RE: Don't ride without a Helmet in AZ

2003-02-03 Thread Eric Dawson
what are the participation rates on insurance in the states? >>You should have insurance. read 100%? or universal? if you tell me.. "you should have insurance" tell me when in it is exclusionary... that's the issue. Medicine is a business. The end. They have expenses. They have employees. Why d

RE: Don't ride without a Helmet in AZ

2003-02-03 Thread Lon Lentz
The law will never hold up in court. Down here in the Gunshine State(tm), they allow people to ride without helmets, but they must have a minimum level of personal injury insurance in order to do so. A very good compromise. Motorcyclists in our state are not normally required to have insura

RE: Don't ride without a Helmet in AZ

2003-02-03 Thread Vinny DiDonato
Did it have code-eine? -V -Original Message- From: Ben Doom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 05:55 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Don't ride without a Helmet in AZ I had a code once. Then I took some code medicine and I was better. -- Ben Doom Progra

RE: Don't ride without a Helmet in AZ

2003-02-03 Thread Vinny DiDonato
Oh, I'm just busting your chops. ;) I didn't miss your point. No one should tell you how to ride, what to wear when riding, etc. I ride without full gear -- sometimes a t-shirt and sweatpants (along with my lid). I get flamed by the angels on wheels for not wearing gear. 'Eff 'em, I say. I we

RE: Don't ride without a Helmet in AZ

2003-02-03 Thread Eric Dawson
>>The Canadian healthcare was substandard might be true. 6 months for MRIs and other issues come to mind. Tell me about your experiences. The canadian healthcare authorities are worried about creating a two tiered healthcare system. doesn't scare me. a certain amount of privatization wouldn't hu

RE: Guard your jewels!

2003-02-03 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Hard to type while doing this, but if you say so. -Original Message- From: Bill Wheatley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 4:18 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Guard your jewels! http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/2703355.stm -- Bill Wheatley Senior Databas

Universal Healthcare is an interesting debate.

2003-02-03 Thread Eric Dawson
Universal Healthcare is an interesting debate. Let me know what the resolve is. I don't think western medicine achieves what we need it to achieve regardless of the nature of its politics. Some thoughts/questions... Can universal healthcare be cheaper than market driven healthcare? (total soc

Re: Don't ride without a Helmet in AZ

2003-02-03 Thread jon hall
ad hominem... Besides took my words in a way I didn't intend and proceeded to miss my point. I sincerely doubt my statement described you personally in any way. -- jon mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Monday, February 3, 2003, 5:01:31 PM, you wrote: VD> type="troll"> VD> I wonder if he ride

RE: Don't ride without a Helmet in AZ

2003-02-03 Thread Ben Doom
I had a code once. Then I took some code medicine and I was better. -- Ben Doom Programmer & General Lackey Moonbow Software, Inc : -Original Message- : From: Vinny DiDonato [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] : Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 5:46 PM : To: CF-Community : Subject: RE: D

RE: Don't ride without a Helmet in AZ

2003-02-03 Thread Vinny DiDonato
Errr.. Road, not rode, as in rode my bike. Egads, too much code... Er, coad? No! Code! -V -Original Message- From: Vinny DiDonato [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 05:36 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Don't ride without a Helmet in AZ What I find funny is

RE: 1 View of USA from UK

2003-02-03 Thread Jerry Johnson
Currently, Boston MA. And for the record, I am not for a war. I am a Navy brat, and am against placing "our boys" in harms way without a really good reason. I don't know what I am for, but I know I am _against_ Saddam Hussein. He's mean. If international agreements are ever going to mean anythi

RE: 1 View of USA from UK

2003-02-03 Thread Andy Ousterhout
True. Interesting enough, South Korea is scared to death of the north collapsing. They would be unable to absorb the economic impact of either open borders or a joining like East & West Germany. -Original Message- From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 03, 2

RE: Don't ride without a Helmet in AZ

2003-02-03 Thread Vinny DiDonato
What I find funny is that I was debating this same news article on a motorcyclist email list and I never picked up on AZ. Let's hope I'm more aware when I'm on the rode. ;) -V -Original Message- From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 05:18 PM To:

1 View of USA from UK

2003-02-03 Thread Kevin Schmidt
//snip ...for a rejoinder to the retort: //snip Usually a retort attacks the viewpoints of the author. This just attacks him for telling people in Hollywood, et al to shut, because they don't know what they are talking about. Kevin ~

Re: Don't ride without a Helmet in AZ

2003-02-03 Thread BethF
And what about the teenager with his freakin radio up so loud he cant' hear you at all? - Original Message - From: "Vinny DiDonato" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 1:06 PM Subject: RE: Don't ride without a Helmet in AZ > Don't ge

Re: Don't ride without a Helmet in AZ

2003-02-03 Thread BethF
Timothy, You forget, suicide is illegal. - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 1:00 PM Subject: RE: Don't ride without a Helmet in AZ > Since when is it illegal to be a fool? > > I never said I don't wear min

RE: 1 View of USA from UK

2003-02-03 Thread Angel Stewart
0_0 Could you sum this up in one paragraph for me? I got lost somewhere around the Marsh Arabs. -Gel -Original Message- From: Kevin Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 4:39 PM To: CF-Community Subject: 1 View of USA from UK Here's a great retort to tha

RE: Don't ride without a Helmet in AZ

2003-02-03 Thread Kevin Graeme
LOL! 34 posts and this is the first to point out the mistake. -Kevin > -Original Message- > From: Stephenie Hamilton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 4:01 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: Don't ride without a Helmet in AZ > > > You mean New Mexico > > > ~~

Guard your jewels!

2003-02-03 Thread Bill Wheatley
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/2703355.stm -- Bill Wheatley Senior Database Developer Macromedia Advanced Coldfusion 5 Developer Ediets.com ICQ - 417645 Aim - Bill Ediets 954-749-5013 x159 ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffu

Re: Don't ride without a Helmet in AZ

2003-02-03 Thread jon hall
Monday, February 3, 2003, 4:50:18 PM, you wrote: LCL> Ever had to feed, bathe or wipe the ass of someone who is paralyzed from LCL> the neck down because of a bike accident. Try it a few times, then you can LCL> discuss the wearing of helmets. Nope, and I think perhaps you are letting your perso

RE: 1 View of USA from UK

2003-02-03 Thread Kevin Graeme
Another aspect is neighboring countries and our relationships with them. South Korea currently is engaged in their "Sunshine Policy" towards North Korea and is valiantly trying to open up North Korea using peaceful trade deals. South Korea is also a significant trade partner with the U.S. and thei

RE: 1 View of USA from UK

2003-02-03 Thread Angel Stewart
She's american though..so I don't know if this will count in your quest for responses. -Gel -Original Message- From: Andy Ousterhout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Com-on. Don't hold back. Tell us what you really think -Original Message- From: Angel Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTEC

Re: Don't ride without a Helmet in AZ

2003-02-03 Thread Bill Wheatley
http://movies.ogrish.com/motorhead.asf There thats a reason for wanting to wear a helmet. Its pretty graphic and thats why i wouldnt ride without a helmet. Its graphic so if you're at work dont let anyonre see - Original Message - From: "Larry C. Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Commun

Understanding

2003-02-03 Thread Ben Braver
They had a license on the collar. -Ben ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=5 This list and all House of Fu

Don't ride without a Helmet in AZ

2003-02-03 Thread Kevin Schmidt
//snip A counter question. How long is the wait for an MRI if you don't have the insurance to cover it down here. How about simple preventative care if you have no health insurance. //snip Here in Des Moines, Iowa, not long. We have a community hospital. http://www.broadlawns.org/ I don't m

RE: 1 View of USA from UK

2003-02-03 Thread Harkins,Patrick
...for a rejoinder to the retort: http://byzantiumshores.blogspot.com/2003_01_19_byzantiumshores_archive.html ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lis

RE: 1 View of USA from UK

2003-02-03 Thread Harkins,Patrick
and another rejoinder: http://highclearing.com/uoarchives/week_2003_01_19.html ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&

RE: Don't ride without a Helmet in AZ

2003-02-03 Thread Vinny DiDonato
Don't get me wrong -- I love loud pipes, but I have mixed feelings about the term "Loud Pipes Save Lives". Yeah, I put a pipe on my bike and it's definitely more noticeable. But my question is -- how do the loud pipes help the person in front of you notice that you're behind them? What stops the

RE: Don't ride without a Helmet in AZ

2003-02-03 Thread healdt
Larry thats the point. You should have insurance. Medicine is a business. The end. They have expenses. They have employees. Why don't you get that? Tim -Original Message- From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 4:54 PM To: CF-Community Subject:

1 View of USA from UK

2003-02-03 Thread Ben Braver
OMG. Now _I_ know the end of the world is near. For I'm saying "right on, Kevin". -Ben ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=sub

RE: Don't ride without a Helmet in AZ

2003-02-03 Thread healdt
See phrased like that I can agree. -Original Message- From: jon hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 4:53 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Don't ride without a Helmet in AZ I know the coward bit was out of line...it makes me angry though. It's not possible in m

RE: Don't ride without a Helmet in AZ

2003-02-03 Thread healdt
You shouldn't have to pay for it or explain it unless you want to. Thats the point. -Original Message- From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 4:50 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Don't ride without a Helmet in AZ Ever had to feed, bathe or wipe

Re: Don't ride without a Helmet in AZ

2003-02-03 Thread BethF
> I wish all the piss ant cowards who are too scared to ride a damn > motorcycle without a helmet would just keep quiet and let those who > are not scared of their own shadow run things. Um, folks who care enough about themselves, family and friends enough to wear a helmet aren't "piss ant coward

RE: Don't ride without a Helmet in AZ

2003-02-03 Thread Stephenie Hamilton
You mean New Mexico ~~ Stephenie Hamilton Macromedia Certified ColdFusion Professional CFXHosting -Original Message- From: Nick McClure [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 2:36 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Don't ride without a Helmet in AZ http://www.ama-cyc

RE: Don't ride without a Helmet in AZ

2003-02-03 Thread healdt
Since when is it illegal to be a fool? I never said I don't wear mine. I said that having the big mommie in the sky telling me I have to is wrong. We are supposed to be a nation of personal freedom, and individual liberty. Not rule from above, rather rule from below. Do I think it's silly not t

RE: Don't ride without a Helmet in AZ

2003-02-03 Thread Vinny DiDonato
I wonder if he rides a Harley... -V -Original Message- From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 04:50 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Don't ride without a Helmet in AZ Ever had to feed, bathe or wipe the ass of someone who is paralyzed from

RE: 1 View of USA from UK

2003-02-03 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Jerry, Where are you from? Again, just trying to get a perspective on thoughts in different parts of the world. Andy -Original Message- From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 3:28 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: 1 View of USA from UK Gel, Do y

RE: 1 View of USA from UK

2003-02-03 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Com-on. Don't hold back. Tell us what you really think -Original Message- From: Angel Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 3:38 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: 1 View of USA from UK Here's a friend's view on the article :) She's such a sweety.. Wouldn't

RE: 1 View of USA from UK

2003-02-03 Thread Harkins,Patrick
...who wrote this? > -Original Message- > From: Kevin Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 3:39 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: 1 View of USA from UK > > > Here's a great retort to that "piece" of work: > > It's another dispatch from the alternate univ

RE: 1 View of USA from UK

2003-02-03 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Thanks. I just like to see where each perspective is coming from... By the way, your whether must be way betters than ours in Chicago. 36 F, foggy and wet. If it wasn't for the lousy beer, we could be in the UK. Andy -Original Message- From: Angel Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Se

Re: Don't ride without a Helmet in AZ

2003-02-03 Thread Larry C. Lyons
3 days in Vancouver BC. I can check with a couple of doctor friends I know in Winnipeg to see how long the wait is at either St Boniface Hospital or a WGH. But I believe its not very long, perhaps a week or two at the very most. Not sure about the waits in either New Brunswick or Nova Scotia. A

RE: Don't ride without a Helmet in AZ

2003-02-03 Thread healdt
I lived in Canada on and off from the time I was 10 till about 16. My father was a contractor wirking ofr the Canadian AirFarce on CF-18s. The care was substandard, the taxes were outrageous, GST was instituted while I was there. They have a provence that still wants to break away. They were mu

Re: Don't ride without a Helmet in AZ

2003-02-03 Thread jon hall
I know the coward bit was out of line...it makes me angry though. It's not possible in my mind to have a logical discussion with someone who is arrogant or greedy enough to presume that their insurance rates are more important than another persons pursuit of happiness. -- jon mailto:[EMAIL PROT

Re: Don't ride without a Helmet in AZ

2003-02-03 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Ever had to feed, bathe or wipe the ass of someone who is paralyzed from the neck down because of a bike accident. Try it a few times, then you can discuss the wearing of helmets. Why should I have to pay through the nose because you're being a selfish stupid bastard. Why should I have to explai

RE: 1 View of USA from UK

2003-02-03 Thread Andy Ousterhout
There is another difference between North Korea and Iraq, one that we are trying to maintain -- 1 has nuclear weapons and one does not. I haven't yet seen a logical discussion about why each should be treated the same since they are each violating different agreements, with different implications

RE: Understanding

2003-02-03 Thread Ben Doom
Knock knock? Who's there? Cat. Cat who? Meow. Knock knock? Who's there? Dog. Dog who? Woof. Knock knock? Who's there? Impatient Cow Impatient -- Moo! -- Ben Doom Programmer & General Lackey Moonbow Software, Inc : -Original Message- : From: Angel Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECT

RE: 1 View of USA from UK

2003-02-03 Thread healdt
You know, I think people may be surprised. I actually believe that we are going to try and make a number of changes throught the world. I really think after Iraq we will try for Iran or maybe N Korea or Pakistan. Bush was an oil exec. He knows that there is plenty of oil in the US and Venezuala

Re: Don't ride without a Helmet in AZ

2003-02-03 Thread Bill Wheatley
Actually i wont touch the smoking thing but i will say that forcing people to wear seat belts is a good thing. It helps fools who dont wear them by making them motivated to wear them. OF course being hit by someone being thrown from a vehicle for not wearing their seat belts is annoying too so cons

RE: Don't ride without a Helmet in AZ

2003-02-03 Thread Vinny DiDonato
Whoa there fella -- so you're telling me that basically I'm a "piss ant coward" because I don't ride my bike without a helmet? Maybe I want to live should I get into an accident. After all, I love seeing my daughter's smiling face. I think you should lose the macho shit because should you fall

Re: space shuttle columbia accident

2003-02-03 Thread Bill Wheatley
True dat i'm sure they wont cancel it but to see the Nasa Administrator say something like that is just...well maybe he was drunk. - Original Message - From: "Maureen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 3:31 PM Subject: Re: space sh

Don't ride without a Helmet in AZ

2003-02-03 Thread Kevin Schmidt
//snip If you look at the per capita health care costs where there is socialized medicine, its considerably less than here. Lets face it, what you call socialized medicine works. More people are covered and as a consequence are healthier. That has a significant positive impact on the economy.

RE: Don't ride without a Helmet in AZ

2003-02-03 Thread healdt
Ok, I have to say, that was not the opinion I was putting forward at all. I agreed with all of the first paragraph, but the part about piss ant cowards was a bit over the top. I would never ride without a helmet. Because I love my wife an dchildren and life. Not because I am neccesarilly

RE: 1 View of USA from UK

2003-02-03 Thread Angel Stewart
Trinidad. We actually kinda officially want the US to go to war, because it would probably push the price of oil up. I just can't agree with those people that say that Oil has nothing to do with why the US wants this war so badly. Tell me its oil and a security threat and I might go along with t

RE: 1 View of USA from UK

2003-02-03 Thread Angel Stewart
Here's a friend's view on the article :) She's such a sweety.. Wouldn't hurt a fly really... ^_^ "crock.. does this guy even live here? this person is clueless..lol This is no more then America has money so it should support every one else no matter what they do in any fight we chose wether it

RE: Don't ride without a Helmet in AZ

2003-02-03 Thread healdt
Not at all. It suggests they are businesses that will be run on profit. God forbid people should have to become fiscally responsible for themselves and their families. I mean I think that doing totally away with all health and social services would be a major boon to the economy. You return the

1 View of USA from UK

2003-02-03 Thread Kevin Schmidt
Here's a great retort to that "piece" of work: It’s another dispatch from the alternate universe where the FBI puts the screws to newspapers that run too many anti-war letters, where Bush appears on TV to lead us all in Communion, and a stunned and cowed population shuffles off to the Gruel Fact

Re: Don't ride without a Helmet in AZ

2003-02-03 Thread jon hall
Amen, the problem is that there is no opt out of the stupid welfare tax crap I pay on every paycheck. So not only do I subsidize all these morons, I have to listen to their opinions on how I live my life because their insurance rates, that I subsidize even though during my adult life I have never h

Re: Picture of Bush as Gollum

2003-02-03 Thread Todd
http://www.kickkat.com/images/picture/gollumbush_s.jpg - Original Message - From: "Candace Cottrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 3:41 PM Subject: Picture of Bush as Gollum > Whoever posted that picture of George Bush as Goll

RE: Understanding

2003-02-03 Thread Ben Doom
Ah, so we've collared a plagarizer! Not a very hairy case, though. The suspect did more than just throw us a bone. -- Ben Doom Programmer & General Lackey Moonbow Software, Inc : -Original Message- : From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] : Sent: Monday, February 0

RE: Understanding

2003-02-03 Thread Angel Stewart
Oom. The Anti Cow. -Gel ^_^ -Original Message- From: Ben Doom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Moo. -- Ben Doom Programmer & General Lackey Moonbow Software, Inc ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_list

RE: 1 View of USA from UK

2003-02-03 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Angel, Where are you from? Andy -Original Message- From: Angel Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 3:16 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: 1 View of USA from UK Not just Europe. Other parts of the world share this view too. Excesses in policy decisions as

RE: 1 View of USA from UK

2003-02-03 Thread Jerry Johnson
Gel, Do you remember the Gulf War? Do you remember who surrendered? Do you remember what agreements they signed to stop the shelling? Those are the sticks being used to go after Iraq. They have violated the agreements they signed which made the Coalition stop attacking them. They started it. T

RE: Understanding

2003-02-03 Thread Ben Doom
Moo. -- Ben Doom Programmer & General Lackey Moonbow Software, Inc : -Original Message- : From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] : Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 2:14 PM : To: CF-Community : Subject: RE: Understanding : : : woof :) : : -Original Message- : F

RE: my twins are here!!!

2003-02-03 Thread Angel Stewart
LOL! :) -Gel -Original Message- From: Candace Cottrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Congrats! And boy are they cute! Congrats! And boy are they cute! ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumi

RE: my twins are here!!!

2003-02-03 Thread Candace Cottrell
Congrats! And boy are they cute! Congrats! And boy are they cute! Candace K. Cottrell, Web Developer The Children's Medical Center One Children's Plaza Dayton, OH 45404 937-641-4293 http://www.childrensdayton.org [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Picture of Bush as Gollum

2003-02-03 Thread Candace Cottrell
teehee Thanks http://home.earthlink.net/~digitaltodd/fark/GollumSoTU.jpg Candace K. Cottrell, Web Developer The Children's Medical Center One Children's Plaza Dayton, OH 45404 937-641-4293 http://www.childrensdayton.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2/3/2003 3:49:27 PM >>>

RE: 1 View of USA from UK

2003-02-03 Thread Angel Stewart
Not just Europe. Other parts of the world share this view too. Excesses in policy decisions as a result or using 9/11 as an excuse. That the war on Iraq is more for Oil than anything else, especially in light of North Korea's posturings. If Bush was to be true on his rhetoric N. Korea should get

RE: Don't ride without a Helmet in AZ

2003-02-03 Thread Kevin Graeme
When you put that bike down--and you will--and you become a mental vegetable, you will no longer be a contributing member of the CF-Community. Expand on that to encompass family, friends and anyone else. Every life impacts others. -Kevin > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ma

RE: Don't ride without a Helmet in AZ

2003-02-03 Thread Harkins,Patrick
that suggests that insurance companies are benevolent institutions! Patrick > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 4:04 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: Don't ride without a Helmet in AZ > > > Do away with social

RE: Don't ride without a Helmet in AZ

2003-02-03 Thread Larry C. Lyons
If you look at the per capita health care costs where there is socialized medicine, its considerably less than here. Lets face it, what you call socialized medicine works. More people are covered and as a consequence are healthier. That has a significant positive impact on the economy. larry A

RE: Don't ride without a Helmet in AZ

2003-02-03 Thread Angel Stewart
And there begins the problems of millions. -Gel -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Do away with socialized medicine and there goes your problem. ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion

RE: Don't ride without a Helmet in AZ

2003-02-03 Thread Vinny DiDonato
Totally agreed. As a motorcyclist (commute and sport) I respect one's choice to not wear a helmet. Quite frankly, the world needs more organ donors. -V -Original Message- From: Angel Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 03:52 PM To: CF-Community Subject:

RE: Don't ride without a Helmet in AZ

2003-02-03 Thread healdt
Gel, I don't believe in public health care. You should never have to pay for anythng I do. Now since you live in a different nation entirely I will never cause you to pay for my stupidity. -Original Message- From: Angel Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 0

RE: Don't ride without a Helmet in AZ

2003-02-03 Thread healdt
Do away with socialized medicine and there goes your problem. -Original Message- From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 3:50 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Don't ride without a Helmet in AZ Insurance and hospitalization. larry At 03:45 PM 2/3/

Re: Don't ride without a Helmet in AZ

2003-02-03 Thread Howie Hamlin
Higher insurance rates for others that are smart enough to wear a helmet. - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 3:45 PM Subject: RE: Don't ride without a Helmet in AZ > How does my not wearing a helmet impac

RE: Don't ride without a Helmet in AZ

2003-02-03 Thread Angel Stewart
If you end up in public health care and I have to pay for your stupidity. -Gel -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] How does my not wearing a helmet impact others? ~| Archives: http://

1 View of USA from UK

2003-02-03 Thread Andy Ousterhout
I am curious from those of you in the UK and other parts of Europe how widely this view is held. Andy The [London] Times January 15, 2003 OPINION The United States of America has gone mad by John le Carré America has entered one of its periods of historical madness, but this

RE: Don't ride without a Helmet in AZ

2003-02-03 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Insurance and hospitalization. larry At 03:45 PM 2/3/03 -0500, you wrote: >How does my not wearing a helmet impact others? > >-Original Message- >From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 3:42 PM >To: CF-Community >Subject: RE: Don't ride without a H

Re: Picture of Bush as Gollum

2003-02-03 Thread Howie Hamlin
http://home.earthlink.net/~digitaltodd/fark/GollumBush_s.jpg - Original Message - From: "Candace Cottrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 3:41 PM Subject: Picture of Bush as Gollum > Whoever posted that picture of George Bush a

Re: Don't ride without a Helmet in AZ

2003-02-03 Thread jon hall
I think everyone should have their head examined either way... -- jon mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Monday, February 3, 2003, 2:19:46 PM, you wrote: KS> Pack up the canned foods and shotgun and head for the hills, cause I agree with Larry again! If you ride a bike without a helmet, you should hav

Re: space shuttle columbia accident

2003-02-03 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Agreed, Brazil had slavery for about 20 years after the US banned it. Formal chattel slavery was not banned in imperial Russia until the late 1880's, early 1890's. China didn't ban slavery until Chiang-Kai-Shek's regime in the 1920's.The Sudan right now allows slavery, and has military slaving

RE: Don't ride without a Helmet in AZ

2003-02-03 Thread healdt
How does my not wearing a helmet impact others? -Original Message- From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 3:42 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Don't ride without a Helmet in AZ But the impact on others is also significant. I don't care if the idi

Re: space shuttle columbia accident

2003-02-03 Thread Maureen
"If we die, we want people to accept it. We're in a risky business, and we hope that if anything happens to us it will not delay the program. The conquest of space is worth the risk of life." - Gus Grissom (died in the Apollo One accident, January 27, 1967) ~

Picture of Bush as Gollum

2003-02-03 Thread Candace Cottrell
Whoever posted that picture of George Bush as Gollum from LTR, can you please repost it??? Candace K. Cottrell, Web Developer The Children's Medical Center One Children's Plaza Dayton, OH 45404 937-641-4293 http://www.childrensdayton.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~

RE: Don't ride without a Helmet in AZ

2003-02-03 Thread Larry C. Lyons
But the impact on others is also significant. I don't care if the idiot kills himself. However by that person's idiocy it screws things up for others. Its not just a matter of the right to choose, its also a matter of the rights of others. larry At 03:35 PM 2/3/03 -0500, you wrote: >Sorry but

RE: space shuttle columbia accident

2003-02-03 Thread Maureen
At 09:54 AM 2/3/03, Gel wrote: >Then the only casualties would be the US Taxpayers should 150 Million >dollar satellite explode etc. All of the satellites are insured, so the only real casualties are the stock-holders in the insurance companies. All this crap about millions of dollars being sho

space shuttle columbia accident

2003-02-03 Thread Ben Braver
Will- and a good $0.02 IMO. The other side of the equation is the perceived level of risk. NASA has tried to portray the shuttle from the beginning as a safe truck line, if you will - even naming it the Space Transportation System. It is *not* and has never been a "truck line", it literally is

Re: space shuttle columbia accident

2003-02-03 Thread William H. Bowen
Yes, yes I know...but it seems lately that most of the history of slavery has been...ahem...brushed aside in favor busting America's (or American's) collective balls over the issue... will William H. Bowen Webmaster ALSTOM's T&D Energy Automation & Information Business "Your friendly neig

RE: Don't ride without a Helmet in AZ

2003-02-03 Thread healdt
Sorry but I can't go for two in one day :) Forcing a person to wear a helmet when riding is like forcing a person to wear a seat belt or making smoking illegal. Your still impacting a persons right to choose. I think it's a bad idea, but that doesn't mean you shoudln't be able to do it. Tim --

RE: space shuttle columbia accident

2003-02-03 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Dunno it sounds really kinky. Does it come with the leather bustier and mask etc? larry At 03:29 PM 2/3/03 -0500, you wrote: >There is nothing natural about strapping a rocket anywhere, but, I'd do >it. > > > -Original Message- > > From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent:

Re: space shuttle columbia accident

2003-02-03 Thread Maureen
At 09:05 AM 2/3/03, Bill wrote: >And i also read on msnbc somewhere a quote from the Nasa Administrator that >this will probably mean the end of the shuttle program and the International >Space Station. Won't happen. No one in this administration wants the public relations nightmare that would en

Re: Don't ride without a Helmet in AZ

2003-02-03 Thread Larry C. Lyons
real shocking. larry At 03:19 PM 2/3/03 -0400, you wrote: >Pack up the canned foods and shotgun and head for the hills, cause I agree >with Larry again! If you ride a bike without a helmet, you should have >your head examined. As I understand Larry can do it for you if you like. :) >

RE: space shuttle columbia accident

2003-02-03 Thread Nick McClure
There is nothing natural about strapping a rocket anywhere, but, I'd do it. > -Original Message- > From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 3:07 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: space shuttle columbia accident > > > But, in case anyone wonders, I

Re: space shuttle columbia accident

2003-02-03 Thread Larry C. Lyons
From what I understand, the Portuguese introduced chattel slavery to medieval/modern Europe in the 14th century, and the Islamic Arabs did the same to the middle east in the 7th century AD. Before that the Romans and the Germanic tribes had similar systems, but at least the slave could buy his

Don't ride without a Helmet in AZ

2003-02-03 Thread Kevin Schmidt
Pack up the canned foods and shotgun and head for the hills, cause I agree with Larry again! If you ride a bike without a helmet, you should have your head examined. As I understand Larry can do it for you if you like. :) ~| Ar

Re: space shuttle columbia accident

2003-02-03 Thread Marlon Moyer
Hey, can you say circumnavigate on this list? :) Marlon William H. Bowen wrote: >Rather his "Personal Assistant" Molluccas was first to circumnavigate, yes? > > > > > ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/ind

Re: space shuttle columbia accident

2003-02-03 Thread William H. Bowen
slave?!?! a european with a slave!?! aack!! no no it was only we Americans who ever had slaves... Rather his "Personal Assistant" Molluccas was first to circumnavigate, yes? ^_^ "Personal Assistant" more euro-friendly... Still... how long did it take for that particular record to come to light

RE: space shuttle columbia accident

2003-02-03 Thread Kevin Graeme
> But, in case anyone wonders, I would go into space in a > heartbeat. With a rocket strapped to my butt if I could enjoy it > for at least 5 minutes. > > I am just glad they got to complete the mission. > > Jerry Johnson Holy crap man! You've just solved the NASA budget problems! =) Oh wait, th

RE: Webramp

2003-02-03 Thread Erika L. Walker-Arnold
Sorry. Couldn't help it. ;) And you weren't online. ;) http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=webr amp >>| -Original Message- >>| From: SMR [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >>| Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 7:38 PM >>| To: CF-

Re: Don't ride without a Helmet in AZ

2003-02-03 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Hmm motorcyclists who refuse to wear helmets and then after the accident are brain-dead. Seems to me if they refuse to wear helmets before the accident a pretty good case can be made for declaring them brain dead before the accident. larry At 02:35 PM 2/3/03 -0500, you wrote: >http://www.ama-

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