RE: ATI 850 picture

2004-11-23 Thread James Smith
I must have been out of the game too long. Why are all the high end graphics cards going back to PCI instead of AGP? -- Jay -Original Message- From: Angel Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 22 November 2004 18:45 To: CF-Community Subject: RE: ATI 850 picture Ah... It's

Re: JFK Reloaded - sick

2004-11-23 Thread Bill Wheatley
have been trying to find the darn site for the game for awhile thanks for finding it finally. On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 22:49:40 -0500, Howie Hamlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, this is one of the most tasteless video games I've ever heard of. http://www.jfkreloaded.net/

Re: Got my Half-Life 2 Package!

2004-11-23 Thread Bill Wheatley
woot congrats : On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 20:51:51 -, Wayne Putterill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorted it, I was in a dead end and just didn't realise it. Got up to the Water Hazard now. -Original Message- From: John Stanley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 22 November 2004

RE: Got my Half-Life 2 Package!

2004-11-23 Thread Wayne Putterill
Unfortunately I have to restrain myself from playing for a few days as I really need to get on with a job :( Pity I wasted so much time yesterday - my fault for not paying attention and then coming back to the game after a few hours. I am really impressed with this game, and it works well with my

Re: Got my Half-Life 2 Package!

2004-11-23 Thread Bill Wheatley
you have it set to medium settings? On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 12:24:13 -, Wayne Putterill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unfortunately I have to restrain myself from playing for a few days as I really need to get on with a job :( Pity I wasted so much time yesterday - my fault for not paying

RE: Got my Half-Life 2 Package!

2004-11-23 Thread Wayne Putterill
I'm running at the suggested defaults it picked up from my system - 1024 x 768 High Model detail, texture, shader, shadow No antialias Trilinear filtering This is the card http://www.sapphiretech.com/vga/9800atl.asp I am using the latest drivers which are supposed to help performance on this

RE: ATI 850 picture

2004-11-23 Thread Angel Stewart
It's the new architecture replacing PCI...called PCI Express. Has much more bandwidth, and most games won't see a vast increase in performance because most are still written to conform to the AGP architecture. In fact, games showed no increase in performance on an AGP 8X as opposed to a AGB4X.

Ron Artest

2004-11-23 Thread Tangorre, Michael
So I am standing in the living room this morning, drinking my breakfast and Ron Artest is on the Today's Show being interviewed by Matt Lauer. I can now understand why he did what he did; he a is total moron. He was all smiles, laughing, holding his new CD, saying he was a peaceful man and he has

Re: Ron Artest

2004-11-23 Thread Bill Wheatley
I don't need to see that to understand why he did what he did. You throw shit at me when i'm playing a game and i'm going to come up there and knock your ass out too. Being a moron doesn't make someone more or less prone to defend themselves. On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 08:19:07 -0500, Tangorre,

RE: Ron Artest

2004-11-23 Thread Tangorre, Michael
From: Bill Wheatley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Being a moron doesn't make someone more or less prone to defend themselves. Defend themselves from a plastic cup?! Oh come on, if you are going to go into a violent rage over a plastic cup you have issues. It is just like the typical American to

RE: Ron Artest

2004-11-23 Thread Kazmierczak, Kevin
Plastic cups are dangerous. Especially the clear ones. Give me a break. -Original Message- From: Tangorre, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 8:35 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Ron Artest From: Bill Wheatley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Being a

RE: Ron Artest

2004-11-23 Thread Tangorre, Michael
-Original Message- From: Kazmierczak, Kevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Plastic cups are dangerous. Especially the clear ones. Give me a break. Once you factor in beer and ice, the average plastic cup becomes quite the deadly weapon Just like a nerf gun!

Re: Ron Artest

2004-11-23 Thread G
Had the cup been holding a fresh Budweiserperhaps retaliation would of been in order. but reports are it was a glass of water$5 million dollars over a glass of water. Also, reports today are that charges probably would not be filed against any of the fans, minus a few possible

NBA CBA

2004-11-23 Thread G
For anyone who's interested, the NBA's collective bargaining agreement is online: http://www.nbpa.com/cba/cba.html It's not very specific on the issue of suspensions or banishments, other than to say the NBA can do it, if it's reasonable. *shrug*

Taking a break

2004-11-23 Thread Candace Cottrell
Hey all, I am unsubscribing from the list for a while. I got a new job in West Virginia (my home state) and have a ba-jillion things to do. I'll re-sub under my new address once I'm settled in West (by God) Virginia. Go Mountaineers! ;) Candace K. Cottrell, Web Developer The Children's

RE: ATI 850 picture

2004-11-23 Thread Jim Davis
This is the new world: PCIe (PCI Express). There's a gret write up of how it works at arstechnica.com if you're interested. Jim Davis -Original Message- From: James Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 5:02 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: ATI 850 picture I

RE: Taking a break

2004-11-23 Thread John Stanley
Near Weston? -Original Message- From: Candace Cottrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 9:09 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Taking a break Hey all, I am unsubscribing from the list for a while. I got a new job in West Virginia (my home state) and have a

RE: JFK Reloaded - sick

2004-11-23 Thread Jim Davis
I've seen this all over, but aside from the questionable aspect of rewarding players it doesn't seem any sicker to me that any of the dozens of upon dozens of professional recreations done by the news media. Jim Davis -Original Message- From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent:

RE: Taking a break

2004-11-23 Thread Harkins, Patrick
Congrats on the new job! Y'all come back now y'hear? :) Patrick -Original Message- From: Candace Cottrell Hey all, I am unsubscribing from the list for a while. I got a new job in West Virginia (my home state) and have a ba-jillion things to do. I'll re-sub under my new address once I'm

WTF?

2004-11-23 Thread Ray Champagne
http://tinyurl.com/3ln4j Ray = Ray Champagne - Senior Application Developer CrystalVision Web Site Design and Internet Services 603.433.9559 www.crystalvision.org = The information contained in this

Re: Spam gets religion

2004-11-23 Thread Michael Dinowitz
I quite happily add such spam to my list of offenders to be blocked. I hate missionaries of any sort. I don't know how I got on the list, but at the office I get five or six spams a day offer discounted mortgages to good Christians from the Christian lending network. It truly offends me

RE: Taking a break

2004-11-23 Thread Candace Cottrell
About 20 minutes away ;) Candace K. Cottrell, Web Developer The Children's Medical Center One Children's Plaza Dayton, OH 45404 937-641-4293 http://www.childrensdayton.org There is no right price for the wrong product, even if it is inexpensive and delivered on time. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Taking a break

2004-11-23 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Congrats Candice. larry On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 09:09:20 -0500, Candace Cottrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey all, I am unsubscribing from the list for a while. I got a new job in West Virginia (my home state) and have a ba-jillion things to do. I'll re-sub under my new address once I'm settled

Re: Ron Artest

2004-11-23 Thread Phill B
Just keep in mind that until you are in a situation like that, you have no idea how you would react. If he would have reacted any differently, people would have said that they would have kicked the guys ass that tossed the bottle of water. Phillip B. On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 08:34:57 -0500, Tangorre,

Re: JFK Reloaded - sick

2004-11-23 Thread Jeffry Houser
Although I didn't download and play it, it appears they are trying to be historically accurate based on what we know. I don't find this any more sick than any FPS. I seem to remember a game called Rise of the Triad. Right before an enemy died, he would drop to his knees, then you could

Are my posts making it?

2004-11-23 Thread Matthew Small
Test. I sent two posts yesterday and they did not make the list. ~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Gold Sponsor - CFHosting.net http://www.cfhosting.net Message:

Re: JFK Reloaded - sick

2004-11-23 Thread G
Perhaps what makes this more sick is the fact that the person depicted in the game is based on a real life character. Imagine if the person getting destroyed on the screen was a digital recreation of your father, or brother, or grandfather, or son.. Although I didn't download and play

RE: Are my posts making it?

2004-11-23 Thread Sandy Clark
I see this one. Sandy -Original Message- From: Matthew Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 9:46 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Are my posts making it? Test. I sent two posts yesterday and they did not make the list.

Re: Any Ulcers yet?

2004-11-23 Thread Won Lee
Sam Morris wrote: I've been filling in for you. It's an easy crowd to get worked up. Maybe I'll buy stock in Rolaids :) Then you would have to buy stock in Pfizer the makers of Rolaids. -- 2004 - The year $184M couldn't buy a pennant. Ron Artest: Extremely flawed, very accidental,

RE: Ron Artest

2004-11-23 Thread Tangorre, Michael
From: Phill B [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Just keep in mind that until you are in a situation like that, you have no idea how you would react. If he would have reacted any differently, people would have said that they would have kicked the guys ass that tossed the bottle of water. I do

RE: Any Ulcers yet?

2004-11-23 Thread Tangorre, Michael
Sam Morris wrote: I've been filling in for you. It's an easy crowd to get worked up. Maybe I'll buy stock in Rolaids :) Ass. ~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Gold Sponsor - CFHosting.net http://www.cfhosting.net

RE: Spam gets religion

2004-11-23 Thread Jerry Johnson
Why does this offend you so? It seems like a pretty good marketing trick to me. Although it didn't click with you, I'd bet there are a bunch of people that voted red that would be pleased as punch by this offer. For you it maybe should read discounted water cooled computers to good Coders from

Re: Spam gets religion

2004-11-23 Thread Todd Ashworth
I quite happily add such spam to my list of offenders to be blocked. I hate missionaries of any sort. Eliminate debt, the Christian way! I get these all of the time. I don't know what the heck the Christian way is to eliminate debt, as I have never cared enough to even look at the messages,

RE: Ron Artest

2004-11-23 Thread Nick McClure
Well, he wasn't really playing; he was laying face down on the scorer's table. And it was just a plastic cup, I'm pretty sure I would have been upset, but I wouldn't have gone off like that. I have been in similar situations before and I know the difference between self-defense and revenge.

Re: Are my posts making it?

2004-11-23 Thread Critter
i thought it was a permanent ban on his posts? it was only for a day? that's not what we discussed in the super secret meeting of the m1nds On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 09:48:07 -0500, Sandy Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I see this one. Sandy -Original Message- From: Matthew Small

Re: Taking a break

2004-11-23 Thread Kevin Graeme
Woohoo! Good luck. I'm interested to hear what all you're doing. -Kevin On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 09:09:20 -0500, Candace Cottrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey all, I am unsubscribing from the list for a while. I got a new job in West Virginia (my home state) and have a ba-jillion things to do.

RE: Are my posts making it?

2004-11-23 Thread Tangorre, Michael
-Original Message- From: Critter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] i thought it was a permanent ban on his posts? it was only for a day? that's not what we discussed in the super secret meeting of the m1nds That's because Sandy called a meeting for the Super Super Uber people, and of course

RE: Spam gets religion

2004-11-23 Thread Harkins, Patrick
how about just Eliminate, the Christian way! :) -Original Message- From: Todd Ashworth Eliminate debt, the Christian way! I get these all of the time. I don't know what the heck the Christian way is to eliminate debt, as I have never cared enough to even look at the messages, but

Re: Ron Artest

2004-11-23 Thread Gruss Gott
Nick wrote: Well, he wasn't really playing; he was laying face down on the scorer's table. Controlling your emotions and using the law to defend yourself should be the lesson here. The cup dude should've been singled out, kicked out, possibly suspended for life from buying tickets or

RE: Are my posts making it?

2004-11-23 Thread Matthew Small
A-ha! I am going to report you all to my George W. Bush fan club! Prepare to suffer the consequences... And the subject of my posts yesterday that did not make the list was that I have accepted a new position as a ColdFusion/Fusebox developer. My MS contract is ending soon, and I needed a new

Re: Ron Artest

2004-11-23 Thread Jerry Johnson
I don't see anyone pointing out that the guy Artest attacked STILL HAD A CUP IN HIS HAND. He was not the guy that threw the cup. (The guy that threw the cup was wearing a white shirt) That alone is enough for Artest to get thrown out on his keister, in my mind. Jerry Jerry Johnson Web

Re: Spam gets religion

2004-11-23 Thread G
Several ways to elminate debt the Christian way: - Turn all your water into wine. - Tell your creditors: Let he among you who is without debt, cast the first lawsuit. - Sell Image of Mary grilled cheese on EBay for thousands of dollars. - Only purchase swaddling clothes for your baby, place in

Re: Ron Artest

2004-11-23 Thread G
I think it's hilarious that the guy who DID throw the cupused to live next door to the DA who would be prosecuting any criminal cases. The prosecutor was able to identify the guy personally after watching the tape. Classic. Oh, and the guy does have a fairly lengthy record, including

Re: Are my posts making it?

2004-11-23 Thread Won Lee
Matthew Small wrote: A-ha! I am going to report you all to my George W. Bush fan club! Prepare to suffer the consequences... And the subject of my posts yesterday that did not make the list was that I have accepted a new position as a ColdFusion/Fusebox developer. My MS contract is

Re: Ron Artest

2004-11-23 Thread Bill Wheatley
Just saying i understand why he did what he did. To begin with he was the guy who got pushed and then all that the fucking detriot fans who i would consider dogs more then fans started harressing them. No player should have to put up with that shit. The sad thing is those fans are going to get

Re: Ron Artest

2004-11-23 Thread Charlie Griefer
http://armchairgm.com/index.php?p=36 On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 09:22:28 -0600, G [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think it's hilarious that the guy who DID throw the cupused to live next door to the DA who would be prosecuting any criminal cases. The prosecutor was able to identify the guy personally

U2 at the Brooklyn Bridge

2004-11-23 Thread Jim Campbell
Here you go Michael - the explanation for the band-toting flatbed truck yesterday: http://www.antiwrap.com/?22 - Jim ~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Gold Sponsor - CFHosting.net http://www.cfhosting.net Message:

Re: Any Ulcers yet?

2004-11-23 Thread Larry C. Lyons
You mean you finally noticed? He's made it painfully obvious. larry On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 09:52:04 -0500, Tangorre, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sam Morris wrote: I've been filling in for you. It's an easy crowd to get worked up. Maybe I'll buy stock in Rolaids :) Ass.

Re: Ron Artest

2004-11-23 Thread Bill Wheatley
Being a professional doesn't mean you are any more able to stand upto having shit thrown at you then a regular person. Professional = He's a good basketball player and that is it. Past that he's a regular guy and yes i can see myself or anyone going off on someone who does that crap. We all have

RE: Are my posts making it?

2004-11-23 Thread Matthew Small
Still here in Charlotte. The job is with American Cities Business Journals in CF Web dev. We'll be working in Fusebox and moving to Mach II. It's also cool that I will be working with somebody whose name I recognize from CF-TALK. I haven't been a member of CF-TALK for a while but I certainly

Re: WTF?

2004-11-23 Thread Bill Wheatley
wow. Hopefully i never have to experience something that would drive me to kill my child. Has to suck. Poor kid. On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 09:21:47 -0500, Ray Champagne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://tinyurl.com/3ln4j Ray = Ray Champagne - Senior

RE: Spam gets religion

2004-11-23 Thread Harkins, Patrick
good ones dude! :) -Original Message- From: G Several ways to elminate debt the Christian way: - Turn all your water into wine. - Tell your creditors: Let he among you who is without debt, cast the first lawsuit. - Sell Image of Mary grilled cheese on EBay for thousands of dollars. -

RE: Are my posts making it?

2004-11-23 Thread Harkins, Patrick
Cool! Where's your new gig? -Original Message- From: Matthew Small A-ha! I am going to report you all to my George W. Bush fan club! Prepare to suffer the consequences... And the subject of my posts yesterday that did not make the list was that I have accepted a new position as a

RE: Ron Artest

2004-11-23 Thread Nick McClure
But what was he defending himself against is my question. There was no continuing threat, the security guard got there at the same time. -Original Message- From: Bill Wheatley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 10:24 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Ron Artest

Re: Ron Artest

2004-11-23 Thread Bill Wheatley
Well i'm sure there was a reason for him going after the other guy then as well. People don't just flip out on fans for no reason. And i'm of the mind that perhaps the fans deserved it for their behaviour. You haven't ever seen this but for years you've got a history of rowdy fans and its time

RE: Ron Artest

2004-11-23 Thread Nick McClure
Based on the video I saw Artest got the guy that threw the cup at him. I could be wrong, I'm downloading it again to see -Original Message- From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 10:14 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Ron Artest I don't see anyone

Re: Spam gets religion

2004-11-23 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Well to start, I'm not a Christian. Second I dislike scams of all sorts. Moreover according to classic Christian theology, usury is not allowed. Therefore this is not christian. larry On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 09:51:49 -0500, Jerry Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why does this offend you so? It

Re: ATI 850 picture

2004-11-23 Thread Bill Wheatley
Is PCIe just going to be for video cards or is it synonymous with PCIX (64bit pci slots) On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 09:11:30 -0500, Jim Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is the new world: PCIe (PCI Express). There's a gret write up of how it works at arstechnica.com if you're interested. Jim

Re: Ron Artest

2004-11-23 Thread G
Being a professional doesn't mean you are any more able to stand upto having shit thrown at you then a regular person. Professional = He's a good basketball player and that is it. Past that he's a regular guy and yes i can see myself or anyone going off on someone who does that crap. That's

Re: Are my posts making it?

2004-11-23 Thread Won Lee
Matthew Small wrote: Still here in Charlotte. The job is with American Cities Business Journals in CF Web dev. We'll be working in Fusebox and moving to Mach II. It's also cool that I will be working with somebody whose name I recognize from CF-TALK. I haven't been a member of CF-TALK for

RE: Ron Artest

2004-11-23 Thread Jerry Johnson
Nope. He went right by the guy in the white shirt (who threw the cup), and got the guy behind him. (They had really good closeups with enhanced video on the news this morning.) Jerry Jerry Johnson Web Developer Dolan Media Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/23/04 10:33AM Based on the video I saw

Grilled Cheese Virgin Mary.... again

2004-11-23 Thread Jim Davis
The real title of the thread should be Holy Shit! It looks like that $28,000 bid was actually real. According to buyer (and online casino... which proves that they've got WAY too much money) it's a piece of Pop culture and they had to have it no matter what it took. Now how something that

Re: Ron Artest

2004-11-23 Thread Bill Wheatley
Well i think any of us could have done the very same thing after the way all those fans acted. Who know's maybe he thought it was that guy who did it but nobody knows. I just know that anyone could have done the same thing. I mean i go from minding my own business laying on the table to having

Re: Ron Artest

2004-11-23 Thread Bill Wheatley
Yea i thought so too but i wasn't going to argue the point. If he got the right guy good more power to him. Hopefully the fan loses his lawsuit against the nba as well. I would be totally disappointed in the jury if they award that guy a penny. On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 10:39:47 -0500, Bill Wheatley

Re: Grilled Cheese Virgin Mary.... again

2004-11-23 Thread Bill Wheatley
Dude we gotta think of something like this : We could be internet famous and ebay rich! On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 10:39:18 -0400, Jim Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The real title of the thread should be Holy Shit! It looks like that $28,000 bid was actually real. According to buyer (and

Re: Taking a break

2004-11-23 Thread Bill Wheatley
No more hospital for you ? On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 09:02:26 -0600, Kevin Graeme [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Woohoo! Good luck. I'm interested to hear what all you're doing. -Kevin On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 09:09:20 -0500, Candace Cottrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey all, I am unsubscribing

Re: Spam gets religion

2004-11-23 Thread Jim Davis
Why does this offend you so? It seems like a pretty good marketing trick to me. Although it didn't click with you, I'd bet there are a bunch of people that voted red that would be pleased as punch by this offer. It offends me for several reasons: 1) I'm not Christian, I'm an atheist. 2)

Re: Spam gets religion

2004-11-23 Thread Jerry Johnson
I don't think the ad was targeted to you demographically. Of course it is not Christian. It is marketing. It hits all of the high points. 1. Flattery. you are a good Christian. So good that we here at the Christian lending network KNOW you are a good Christian. 2. Inflated claims. Discounted

Re: Ron Artest

2004-11-23 Thread Bill Wheatley
Being a professional means you are able to stand upto what the job entails. And when things out of the norm happen you can throw professionalism out the window. CFSTARTDEF pro·fes·sion·al·ism P Pronunciation Key (pr-fsh-n-lzm) n. Professional status, methods, character, or standards. The

Re: Ron Artest

2004-11-23 Thread Bill Wheatley
Well maybe he thought it was the other guy. Maybe the other guy did something else. It's sad everyones going to lambaste the players. OH they are so much bigger. That is BS on the street if a big guy gets attacked and hits back the news won't say he shouldn't have defended himself because he was

Atheism (was: Re: Spam gets religion)

2004-11-23 Thread G
Hey Jim, you mind me asking a question? Atheism was always interesting to me. I'm not a very religious person, and generally don't pay much attention to preachy religious jargon about God and such. But the one thing that's always kept me in the believer's camp is the idea of the First Mover. My

Re: Are my posts making it?

2004-11-23 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Great news. With you and Candice getting new jobs, hmm perhaps we should all jump ship. Give the economy a big boost. alrry On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 10:16:42 -0500, Matthew Small [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A-ha! I am going to report you all to my George W. Bush fan club! Prepare to suffer the

Re: JFK Reloaded - sick

2004-11-23 Thread Jim Davis
Perhaps what makes this more sick is the fact that the person depicted in the game is based on a real life character. Imagine if the person getting destroyed on the screen was a digital recreation of your father, or brother, or grandfather, or son.. But again - accepting the outrage

Re: Any Ulcers yet?

2004-11-23 Thread Kevin Graeme
I've been filling in for you. It's an easy crowd to get worked up. Maybe I'll buy stock in Rolaids :) Ass. That would need Preparation-H, not Rolaids. -Kevin ~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Gold Sponsor -

Re: Ron Artest

2004-11-23 Thread Jerry Johnson
We will visit you in jail then, Bill. This wasn't on the street. This was on a job site. If you were working at a trade show for your company, and a user outside the booth threw water on you, and you waded through the crowd and attacked the wrong person, punching them repeatedly, how long do

RE: Ron Artest

2004-11-23 Thread Nick McClure
I just looked at the video again, and it looks like the Artest went after did throw something, it also looks like the guy in the white shirt also threw something. But the thing that hit Artest while he was laying down didn't look to come from the guy in the white shirt, but it was very hard to

Re: JFK Reloaded - sick

2004-11-23 Thread G
Well, I guess i'll point out the obvious and say the primary difference involves passively watching a factual account of an occurrence, versus taking an active part in the recreation of the occurrence, ultimately affecting its outcome for entertainment. Ray posted the news item about the mom who

Re: Atheism

2004-11-23 Thread Jim Campbell
I can answer this from my perspective (and as another Jim, I guess). Anyway, the idea, as you put it, of a First Mover just doesn't bother me. Not knowing the answer to something doesn't make me want to jump to a conclusion. The something came from nothing argument makes things too

RE: Ron Artest

2004-11-23 Thread Kazmierczak, Kevin
Well put Jerry. Even if you did punch the right guy, you would probably suffer similar consequences. Kevin. -Original Message- From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 10:55 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Ron Artest We will visit you in jail

RE: Atheism (was: Re: Spam gets religion)

2004-11-23 Thread Wayne Putterill
That sounds like the universe is so complex it must have been designed argument, there is something on it here: http://www.infidels.org/news/atheism/arguments.html#design -Original Message- From: G [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 23 November 2004 15:52 To: CF-Community Subject: Atheism

Re: Ron Artest

2004-11-23 Thread Won Lee
Kazmierczak, Kevin wrote: Well put Jerry. Even if you did punch the right guy, you would probably suffer similar consequences. Kevin. What a corporation might or might not do is, and should be, out side the scope of when evaluating Artest's actions. What a court may or may not find is

Re: Atheism (was: Re: Spam gets religion)

2004-11-23 Thread G
No, it's not that argument at all. Complexity isn't a sign of God. My mortgage process was complex, and I can say with complete certainty that God had nothing to do with my re-fi. Jim Campbell's response was very interesting. I think his implication that maybe the idea of creation can't be known

RE: Grilled Cheese Virgin Mary.... again

2004-11-23 Thread Wayne Putterill
28k for the amount of free advertising the casino got sounds quite cheap! -Original Message- From: Bill Wheatley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 23 November 2004 15:41 To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Grilled Cheese Virgin Mary again Dude we gotta think of something like this : We

Re: Ron Artest

2004-11-23 Thread Jerry Johnson
So Won, Do you think it is morally right for a man to repeatedly punch and try to kick another man because the first man threw water on him? I don't. If he had thrown water back at him, fine. Maybe a push in the chest. Beating the crap out of a guy for a little water? I don't see that as

RE: Atheism (was: Re: Spam gets religion)

2004-11-23 Thread Marlon Moyer
Obviously you didn't get your mortgage from a fine Christian Lender then. :) -Original Message- From: G [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 10:29 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Atheism (was: Re: Spam gets religion) No, it's not that argument at all.

Desktop Stress Relief

2004-11-23 Thread James Smith
Does any one out there have any small programs (like sheep.exe) that I can beat the crap out of? The sheep is fun but if you throw it it just drops gently to the bottom of the screen and bounces, I need something I can do damage to! -- James Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Ron Artest

2004-11-23 Thread Won Lee
Jerry Johnson wrote: So Won, Do you think it is morally right for a man to repeatedly punch and try to kick another man because the first man threw water on him? I don't. If he had thrown water back at him, fine. Maybe a push in the chest. Beating the crap out of a guy for a little

RE: Advice Needed

2004-11-23 Thread Dharmesh Goel
Marlon, How about blackstone? You could use the new reports feature in blackstone. These reports can be run off of your cfcs'. DG -Original Message- From: Marlon Moyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 5:42 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Advice Needed I've just

Re: Desktop Stress Relief

2004-11-23 Thread Jerry Johnson
Elf bowling and the penguin toss have always been popular. http://www.bowlersparadise.com/elfbowling/ http://www.killsometime.com/games/game.asp?Game=Penguin-Throw http://www.insane-games.com/pingu_throw.shtml Jerry Jerry Johnson Web Developer Dolan Media Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/23/04

Re: Ron Artest

2004-11-23 Thread Jerry Johnson
Well, apparently most of us feel that one punch was too many. And Commissioner Stern agrees. So, one punch was too many. Jerry Jerry Johnson Web Developer Dolan Media Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/23/04 11:48AM When dealing with such issues degrees have less weight then you are putting on

Re: Ron Artest

2004-11-23 Thread Won Lee
Won Lee wrote: When dealing with such issues degrees have less weight then you are putting on them. Why? Because once person might think 1 punch is ok, but 2 punches is too much. Another person might think 2 punches are ok, but 3 is too much. Another might think 2 punches is OK under

Re: Taking a break

2004-11-23 Thread Deanna Schneider
Congrats on the new job! I figured you were looking when you posted your hypothetical question. Good luck on the move and what not. On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 09:09:20 -0500, Candace Cottrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey all, I am unsubscribing from the list for a while. I got a new job in West

Re: Atheism (was: Re: Spam gets religion)

2004-11-23 Thread Gruss Gott
Wayne wrote: That sounds like the universe is so complex it must have been designed argument, there is something on it here: http://www.infidels.org/news/atheism/arguments.html#design I think you can believe in God, but not believe he created the universe; he may *be* the universe. This

Re: Ron Artest

2004-11-23 Thread Won Lee
Jerry Johnson wrote: Well, apparently most of us feel that one punch was too many. And Commissioner Stern agrees. So, one punch was too many. Jerry Jerry Johnson Web Developer Dolan Media Company Did Stern punish Ronnie for hitting someone? Or did he punish him for going into

RE: Advice Needed

2004-11-23 Thread Marlon Moyer
Yeah, I'm really looking forward to that, but my manager wants something right now. I've been working with SQL guy trying to port this over to a stored proc. Geez, if only you could work with structures in sql. The other problem is that I've been working this project for 6 months now and see it

Re: Ron Artest

2004-11-23 Thread Jerry Johnson
Of course it was a heinous act. Beating a guy is not normal behavior. It is a crime. It is mean. It is not good. It is one step from that to the Vibe awards punching, stabbing and assault with chairs. It is thuggery. Pure and simple. It should not be tolerated in bars, in crowds on New Years,

Re: Desktop Stress Relief

2004-11-23 Thread Paul Ihrig
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Re: Ron Artest

2004-11-23 Thread Jerry Johnson
He was punished for hitting someone. He was punished more for hitting a fan. He was punished even more for going into the stands to reach that fan. He was punished even more for doing so in the presence of a camera and a large public audience. And he was punished even more to try to stem the

RE: Atheism (was: Re: Spam gets religion)

2004-11-23 Thread Harkins, Patrick
interesting typo... I think we know what someone wants for Christmas! -Original Message- From: Gruss Gott This gets into the question of what iGod is and we may be anthropomorphizing he/she/it. Outbound email scanned for viruses. (e230)

RE: Ron Artest

2004-11-23 Thread Nick McClure
Well, in the case of how many punches and all that is pretty simple in the eyes of the law. Our laws usually state that the act of striking somebody is assault and/or battery. There is typically an out for self-defense, however to qualify as self-defense there usually must be a continuing threat.

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