xml and ColdFusion

2001-04-10 Thread Cedric Wooding
Hi all, I thought that you might be able to help me with an XML problem I'm having. Essentially I have an XML packet like the one below. article_objects thumbnail id = "32:4" height = "44" name = "my pic"test.jpg/thumbnail thumbnail id = "32:5" height = "45" name = "my poc"tost.jpg/thumbnail

Re: Use .jsp and not .cfm ..

2001-04-10 Thread Tom Horn
ColdFusion is a horrible name from marketing purposes. How many of you get confused with physicists? (Judith raises her hand. : ) ) Don't even get that far. I say "We're a ColdFusion programming company" Then I'd like to talk about "programming" as in "we can solve problems, we have

RE: Use .jsp and not .cfm ..

2001-04-10 Thread Christopher Olive, CIO
here but it also amuses me to convince my friends that i could power a small city by what i do for a living. they're SO gullible. :) chris olive, cio cresco technologies [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.crescotech.com -Original Message- From: Judith Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

For those of you without a CS Degree

2001-04-10 Thread Jeffry Houser
For those of you who are doing programming-type stuff without a CS degree. How did you learn programming logic? (Or did you?) I just can't imagine doing a good job without knowing what I know. I've seen so much bad code. To everyone else, please watch your message quoting. It's

RE: For those of you without a CS Degree

2001-04-10 Thread Philip Arnold - ASP
For those of you who are doing programming-type stuff without a CS degree. How did you learn programming logic? (Or did you?) I just can't imagine doing a good job without knowing what I know. I've seen so much bad code. I never did a degree - but since I grew up with computers, I

Re: For those of you without a CS Degree

2001-04-10 Thread Tom Horn
For those of you who are doing programming-type stuff without a CS degree. How did you learn programming logic? (Or did you?) You mean you can't learn logic, problem solving, project management outside of a CS course? ~~

RE: For those of you without a CS Degree

2001-04-10 Thread Raymond Camden
For those of you who are doing programming-type stuff without a CS degree. How did you learn programming logic? (Or did you?) You mean you can't learn logic, problem solving, project management outside of a CS course? I don't think he is saying you -cant-, he is saying -how- did

session.session_id

2001-04-10 Thread Kristin Aileen Motlagh
I originally wrote the chapter on the Application Framework which was correct for 4.01. This included a section on Locking. Scope was not available at the time, it was implemented due to requests by myself, Nate and various other people. When the chapter was revised (not by me - I had a baby to

RE: Counselors

2001-04-10 Thread Guy J. McDowell
Bad Counselors vs. No Counselors Well, my guidance counselor in high school killed himself by tying a block to his feet and jumping out of a canoe. Good thing I never took his advice ("Quit school and get a job pumping gas, all this higher education crap isn't worth it.") Then another guidance

RE: Counselors

2001-04-10 Thread Philip Arnold - ASP
I remember my Guidance Councellor telling me that I had no aptitude for what I wanted to do (at that time I wanted to be an Architect) and that I should change all of my chosen subjects... upon leaving school I went straight into sales, so he was probably a bit right g My Math teacher told me

Re: For those of you without a CS Degree

2001-04-10 Thread Judith Taylor
Computer sciences do not have a lock on teaching logic. In actuality, I believe that most Computer sciences are fairly latecomers as far as teaching logic is concerned. Philosophy immediately comes to mind in that respect. 'Programming logic' per se is simply the application of a logical

RE: For those of you without a CS Degree

2001-04-10 Thread John McCosker
My only regret is that when I started college, they were still using Modula2 as the language of choice. Right after I switched to English they started using C++. Never have any regrets... I studied Industrial Design for degree, and then did an Msc in computing and design. The course wanted a

RE: CF-Community-List V1 #193

2001-04-10 Thread Guy J. McDowell
-Original Message- From: CF-Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 7:33 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CF-Community-List V1 #193 CF-Community-List Tue, 10 Apr 2001 Volume 1 : Number 193 In this issue: Re: Women of

Re: For those of you without a CS Degree

2001-04-10 Thread Nick McClure
I started out teach myself before I even got take any CS classes. I used my math skills (see other thread) for my logic. I have always been able to understand logic. Then after a few CS classes in college I and few other math classes. I learned That I could pay to go to school or I could get

RE: For those of you without a CS Degree

2001-04-10 Thread John McCosker
Be my wife!!! -Original Message- From: Judith Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 10 April 2001 13:58 To: CF-Community Subject: Re: For those of you without a CS Degree Computer sciences do not have a lock on teaching logic. In actuality, I believe that most Computer sciences are

5.0 documentation(RE: session.session_id)

2001-04-10 Thread Kola Oyedeji
Anyone know if the (draft?) documentation is available for 5.0 yet? Kola -Original Message- From: Kristin Aileen Motlagh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 10 April 2001 13:53 To: CF-Community Subject: session.session_id I originally wrote the chapter on the Application Framework which

RE: For those of you without a CS Degree

2001-04-10 Thread Daye, Marianne
I have an Associates in Data Processing, which has been helpful, but I don't think you need a degree to follow written instructions. The degree helps you get your foot in the door and make more money. -Original Message- From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday,

RE: For those of you without a CS Degree

2001-04-10 Thread Paul Ihrig
How did you learn programming logic? (Or did you?) haha! Logic Shmogic. i use will sheer brute force for most of my apps. basic logic was learn from being raised in a strict military environment from my father, who i still resent for his ability to terrify with math his sense of logic. who

RE: ConFusion

2001-04-10 Thread Nick McClure
I have gone to the point where I say. "I am a database developer. I work integrate database systems with the web" then people say, "Oh, like frontpage" and the melee ensues. At 03:19 PM 4/10/2001 +0100, you wrote: I get met with blank stares just by saying I'm a web developer. So now I

RE: ConFusion

2001-04-10 Thread Philip Arnold - ASP
I have gone to the point where I say. "I am a database developer. I work integrate database systems with the web" then people say, "Oh, like frontpage" and the melee ensues. "Like with FrontPage, but with real software", but that's when you start to hear the whooshing noises as the

RE: ConFusion

2001-04-10 Thread Mark Mathis
I gave up a long time ago trying to explain what I do, so I just say that "I play with computers for a living" Mark Mathis TeraTech, Inc.Behind every successful cat 12221 Parklawn Dr., Suite 200 Rockville, MD 20852is an obedient owner. (301) 881-1440 [EMAIL

RE: ConFusion

2001-04-10 Thread Nick McClure
I get that from cousins sometimes. I ask how much they charge then I tell them hoe much I charge, and they stop talking. It is quite funny. At 10:45 AM 4/10/2001 -0400, you wrote: Had a similar conversation with my arrogant ass of a nephew. "What do you do?" "I'm a web application developer."

RE: ConFusion

2001-04-10 Thread Philip Arnold - ASP
I get that from cousins sometimes. I ask how much they charge then I tell them hoe much I charge, and they stop talking. It is quite funny. We actually did that to a company exhibiting in a local business fair - they said that they did websites and might be able to help us out (yeah, right)

Re: 5.0 documentation(RE: session.session_id)

2001-04-10 Thread Erki Esken
Anyone know if the (draft?) documentation is available for 5.0 yet? Don't think so. But probably will be in the RC (out in a few weeks). -erki- ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at

Re: ConFusion

2001-04-10 Thread Erki Esken
I've tried document.all.id.bgcolor, document.all[id].bgcolor, etc. document.all.id.style.bgcolor works i believe. -erki- ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm

javascript, DOM and td (was Re: ConFusion)

2001-04-10 Thread Todd Ashworth
That gave me "Undefined" . It turns out that this works though: event.srcElement.style.backgroundColor Todd Ashworth -- - Original Message - From: "Erki Esken" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "CF-Community" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 11:16 AM Subject: Re: ConFusion | I've

RE: ConFusion

2001-04-10 Thread Jim Nitterauer
And people wonder why there is a downturn in .COM stocks? Gee - could it be that turning a profit was overlooked? We get the same crap all the time from potential clients. They say that so and so can do it for x amount. I tell them fine - Let me get you their number. We charge a lot and make no

RE: ConFusion

2001-04-10 Thread Jennifer
At 03:19 PM 4/10/2001 +0100, you wrote: I get met with blank stares just by saying I'm a web developer. So now I say that I'm a computer programmer. Most people know what that is. Saying I use ColdFusion is always interesting. Some sample responses: "That doesn't work you know." "Oh

RE: Sniffing Email...

2001-04-10 Thread Kevin Gilchrist
Sounds like they attach the reader (java applet?) in the email itself to parse the content they create. Analogous to Flash perhaps? This way they don't have to detect what the client is, which would be next to impossible. HTH, Kevin ~~

Re: session.session_id

2001-04-10 Thread Michael Smith
Kristin Wow! Thanks for replying to this question in such detail. I didn't know so many famous CF authors were on this list! :-) I know the default timeout for client vars is usually set to be 10 days or something long but as I understand it they do exactly the same as session varialbes in

Re: CS vs BFA

2001-04-10 Thread Nick McClure
huket on fonix worct for me sorry I know it was bad but I had to. At 01:17 PM 4/10/2001 -0500, you wrote: And about grammar, I can't believe how many smart, talented people do not know the difference between possessive and plural (e.g. "I drank three cup's of coffee", "Change given for

Re: Sniffing Email...

2001-04-10 Thread Michael Smith
If you put a web bug in the HTML version then you can tell if they displayed the HTML. (A web bug is a 1 x 1 gif that will show up in their web log or if dynamically generated by CF could log to a database) - Michael Smith, TeraTech, Inc http://www.teratech.com/ Howie Hamlin wrote: I think

RE: Sniffing Email...

2001-04-10 Thread Braver, Ben
HOW?? -Original Message- From: Michael Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 12:24 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Sniffing Email... If you put a web bug in the HTML version then you can tell if they displayed the HTML. (A web bug is a 1 x 1 gif that will

Re: Sniffing Email...

2001-04-10 Thread Howie Hamlin
True - but you would need to wait for the client to open the mail. Also, the client needs to be connected to the net when they open such a mail (you can download mail from a server and then read off-line at which point the little web bugaboo would not be affective... Regards, Howie -

RE: Sniffing Email... (example code)

2001-04-10 Thread ron
Oh WOW. *** Dancing around room with absolute glee *** If you were here, I'd kiss your feet! If I ever get to meet you, I'll, I'll, go on, continue... I'll kiss your feet! Oh. Well, okay. How come this isn't documented anywhere? Seems like something that should have come up

Re: Sniffing Email...

2001-04-10 Thread Howie Hamlin
The bugaboo is simply an image link something like: img height=1 width=1 src="sometrackingpage?trackingnum=somenumber" Then, when the mail is read, the tracking page is called and you have a var which tells you who read the mail. HTH, Howie Hamlin - inFusion Project Manager On-Line Data

eBusinessVisions

2001-04-10 Thread Jeffry Houser
Has anyone dealt with eBusinessVisions software? Has any dealt with ColdFusion and eBusinessVisions software? http://www.pastelusa.com (the Business Visions web site) http://www.businessvision.com/prod_e_bv_main.htm It seems like a standard 'cookie cutter' software package.

RE: Sniffing Email... (addition to example code)

2001-04-10 Thread ron
Erika, One last thing you should consider. It's pretty common practice to put a special comment at the top of the HTML message content, so that the few throwbacks using PINE or other stone-age email client (j/k, no hatemail from *nix purists please) that doesn't understand multipart MIME won't

RE: session.session_id

2001-04-10 Thread Bob Silverberg
Hooray, another interesting thread on CF best practices! I've spent a lot of time agonizing over the client vs. session variables debate (well, not really agonizing, more like thinking about it while I'm in the shower), and here are my thoughts. Unless I need the variables to persist from

Re: Sniffing Email... (example code)

2001-04-10 Thread Adrian Cooper
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 8:46 PM snipped all sorts of shenannigans between Erica and Ron g. My thoughts exactly, when we were trying to figure it out. The finally I looked at the raw text of one of Amazon's (great) html

RE: For those of you without a CS Degree

2001-04-10 Thread Angel Stewart
Well...my first introduction to computers was...guess... come on..guess... . Aww alright I'll tell ya :) Computer GAMES! :) Yup. Shamus, DoubleDragon, Jet...those were what I used the old ITT Xtra XP for:) That was our first computer..huge 5 1/4" floppies that went bad very quickly in our

RE: For those of you without a CS Degree

2001-04-10 Thread Angel Stewart
YEE!!! A Kindred spirit!!! *snicker* ;-) -Gel -Original Message- From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Well...my first introduction to computers was...guess... come on..guess... . Aww alright I'll tell ya :) Computer GAMES! :) Yup. Heh, I only learned

RE: For those of you without a CS Degree

2001-04-10 Thread Kevin Gilchrist
Games (and configuring Memory managers just to get 'em running, remember QEMM?) was what got me into computers too. Although I never got around to programming until my CS degree in Uni. ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the

Re: anyone play WFF n Proof?

2001-04-10 Thread Marc Garrett
City champs -- well done Russel. I haven't played OnSets, but I saw a copy on ebay the other day and plan to pick it up. Regards, Marc Garrett - Original Message - From: "Russel Madere" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "CF-Community" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 2:07 PM Subject:

RE: For those of you without a CS Degree

2001-04-10 Thread Jennifer
At 06:12 PM 4/10/2001 -0300, you wrote: *squeezes eyes shut* *little bulb lights up over head* I SENSE A FEATURE ARTICLE HERE!! :) *hastily begins scribbling notes* -Gel www.carigamer.com When Your Kids Turn On To Games, They Could Turn On To A Career In High Tech! Just remember that some

Re: For those of you without a CS Degree

2001-04-10 Thread Jon Hall
Programmed the hell out of that little Apple II+ ;-) Even had one of those modems where you put the receiver on the modem... Dont get me started on degrees though. I could write 20 pages of rant... Let me just say, I dropped out of 9th grade while trying to pass for the second time. The way

Re: Sniffing Email... (example code)

2001-04-10 Thread Michael Smith
BTW There is a version up at ColdCuts http://www.teratech.com/ColdCuts/cutdetail.cfm?cutid=169 from Matt Liota too. :-) I have an article on web bugs and email sniffing that I wrote with Eron Cohen that is coming out in CFDJ in a few months. So if any one else has some tips on web bugs let

Re: session.session_id

2001-04-10 Thread Michael Smith
On a high volume site you might get better performance from session rather than client variables, but on most CF sites the important things are how fast it can be coded and if the site is stable. A lot of people's code I have seen does not lock session variables correctly. And this is the cause