RE: Greenspan: Tax cut needs to be big

2001-09-26 Thread howard
Funny how Greenspan was a devil driving the economy to ruin, according to GOP leaders, just a couple of days ago. Also funny how only the right-wing-biased Fox news re-wrote this story with this spin (keeping the AP by-line, of course), while the actual AP story played down the tax cut and said G

Re: Check out what Gartner is recommending. Drop IIS!

2001-09-26 Thread Nick Texidor
But your assumption is that no one else could have done it. I disagree. These other companies that you refer too, COULD have done it. We're talking about 16 years ago... and neither you nor I could have predicted how it would have panned out without MS. I believe that we would still be

Re: Check out what Gartner is recommending. Drop IIS!

2001-09-26 Thread Nick McClure
The other companies were run by Technical people, MS was being run by business people who paid well(not just tech) and made deals to get themselves ahead. You can call it playing dirty, I call it business. Sure at some point somebody else would have finally gotten it going. But at the time the

Re: Check out what Gartner is recommending. Drop IIS!

2001-09-26 Thread Nick Texidor
Then another company would have come along and done the same thing. You surely cannot all assume that if Microsoft didn't exist, then we wouldn't have moved anywhere?? Of course we would all the same software, more or less, would have been developed... it would have taken another company.

Frontpage Licensing... [resend]

2001-09-26 Thread Nick Texidor
[hopefully you'll get it all this time!] Now I'm not a Frontpage user... but I thought this was interesting as there had been some licensing issues on the lists of late Some of the clauses in software licenses seems to be verging on the ridiculous The license of Frontpage 2002 contain

Re: List Dead?

2001-09-26 Thread Stephenie Hamilton
what? new-comer?? umm, I guessed we missed him somehow ~~ Hi Randy ~~ how ya doing? muffin? coffee? cappucino? s, where ya from? ~~ Stephenie - Original Message - From: Erika L. Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001

RE: List Dead?

2001-09-26 Thread Erika L. Walker
>>--| -Original Message- >>--| From: Erika L. Walker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >>--| >>--| Hey! Who's this Andy guy? >>--| OOOPS! I mean Andy with an R Sorry Randy... :) ~~ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http:

RE: List Dead?

2001-09-26 Thread Erika L. Walker
Hey! Who's this Andy guy? A new community member? ! Well did someone offer the poor fella a muffin? Where's Gel? Why wasn't he on top of this? Steph? What's going on here? What happened to the welcome wagon? * Drumroll for Andy's specatacular entrance * Hi Andy! Welcome to the wacky

RE: Greenspan: Tax cut needs to be big

2001-09-26 Thread Gary P. McNeel, Jr.
This is all sort of funny in a way. We now have a home defense cabinet post. So much for "smaller government" rhetoric from the right. I wonder what the budget will be and of course there will have to be a bureaucracy built around it. Where will that money come from? What are the FBI and CIA for

RE: Check out what Gartner is recommending. Drop IIS!

2001-09-26 Thread Gary P. McNeel, Jr.
I would have had to go to college (I was a History major) to make a third of what I make now. We would all be on Mac's and Unix boxes. There would be almost no clones (legal). Mac OS would still be nearly impossible to do anything with. Unix would be a pain to support at the end user level (still

Re: keep on quitting smoking

2001-09-26 Thread corrigan
You can do the Uncle Buck 5 year plan. Cigarettes for one year, cigars for another year, then onto chew, then snuff and then finally the gum for a year!! I smoked for 7 years. Quit after I got engaged and that was over 5 years ago. I went to one of those cessation classes and learned a few int

RE: keep on quitting smoking

2001-09-26 Thread Gary P. McNeel, Jr.
My mother smoked for 25 years, tried everything to quit, finally just said, "This is killing me, I smell bad, food tastes crappy, etc." and quit cold turkey. That was 10 years ago. My dad wouldn't quit, sort of a denial thing. You know, he would say, "our family all live long, into their 90s." Tha

Re: Redneck and Hippie joke

2001-09-26 Thread corrigan
we prefer catholes :) - Original Message - From: "Russel Madere" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 10:44 AM Subject: RE: Redneck and Hippie joke > At Ft Sill, the joke is Army and Marine artillerymen. Of course we Army > redl

RE: List Dead?

2001-09-26 Thread Larry Lyons
Rule of thumb, after a few months of not looking at your own code its like looking at someone else's. If its been more than a few months its like looking at a foreign language. Which explains why when I review older code the first thing I say is "Why the hell did I do it this way?" regards, lar

RE: List Dead?

2001-09-26 Thread Russel Madere
I'm sorry, I was rewriting code I originally wrote 18 months ago and it caused me to go into a fit where I sat and contemplated my navel instead of having a productive lunch of posting to the CF lists ;) Try Us! Russel > -Original Message- > From: Neil Clark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

Re: Greenspan: Tax cut needs to be big

2001-09-26 Thread Michael Ross
Please do a laugh now or later, he doesn't say we need more he says if there is one it needs to be x amount to make a difference. what are we going to pay this war with, should we ask the people to send the checks back.. Isn't lying a prereq. for being a politician anyways? >>> [EMAIL PR

RE: Greenspan: Tax cut needs to be big

2001-09-26 Thread Mark Stewart
And that's exactly what I'm doing. I was planning on buying this, that and the other thing and now I'm moving more into a save and pay down debt mode. I don't have a ton of debt, but I would rather eliminate my debt now just in case I would, God forbid, lose my job or something. Mark -Orig

Re: Greenspan: Tax cut needs to be big

2001-09-26 Thread J. Kris Baca
Historically, tax cuts for a population with a large debt load does not significantly increase spending which was the major goal of the Bush tax cut. This is because in a recession, or near recession, consumers tend to pay bills or invest rather than buy goods and/or services. Larry Lyons wrote:

RE: Greenspan: Tax cut needs to be big

2001-09-26 Thread Larry Lyons
I said nothing of Grreenspan, rather I was referring to the flawed logic that Lee used, Greenspan says thus, ergo the Democrat are lying. It simply doesn't follow. One does not mean the other. Is a very simple concept no? MOreover I never implied that I was making any sort of statement regarding

Re: Greenspan: Tax cut needs to be big

2001-09-26 Thread J. Kris Baca
Lee, Richard Feynman, considered by many to be the only person who understood quantum mechanics, once said that anybody who claims to understand quantum mechanics doesn't. And so it is true with economics. Implicit in your email is the fact that you do understand economics and so by voicing you

RE: Greenspan: Tax cut needs to be big

2001-09-26 Thread Larry Lyons
And the republican party has not been? I still cannot see the merits of plunging the country into massive debt based on an ideological point. We almost elmininated the crushing debtload that Ronnie Raygun and Bush Senior saddled us with, when the junior bush decides to wipe out any gains. That is

The Onion

2001-09-26 Thread Lee
This one is the best. President Urges Calm, Restraint Among Nation's Ballad Singers WASHINGTON, DC— In the wake of the recent national tragedy, President Bush is urging Mariah Carey, Michael Jackson, and other singers to resist the urge to record mawkish, insipid all-st

Re: Greenspan: Tax cut needs to be big

2001-09-26 Thread Lee
On Wednesday, September 26, 2001 1:33 PM, Larry Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Since when does an economist's opinion mean that the democrats are lying? >Rather than logically presenting the case, you ask the reader for a leap of >faith Greenspan blabs something, so you say the democrats are

RE: Greenspan: Tax cut needs to be big

2001-09-26 Thread Larry Lyons
Since when does an economist's opinion mean that the democrats are lying? Rather than logically presenting the case, you ask the reader for a leap of faith Greenspan blabs something, so you say the democrats are lying? How does one get from one conclusion (greenspan testifying before congress) to

Re: Greenspan: Tax cut needs to be big

2001-09-26 Thread Howie Hamlin
That's right - Republicans don't lie. Read my lips... - Original Message - From: "Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 2:28 PM Subject: Greenspan: Tax cut needs to be big > http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,35106,00.ht

Greenspan: Tax cut needs to be big

2001-09-26 Thread Lee
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,35106,00.html About a month ago the democrats where demanding that the existing tax cut be scaled back because it was economically dangerous. Now the biggest economics guru in the land is saying we need more. The fact is we needed more from the get go. The

RE: keep on quitting smoking

2001-09-26 Thread Greenwood, Erin E.
Oh yes, it does. When I think about all of that money : { And it isn't so hot for your gums to be chomping away all day, every day. -Original Message- From: Stephenie Hamilton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 2:24 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: keep

Re: keep on quitting smoking

2001-09-26 Thread Stephenie Hamilton
yeah, although it is not bad on your lungsyou still have the nicotene addiction, and it cost way more than cigarettes! ~~ Stephenie Hamilton Macromedia Certified ColdFusion Professional http://coldfusionwebs.com - Original Message - From: Greenwood, Erin E. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: CF

Re: The Onion weighs in on Terrorism

2001-09-26 Thread Howie Hamlin
I usually enjoy the brand of humor on theonion but this stuff is way over the line. It is in extremely poor taste and I think most Americans would be offended. Just my 2 cents... Howie - Original Message - From: "Cameron Childress" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTEC

Re: keep on quitting smoking

2001-09-26 Thread Fluffy Bananachunks
Smoked for 6 years. Quit for two. Got back into it for another 2 years, and then quit again back in April. Both times cold turkey. My gf quit in May, cold turkey as well, after 6 years. When I smoked, I usually smoked anywhere from 1 to 4 times an hour - 1 per at work, 4 per on my own tim

RE: keep on quitting smoking

2001-09-26 Thread Greenwood, Erin E.
Do not get addicted to Nicorette! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 1:56 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: keep on quitting smoking Paul, Quitting smoking is one of the most difficult things I've ever done. I quit

RE: keep on quitting smoking

2001-09-26 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
Paul, Quitting smoking is one of the most difficult things I've ever done. I quit on March and still feel the cravings. You have one thing that I did not, though: you want to quit. I used Zyban (Wellbutrin), which is an antidepressant that can be prescribed by your doctor. It's a weird drug b

RE: keep on quitting smoking

2001-09-26 Thread Larry Lyons
Paul, I quit 10 years ago. Consider one thing about quitting, getting through the first month is the biggest part of the battle. Once through that then its considerably easier. larry > -Original Message- > From: Paul Ihrig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 200

keep on quitting smoking

2001-09-26 Thread Paul Ihrig
this thoroughly sucks. i have been smoking since i was 11. since i returned from the honey moon i am determined to quite. but it does not seem to be taking. have quite about 4 times in the last week! can make it 2 + days. been trying the gum, nicoderm & combinations of both. then just when i th

RE: The Onion weighs in on Terrorism

2001-09-26 Thread Greenwood, Erin E.
That explains why my browser kept freezing... I thought it was funny and just this side from bad taste. Maybe I'm just too callous. I thought they had the best tag line or whatever you call that stupid thing all the networks have been doing, like "America Under Siege" and "America Reunited." 3

The Onion weighs in on Terrorism

2001-09-26 Thread Cameron Childress
Good taste, bad taste, take it or leave it... The Onion has weighed in on the Terrorist attacks... Articles include: "Hijackers Surprised To Find Selves In Hell" and "Point CounterPoint - 'We Must Retaliate With Blind Rage' vs. 'We Must Retaliate With Measured, Focused Rage'" http://www.theonio

Thanks:

2001-09-26 Thread Adkins, Randy
Thanks to all who replied about PWS & W2K. As well as to the list dead topic. Seems as if it may have been hung up at our mail doorway knocking to get in but just now has the flood gates been opened. Poured in 26 messages from CF-Community and about 75 for CF-Talk. I should have known to check

Wake up and Talk

2001-09-26 Thread Mike Townend
Don't know if anyone is interested but I found this site to encourage a community spirit after the horrific New York incident Http://www.wakeupandtalk.com Mike ~~ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more

Re: Updating a multiple select box dynamically. question?

2001-09-26 Thread Joseph Thompson
The principal should be the same... (too big to paste here) http://u8ntcn0.com/scrap/mod.cfm ~~ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cf

RE: List Dead?

2001-09-26 Thread Mark Smyth
i was waiting for that :) -Original Message- From: Greenwood, Erin E. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 26 September 2001 16:41 To: CF-Community Subject: RE: List Dead? No, there certainly isn't. : ) -Original Message- From: Mark Smyth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday

RE: Redneck and Hippie joke

2001-09-26 Thread Russel Madere
At Ft Sill, the joke is Army and Marine artillerymen. Of course we Army redlegs don't pee on our hands. :) Try Us! Russel > -Original Message- > From: Braver, Ben [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 10:16 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Redneck and Hippie

Re: Re[2]: Frontpage Licensing... (cutting off lines in posts)

2001-09-26 Thread Fluffy Bananachunks
On Wednesday 26 September 2001 11:33 am, you wrote: > Hello Fluffy, > > possibly a sure sign You talk to much? /me wonders if that's why he's been mysteriously getting 'dropped' from the chan - always just a few lines from finishing his thoughts... ;P banana[chu/two/too] - ~~

RE: List Dead?

2001-09-26 Thread Greenwood, Erin E.
No, there certainly isn't. : ) -Original Message- From: Mark Smyth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 11:25 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: List Dead? thats a good one, Lunch... complemPLATE well they say theres nothing like British humour... -Origin

RE: List Dead?

2001-09-26 Thread Mark Smyth
thats a good one, Lunch... complemPLATE well they say theres nothing like British humour... -Original Message- From: Greenwood, Erin E. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 26 September 2001 16:15 To: CF-Community Subject: RE: List Dead? It's not dead, it's just resting. And I'm contempla

Re[2]: Frontpage Licensing... (cutting off lines in posts)

2001-09-26 Thread Critter
Hello Fluffy, possibly a sure sign You talk to much? -- Critter, MMCP Certified ColdFusion Developer Crit[s2k] - --- Wednesday, September 26, 2001, 11:18:12 AM, you wrote: FB> On Wednesday 26 September 2001 05:29 am, you wrote: >> Now I'm not a Front

Re: Frontpage Licensing... (cutting off lines in posts)

2001-09-26 Thread Michael Dinowitz
Only for some people. I'm still looking into why. > On Wednesday 26 September 2001 05:29 am, you wrote: > > Now I'm not a Frontpage user... but I thought this was interesting as there > > had been some licensing issues on the lists of late > > > > Some of the clauses in software licenses see

RE: Frontpage Licensing... (cutting off lines in posts)

2001-09-26 Thread Mark Stewart
That has happened to me a couple of times. When I post now, I make sure to hit return a few times before I send... ;-) -Original Message- From: Fluffy Bananachunks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 11:18 AM To: CF-C

Redneck and Hippie joke

2001-09-26 Thread Braver, Ben
So a redneck and a hippie are at adjacent urinals. The redneck finishes, and starts to walk out. The hippie says "where I come from, we wash our hands after we pee". The redneck says "where I come from, we don't pee on our hands". -Ben ~~ Get the ma

RE: List Dead?

2001-09-26 Thread Greenwood, Erin E.
It's not dead, it's just resting. And I'm contemplating lunch. -Original Message- From: Neil Clark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 11:06 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: List Dead? No people are just waiting for more political nonsense to rant on about.

Re: Frontpage Licensing... (cutting off lines in posts)

2001-09-26 Thread Fluffy Bananachunks
On Wednesday 26 September 2001 05:29 am, you wrote: > Now I'm not a Frontpage user... but I thought this was interesting as there > had been some licensing issues on the lists of late > > Some of the clauses in software licenses seems to be verging on the > ridiculous > > The license of Fr

RE: List Dead?

2001-09-26 Thread Neil Clark
No people are just waiting for more political nonsense to rant on about. ~~ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-community@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoff

RE: List Dead?

2001-09-26 Thread William Swain
nope...quite quiet but I have been getting some messages today. -Original Message- From: Adkins, Randy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 26 September 2001 15:40 To: CF-Community Subject: List Dead? Is this dying out again? Not seen a post for sometime... ~~~

Frontpage Licensing...

2001-09-26 Thread Nick Texidor
Now I'm not a Frontpage user... but I thought this was interesting as there had been some licensing issues on the lists of late Some of the clauses in software licenses seems to be verging on the ridiculous The license of Frontpage 2002 contains following clause: "You may not use the

FW: Updating a multiple select box dynamically. question?

2001-09-26 Thread Paul Ihrig
i know this is OT here, but if you can see why i cant get a dynamic list box to have pre-selected more then one selection i would appreciate it. this is for a update. works great if there was only one original selection. Thanks a bunch. brain dead. -paul Hello all. i have a update page tha

RE: List Dead?

2001-09-26 Thread Mark Smyth
no, we were just building up your dramatic entrance :) Mark -Original Message- From: Adkins, Randy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 26 September 2001 15:40 To: CF-Community Subject: List Dead? Is this dying out again? Not seen a post for sometime... ~~

RE: Check out what Gartner is recommending. Drop IIS!

2001-09-26 Thread Mark Stewart
I would be doing the Full Monty somewhere... To pay for school of course. :-) -Original Message- From: Rick Eidson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 9:27 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Check out what Gartner is recommending. Drop IIS! Lets speculate what w

List Dead?

2001-09-26 Thread Adkins, Randy
Is this dying out again? Not seen a post for sometime... ~~ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-community@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.

RE: PWS & W2k

2001-09-26 Thread Neil Clark
he did say he had Win2K ~~ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-community@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists

RE: PWS & W2k

2001-09-26 Thread Neil Clark
Yep, it will be on the disk for Win 2K Pro. Goto Start | Control Panel | Add Remove Programs | and Add Remove Windows Components You can actually install IIS and not PWS with Win2K as it is effectively a hyped up Windows NT. HTH Neil ~~ Get th

RE: Check out what Gartner is recommending. Drop IIS!

2001-09-26 Thread Larry Lyons
An experimental psych prof somewhere out on the west coast making about half what I'm getting now, and working twice as hard. larry -- Larry C. Lyons ColdFusion/Web Developer EBStor.com 8870 Rixlew Lane, Suite 204 Manassas, Virginia 20109-3795 tel: (703) 393-7930 fax: (703) 393-2659 Web: h

RE: Check out what Gartner is recommending. Drop IIS!

2001-09-26 Thread William Swain
I'd be at home with my feet up!! -Original Message- From: Nick McClure [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 26 September 2001 14:43 To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Check out what Gartner is recommending. Drop IIS! I'd still be in school. At 08:27 AM 9/26/2001 -0500, you wrote: >Lets speculat

RE: Check out what Gartner is recommending. Drop IIS!

2001-09-26 Thread Nick McClure
I'd still be in school. At 08:27 AM 9/26/2001 -0500, you wrote: >Lets speculate what we would be doing and with what tools if we completely >removed Microsoft from the picture. > > > > >Rick > >-Original Message- >From: Paris Lundis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Tuesday, September 25,

RE: Check out what Gartner is recommending. Drop IIS!

2001-09-26 Thread Rick Eidson
Lets speculate what we would be doing and with what tools if we completely removed Microsoft from the picture. Rick -Original Message- From: Paris Lundis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 11:34 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Check out what Gartner is recom

RE: PWS & W2k

2001-09-26 Thread Russel Madere
To run an MS web server on Win 2K, you HAVE to use IIS 5. PWS will not run, or will not run well, on Win 2K. Try Us! Russel > -Original Message- > From: Mark Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 7:56 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: PWS & W2k > >

RE: PWS & W2k

2001-09-26 Thread Larry Lyons
Randy, A limited version of IIS 5 is on W2k. much better than PWS. Go into the windows setup and select add windows components. Its an easy install. Fair warning though, make sure you have all the most recent patches installed. larry -- Larry C. Lyons ColdFusion/Web Developer EBStor.com 8870 Rix

RE: PWS & W2k

2001-09-26 Thread Mark Smyth
IIS comes with W2K server -Original Message- From: Mark Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 26 September 2001 13:56 To: CF-Community Subject: RE: PWS & W2k Um, doesn't IIS come with 2k? You just have to install it from the disk. Unless, of course, you just REALLY want pws. -Or

RE: PWS & W2k

2001-09-26 Thread Nick McClure
For win2k Pro it is still considered pws. It is not full featured, For instance you can only have one Virtual Host on it. At 08:56 AM 9/26/2001 -0400, you wrote: >Um, doesn't IIS come with 2k? You just have to install it from the disk. >Unless, of course, you just REALLY want pws. > >-Origin

RE: PWS & W2k

2001-09-26 Thread Mark Stewart
Um, doesn't IIS come with 2k? You just have to install it from the disk. Unless, of course, you just REALLY want pws. -Original Message- From: William Swain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 8:01 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: PWS & W2k Yes, as far as I kn

RE: PWS & W2k

2001-09-26 Thread William Swain
Yes, as far as I know it does. It should be on the w2k disk but I don't think it's installed by default. You will have to install it off the disk yourself HTH Will -Original Message- From: Adkins, Randy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 26 September 2001 12:51 To: CF-Community Subject:

PWS & W2k

2001-09-26 Thread Adkins, Randy
Does anyone know if PWS can run under Windows 2000? And if so, where can I get Personal Web Server? The one I have is for Windows 95 and during the setup for Windows 2000 it states it will only work for Windows 95 but I know it works in 98, just not Windows 2000. I have Windows 2000 Professiona

RE: SQL Server help

2001-09-26 Thread Neil Clark
Not really sure what you mean here? Are you saying that you cannot "create" a DB or that you cannot get a DB to be recognised via ODBC? Basically it is the same as setting up a CF Datasource except that for login you use "sa" (standard SQL7 Login - SQL2000 usually asks you to change it.) To do