at 11:34 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk
> wrote:
>
>> On 3/9/23 18:40, Sellam Abraham via cctalk wrote:
>>> I wonder how much challenge would be involved in making artisan batches of
>>> 5.25" or 8" floppy disks using cobbled-together or homemade equipment?
>
> On Thu, 9 Mar 202
Floppydisk.com also sells 100 promotional disks (no working disks) for $12.
They also sell 5.25 nonworking ones with different colors that can be used for
projects. I think those would be nice for making art projects at schools,
mancaves, and home offices. Good coffee coasters like the old days
The mylar substrate would probably be the easiest. I don't know if
anyone's still making audio tape, but the coating equipment might be the
same. I don't know how to find the proper stuff for the goo, however.
ATR Magnetics (www.atrtape.com) and others still produce audio tape. They
have nor
Thats exactly the solution. Just keep a few floppies around so that you can
transfer a saved image back to floppy to be read by the machine that needs it.
Personally, there was so much media manufactured that I think the machines that
read the media will fail long before we run out of media.
W
Interesting article but when goteks are 30 a pop on ebay and work on something
as wonky as a professional 350, I think it's time to let 5.25 floppies go
I'll get a teac but mainly to convert all my pdp11 floppies to images.
Cz
On March 9, 2023 7:00:39 PM EST, Jim Brain via cctalk
wrote:
>htt
On 3/9/2023 10:34 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote:
I doubt that there is any market segment with deep pockets, with a
"need" other than nostalgia.
I've actually considered trying to research finding equipment to
manufacture such media, and/or recreating it. Everyone needs another
hobby, ri
On 3/9/23 18:40, Sellam Abraham via cctalk wrote:
I wonder how much challenge would be involved in making artisan batches of
5.25" or 8" floppy disks using cobbled-together or homemade equipment?
On Thu, 9 Mar 2023, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:
Many folks have turned to emulators, abandoning
On Thu, Mar 9, 2023 at 7:57 PM Fred Cisin via cctalk
wrote:
> On Thu, 9 Mar 2023, Sellam Abraham via cctalk wrote:
> > Jeri Ellsworth made integrated circuits in her garage.
> > I wonder how much challenge would be involved in making artisan batches
> of
> > 5.25" or 8" floppy disks using cobbled
On 3/9/23 18:40, Sellam Abraham via cctalk wrote:
> I wonder how much challenge would be involved in making artisan batches of
> 5.25" or 8" floppy disks using cobbled-together or homemade equipment?
Many folks have turned to emulators, abandoning the spinning rust
altogether.
The mylar substrat
On Thu, 9 Mar 2023, Sellam Abraham via cctalk wrote:
Jeri Ellsworth made integrated circuits in her garage.
I wonder how much challenge would be involved in making artisan batches of
5.25" or 8" floppy disks using cobbled-together or homemade equipment?
In "Secret Life of Machines", season 2, e
On Thu, 9 Mar 2023, Sellam Abraham via cctalk wrote:
Jeri Ellsworth made integrated circuits in her garage.
I wonder how much challenge would be involved in making artisan batches of
5.25" or 8" floppy disks using cobbled-together or homemade equipment?
Is there ANYTHING besides floppy disks th
On Thu, Mar 9, 2023 at 4:34 PM Chuck Guzis via cctalk
wrote:
> On 3/9/23 16:00, Jim Brain via cctalk wrote:
> > https://www.wired.com/story/why-the-floppy-disk-just-wont-die/
> >
> > Take what you want from the article, but I thought the end paragraph,
> > noting that Tom Persky of floppydisk.com
On 3/9/23 16:00, Jim Brain via cctalk wrote:
> https://www.wired.com/story/why-the-floppy-disk-just-wont-die/
>
> Take what you want from the article, but I thought the end paragraph,
> noting that Tom Persky of floppydisk.com is 73 and is only planning to
> handle things for 5 more years. After
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