RE: Contractors

2002-09-06 Thread Ben Doom
: Thanks again Douglas. Going back to my original post, is it : common to bill for time spent putting a bid together for the company? Generally, we don't bill for putting together a bid. I mean, if they reject the bid (and thus have no contract with you) how would you get them to pay? Also, our

Interesting and sad

2002-09-06 Thread Todd
A Muslim teen's view of the events surrounding last September. http://www.time.com/time/covers/1101020909/akid.html __ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hos

RE: Contractors

2002-09-06 Thread Kevin Graeme
It's up to you, but most agencies I know will try to recoup all the time they possibly can. If they get the bid, then they slide the bid costs in wherever they can. But if they don't get the bid, it's pretty hard to send a bill. Kevin Graeme > -Original Message- > From: J S [mailto:[EMA

Re: Contractors

2002-09-06 Thread Douglas Brown
Of course...just add it to the overall cost of the project. There is always cost involved in getting requirements and putting together a wireframe for the project. I would never do it for free. I also charge for time spent driving to and from the clients site. Douglas Brown Email: [EMAIL PROTE

Re: Contractors

2002-09-06 Thread J S
Thanks again Douglas. Going back to my original post, is it common to bill for time spent putting a bid together for the company? JS Douglas Brown wrote:Well basically you just want something that shows the scope of the project and let it be known that any additions to the current scope will

RE: WOO HOO

2002-09-06 Thread Kevin Graeme
So how much bandwidth does a game server use? I've been toying with the idea of setting one up. I assume they run co-lo? Kevin Graeme > -Original Message- > From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 10:58 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: WOO HOO

Re: Contractors

2002-09-06 Thread Douglas Brown
Well basically you just want something that shows the scope of the project and let it be known that any additions to the current scope will be billed at X amount of dollars. There is so many times a client will add something new to the scope after you have already placed the bid and if nothing is

Re: Contractors

2002-09-06 Thread J S
Thanks for the reply. What do you mean by 'cover your ass'? What do I need to watch out for and besides the things you mentioned below, how can I make sure I have a good contract? I don't have the time and money to have a lawyer draw something up right now are there other options? Thanks, JS

Re: Friday Night (was RE: WOO HOO)

2002-09-06 Thread Critter
oi Erika!! DrunkRika Friday, September 6, 2002, 4:52:08 PM, you wrote: ELWA> Jochem! ELWA> It's Friday night ... Shouldn't you be out partying??!! ;) ELWA> We're home watching ID4 -- again, just for the hell of it. Well, I'm ELWA> pecking away on the la

Re: Apple going the x86 way?

2002-09-06 Thread Jon Hall
Yeah this rumor has been floating around for a little while. Everyone is wondering if they will go with AMD or Intel, and there has been a lot of speculation back and forth. The one thing that strongly hints them going with AMD is that they are already a part of the AMD founded Hypertransport cons

Re: Contractors

2002-09-06 Thread Douglas Brown
A couple of things. 1. Have a good contract for yourself before you go into this. Cover your A%^ 2. You should charge more than what you would expect as a salaried employee, due to a higher tax bracket. I would say at least $40.00 per hour. 3. Break the application into several parts and base you

Contractors

2002-09-06 Thread J S
I am doing some contracting work for a small company that has not used contractors before. Since I haven't done contract work before myself I have a lot of questions. I'll start with this one for now, I was asked to give them a quote for a web site that they will give to their client. The j

Re: L'Shanah Tovah

2002-09-06 Thread Michael Dinowitz
Ditto. :) Last post from me for this year. > May you all be inscribed in the Book of Life for a good > new year. > > Fondly, > > -Ben Braver > > __ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http

RE: Screw work today.

2002-09-06 Thread Stephenie Hamilton
Yeah, something like that ~~ Stephenie > |-Original Message- > |From: Smith, Matthew P -CONT(DYN) > |[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > |Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 2:36 PM > |To: CF-Community > |Subject: RE: Screw work today. > | > | > |michael, marshall, in the end does it really

Friday Night (was RE: WOO HOO)

2002-09-06 Thread Erika L. Walker-Arnold
Jochem! It's Friday night ... Shouldn't you be out partying??!! ;) We're home watching ID4 -- again, just for the hell of it. Well, I'm pecking away on the laptop whil Phil watches and I occasionally look up and pay attention. Erika >>| -Or

Drive-by spam hits wireless LANs - Tech News - CNET.com

2002-09-06 Thread Larry Lyons
Personally I think that at least the drive-by shootings were less intrusive. larry http://news.com.com/2100-1033-956911.html?tag=dd.ne.dht.nl-sty.0 <> __ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com

Re: WOO HOO

2002-09-06 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Kevin Graeme wrote: >>One of these days soon, the bottom will drop out of the broadband market >>.. And it'll be as easy to get as a quart of milk. > > > I wish. Unfortunately, the trends in dial up don't seem to support that > wish. Prices in dial up access have been gradually rising over the p

RE: U.S., UK launch major Iraq airstrikes

2002-09-06 Thread Paul Ihrig
no doubt.. if our troops are fired upon.. by all means. raise hell on earth.. no biggy.. that's plain & simple. but when some one keeps poking you in the chest saying flinch, & i will hit you. that's the game... sooner or latter you will flinch & instinctively hit. because you know you will get

RE: U.S., UK launch major Iraq airstrikes

2002-09-06 Thread Nick McClure
They guy violated UN resolutions that his country agreed too. If he didn't agree to them the gulf war wouldn't have ended the way it did. You are right about everything you say, but we made an agreement to patrol those zones. He agreed to let us patrol them. If he fires at our planes or planes sh

RE: U.S., UK launch major Iraq airstrikes

2002-09-06 Thread Timothy Heald
Paul, I was pretty much in agreement with you until you said: >>Nation of Palestine There is not now, nor has there ever been such a thing man. Sorry to burst your bubble but that's a simple fact. There have been many different nations in that area. Palestine is not one of the

Re: Screw work today.

2002-09-06 Thread Candace Cottrell
That's one of my favortie movies of all time. I go around here and say "So if you could come in on Suuunnnday that would be great" Of course I can still listen to my radio at a reasonable volume ;) Candace K. Cottrell, Web Developer The Children's Medical Center One Children's Plaza Dayton,

RE: U.S., UK launch major Iraq airstrikes

2002-09-06 Thread Kevin Gilchrist
>What then is the need for a criminal court system? When you commit war >crimes you are committing a mass violation of individual human rights aren't >you? Why do they send peace keepers to nations in civil war? Isn't that >basically an issue which relates to individual rights? Sure but these

RE: U.S., UK launch major Iraq airstrikes

2002-09-06 Thread Timothy Heald
Individual rights are not a global issues, and the UN does not deal with them? What then is the need for a criminal court system? When you commit war crimes you are committing a mass violation of individual human rights aren't you? Why do they send peace keepers to nations in civil war? Isn't

RE: U.S., UK launch major Iraq airstrikes

2002-09-06 Thread Paul Ihrig
that's what i am saying i don't have any elegancies to the UN or to our current elected officials. i believe in the ideals that the U.S. was founded upon. but if for one reason or another we can not live up to those beliefs i may move else where & peruse another trade. perhaps as a baker in Bel

Re: U.S., UK launch major Iraq airstrikes

2002-09-06 Thread Hatton Humphrey
That oh-so-lovely International Criminal Court is recognized by over 100 member states according to the website. Hatton Timothy Heald wrote: >Legally recognized judicial system by whom? > >Tim > > >>The UN does have a a legally recognized judicial system that is in >>charge of trials such a

RE: U.S., UK launch major Iraq airstrikes

2002-09-06 Thread Kevin Gilchrist
Something to help put UNC creation into context is that it was created to succeed where the League of Nations failed before it. The LON was created so that wars like WW1 would never happen again. With that failure it would be reasonable to see why folks thought an organization like the UN needs

Re: U.S., UK launch major Iraq airstrikes

2002-09-06 Thread Beth F
> I don't think I will ever understand those people who think that one > government can meet the needs and desires of all the people on this planet. > I mean our federal government makes such a mess out of it all the time. Why > should I trust a government that is even further removed from my cont

Re: U.S., UK launch major Iraq airstrikes

2002-09-06 Thread Hatton Humphrey
Go to http://www.un.org/geninfo/ir/ch1/ch1.htm and click on "What's the United Nations?" Hatton Beth F wrote: >>the un is NOT a world police force. >> >> > > >So what IS the UN? > >I think its intended to be a world police force, or at least a world law >making body. > > _

RE: U.S., UK launch major Iraq airstrikes

2002-09-06 Thread Timothy Heald
Legally recognized judicial system by whom? Tim > -Original Message- > From: Hatton Humphrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 3:32 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: U.S., UK launch major Iraq airstrikes > > > Paul, > > First of all, which message are yo

RE: U.S., UK launch major Iraq airstrikes

2002-09-06 Thread Timothy Heald
See that was not the original intent of the UN. Originally it was supposed to be a means by which States could communicate, and in rare cases bring so called rouge states back into the fold. Diplomacy over war. Not world government. Now that was the original intent as it was released to the pu

Re: U.S., UK launch major Iraq airstrikes

2002-09-06 Thread Hatton Humphrey
Paul, First of all, which message are you replying to? I understand the need to remove excess quoted lines to reduce the scrollage for the sake of the archives, but it's hard to make a reply when I don't know what you're replying to. Other than that... >Iraq is a sovereign nation. >they hav

Re: Screw work today.

2002-09-06 Thread Bill Wheatley
i hate that guy :) lol great movie!! You took my stapler Bill Wheatley Senior Database Developer Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer EDIETS.COM 954.360.9022 X159 ICQ 417645 - Original Message - From: "Cantrell, Adam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED

RE: U.S., UK launch major Iraq airstrikes

2002-09-06 Thread Kevin Graeme
LOL! Crude, but I don't actually disagree. Kevin Graeme > -Original Message- > From: Paul Ihrig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 2:15 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: U.S., UK launch major Iraq airstrikes > > > ok.. get your stones ready... > > Iraq is a

Re: U.S., UK launch major Iraq airstrikes

2002-09-06 Thread Beth F
> the un is NOT a world police force. So what IS the UN? I think its intended to be a world police force, or at least a world law making body. __ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place f

RE: U.S., UK launch major Iraq airstrikes

2002-09-06 Thread Paul Ihrig
ok.. get your stones ready... Iraq is a sovereign nation. they have not made any offensive moves in many years... the un is NOT a world police force. because we are a part of the un does not give us right to give speeding tickets to any country not buying us doughnuts or muffins... bush is a d

RE: Screw work today.

2002-09-06 Thread Cantrell, Adam
Sounds like someone has a case of the Muundays. *points and snickers* > -Original Message- > From: Angel Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 12:04 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Screw work today. > > > Screw work today. > > I tried to simply tr

RE: Senate OKs arming airline pilots

2002-09-06 Thread Jacob
Even high velocity rounds penetrating the fuselage will not do as much damage as most people think. The fuselage leaks pressure when it flies to begin with. Plus with holes in the side of 747s and roofs flying off 737s, planes still flew... At 02:57 PM 9/6/2002 -0400, you wrote: >You can car

RE: Screw work today.

2002-09-06 Thread bbraver
"Screw work today" - isn't that what the gal at the Mustang Ranch said?? -Ben > That was a darn good one :) > > Where's Ben ;-) > > -Gel > > > -Original Message- > From: Smith, Matthew P -CONT(DYN) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 2:36 PM > To: CF-Comm

RE: Senate OKs arming airline pilots

2002-09-06 Thread Timothy Heald
You can carry sub sonic low velocity rounds. I mean with the tight spaces these guys are in you wouldn't want much more than a 38 or so anyway. You have the risk of over penetration, not just through the skin of the aircraft, but through the passengers. That's a risk. They should send these gu

Good old Smoking Man ie Ashcrack

2002-09-06 Thread Bill Wheatley
http://www.cnn.com/2002/US/09/06/hatfill.demand/index.html wtf I really hope this guy DID It since you felt the need to black ball and ruin his life. IF You cant prove he did it don't say he's a person of interest and get him shitcanned. Now when we can't prove something against a person we ca

L'Shanah Tovah

2002-09-06 Thread bbraver
May you all be inscribed in the Book of Life for a good new year. Fondly, -Ben Braver __ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. Archives: http://www.

Re: Senate OKs arming airline pilots

2002-09-06 Thread Howie Hamlin
They should arm piolts with tasers (or something like that)...bullets and fuselages don't mix. - Original Message - From: "Todd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 2:41 PM Subject: Senate OKs arming airline pilots > http://www.sa

Re: Senate OKs arming airline pilots

2002-09-06 Thread Jacob
Not only would the pilots on America West be drunk, but now armed... Should make for an interesting flight. At 02:41 PM 9/6/2002 -0400, you wrote: >http://www.sacbee.com/24hour/nation/story/525322p-4162560c.html > >Todd > > __

Senate OKs arming airline pilots

2002-09-06 Thread Todd
http://www.sacbee.com/24hour/nation/story/525322p-4162560c.html Todd __ Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm Ar

RE: Screw work today.

2002-09-06 Thread Angel Stewart
That was a darn good one :) Where's Ben ;-) -Gel -Original Message- From: Smith, Matthew P -CONT(DYN) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 2:36 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Screw work today. michael, marshall, in the end does it really even mather? __

Re: U.S., UK launch major Iraq airstrikes

2002-09-06 Thread Bill Wheatley
haha i was reading today was the 100th AA attack on Allied Aircraft :) about time Bill Wheatley Senior Database Developer Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer EDIETS.COM 954.360.9022 X159 ICQ 417645 - Original Message - From: "Raymond Camden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Com

RE: Screw work today.

2002-09-06 Thread Smith, Matthew P -CONT(DYN)
michael, marshall, in the end does it really even mather? >>-Original Message- >>From: William H. Bowen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >>Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 12:33 PM >>To: CF-Community >>Subject: Re: Screw work today. >> >>umm..marshall... mathers >> >>:-) >>will >> >> >>Wil

Re: U.S., UK launch major Iraq airstrikes

2002-09-06 Thread Hatton Humphrey
Part of the reason it didn't draw a lot of attention here is becuase all eyes are focused inward whether it is for the 9/11 observances or the heat on hte Hill concerning the thought of attacking. We are enforcing the no-fly zone that is a UN mandate and therefore not carrying out any new ord

Re: U.S., UK launch major Iraq airstrikes

2002-09-06 Thread Hatton Humphrey
As I said before, glass was and is still my answer. Hussein has violated the terms of the UN sanctions and agreements since the fighting stopped and will continue to do so unless he is removed from power. I personally don't want a puppet government in place and I don't think the Administrati

RE: U.S., UK launch major Iraq airstrikes

2002-09-06 Thread Haggerty, Mike
Your comments make me think there is a great irony in all this: typically, the element of surprise is best used against the enemy. In this case, we were the ones surprised. Anyways, this strike sounds like a fairly significant one, and that there were a lot of men and resources involved. It is su

Apple going the x86 way?

2002-09-06 Thread Larry Lyons
-- http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,3959,496270,00.asp August 30, 2002 Apple Keeps x86 Torch Lit with 'Marklar' By Matthew Rothenberg, and Nick dePlume, Think Secret As Apple Computer Inc. draws up its game plan for the CPUs that will power its future generations of Mac hardware, the company is

RE: Screw work today.

2002-09-06 Thread Timothy Heald
What's even funnier is that my play list just popped over to eminem. Tim > -Original Message- > From: Kevin Gilchrist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 1:41 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: Screw work today. > > > Me too, Max Graham - Transport 4. > > -

RE: Screw work today.

2002-09-06 Thread Kevin Gilchrist
Me too, Max Graham - Transport 4. -Original Message- From: Timothy Heald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 1:41 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Screw work today. /me is listening to trance, a subset of "techno" Tim

RE: Screw work today.

2002-09-06 Thread Raymond Camden
Spinner - which is the best damn online radio available (imho) - Channel - new indie. -rc > -Original Message- > From: Timothy Heald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 1:41 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: Screw work today. > > > /me is listening to tran

RE: U.S., UK launch major Iraq airstrikes

2002-09-06 Thread Raymond Camden
I am still baffled by this. If Iraq flies in the no fly zone, we should either ignore it, or completely destroy them. It's a like child that keeps trying to take a cookie and you keep swatting his hand. There should have been one (maybe two) violations of the no fly zone. After the 1st violation,

RE: Screw work today.

2002-09-06 Thread Timothy Heald
/me is listening to trance, a subset of "techno" Tim > -Original Message- > From: William H. Bowen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 1:33 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Screw work today. > > > umm..marshall... mathers > > :-) > will > > > Willia

RE: Screw work today.

2002-09-06 Thread Angel Stewart
0_0 *tweaks her earlobe* Michael Myers... Marshall mathers.. -Gel -Original Message- From: Stephenie Hamilton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 1:26 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Screw work today. As michael mathers said "no one listens to techno" ~~ S

Re: Screw work today.

2002-09-06 Thread William H. Bowen
umm..marshall... mathers :-) will William H. Bowen Webmaster ALSTOM's T&D Energy Automation & Information Business "Your friendly neighborhood Webmaster!" [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.esca.com/ 425.739.3629 Voice 425.466.7016 Cell 425.739.3690 FAX - Original Message - From: "St

RE: Screw work today.

2002-09-06 Thread Stephenie Hamilton
As michael mathers said "no one listens to techno" ~~ Steph > |-Original Message- > |From: Angel Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > |Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 1:23 PM > |To: CF-Community > |Subject: RE: Screw work today. > | > | > |Its mp3s. > | > |It didn't have My Decembe

RE: Screw work today.

2002-09-06 Thread Angel Stewart
Its mp3s. It didn't have My December on it.I had to grab that seperately. I think the song that really applies to me right now is: "I cannot take this anymore I'm saying everything I've said before All these words they make no sense I find bliss in ignorance Less I hear the less you'll say But

RE: Screw work today.

2002-09-06 Thread Stephenie Hamilton
I tried so hard And got so far But in the end It doesn’t even matter I had to fall To lose it all But in the end It doesn't even matter I’ve put my trust in you Pushed as far as I can go And for all this There's only one thing you should know --- Is it the remix cd? Or the original you are li

RE: U.S., UK launch major Iraq airstrikes

2002-09-06 Thread Wayne Putterill
Keep an eye on the BBC, I heard about this late last night (UK). Tony Blair is under increasing pressure to recall parliament BTW, it seems a lot of MPs are not happy with the way he is handling things with Iraq at the moment, "Of 100 MPs who agreed to take part in a survey for BBC Radio 4's Today

Screw work today.

2002-09-06 Thread Angel Stewart
Screw work today. I tried to simply transplant a win2K Advanced server hard disk into a new machine. Would it let me do it? Nwould you believe Win2K refused to recognise my bloody KEYBOARD!!? So I had to use the WinXP Pro installation that was on the new machine. So ok...I start instal

RE: U.S., UK launch major Iraq airstrikes

2002-09-06 Thread Timothy Heald
I couldn't agree more. While a free media is a necessary check against out of control government, I don't think that the government itself needs to be informing the media every time it plans on doing anything. This is one of my major arguments against going after Iraq. If we did it now, not only

RE: arg - online banking my rear...

2002-09-06 Thread bbraver
good point whatever happened to online-searchable microfiche ? (probably way more expensive than disk) the other poster was right - my bank outsources their web site. don't know about the VISA issuer. re: storage - my bank now sends "check images" back with the statement, all printed on 3-hol

Re: Clean a touch screen monitor

2002-09-06 Thread bbraver
two-part screen cleaner wipes from Office Depot or equiv. one envelope is moistened cleaning cloth, other is soft lint-free drying wipe. -Ben > What is the best way to clean a touch screen monitor? > > I am maintaining 8 touch screen systems and I think it is time to remove > the fingerprint

RE: Disturbing trends

2002-09-06 Thread Timothy Heald
Some may remember this originally as my anti government Fusebox rant from last year. It was much nicer then. I had a picture of Che Guvera on it and a little red flag and stuff, but I just don't have that much energy since I sold out and joined the Gov't :) Also De Oppresso Liber is the real SF

RE: U.S., UK launch major Iraq airstrikes

2002-09-06 Thread Craig Dudley
Apparantly that's the 10th such raid this year, albeit the biggest for four years. It seems Iraq regulary fires on planes patrolling the no fly zones, and us/uk planes regularly fire back. -Original Message- From: Haggerty, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 06 September 2002 17:10 T

Re: U.S., UK launch major Iraq airstrikes

2002-09-06 Thread Hatton Humphrey
Wow, amazing! The media actually didn't ruin a military action before it had a chance to get off the ground! .. and even cooler, the pic for the article is from the ship I made two cruises on, the USS George Washington (CVN-73). Now for the important thing. Airstrikes on Iraq are nothing new

U.S., UK launch major Iraq airstrikes

2002-09-06 Thread Haggerty, Mike
Why are we just hearing about this? U.S., UK launch major Iraq airstrikes http://www.msnbc.com/news/802167.asp __ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-co

RE: WOO HOO

2002-09-06 Thread Matt Liotta
They aren't my sites to share. Matt Liotta President & CEO Montara Software, Inc. http://www.montarasoftware.com/ V: 415-577-8070 F: 415-341-8906 P: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -Original Message- > From: Timothy Heald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 9:05 AM > To: CF

RE: WOO HOO

2002-09-06 Thread Timothy Heald
Do share :) Tim > -Original Message- > From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 11:58 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: WOO HOO > > > Actually most of the traffic is from IRC, FTP, and game servers, but I > do host porn as well. > > Matt Liott

RE: WOO HOO

2002-09-06 Thread Matt Liotta
Actually most of the traffic is from IRC, FTP, and game servers, but I do host porn as well. Matt Liotta President & CEO Montara Software, Inc. http://www.montarasoftware.com/ V: 415-577-8070 F: 415-341-8906 P: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -Original Message- > From: Bill Wheatley [mailto:[EMAIL P

RE: Disturbing trends

2002-09-06 Thread Erika L. Walker-Arnold
MUFFIN PAN BAP!! MUFFIN PAN BAP!! ;) Erika >>| -Original Message- >>| From: Timothy Heald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >>| >>| Fight the power >>| >>| Code free or die. >>| >>| Legal message >>| The preceding message was sent as mere sa

Re: WOO HOO

2002-09-06 Thread Bill Wheatley
porn! Bill Wheatley Senior Database Developer Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer EDIETS.COM 954.360.9022 X159 ICQ 417645 - Original Message - From: "Matt Liotta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 11:26 AM Subject: R

RE: Disturbing trends

2002-09-06 Thread Timothy Heald
De Opresso Libra Fight the power Coders unite. We must rise against the oppression of our minds by the evils of the "Topic Nazi's". Join me in the fight my brothers and sisters. Let no man or women fear to express themselves, for we the proletariat truly have the power. Without us there is no

RE: WOO HOO

2002-09-06 Thread Matt Liotta
I host high traffic servers. Matt Liotta President & CEO Montara Software, Inc. http://www.montarasoftware.com/ V: 415-577-8070 F: 415-341-8906 P: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -Original Message- > From: Bill Wheatley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 5:29 AM > To: CF-C

RE: Disturbing trends

2002-09-06 Thread Stephenie Hamilton
DITTO!! ~~ Steph > |-Original Message- > |From: Erika L. Walker-Arnold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > |Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 5:48 AM > |To: CF-Community > |Subject: RE: Disturbing trends > | > | > |>>| From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > |>>| > |>>| Can we

RE: arg - online banking my rear...

2002-09-06 Thread Jacob
3 years, yes. But if they suspect you committed fraud, I think they can go back more. I keep all papers. 2 years in my filing cabinet and 3 years boxed, then I scan anything after that and store them on a CD-ROM. In California, good idea to keep anything written for at least 4 years, especia

Re: DevCon

2002-09-06 Thread Howie Hamlin
The Dolphin. - Original Message - From: "Sandy Clark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 9:47 AM Subject: DevCon > Does anyone remember the hotel DevCon did the majority of its presentations > in last year? > > Was it the Swan o

Re: DevCon

2002-09-06 Thread Jon Hall
I'm not 100%, but I believe the majority of the sessions happened in the Dolphin, and the Swan housed only the hand-on sessions. I distinctly remember walking across a bridge to a smaller building for the hand-on stuff. -- jon mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Friday, September 6, 2002, 9:47:40 AM, you

Re: Disturbing trends

2002-09-06 Thread Stephen Moretti
> *scratches head* > *puzzled look* > > -Gel > Jochem accidently posted this message to CF-Talk first :o) __ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm

RE: Disturbing trends

2002-09-06 Thread Angel Stewart
*scratches head* *puzzled look* -Gel -Original Message- From: Ashok [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Hello Jochem !! Good Day!! Just think how many guys would be doing the same mistake that you have done posting it in another mailing list. Possibly that is the reason why we

DevCon

2002-09-06 Thread Sandy Clark
Does anyone remember the hotel DevCon did the majority of its presentations in last year? Was it the Swan or the Dolphin? Drawing a blank and really want to get a room in the hotel most of the presentations will be in. Thanks Sandy _

RE: WOO HOO

2002-09-06 Thread Kevin Graeme
> One of these days soon, the bottom will drop out of the broadband market > .. And it'll be as easy to get as a quart of milk. I wish. Unfortunately, the trends in dial up don't seem to support that wish. Prices in dial up access have been gradually rising over the past several years. It used to

RE: Disturbing trends

2002-09-06 Thread Kevin Gilchrist
Guilty as charged! Coincidentally, I finally re-subscribed to cf-talk yesterday after an 8 month hiatus. No more Oracle stuff! ;-p -Original Message- From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 5:36 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Disturbing trend

RE: Medical News

2002-09-06 Thread Kevin Gilchrist
Aww man !! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 8:00 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Medical News You may have heard of Sleep Apnea, a condition where a person can stop breathing for 30 seconds or more at night, then su

RE: SP3 ate my PC

2002-09-06 Thread Kevin Gilchrist
Can't fault ya there! -Original Message- From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 6:32 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: SP3 ate my PC True, but I figured that upgrading to SP3 was better than relying on the component updates on the CD. Paint me w

RE: WOO HOO

2002-09-06 Thread Ben Doom
: One of these days soon, the bottom will drop out of the broadband market : .. And it'll be as easy to get as a quart of milk. You mean you'll have to squeeze a cow to get it? --Ben Doom Programmer & General Lackey Moonbow Software __

Re: Disturbing trends

2002-09-06 Thread Bill Wheatley
No list nazis on cf-community as I carry the picket sign around Bill Wheatley Senior Database Developer Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer EDIETS.COM 954.360.9022 X159 ICQ 417645 - Original Message - From: "Jochem van Dieten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL

Re: Disturbing trends

2002-09-06 Thread Bill Wheatley
bah everything here is on topic. Sometimes i ask tech questions here because cf-talk i dont always want to do. and damn dutch facists kill'em all!! j/k Bill Wheatley Senior Database Developer Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer EDIETS.COM 954.360.9022 X159 ICQ 417645 - Origina

Re: WOO HOO

2002-09-06 Thread Bill Wheatley
what are you doing spamming? :) Bill Wheatley Senior Database Developer Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer EDIETS.COM 954.360.9022 X159 ICQ 417645 - Original Message - From: "Matt Liotta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, September

RE: arg - online banking my rear...

2002-09-06 Thread Raymond Camden
Oh, I defintely agree that the system is good in general - it just seemed silly that I couldn't find 'old' date (mind you, this is only 9-10 months ago) - and it seemed real silly when I couldn't find it at both my bank and my credit card site - and when I called them directly. I understand now fr

RE: Disturbing trends

2002-09-06 Thread Erika L. Walker-Arnold
>>| From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >>| >>| /me tacklehugs Erika *** gasping for air *** I can't breathe! Help! Help! ;) And I think he's crushed my breakfast muffin! Now I'm off to make a pot o'tea. And do some code. :) E with a bent, tackled K ___

RE: Disturbing trends

2002-09-06 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Quoting "Erika L. Walker-Arnold" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Nothing is off-topic. Even Jochem! ;) > Whom we adore ... ;) /me tacklehugs Erika Jochem __ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The plac

RE: Disturbing trends

2002-09-06 Thread Erika L. Walker-Arnold
Actually, this is a mailing list for anything. Politics, Religion, Jokes, Tech-talk, Muffins, You name it, you can talk about it here. Nothing is off-topic. Even Jochem! ;) Whom we adore ... ;) Erika >>| -Original Message- >>| From: Ashok

RE: Disturbing trends

2002-09-06 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Quoting "Erika L. Walker-Arnold" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > But there are no off-topic topics for this list. It's a > free-for-all anything goes. ;) Is it? I thought it was a list for everything that doesn't have a place on other cf-* lists. > Besides, I often ask questions that get completely

RE: Disturbing trends

2002-09-06 Thread Erika L. Walker-Arnold
>>| From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >>| >>| Can we >>| please keep the techno-talk at cf-talk? But there are no off-topic topics for this list. It's a free-for-all anything goes. ;) Besides, I often ask questions that get completely ignored and buried on CF-Talk, so I brin

Re: Disturbing trends

2002-09-06 Thread Ashok
Hello Jochem !! Good Day!! Just think how many guys would be doing the same mistake that you have done posting it in another mailing list. Possibly that is the reason why we are getting mails which are off-topic just as yours. Thanks Ashok - Original Message - From: "Joc

Disturbing trends

2002-09-06 Thread Jochem van Dieten
When browsing through my cf-community folder I discovered a disturbing trend: more and more messages appear to be off-topic. People with Oracle, ASP vs. CF, cfregistry, CF and Java problems seem to believe this list is the appropriate channel to ask for help. With all these messages, the signa

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